Liberals assess 2016 race as Clinton weighs bid

Former first lady is getting elbowed by other members of her party
Associated Press
Jul 16, 2014

Massachusetts Sen. Elizabeth Warren told a group of young Democrats Wednesday that the political system was "rigged" by powerful lobbyists and the wealthy and made an impassioned case for reducing burdensome student loans. Vice President Joe Biden said he had been on the front lines of debates over income inequality, climate change and gay marriage.

"I've been at the center of most progressive battles for a long, long time," Biden said, in a lengthy speech to Generation Progress. He heard shouts of "We love Joe," as he exited the stage.

Hillary Rodham Clinton remains the dominant figure in Democrats' early 2016 discussions but she is beginning to get elbowed by liberals in her party as she considers a second run for the presidency. Potential 2016 rivals like Biden, Warren and Maryland Gov. Martin O'Malley are in the middle of a summertime tour of Democratic constituencies, frequently appealing to liberal activists who want a more populist approach to the economy and question the deporting of an influx of immigrant children from Central America.

Clinton, who dominates early 2016 polls, may avoid a significant primary challenge if she runs for president. Biden has kept all options open, Warren has repeatedly denied interest, while O'Malley promotes his record in Maryland as a model in the party and is actively exploring a campaign. But the jousting shows an interest in an alternative, and preparations in the event Clinton doesn't run.

"Ongoing current events give her potential opponents an opportunity to position themselves in contrast to her," said Democratic strategist Tom McMahon.

Biden, who will address the liberal Netroots Nation conference in Detroit later this week along with Warren, noted his role as a leading advocate for President Barack Obama's agenda in a wide-ranging speech that touched upon issues like domestic violence, voting rights and the problems of corrosive politics.

Biden said he's often referred to as "middle class Joe," telling the students that the economic bargain of years past had been broken and needed to be restored.

"Folks in the middle, they need to be cut into the deal, not cut out," Biden said. "The folks at the bottom need to know that they have the chance to climb the ladder."

Biden has maintained ties to the early voting states of Iowa, New Hampshire and South Carolina and projects a blue-collar image in contrast to the former first lady's recent stumbles over discussions of her family's wealth.

Warren has become a hero of the party's economic populists, railing against high student loan debt at a time when Clinton has received six-figure speaking fees on college campuses. She passes them along to her family's foundation.

In her speech, Warren detailed "how Washington is a rigged game" and said her bill to help students refinance their college loans at lower rates had been blocked by Senate Republicans and she cast blame on Senate Republican leader Mitch McConnell, R-Ky.

"Our voices matter and it's time to use them. Together that's how we make sure that our government works," Warren said.

Warren has turned into a go-to surrogate for Senate candidates, campaigning for Democrats in Oregon, Kentucky and West Virginia. She planned to raise money for Rep. Gary Peters, who is seeking Michigan's open Senate seat, during her trip to Detroit for Netroots Nation and was ending the week in Los Angeles at the National Council of La Raza, where immigration will be a leading topic.

O'Malley has made trips to Iowa and New Hampshire in the past month and notably distanced himself from both Clinton and Obama on the crisis along the Mexican border.

"We are not a country that should turn children away and send them back to certain death," O'Malley told reporters in Nashville, Tennessee, during a weekend meeting of the National Governors Association.

Clinton cited the need to reunite the children with their families but said during a CNN forum in June that the U.S. needed to "send a clear message: Just because your child gets across the border doesn't mean your child gets to stay."

During her book tour, Clinton has frequently cited the economic struggles of many Americans who have yet to partake in the recovery and pointed to the broad-based growth in jobs during her husband's two terms in the White House. In an interview with German news magazine Der Spiegel, Clinton said the work of Thomas Piketty, the economist and best-selling author, showed that income inequality was "threatening to democracy."

That message could help her connect with liberals, who have been wary of her ties to Wall Street and the corporate support of the Clinton Foundation. Liberals are closely watching how Clinton might frame an economic agenda in a potential presidential campaign.

"She has to figure out what's her message for a new American electorate: African-Americans, Hispanics, young people, women, all of whom are suffering," said Roger Hickey, co-director of the Campaign for America's Future.

 

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Darwin's choice

Big piece of sheet.

obama/dog failing

holysee

Darwin's choice
WED, 07/16/2014 - 9:45PM
Big piece of sheet.

obama/dog failing

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JACKEL
WED, 07/16/2014 - 10:11PM
They always say if you can't say anything good about someone, don't say anything !

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holysee
WED, 07/16/2014 - 11:01PM
The trouble with our Liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so.
Ronald Reagan
Say it isn't SO ronraygun!
Reagan IS STILL an incompentent culo viejo enojado

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KnuckleDragger
THU, 07/17/2014 - 7:06AM
Well, Reagan is often thought of as one of the most popular Presidents, while your messiah is down at the bottom of the heap with Jimmy Carter. Thank goodness school is almost back in session so we can finally be rid of your nonsensical garbage. Now back to your chores, I think I hear your mommy calling.

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holysee
THU, 07/17/2014 - 8:39AM
Nice try. Reagan IS STILL an incompentent culo viejo enojado.
Reagan is
"thought of" by nastolgic teabagging rupuglicans only.

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coasterfan
THU, 07/17/2014 - 12:15AM
We liberals are acutely aware that the gap between the richest 1% and the rest of us began to seriously ramp up during the Reagan years. It stuns us that he is seen by some today as a great President, since a decided majority certainly didn't think of him that way while he was in office, due to the huge Iran Contra Scandal (a REAL presidential scandal) and the Federal Deficit, which ballooned during his time in office.

It's perhaps understandable that a disillusioned Republican Party, who hasn't nominated a strong candidate in 20+ years, now seeks to inflate Reagan far past mythological proportions. Anything to distract us from the George W.Bush years, and the failed McCain & Romney campaigns, ya know?

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THU, 07/17/2014 - 2:57AM
***INCOMING BLATHER!***

1980 Election Results:
Reagan got 44/50 states, 489 electoral votes, and 50.8% of the pop. vote

1984 Election Results:
Reagan got 49/50 states, 525 electoral votes, and 58.8% of the pop.vote

But, you may say, "Iran-Contra occurred inside the second term!" To which you'd be correct.

However, when we look at this chart (http://int.danville.k12.pa.us/te...) it shows that after ACCEPTING RESPONSIBILITY for the actions, President Reagan didn't even dip to his lowest point in his entire time as President. When he left office, he was around 55% "approved" which is only about 5% under when he was first elected.

So I fail to see where this "decided majority" exists. It appears that for perhaps 2-3 years of his 8 he was under 50%. Look coasterfan, I have no clue why you as a teacher have an absolute phobia of posting citations or trying to back up your painfully partisan points. I also feel terrible that I, a mere upstart youth, have to correct a former teacher of the year and perhaps come across as patronizing to an elder (who on some other things I agree).

But I can't just let your unsupported claims go, especially not as someone who once held a position of trust and guidance over young minds.

Tell me, coaster, would we EVER see a speech like this come from our current President? - http://youtu.be/R67CH-qhXJs (This is how a President takes responsibility for the things that have happened on his watch.)

Flash forward with me to our current President. One who hasn't had a 50%+ approval rating for five of his six years served with two more to go. I wonder, then, where the decided majority lies?

Oh I'll agree with you that the Republicans put up horrendous candidates. They're getting theirs, I assure you. But there is no comparison especially, ESPECIALLY, because for as much as "you liberals" are aware of the "1%" it would seem that the trend you claim started under Reagan (you know, pulling us out of the poo-hole we were in before with Carter #justsayin) has only flourished and thrived under both separate and simultaneous liberal-majority Congresses and Presidencies. Feel free to add in a "no thanks to Republicans" if you wish. I'll poke my head out the window and see if that changes anything.

Let's not constrain the deficit AND debt both increasing while this so-called "1%" also flourishes.

Now correct me if I'm wrong (http://www.opensecrets.org/pfds/) because I don't usually cite my sources, but it would seem that 7/10 top-ten-richest members of Congress are "we liberals".

At least in 2012 numbers, here you go: http://ballotpedia.org/Net_worth...

I suppose one must be judged on intentions and feelings, and not actual results? After all, our President signed a rollback of the STOCK Act provisions last year (http://www.opensecrets.org/news/...) that help to hide more information from the public especially when it comes to insider trading. If you bothered to look at any of the previous financial charts, you'll see that real estate and investments are (except trusts mostly for D elected persons) seem to be the largest sources of income in their portfolios.

I can only wonder how it feels for you to wrap yourself in these blankets and just ignore anything that you don't personally think is right, relevant, or factual. I will credit you this, you certainly don't flinch when you plunge your political knife into someone. You stare at them straight in the eyes, smiling, and whisper, "I'm just trying to help you." as the honey you pour in their ears displaces the blood (money) seeping from their wounds.

You are welcome to point out Republican shenanigans all you want, but don't you dare suppose that Democrats are any better nor any less hypocritical of what they do compared to what they say.

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Now that that is over, I'd like to ask you where you got the solar panel for your Prius as I'd be interested in looking at getting one for mine. Thank you.

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KnuckleDragger
THU, 07/17/2014 - 7:15AM
LOL. For a teacher Coaster sure is ignorant. Don't expect a response from him. When confronted with facts he usually clams up and moves on to some other nonsensical blather. Until he removes the obamaprobe from his backside he is not likely to respond to facts.

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Darwin's choice
THU, 07/17/2014 - 8:01AM
Coasterfan is just another democrat azzhole troll.

Think about what you've said, he taunts, twists, blatantly lies, and makes fairy tale references to some almighty democrat kingdom.

He's nothing more that a paid puppet, just like obama.

obama/coaster/fail

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Darwin's choice
THU, 07/17/2014 - 8:01AM
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Contango
THU, 07/17/2014 - 8:15AM
Reminds me of the ol' bankrupt and defunct "Air America."

I used to listen occasionally and HOPE for some 'intelligent' liberal discussion and viewpoints.

Inevitably after a couple of minutes, pretty much regardless of topic, the hosts and their guests would descend to a conclusion with something like: Can we all agree that it's Bush's fault?

Mindless chatter, not unlike what spews from the above progressive-socialist.

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Contango
THU, 07/17/2014 - 6:43AM
Re: "Reagan years."

Off-topic (per usual), however:

H*ll, EVERYONE was goin' broke during the Carter malaise which is why he got creamed at the polls.

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holysee
THU, 07/17/2014 - 8:40AM
Show some evidence.

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KnuckleDragger
THU, 07/17/2014 - 7:12AM
RE: 1%. You should be acutely aware because most of the 10 richest members of Congress are liberals. That's part of the reason that liberals only give lip service and do nothing. You are naive if you think the liberals in government have an altruistic bone in their collective bodies. Nonetheless things aren't looking good for the dems to regain control of the house, as well it appears that they will lose control of the Senate. Can't wait to see both you and the mutt melt down again.

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Contango
THU, 07/17/2014 - 7:23AM
Re: "altruistic bone in their collective bodies,"

Did you see this one?

"Workers struggle in Hamptons, playground for rich":

http://www.sanduskyregister.com/...

Four of the five districts are represented by Dems.

How's the construction of that affordable housing coming? NIMBY perhaps?

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THU, 07/17/2014 - 4:05AM
"Massachusetts Sen. Elizabeth Warren told a group of young Democrats Wednesday that the political system was 'rigged'..."

"...they need to be cut into the deal, not cut out,..."

"She has to figure out what's her message for a new American electorate: African-Americans, Hispanics, young people, women, all of whom are suffering,"

So this is what to expect from Democratic candidates? Rigged systems, different messages/"promises" to different people based not on common humanity but gender or skin color? Ladies and gentlemen, this is garbage. Pure, hot garbage. Every single quote is divisive. What's worse is those who are open to it are allowing someone else to tell them they aren't as good as the person next to them!

Are you a woman? Well, apparently all that matters to you is free birth control. Are you of Hispanic descent? The only thing you care about is letting illegal immigrants into the country. Are you black? Well you're just screwed because supposedly after fifty plus years of "fairness" nothing seems to have actually gotten fairer. But vote for them because next time they'll give you whatever you want. Five more minutes of recess and chocolate milk on Fridays.

Despicable.

Oh and Republicans? The same ones who can only parrot "no Obamacare, no Obamacare" while doing nothing about it? The same party who wants to involve the JUDICIAL BRANCH unnecessarily between the legislative and executive ones?! The needling, immoral campaigners in Kentucky and Mississippi who use the same tactics they decry their Democratic opponents use only against fresh blood? The same ones who are so anti-government that they tell their constituents that if they don't vote the [establishment] Republican incumbent in that their state's piece of the pie is threatened?!

Whether holysee realizes it or not, his jester simulation touched upon one of the best political speeches of the current times. A speech that doesn't divide the population. A speech that doesn't treat blacks differently than whites, men differently than women. A speech that actually tries to unify the population by illustrating a common purpose against a small number of people who think they're better than you.

Those same people - benevolent masterminds - who will tell you who to hate. Who hates you. THEY will tell YOU how you live and that you are poor or insufficient by their measures. That THEIR system is rigged against you because you are too stupid to do any damn thing yourself! You just have to trust them to fix it...

"A Time for Choosing" (transcript: http://www.reagan.utexas.edu/arc...)

YouTube: http://youtu.be/qXBswFfh6AY

Let me expand only a bit on holysee's quote, only a portion of this powerful speech as chronicled above (and second possibly to his first Inauguration Speech: http://youtu.be/LToM9bAnsyM)

"This is the issue of this election: Whether we believe in our capacity for self-government or whether we abandon the American revolution and confess that a little intellectual elite in a far-distant capitol can plan our lives for us better than we can plan them ourselves.

You and I are told increasingly we have to choose between a left or right. Well I'd like to suggest there is no such thing as a left or right. There's only an up or down—[up] man's old—old-aged dream, the ultimate in individual freedom consistent with law and order, or down to the ant heap of totalitarianism. And regardless of their sincerity, their humanitarian motives, those who would trade our freedom for security have embarked on this downward course.

In this vote-harvesting time, they use terms like the "Great Society," or as we were told a few days ago by the President, we must accept a greater government activity in the affairs of the people. But they've been a little more explicit in the past and among themselves; and all of the things I now will quote have appeared in print. These are not Republican accusations. For example, they have voices that say, "The cold war will end through our acceptance of a not undemocratic socialism." Another voice says, "The profit motive has become outmoded. It must be replaced by the incentives of the welfare state." Or, "Our traditional system of individual freedom is incapable of solving the complex problems of the 20th century." Senator Fullbright has said at Stanford University that the Constitution is outmoded. He referred to the President as "our moral teacher and our leader," and he says he is "hobbled in his task by the restrictions of power imposed on him by this antiquated document." He must "be freed," so that he "can do for us" what he knows "is best." And Senator Clark of Pennsylvania, another articulate spokesman, defines liberalism as "meeting the material needs of the masses through the full power of centralized government."

Well, I, for one, resent it when a representative of the people refers to you and me, the free men and women of this country, as "the masses." This is a term we haven't applied to ourselves in America. But beyond that, "the full power of centralized government"—this was the very thing the Founding Fathers sought to minimize. They knew that governments don't control things. A government can't control the economy without controlling people. And they know when a government sets out to do that, it must use force and coercion to achieve its purpose. They also knew, those Founding Fathers, that outside of its legitimate functions, government does nothing as well or as economically as the private sector of the economy."

Why can't we have, D/R/L or I, someone as articulate and impassioned as this? Someone who wants to empower YOU to live YOUR life and not seek to control or have you wait for someone else to do something with it? Someone who wants you to be inspired by your country and the wisdom of its Founding in the Enlightenment?

Instead...instead we have the garbage in the article above and none better from most Republicans. As a young person I am very saddened and disappointed.

P.S. - Here's the transcript to the inauguration address: http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/w...

I'd challenge you all to read or watch this and see just how eternal these words are, almost as an eerie omen of today.

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sugar
THU, 07/17/2014 - 6:33AM
Yes Hero Zone we are all waiting for that one inspiring person. It would be wonderful for 2016. I don't see it coming from the right and what the left has to offer is "it's her turn".

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Contango
THU, 07/17/2014 - 6:53AM
Last night I saw a commercial for a new TV series entitled "Madam Secretary," with a blonde haired Tea Leoni.

(Interestingly, she was formerly married to a satyr.)

On the surface it certainly looks like subtle campaign propaganda.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt3501...

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KnuckleDragger
THU, 07/17/2014 - 7:02AM
I hope she runs. With all the dirt on her she isn't likely to win. Funny how she is now trying to distance herself from Obama. Even she is smart enough to know that if she wants to make a Presidential run that she needs to get as far removed from the most unpopular President since WWII as possible. Being tied in any way to Obama is likely to equal failure in 2016.

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worddrow811
THU, 07/17/2014 - 8:39AM
Black black black black black! the separation of races by color description is WRONG on so many levels that it threatens the unity of our country if there is any unity left.

We are all of the human race and until the politicians focus on that, Barney, the dinosaur, may as well be president because no one is being effective in reuniting our American citizens of any heritage.

Africans, Hispanics, Germans, English, Japanese, Chinese, French or whatever all have the same body parts. We can change if we want to and I want to know why some of them don't want the same things for children?

Hillary will make a better president than any man out there and we should give her the chance to prove it. I think the men are all cowards and afraid of her because they know she is the best person for the job.

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Darwin's choice

"hillary will make a better president than any man out there and we should give the chance to prove it"

Absolute proof you're the biggest moron in the State of Ohio.

obama/failing

KnuckleDragger

Liberal guilt. First they had to prove they weren't racist (despite the overwhelming history to the contrary for democrats), now they have to prove they aren't sexist. Next go around they will have to prove they aren't homophobic by trying to elect the first transgendered President.

worddrow811

You need to look at the three fingers pointing at you when you call anyone names. your male insecurity is showing big time.

jazzbo

It's not a male.

JACKEL

They always say if you can't say anything good about someone, don't say anything !

holysee

The trouble with our Liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so.
Ronald Reagan
Say it isn't SO ronraygun!
Reagan IS STILL an incompentent culo viejo enojado

KnuckleDragger

Well, Reagan is often thought of as one of the most popular Presidents, while your messiah is down at the bottom of the heap with Jimmy Carter. Thank goodness school is almost back in session so we can finally be rid of your nonsensical garbage. Now back to your chores, I think I hear your mommy calling.

holysee

Nice try. Reagan IS STILL an incompentent culo viejo enojado.
Reagan is
"thought of" by nastolgic teabagging rupuglicans only.

KnuckleDragger

Really? Are you like 12? Nice try using Spanish to get past moderation. I will take it that since all you can do is name call that you have no proof of your assertion.

coasterfan

We liberals are acutely aware that the gap between the richest 1% and the rest of us began to seriously ramp up during the Reagan years. It stuns us that he is seen by some today as a great President, since a decided majority certainly didn't think of him that way while he was in office, due to the huge Iran Contra Scandal (a REAL presidential scandal) and the Federal Deficit, which ballooned during his time in office.

It's perhaps understandable that a disillusioned Republican Party, who hasn't nominated a strong candidate in 20+ years, now seeks to inflate Reagan far past mythological proportions. Anything to distract us from the George W.Bush years, and the failed McCain & Romney campaigns, ya know?

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***INCOMING BLATHER!***

1980 Election Results:
Reagan got 44/50 states, 489 electoral votes, and 50.8% of the pop. vote

1984 Election Results:
Reagan got 49/50 states, 525 electoral votes, and 58.8% of the pop.vote

But, you may say, "Iran-Contra occurred inside the second term!" To which you'd be correct.

However, when we look at this chart (http://int.danville.k12.pa.us/te...) it shows that after ACCEPTING RESPONSIBILITY for the actions, President Reagan didn't even dip to his lowest point in his entire time as President. When he left office, he was around 55% "approved" which is only about 5% under when he was first elected.

So I fail to see where this "decided majority" exists. It appears that for perhaps 2-3 years of his 8 he was under 50%. Look coasterfan, I have no clue why you as a teacher have an absolute phobia of posting citations or trying to back up your painfully partisan points. I also feel terrible that I, a mere upstart youth, have to correct a former teacher of the year and perhaps come across as patronizing to an elder (who on some other things I agree).

But I can't just let your unsupported claims go, especially not as someone who once held a position of trust and guidance over young minds.

Tell me, coaster, would we EVER see a speech like this come from our current President? - http://youtu.be/R67CH-qhXJs (This is how a President takes responsibility for the things that have happened on his watch.)

Flash forward with me to our current President. One who hasn't had a 50%+ approval rating for five of his six years served with two more to go. I wonder, then, where the decided majority lies?

Oh I'll agree with you that the Republicans put up horrendous candidates. They're getting theirs, I assure you. But there is no comparison especially, ESPECIALLY, because for as much as "you liberals" are aware of the "1%" it would seem that the trend you claim started under Reagan (you know, pulling us out of the poo-hole we were in before with Carter #justsayin) has only flourished and thrived under both separate and simultaneous liberal-majority Congresses and Presidencies. Feel free to add in a "no thanks to Republicans" if you wish. I'll poke my head out the window and see if that changes anything.

Let's not constrain the deficit AND debt both increasing while this so-called "1%" also flourishes.

Now correct me if I'm wrong (http://www.opensecrets.org/pfds/) because I don't usually cite my sources, but it would seem that 7/10 top-ten-richest members of Congress are "we liberals".

At least in 2012 numbers, here you go: http://ballotpedia.org/Net_worth...

I suppose one must be judged on intentions and feelings, and not actual results? After all, our President signed a rollback of the STOCK Act provisions last year (http://www.opensecrets.org/news/...) that help to hide more information from the public especially when it comes to insider trading. If you bothered to look at any of the previous financial charts, you'll see that real estate and investments are (except trusts mostly for D elected persons) seem to be the largest sources of income in their portfolios.

I can only wonder how it feels for you to wrap yourself in these blankets and just ignore anything that you don't personally think is right, relevant, or factual. I will credit you this, you certainly don't flinch when you plunge your political knife into someone. You stare at them straight in the eyes, smiling, and whisper, "I'm just trying to help you." as the honey you pour in their ears displaces the blood (money) seeping from their wounds.

You are welcome to point out Republican shenanigans all you want, but don't you dare suppose that Democrats are any better nor any less hypocritical of what they do compared to what they say.

- - - - -

Now that that is over, I'd like to ask you where you got the solar panel for your Prius as I'd be interested in looking at getting one for mine. Thank you.

KnuckleDragger

LOL. For a teacher Coaster sure is ignorant. Don't expect a response from him. When confronted with facts he usually clams up and moves on to some other nonsensical blather. Until he removes the obamaprobe from his backside he is not likely to respond to facts.

jazzbo

KnuckleNutz , you are really dishonest.

Coaster doesn't clam up and dodge. He always gives clear and thoughtful answers ...unlike you and your ilk.

So , did you do are real good job polishing the 10th Mountain Division's boots ? Did you lick em ? I hope they put a few of them up your ass.
They didn't find WMD's now , did they ?
Funny how you clammed up and didn't respond.

sugar

You NEVER offer anything jazz I but ignorant childish insults. Are you an adult? No doubt you are the liberal version of an adult.

jazzbo

Ef - you.

Darwin's choice

queer.

KnuckleDragger

^^I think this pretty much proves your point sugar. Apparently his mom isn't doing a very good job of monitoring his internet usage.

The Big Dog's back

You have nothing knucklehead. Just your same old right wingnut bullspit.

KnuckleDragger

Another 12 year old with no proof of anything, only insults. Apparently his mommy isn't doing her job either. Nice crack on my 21 years of military service. Since you can't ever seem to offer up any proof to your assertions, I'm not going to bother posting the numerous reports of both WMDs and evidence of WMD production that are easily found with some research. So now you bring up the 10th mountain division when just a short time ago you had to be told that there was no such division as the 101st mountain division? Whatever jizzbo, you're a moron.

The Big Dog's back

You didn't have 21 years of military service you liar.

KnuckleDragger

That's all ya got? Pathetic. Loser.

jazzbo

@ KnuckleNutz

"I'm not going to bother posting the numerous reports of both WMDs and evidence of WMD production that are easily found with some research."

-- Just post one... I dare you... give me just ONE link...I DARE you!

PS

And don't think I haven't noticed your attempts to qualify your statements.

jazzbo

@ KnuckleNutz -

I knew you had nothing to support your claims.
All you had to do is give just ONE support link.
Youre a liar and a phony.

21 years in the service -- another lie.

"I will take it that since all you can do is name call that you have no proof of your assertion."
-- Eat it.

The Big Dog's back

I'm so sick of you right wingnuts and all of your crap. Be a man and think for yourself.

KnuckleDragger

This from the man who let's the democrat party think for him.

Darwin's choice

Coasterfan is just another democrat azzhole troll.

Think about what you've said, he taunts, twists, blatantly lies, and makes fairy tale references to some almighty democrat kingdom.

He's nothing more that a paid puppet, just like obama.

obama/coaster/fail

Darwin's choice

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Contango

Reminds me of the ol' bankrupt and defunct "Air America."

I used to listen occasionally and HOPE for some 'intelligent' liberal discussion and viewpoints.

Inevitably after a couple of minutes, pretty much regardless of topic, the hosts and their guests would descend to a conclusion with something like: Can we all agree that it's Bush's fault?

Mindless chatter, not unlike what spews from the above progressive-socialist.

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