Perry sending National Guard troops to border

Deployment will cost Texas an estimated $12M a month to combat criminals that some say are exploiting a surge of children and families entering the U.S. illegally
Associated Press
Jul 22, 2014

 

Gov. Rick Perry said Monday he is deploying up to 1,000 National Guard troops over the next month to the Texas-Mexico border to combat criminals that Republican state leaders say are exploiting a surge of children and families entering the U.S. illegally.

Perry, a vocal critic of the White House's response to the border crisis — and who is mulling a second presidential run in 2016 — said the state has a responsibility to act after "lip service" from the federal government.

He rejected suggestions that Texas was militarizing local communities by putting National Guard troops on the ground or that crime data along the border doesn't justify additional resources.

The deployment will cost Texas an estimated $12 million a month. Texas Adjutant General John Nichols said his troops would simply be "referring and deterring" immigrants and not detaining people — though Nichols said the National Guard could if asked.

"We think they'll come to us and say, 'Please take us to a Border Patrol station," Nichols said.

More than 3,000 Border Patrol agents currently work in the region, and Perry has repeatedly asked Obama to send the National Guard to the border. Much of the area has been overwhelmed in recent months by tens of thousands of unaccompanied children illegally entering the U.S.

U.S. Customs and Border Protection didn't respond to a request for comment Monday.

As governor, Perry is commander in chief of Texas military forces unless those forces have already been mobilized by the White House. But if Perry deploys National Guard troops it is up to Texas to pay for them, while an order from Obama would mean Washington picks up the tab.

"Gov. Perry has referred repeatedly to his desire to make a symbolic statement to the people of Central America that the border is closed," said White House spokesman Josh Earnest. "And he thinks that the best way to do that is to send 1,000 National Guard troops to the border. It seems to me that a much more powerful symbol would be the bipartisan passage of legislation that would actually make a historic investment in border security and send an additional 20,000 personnel to the border."

Earnest also said the White House hasn't received the kind of "formal communication" with Perry's office that usually accompanies such deployments.

President George W. Bush sent 6,000 National Guard troops to the border in 2006, and Obama eventually extended that deployment while ordering a second wave of National Guard forces to Texas, California, Arizona and New Mexico in 2010. But the second round saw reduced numbers of troops, and most of their work was limited to air patrols in counterdrug operations.

Perry announced last month that Texas would steer another $1.3 million each week to the Department of Public Safety to assist in border security through at least the end of the year. In a letter to Obama on June 20, Perry made several requests for help along the border, including 1,000 National Guard troops, additional helicopters and giving troops "arrest powers to support Border Patrol operations until sufficient Border Patrol resources can be hired, trained and deployed to the border."

It's not clear why Perry would need the Obama administration to authorize arrest powers and the governor's office has not offered details ahead of the announcement. Texas law simply states that the governor can "adopt rules and regulations governing enlistment, organization, administration" of the Texas State Guard.

In a White House letter to Perry on July 7, Obama adviser Valerie Jarrett laid out steps the administration was taking to deal with what the president had called an "urgent humanitarian situation," but did not mention the National Guard. Obama met with Perry two days later in Dallas, and the administration has worked with Mexico and other countries the immigrants are leaving to make it clear they will not be allowed to stay in the U.S.

On previous border deployments, National Guard soldiers have served in support roles — administrative, intelligence gathering — while the Border Patrol expanded its ranks. Some National Guard troops already participate in counter-drug operations on the border, though they don't have arrest powers.

Since October, more than 57,000 unaccompanied children and teenagers have entered the U.S. illegally — more than double compared to the same period a year earlier. Most have been from Honduras, Guatemala and El Salvador, where rampant gang violence and intense poverty have driven tens of thousands of people outside their borders.

Their numbers overwhelmed Border Patrol facilities in the Rio Grande Valley, leading Perry and the Texas Department of Public Safety to argue that Border Patrol agents distracted by groups of children and families were leaving gaps.

Most of those children have been turning themselves in to the first person in a uniform they see.

 

Comments

Contango

Re: "Your wall,"????

You're hallucinating. Better seek immediate medical assistance.

jazzbo

What's the name of your psychiatrist ?

deertracker

Dr. Kessler's!

jazzbo

Dr. Kessler's works for cheap.

The Big Dog's back

LMAO! Dr. Kesslers. Ahahahahahahaha.

The New World Czar

Governor Perry is doing what the feds won't do. More power to him and the Republic of Texas.

The Big Dog's back

Like I said , it's about time Texas spends some of that extra money they get back from the Fed.

Contango

Re: "extra money they get back from the Fed."

With all the thousands of illegal detainees, TX will need more. Pay up!

The Big Dog's back

We are a border state. Can't perry handle it?

Contango

Re: "We are a border state."

You don't live in OH. Where do you live?

Lots of illegals coming across Lake Erie?

SummerhomenSomrnot

f.y.i...reddog & motormouth = 44824

Contango

Re: "Can't perry handle it?"

Why does U.S. Customs and Border Protection exist?

Can't Pres. Obama "handle it"?

Dr. Information

Things Obama can handle:
1. selfies
2. Hitting on women
3. Fundraisers
4. Lying

mikeylikesit

hitting on women? is that what he does at the chicago bath house?

The Big Dog's back

So your a woman mikey? Who knew.

Dr. Information

thats you're, not your.....back to school little kid LOL.

jazzbo

Miss Info is just a troll with no substance.

Dr. Information

Just like your mom, a hole, no substance.

jazzbo

Your mother has a substance in her hole.

The Big Dog's back

Maybe perry should go down to HIS state's border and lead the charge. Put a gun in his hand. Teddy Roosevelt would. C'mon gutless perry, get on down there.

freespeech1

Hes been down there quite a bit, has done many ride alongs on the river and air surveying the situation. I lived down there by the border in Texas, you have no idea what your talking about.

The Big Dog's back

Yes I do you right wingnut know it all.

Gottathink

I'm with you freespeech ...you have to "see" it to believe it.
These are teens and young adults crossing, uneducated and disease ridden.
We don't need them here. I say give them lunch and a plane ride or bus ride back home

The Big Dog's back

They need to take you along with them.

8ballinthesidepocket

They have announced that all state welfare programs will either be eliminated or cut in half until this deployment is paid for.

meowmix

Hey! Numbnuts is free on Aug. 4th! He's good pals with Texas...Why not set his scummy arse on the border???

A Native American tribe has canceled an Aug. 4 concert by Ted Nugent at its casino.

The Coeur d'Alene Tribe on Monday said that the cancellation of the concert at the casino in the northwest Idaho city of Worley was because of what it called the rocker's "racist and hate-filled remarks."

The tribe says it booked Nugent without realizing he espoused "racist attitudes and views." The tribe did not detail which of Nugent's specific views it opposes.

jazzbo

Nugent is a creep and a coward.

meowmix

Totally agree. Also, Big Dog--you will appreciate this one...

The best thing about texas is that it is the only state which can legally
secede from the union.

The worst thing about texas is that it hasn't.

Dr. Information

Good God. That was funny? Comedy isn't your thing. Matter of fact what is besides lunatic banter on here, lol.

Contango

Re: "only state which can legally secede from the union."

Nonsense.

There was a war in the 1860s over this issue. Maybe you've heard or read about it?

FYI:

"As a sovereign country (in 2012), Texas would be the 14th largest economy in the world by GDP (ahead of South Korea and the Netherlands)."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eco...

meowmix

C'mon Connie---it WAS A JOKE!!!! (Unfortunately, because I'd love nothing more than to see Texas go bye-bye. We'll just let Washington DC become the state of New Columbia like they want so that way we won't have to change the flag. :}

Donegan

Why would you want to see Texas secede? Is it because you hate your fellow citizens and wish everyone in the country to have the same view point? That's not exactly what the country was made for. If you wish everyone to be forced to hold your view point N Korea might be your cup of tea. That country is full of like minded drones who let others think for them.

jazzbo

moron

Donegan

Man that's original, Kindergarten let out early?

jazzbo

Why ? Do you want to pick up some chicks ?

Donegan

Typical Democrat, Always thinking of ways to screw the children over.

jazzbo

Isnt it guys like you doing it to the Central American children ?

Say....yes.

Donegan

Pretty sure Guys like me want them to stay at home and not add to the crises, That's your thing.

jazzbo

Yeah , you would make things worse.

Donegan

How would telling them to stay where they are and staying safe be any worse than your god making promises of a open border if the risk their lives traveling across thousands of miles of drug cartels and human smugglers? It is amazing the depths you people will go through to protect your god. People are getting hurt and it is about time someone stopped this nonsense. Your and your gods stupidity is causing the crises.

jazzbo

Why are you NOW exhibiting compassion for those people ?

Hypocrite.

Donegan

Fences make better neighbors. You and your god create crises to hurt children to further a agenda,Those are the facts. That is despicable. So please do not even think of acting like you have any compassion for those kids, You would love to find thousands of them dead in the desert to be able to point your finger at someone to further your agenda.
Look in the mirror before calling anyone else a hypocrite.

jazzbo

Hi hypocrite !

Read up about the story of the "fence" - then shut up.

Donegan

You wish others would shut up so you could hurt more children without being called on it.
Face it everyone is seeing how you people use children to further a agenda. You do not care how many get hurt as long as it goes through. Truly despicable.

The Big Dog's back

I don't hate my fellow citizens, just right wingnuts.

freespeech1

From the party of tolerance, LMAO

jazzbo

...and you are the party of intolerance.

Gottathink

Plus
Like you more and more Donegan

The Big Dog's back

I don't think anyone cares what you like.

jazzbo

If you admire Donegan , you must be of the same mind - and that's NOT good.

Contango

Re: "it WAS A JOKE!!!!"

Read more like just plain ignorance.

DC is constitutionally prohibited from becoming a state. (More ignorance?)

H*ll, what about financially bankrupt Puerto Rico? Lot's more new welfare voters for the Dems!

http://www.washingtonpost.com/bl...

Dr. Information

Liberals, would want a booming state like Texas to break away , yet want to keep broke states like CA.

Intolerant left at it again.

The Big Dog's back

Correct meowmix. Wait until deuce pooh moves there before they secede.

Contango

Re: "Wait,"

Blo-dog: Deflect, blather and repeat the insanity as often as possible.

Donegan

When border patrol sues the government for not upholding the laws passed by congress you know the libtards have taken over. https://www.numbersusa.com/conte...
As head of the military it is one of the presidents jobs to protect our border, Obama has failed miserably at his job. So bad in fact that he has CAUSED the crises.
But oh well his useful idiots will defend him regardless, I am sure Nero had his protectors too.

Gottathink

He's known about this crisis since 2012 and did nothing to prevent it.

I hope that the 1000 guardsmen will be putting up a fence.

Contango

“'Do not send your children to the borders,' President Obama said in a television interview the other Sunday. 'If they do make it, they’ll get sent back. More important, they may not make it.'

I find this remark not short of disgusting for its several subtexts. Central American parents are so stupid and loveless that they must be instructed to care for their offspring."

Typical of the sophistic nonsense spewing from the Incompetent-in-Chief.

http://www.salon.com/2014/07/15/...

Gottathink

Ha! I've only seen one report of about 40 of them being sent back. The rest are here ...and coming to ALL cities ...hopefully one near you.
From reading the Register and Reflector online ...you think drug problems are bad now (heroin) just wait until about 100 are flown into your region.

Dr. Information

No worries about our security. The DHS is boarding illegals on commercial planes with only a "notice to appear" document.

This administration is out of control.

Donegan

They are not citizens so they are not enemies of the state. If you are a citizen you are under suspicion automatically.

The Big Dog's back

Especially you done again.

Donegan

How Nazi of you. Face it you hate because that is all you have, Typical Democrat.
Democrat=the oldest terrorist organization in America.

jazzbo

Paranoid much , Dumbagain ?

Donegan

Just truthful. Not that you would not know much about that.

jazzbo

You wouldn't know truth if it hit you in the face.

Dr. Information

all you know is when jiz hits your face. lol.

jazzbo

You mother swallows it. LOL !

Contango

Off-topic:

Speaking of the Incompetent-in-Chief -

"Fed appeals court panel says most Obamacare subsidies illegal":

http://www.cnbc.com/id/101819065

Also:

"The administration just took Obamacare away from the territories"

http://www.washingtonpost.com/bl...

This POTUS could care less about this country; it's all about his legacy.

deertracker

Blah, blah, blah.................

Contango

Re: "Blah, blah, blah,"

The most intelligent thing you've written so far today!

deertracker

I have to type the only thing you understand!

SassieSuzieSez

I agree with Meowmix. Texas needs to say adios to the scummy USA. It's time. Again, atleast Rick Perry has a set and knows how to use them! He doesn't sit around singing I'd Like to Teach the World to Sing. What a fudge packer!

The Big Dog's back

He needs to spit them out, they belong to someone else.

freespeech1

your mom maybe?

jazzbo

freespeech1 , ask your mother for your comeback.

Donegan

A hypocrite trying to tell a joke he did not think was funny and obviously did not understand. Typical libtard.

jazzbo

Its not what I think - it just isn't funny --only a screwball like you would think so.

deertracker

He looks like a pedophile or serial killer in those glasses!

deertracker

What do you know about packing fudge Sassie? FREAK!

Contango

Re: "packing fudge,"

Ask Mr. Obama of the Down Low Club fame.

The Big Dog's back

pooh, you belong to the fudge packer hall of shame.

Contango

Re: "you belong,"

Looney, you need your meds adjusted.

deertracker

LOL @BD!!!!!!

The Big Dog's back

C'mon you coward perry, lead the charge.

sugar

Keep posting Dems you're making the liberals look good, I'm sure Amy Grubbe is so glad to have you registered with her party. Lol, is she still Dem Party head in this county?

Retiredfirefighter

Perry for being all about the u.s. constitution just violated it by calling in the national guard to do the jobs of border patrol agents who are for all intents and purposes cops on the federal level. Good one Perry you moron.

Contango

Re: "Perry,"

How easy is it to be condescending, smug & sanctimonious when one is comfortably sitting almost 2000 mis. away?

sugar

I think you retired should hand back some of that big fat pension you have from the taxpayers and donate to secure the borders or feed the thousands of immigrants.

Contango

Re: "hand back some of that big fat pension,"

They voted to return some in Detroit - it'll be a trend. Too many are underfunded.

http://www.cnbc.com/id/101854380

sugar

Yes, lol I did hear that on 760 AM radio today. Looks like big gov liberalism is nothing but a disaster all the way around. Get ready Retired, I'm sure it will come in your lifetime as undoubtedly you retired at about 50. Am I right?

Contango

Re: "big gov liberalism,"

Watch IL - it's comin'. The Dems have controlled the legislature for 30 yrs.

KA-BOOM!

http://www.chicagobusiness.com/a...

meowmix

sugar-- I'm gonna give you my vote for being one of the biggest fools that post on these forums. There, I have finally voted for a teatard for something!

sugar

Pffttt

meowmix

Exactly what I thought---you are a gas bag!

Contango

Re: "you are a gas bag!"

It didn't take you long before you completely ran out of anything that might even closely resemble intelligent thought did it?

jazzbo

@Contango-

Nothing really intelligent comes from you.

That's a fact.

deertracker

What do you expect from a guy that gets his vast knowledge from the label on a Kessler's bottle?!

jazzbo

He uses the bottle like a crystal ball.

meowmix

And "Pfffttt" was an intelligent response to you Connie?

jazzbo

meowmix-

Contango prides himself on his " education " but he comes across as a confused immature bumbler.
He may have gone to college --- but so did many others.

Someone once said of Contango : " You have been educated beyond your intelligence..."

Bingo !

deertracker

He went to college but didn't go to class!

jazzbo

Too drunk to make it to class.

Contango

Re: "Pfffttt"

A more than apropos response to your original "one of the biggest fools" nonsensical post.

deertracker

Sugar gets my vote too. Pooh is the biggest drunk, hands down!

meowmix

Too funny deertracker and jazzbo! See, that's another major difference between the dem's and tt's. We actually have a sense of humor,-- unlike sugars, mikey's, sam's, connie's, non-information's, etal on these forums.

I'm sure they are all well educated as are we, but I've often wondered when the college they went to mascot is Ronald McDonald, did they get a diploma upon graduation or just a Happy Meal???

Contango

Re: "We actually have a sense of humor,"

Yea, like third graders belching and laughing about it.

jazzbo

Yeah , like third graders phfarting and you walking through it.

Contango

Re: "Yeah , like third graders,"

And a third grader like you 'would' find that funny.

Thanks for the confirm.

jazzbo

ow , that hurt.

Contango

Re: "ow , that hurt."

More confirm.

jazzbo

You're not mature for a " college "student.

Kiddy Kollege , yes.

Contango

Re: "the biggest drunk, hands down!"

Nah, I could never beat you booze hound.

"I like Tequila!" - deertracker, 7/22/14

deertracker

I like Crown Royal too! Black of course!

The Big Dog's back

LOL @ deertracker. pooh, you should quit while you're behind.

Contango

Re: "I like Crown Royal too!"

No wonder you're a drunken fool, three time loser.

Gottathink

He had no choice ...it's an invasion
Shame on the President for not stopping it.

0_0

Them libtards sure have their panties in a wad. Once again obama and his minions prove they are incompetent idiots.

Illegal aliens are scum. Screw obama and the donkey he rode in on. obama is the do-nothing king of America. obama is a disgrace to the office.

obama and his followers shown up by a manly dude from Texas. HA HA HA HA HA HA HA pathetic losers.

obama's fault. never. always someone else is to blame. it's you, it's me, it's the gop, it's bush, it's the voters, it's the right, it's the tea party blah blah ... worst excuse for president in modern history.

It must be hell for obama to be afraid all of the time with no Leadership Ability.

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thinkagain

Matt, the SR comment section has devolved to the level of the old CT comment section.

Elwood

This forum is like listening to a bunch of third graders on the playground.
Come on, grow up.
I don't give a sh*t what you are, start acting like adults.

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The Hero Zone

^This.

grumpy

Agreed.

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The Hero Zone

So what are your thoughts on this, grumpy? I, for one, see it as a positive move. Some may call me a pee-pee-pants for it. But maybe we can talk about it. I trust you and a few others above to not be doodie heads when wanting to explore this.

Contango

Na-na, na-na, boo-boo; stick your head in doo-doo. :)

The Mexican border has been porous for over 300 yrs.

Spain encouraged Anglos to settle in TX in order to act as a buffer from northern Indian raids into Mexico.

Later, TX joined the union in part in order to help protect the state from incursions and aggression from Mexico.

One of the major issues, is that nowhere else on Earth does a first world (developed) country share such a large contiguous border with a third world (developing) country.

Thankfully, Mexico has the beginnings of producing a large middle class and it's developing status is somewhat diminishing.

Also, we must always remember that Mexico has it's own southern border issues with which it must contend.

arnmcrmn

The way many Americans are seeing it is, its about time someone is doing something. I honestly feel pretty embarrassed being an American under this president. We have a national crisis at the border which not only is causing more financial strain on this country, but also is putting us at an extreme risk for terrorist activity.

Then we have the downed plane and a more than lame response by our president, who again is doing absolutely nothing. Just this morning, 2 more Ukrainian jets were shot down by Russians and our response? Nothing. Then we have the never ending Israeli/Hamas bombings and killings, and who is the one over there? Kerry.

President Obama has been a total let down and the facts simply do not lie. His ratings are in the tank and people are seeing him for what he really is. A crooked Chicago politician who rode race and hope and change to the bank.

The Big Dog's back

Putin is looking for people like you. Enjoy the flight over to Russia. Oh, btw, watch out for those SAMs.

arnmcrmn

I read the SR online, but the comment section is really hard to bear. The SR has failed not only itself, but the rules its supposed to uphold. They pick and choose when they want to moderate and if they went through this thread alone, more than half the comments would be deleted.

I wish they would just start banning people for good when they violate rules, its pretty simple.

pntbutterandjelly

I am posing a serious question looking for serious replies to the topic at hand. "What would any of you do with 50,000 South American children standing and waiting for some form of action at our southern border?" (I am hoping you folks can visualize the above scenario in your mind's eye and then give an objective answer and simple reply. Personally...I really don't have a good answer.) (That, I believe, is the real problem, "No good solutions".)
Beyond that dilemma comes the next question, "How do we get them to stop coming at all?"

Contango

Re: "50,000 South American children,"

The estimates are already 70K in total for 2014.

The majority of both the problem AND the solution originate in DC.

See: The unintended consequences of the failed War on Drugs.

Perhaps if the U.S. aids the Mexicans on beefing up their southern borders? They don't care for the incursions either.

Mr. Obama is to meet with the leaders of Honduras, Guatemala and El Salvador this Fri.

Though I'm doubtful, let's see if anything other than political sophistry and puffery comes out of the mtg.

arnmcrmn

PBnJ. I would put them all on planes and drop them off at the nearest city in South America/Mexico and make a call to their government leaders that the planes are going to keep coming with drop offs as long as they keep coming over illegally. Its real easy, because its not our issue to deal with.

pntbutterandjelly

Thank you for your ideas and I am still looking for more that are seeming plausible.

Contango

Re: " I am still looking for more that are seeming plausible."

"plausible,"?

Meaning what?

knowitall

PBJ.....don't try on these blogs. They degenerate quickly.

Contango

Re: "They degenerate quickly."

Just asking him to expand on what he means when he uses the word "plausible." What is he looking for?

He certainly must have something in mind other than writing "No good solutions".

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The Hero Zone

PBJ, the plausible route is to erect physical barriers on our border. It is humane, can be done in a way that won't upset mice and cacti, and will reduce the number who cross. Imagine if this was done on the first or second time it was legislated? Most if not all those kids wouldn't have been able to get across to put us in this position in the first place.

-Seal the southern border.

-Process those here and return them (though from some reports around 65% have just been rubber stamped asylum status).

-Consistently broadcast the message that we are open for legal immigration, we are closed for illegal crossings.

-Train our own embassies and other governments in the proper way to assist those who wish to leave their country in how to interact with our system so they aren't dropped off on our door like a box of kittens.

There is nothing difficult about any of this and many of the options are quite humane and legal. I, like it seems you, am tired of being treated/considered as second-class in my own country of which I am a legal citizen.

Check this movement out, you may like it: http://www.fairus.org/

Gottathink

Feds Likely Spending Millions on Charter Jets to Transport Migrants to US Cities

http://www.breitbart.com/Breitba...

Do you like your federal tax dollars being spent this way? Wouldn't you rather this money be spent on American citizens?

Contango

A must read:

"MSNBC hosts laugh at Obama’s excuse for not cancelling fundraisers"

http://hotair.com/archives/2014/...

Even the NYT poked him -

"Sticking to His Travel Plans, at Risk of Looking Bad; Obama Maintains Schedule Despite World Crises"

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/07/2...

Pres. Obama's foreign policy: World peace through fundraising!

pntbutterandjelly

My question of asking for solutions has been only been replied to by two posters here. I guess no one else has any ideas. The point is that there really isn't any good solution or very few available that are plausible. (For those who don't know the meaning of "plausible"...Webster's Dictionary is a handy reference source.)

The silence is deafening.

Contango

Re: "very few available that are plausible."

Which are?

Pres. Clinton: "It depends on what the meaning of the word 'is,' is."

Literally throwing up your hands and writing:

"there really isn't any good solution" is a meaningless phrase.

Gottathink

My idea? I agree with arnmcrmn.
The idea of sending them back is plausible. I'd rather the US government spent the money to take them back to the southern Mexican border. They can apply to become citizens legally.

pntbutterandjelly

Contango,

What else do you do during the course of a day besides sit and type replies to comments here? (seriously)

And...I haven't seen any solutions coming from you on the topic at hand. Do you have any?

Contango

Re: "Do you have any?"

Are you incapable of understanding my original response to your question?

You continue to write variations of: "I really don't have a good answer," and then criticize others when they attempt. Sophistry and/or insanity.

Contango

To quote pbj: "The silence is deafening."

So what are your 'not so good' solutions or answers?

The Big Dog's back

pooh has never come up with solutions to anything. He doesn't want to be pinned down.

Contango

Re: "never come up with solutions to anything."

So what's your solution or answer, porky?

The Big Dog's back

pooh like to change the subject, never answers a question, and always throws an off topic question back at you. ALWAYS!

The Big Dog's back

pooh reads his koch brothers memos when he's not writing off topic blather.

arnmcrmn

I think my idea is very plausible. People, plane, minimal cost compared to what we are doing now (which is nothing) and a few hour flight.

At this point the government should buy up a few old airliners and keep them near the border. Kids and people cross over, kids and people get caught, board plane and fly back home.

My concern is the do nothing approach that Obama has taken. Does anyone not think terrorists see this as an opportunity? A weakness in the grid? You are a fool if you do not.

The Big Dog's back

The terrorists are already here. They live in tea-topia.

Gottathink

I agree with you arnmcrmn.

Dr. Information

I like your idea arnmcrmn but that would be to simple, to easy to do. Instead we live under an administration that would rather complicate the matters even more.

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