Comprehensive unofficial election results

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Andy Ouriel
May 8, 2014

Did you miss the Register's Decision 2014 live election coverage? All the clips can be viewed in the player below.

The program includes interviews, candidates, supporters and others. Our guests included reporter Alissa Widman, Kurt Landefeld and Sharon Barnes of Erie MetroParks, Joe Centers of the Norwalk Reflector, Sandusky City Schools Supt. Eugene Sanders, SCS school board member Tom Patterson and levy committee co-chairs Craig Hofer and Mary Aaron.

Pick up Wednesday's Sandusky Register and Norwalk Reflector for the most comprehensive election coverage from the May primary.

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Erie County                                        VOTES  — % OF VOTE
62 of 62 precincts reporting...


Perkins Local Schools Levy

FOR THE TAX LEVY .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .       1,549       42.36

AGAINST THE TAX LEVY.  .  .  .  .  .  .   2,108       57.64

 

Sandusky City Schools Levy

FOR THE TAX LEVY .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .        1,479      69.86

AGAINST THE TAX LEVY.  .  .  .  .  .  .     638       30.14

 

Erie MetroParks Tax Levy

FOR THE TAX LEVY .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .       5,057      52.52

AGAINST THE TAX LEVY.  .  .  .  .  .  .   4,571      47.48

 

Castalia Village Tax Levy

FOR THE TAX LEVY .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .       84      70.59

AGAINST THE TAX LEVY.  .  .  .  .  .  .   35      29.41

 

Margaretta Township Tax Levy

FOR THE TAX LEVY .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .        379     51.85

AGAINST THE TAX LEVY.  .  .  .  .  .  .   352     48.15

Comments

Ralph J.

VOTE NO TO ALL TAXES!!

Ralph J.

BTW, I am the last to know.

8ballinthesidepocket

And no death certificates either, libs!!

Justwow

Haha. It is funny to me that the only thing that doesn't pass is Perkins Schools!!!!! If they want to pass a levy, you would think by now, they would know what they need to do. Dumb as*es
Keep it up and you will be merging with Sandusky, LOL.

streak

I just open enrolled my daughter from Perkins to sandusky for next year because of what they offer. Sandusky is on the rise and I like the direction the schools are going.

Perkins Resident

Please tell that to the flood of Sandusky kids who are overcrowding our schools due to open enrollment. Thank you.

streak

Open enrollment has nothing to do with the no voters. Open enrollment has saved Perkins schools financially the last 4 years. The issue is trust and also the fact that many people who live in Perkins live outside their means in order to escape the inner city. I don't even think it will pass once gunner is gone. However, it will pass if you mention merger.

Perkins Resident

Nothing in my comment said anything about no voters or voting no. Re-read my comment and try to respond again. The classrooms are overcrowded with Sandusky kids. So, again, please spread the word that Sandusky schools have more to offer than Perkins, to all of the Sandusky kids that are open enrolled in Perkins. Thank you.

44870 South

Excuse me...the "flood" you are referring to occurred occurred 4 years ago...Maybe your fearless leaders over there should have built more classrooms instead of a new football stadium. I know for a FACT that many of those kids have returned to Sandusky, as they figured out the grass is no greener on the other side. Besides, if not for those "open-enrolled" kids (because we all know Perkins doesn't consider them "Perkins kids"), Perkins would be shut down by now. I also have removed my children from the Perkins school system and many more are doing the same.

Perkins Resident

Thank you for doing so. I can only hope more follow suit.

44870 South

Really? I am a Perkins Alumni and live in Perkins...trust me, Perkins wants my kid there.

Perkins Resident

Congratulations

44870 South

Why thanks! I appreciate that:)

Perkins Resident

No problem. Enjoy your Starbucks tomorrow. If you lived in Sandusky you wouldn't b able to. Well, according to our fearless leaders you wouldn't.

44870 South

Hahaha! Ok...that was funny...gotta give that to you! :) Starbucks! That was about the dumbest thing I heard yet from them.

Perkins Resident

I was honestly on the fence on which way I was going to vote until I read that nonsense in the paper about Starbucks.

mcddcm

Well, we actually did research, including going to most area schools and discussing what they would do for our very bright daughter. The school system that turned out the best, by far, was Sandusky City Schools! She loves it, has zero complaints, and is surrounded by great kids and teachers. The new gifted school, RCAAS, is the ONLY full-time gifted school in the entire area. It has kids open-enrolled from Perkins, Huron, Margaretta, etc.
My point is do not assume that Sandusky is terrible and has nothing to offer. Our ACTUAL experience is that SCS is great! I wish other area school districts well. It sure looks like they have some major challenges ahead.

Perkins Resident

I can't wait to vote no again in August.

Gardenman

I am not sure how one can vote NO on ALL taxes?? Taxes are a fact of life and they support services we need. That does not mean that all requests for an increase in taxes are justified. BUT to say vote NO on all taxes really would throw us back into the Stone Age where its everyone for themselves.

I mean really would we not want to educate kids, we will just let those who have murdered in Sandusky run loose and free to do it over and over again because there is no police or court system. When we suddenly are ill and need to be taken to the hospital there will be no EMS. AND if we take in our own cars there will be no roads, stop signs, roads if they even exist will not be plowed of snow or patched so we will dodge huge holes in the street, no signal lights you know all those things taxes pay for.

My advice if you wish to live in a NO tax place fine but don't take me with you I am not ready to be a hermit. We may not like taxes but they are a fact of life and necessary.

JMOP

I don't vote no on all issues, but I would LOVE for it to be everyone for themselves, instead of every tax payer for themselves, lifetime government dependents, foreign aid for countries who hate us,and a soccer field at Guantanamo Bay prison the list goes on.

Gardenman

Oh, I agree with you there. I have long been against millions going out in foreign aid. AND that is to countries who love us or hate us. For one I think Iraq owes the US a thus has a debt for liberating their country. Sounds perfectly workable to be that US is given a 25% discount on all crude imported into the US.

I remember well not long after the second Iraq War the son of a friend of mine who happen to be the G6 (Community Affairs Officer) in Mosul. He said the US gave FREE cable TV, free medical/hospitalization, free electricity, free garbage pick-up to all the residents. They paid no taxes none what so ever. Said Iraqi in Mosul had raised a huge stink when gasoline at the pump went to 20 cents a gallon and wanted the US to pay the difference to bring it back to 5 cents a gallon when Sadamm was in power. He said the common phrase said to him by Iraqi citizens when they wanted this and that was.........Hey you US wanted Iraqi and now you have it so you pay for the things Sadamm gave us for free.

Sad part is the United States gives money out to foreign countries right and left and allows many of our senior citizens live in semi poverty for they will not help them. Yet be it an Iraqi and they get FREE everything compliments of US Government

God Of Thunder

I would like to know when 17 year old kids got to start voting in the primaries. When did that start. This i the first time I've noticed an envelope on the table at the polls.

Oh..I know. The state reps started to allow that so that the schools can give extra credit to more kids to vote for levies, that way, they don't have to fix the unconstitutional way that schools are funded.

ContraryAnn

The Primary is not an election... it's a preferential primary (where did you go to school?)

Anyone who will be 18 by the General ELECTION may register and vote in the Primary.

Where DID you go to school?

Perkins Resident

Does this mean we can continue to drink Starbucks?

44870 South

LOL!!!

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2cents

Levies are paid with property taxes correct? Well if Sandusky has a higher number of renters than it does property owners, why would anyone renting care if they voted for a levy?

42.3% rented
40.37% owned
17.29% vacant

http://www.realestate.com/local/...

The percent of owner occupied properties in Sandusky is 22.73% below the national average.
The percent of rental properties in Sandusky is 23.13% above the national average which is typical for urban areas.

Perkins Resident

All levies pass in Sandusky.

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2cents

It is interesting, almost Socialist in a way. I find it odd that one can vote for a tax levy to be instilled on a property owner when they themselves are not property owners. It is sort of like the sin tax they are voting on in Cleveland to fund the sports facilities today. If you never use the facilities why do you have to pay taxes on a cold beer to fix them up. Don't get me wrong, these taxes at one time were justified, but in todays society, many school systems operate way out of the norm and education is second or third to sports and associated activities. So where is the sin tax? It is in the property tax in todays world! And ironically when the property tax goes up, so does the rent. And when the rent goes up and what percentage of that is subsidized by state and federal free money to low income renters, our debt goes up and the fed comes back wanting more tax $$$ LOL just love it in America today.

The Bizness

I am a home owner in Sandusky, and I voted for the renewal.

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2cents

I am not criticizing you, the home owner. Sometimes I try to encourage readers to read between the lines I write to come up with their own thoughts. I have always written here to make people think. Well most of the time, sometimes I do B--- : )

Tsu Dho Nimh

Property owners base rent on the cost of maintaining the property, which included property taxes. To suggest that a renter doesn't feel the impact of taxes is unfair.

coasterfan

If only Republicans would vote to increase the Minimum Wage. No one who works fulltime should be unable to afford food, clothing and shelter. If they work fulltime, and still don't make enough to cover basic expenses, we end up subsidizing their housing and food stamps.

It's pretty simple...these are people who can't afford to save anything, so every dime they earn gets spent and put right back into our economy. Contrast that with the 1% who mostly hoard their profits, while accepting corporate welfare/subsidies which we middle class folks - of course - pay for. By keeping minimum wage low, rich Congressmen assure that the middle class pay for the poor.

The signs are all around for anyone open-minded enough to notice. Worker productivity has increased 90% since 1980, but wages have only increased 8%. Guess who ended up with all the money?

Darwin's choice

So, why don't trolls like yourself just give them the extra money they need? You seem to have more than enough, what with a pension, and your paycheck from daily blathering on this site. You fail to see that you can't possibly post enough crap here to hide the fact that the democrats and obama are failures. His recent hiring of a high profile defense lawyer is telling of whats coming to him! Also, worker productivity has increased 90%, since long ago, and guess who ends up with all the money? Lets ask a million or so people in democratic Detroit that question. Want to guess where all the money has gone for 50+ years?

obama/democrat/coasterfan failure!

Here's another obama failure for you, 'fan, simplified for even you....
In order to insure the uninsured, we first have to un-insure the insured. Next, we require the newly un-insured to be re-insured. To re-insure the newly un-insured, they are required to pay extra charges to be re-insured. The extra charges are required so that the original insured, who became un-insured and then re-insured, can pay enough extra capital so that the original un-insured can be insured for free.

damocrat proud!

ContraryAnn

For nearly 20 years, the Legislature has been charged by even the Ohio Supreme Court to find a fairer way to finance schools and do away with property tax.

For nearly 20 years a mostly Republican Legislature has failed/refused to do so.

The latest effort of the governor was to strip state funding and channel it toward private for-profit 'public' charter schools. But that just means local taxpayers are being hit for more taxes in addition to the state taxes we continue to pay.

When that finally gets to the Court... which it will.... maybe change will be forced.

Justme...

Don't count on it. Democrats are no more interested in changing the way schools are funded than Republicans are. I wish I were wrong. The courts have already declared that the funding system needs to change...20 years ago. And it hasn't They declared it unconstitutional, but have no way of forcing the change.

OH-IO

I am a homeowner and vote yes for the school levy. I understand your position but you can't compare our children who are to be the actual life in our community to a sin tax. These children whether you have them currently in the school system or not are being groomed to be upright and productive citizens for our society. You ARE and WILL benefit from that unlike the sin tax. If you think crime and mayhem is bad let the schools go unfunded and it gets worst. You and I are not qualified to assess actual cost to run a school. Leave that to people like my sister who works for the school and those who chose to dedicate their lives to the cause. Another option is to go the Board of Education meeting. It's easy to sit on the sideline and says what you don't know and to be selfish to exclude or children. Perkins is doing a great job of it unfortunately and it's not what Sandusky wants. They want better.

OH-IO

I am a homeowner and vote yes for the school levy. I understand your position but you can't compare our children who are to be the actual life in our community to a sin tax. These children whether you have them currently in the school system or not are being groomed to be upright and productive citizens for our society. You ARE and WILL benefit from that unlike the sin tax. If you think crime and mayhem is bad let the schools go unfunded and it gets worst. You and I are not qualified to assess actual cost to run a school. Leave that to people like my sister who works for the school and those who chose to dedicate their lives to the cause. Another option is to go the Board of Education meeting. It's easy to sit on the sideline and says what you don't know and to be selfish to exclude or children. Perkins is doing a great job of it unfortunately and it's not what Sandusky wants. They want better.

The Bizness

Because property owners pass down those increased taxes in the form of increase rent. Btw sandusky's was a renewal nothing new.

Perkins Resident

Not trying to start an argument, but what about metro? When the landlord passes that increase on do we the taxpayers pay the increase? What is the percentage of metro in Sandusky?

The Bizness

I personally do not know how Metro works, but I think the percentage isn't as high as one would assume.

JACKEL

Most landlords raise the rent according to the additional tax burden. I do not live in Perkins but would be very disappointed to the people's no votes. It is about educating your children. Some one buckled down to educate you !

ContraryAnn

renters pay taxes in their rent. Watch for rents to rise if the tax is new.

Really, where DID you all get your edddicashun?

ContraryAnn

Oh. It was a renewal? Then it only raises the money approved when first passed. Sometimes millage increases or decreases depending on property valuation and how many mills it takes to raise the original dollars.

YoMamma

Duh... do you think the owners of the rentals eat the additional taxes? Besides the levy was a RENEWAL so taxes did not increase.

Perkins Resident

If the property value went up your taxes went up.

Justme...

Wrong Perkins Resident. Schools cannot collect additional money from existing levies - even as property values rise. If they had put a REPLACEMENT levy on the ballot, they could collect more. But this was a renewal, so no one's taxes will go up.

Tsu Dho Nimh

true

Perkins Resident

When your property values go up, your taxes go up. Period.

Justme...

Perkins Resident, vote no all day long, but do not spread false information. Your taxes go up when your property values go up, but NOT the taxes you pay for levies. Schools are not allowed to collect any more money that what was voted on - unless they put a brand new levy on the ballot, or a REPLACEMENT. Renewals do not cost property owners more, nor do they generate money above and beyond what the original levy generated. Please get more informed.

WeThePeople1965

No, that's a lie. It was a proposed ADDITIONAL tax levy.

Justme...

This conversation with Perkins Resident pertained to the Sandusky levy (follow it above). He said it increased taxes in Sandusky, and it didn't

Perkins Resident

Not sure where you read that. I never said such a thing. I said when your property values go up so does your taxes.

Justme...

You said that in response to YoMamma, who said this was a renewal and didn't raise taxes. You then said, if your property value goes up your taxes go up...implying the renewal in Sandusky was costing home owners additional money. Many people think as property values go up, schools collect more from their levies, but they do not.

BEHAPPY

The rental property in Sandusky is NAUUUUUSEATING!!!!!!

YoMamma

So is not having your own zip code!

Perkins Resident

What does not having your own zip code have to do with anything? Are we in 5th grade?

44870 South

@YoMamma - hahahahaha!!!!!!!! good one!

Perkins Resident

I honestly don't understand what sharing a zip code has to do with anything. I just don't get it.

worddrow811

Here's why Perkins doesn't like sharing a zip code, in my opinion. They believe themselves to be better than the residents of Sandusky and think they should have more separation besides their own schools and Perkins name. It is obvious when one looks through the phone listings how many have Perkins in their address, just so others will not think that they live in Sandusky. they think they are special! Does that clarify it for you?

Perkins Resident

Can you name someone in Perkins that feels that way or are you just ASSuming?

Perkins Resident

After reading your post again, you come off as being jealous. I'm sure you aren't jealous, but it comes off that way. I don't know anyone in Perkins who thinks that way or anyone that give a darn about a zip code. If that's what some of you in Sandusky feel, God help you. You should find better things to do with your time than worry about how and what Perkins Residents think and feel, or better yet, how you think we think and feel. I hope one day you find some peace in your life and get over your childish ways.

worddrow811

Arrogance is the word that comes to mind and no one is going to actually say they think they are better than others. My peace is just fine and no jealousy involved because I don't live in Perkins township or Sandusky, so you assumed quite a bit yourself. Neither am I being childish as you asked a question and I gave my opinion. Get over your superior attitude already. H.A.N.D.=have a nice day.

Perkins Resident

Oh yes, my so superior attitude. If you don't live in our community, why are you so concerned what you believe Perkins Residents think and feel? Kind of weird to put it mildly.

worddrow811

again, I am not so concerned as much as you appear to not understand English. I made a comment and you keep attacking it for some unknown reason. Have you ever looked in the phone book and wondered why Perkin's residents feel the need to list that information? No? Your question was answered and if they didn't feel the need to disassociate themselves from Sandusky, they would not choose to put the word Perkins next to their address. Thus, the zip code for both areas is 44870 unless and until they get a new number to clearly differentiate Sandusky from Perkins Township. I can't be any more clear and that is my opinion, right or wrong, it is just an opinion. Attack away.

Perkins Resident

Double post.

underthebridge

Let the finger pointing and head scratching begin.

sugar

Whoever mentioned that the taxpayer gets stuck for the landlords rent increase due to increased property taxes is right on the money. so us suckers who pay our own property taxes get to pay the section 8 landlords property taxes too. Along with the SNAP, TANF, WICC, HEAP, CHIP, PIPP, obamacare, obamaphones ..........

Wald

I voted no for the Perkins school levy, and the reason is Terry Chapman. The BOEs vote to move the millage back to where it rightfully belonged was 4-1. The fact that Chapman voted to keep the millage for new buildings instead of moving it back was a sign that the BOE is still not to be trusted.

Bherrle

You voted no because of 1 board member out of five, and because he actually did what he said he would do if he were re-elected, which he was last November.

He said that he would not vote to move millage back during the debates, he got re-elected with that statement on record, and you voted no on this levy because he actually did what he said he would do????? That shows a lack of trust??

Am I living in Bizarro World?

Wald

The trust issue doesn't stem from what he said at some debate. The fact that he voted to not move the millage back in spite of the huge rift that move caused between the BOE and the community shows how out of touch he is. How can anyone who was upset by the first millage move ever trust him with more money when he refused to heed their concerns? I take umbrage with that and don't want to hand over more money to people who I don't trust to use it properly. He was only re-elected because some people started spreading rumors/lies (coughBHerrlecough) that Franklin was in favor of cutting all sports. I worry that if another levy is passed, the first move of the BOE will be to move the millage again. So like I said, BHerrle, no trust. Now I'm off to get some Starbucks.

Hawkeye

Franklin should of been elected he is the best representation of what it means to live within a budget or not having enough money and working with what he has, Hell, the side of his house isn't painted white yet but his daughter went off to med school, I'm sure there was priorities. HMMM sounds like education took front seat rather than what his neighbors thought.

AJ Oliver

A WHOLE LOT of anonymous cowardice on display here.
Man and/or Woman Up !!

worddrow811

Hey Arnold, I'm impressed for a moment. It's gone now thanks to your name calling. By the way, woman started out being spelled wombman and eventually came to be spelled woman. If we are anonymous posters, are you a known, name-calling bully trying to start a fight?

SanduskyGuardian

come up with something new.

BIGHAWK

I think if you dig deep and analyze the levy system, you will find the underlying issues, 1st Perkins has more value, and the township taxes the highest city level mil in the county 13+ dollars, the city of Sandusky on the other hand has a much lower city mill, just over $5. The school are just the opposite Perkins mill 28 while Sandusky $40/thousand. But Ohio's ad valoreum tax sytem is anything but tranparent. In short if Perkins wants to pass a levy mandate a max $5 township levy, and give the other $8 where it is needed, the schools.

stayfit

Welcome to a community of no voters that will make Perkins into a more mediocre school and take away opportunity from kids for internships and scholarships for what would have been less than $10.00 per pay check for most people. By making this school less competitive, your house loses value. And if you try to argue that a no vote doesn't make this school less competitive or eliminate opportunity, you know nothing about education at a higher level and you are ignorant. There are schools that offer so many more programs that their top 50 percent of the class is better than graduating top 10 percent from Perkins. So what are we doing: Cutting more funds and voting no on a levy. Wow, that's genius, we are really going to stick it to Gunner or whomever... No you are sticking it to the children... Driving down Columbus Avenue and seeing the vote no signs over and over, it's just pathetic.

Hawkeye

So you are basically saying because there is no money the teachers will quit holding high standards and only become mediocre? At least you have a wonderful stadium to look at because that really furthered education and of course it created great opportunity for students. Imagine if the school put 3 million into the opportunities instead of the Stadium. I'm sure you think the no voters are responsible for that catastrophe too.

WeThePeople1965

Exactly. So until there's logic in budgeting, I'll continue to voice my seemingly popular opinion with the freedom I have.

WeThePeople1965

If these officials care about the kids, they should cut top-admin salaries and re-budget instead of cutting programs.

SanduskyGuardian

Stayfit, first off you just can't come on the blogs and tell us that something is just $10 per paycheck. Any references to money require a patronizing translation into a specific item, deemed by the levy supporters and being frivolous and unneeded. So instead of saying "Less than $10 per pay check" you say, "For just the cost of one mug of beer per week" or "For just the price of four packs of cigarettes per month". Ok, got that cleared up. The next thing is we are all aware that volunteering to raise our taxes will dramatically increase the performance of our schools, hence seriously elevate our home prices and thus create immense wealth for us. So for instance if we decided to listen to this reasoning we should not simply stop with raising taxes to buy a $100 million befountained school. Heck no, lets spend at least a quarter billion dollars on a new school. Fountains? No we have waterfalls, A Natatorium? No our school has its own airport, flight school, rock climbing wall and its own zipcode. If we just spend obscene amounts of money on schools everyone will want to move here so their kids can go to school here and it will be good for us. Double all the teachers paychecks, if they had been ones to go on strike way back when, add an extra $50 grand per year, hire a bunch more administrators as soon as they retire, add not only a communications director but a chief of propaganda (BH, you could use your real name now not TP), spend, spend, spend, because spending money we do not have will make us rich. People won't drive by and see vote no signs and think we don't care about our children, they will know that we love to spend, and we do not worry about how we will pay for anything, since, you know, it is all about if you love your kids or not.

Fordman

Gee, maybe Perkins should start charging for open enrollment and also stop bussing the students for free. Maybe then they would get the levy they so desire. Stiop taking the money out of their residents a$$'s

Justme...

They don't have the option of doing either of those things. Vote no all day long, but don't pass on false information.

Ralph J.

Shaner said that when one property is undervalued, other properties must pay the difference because of how levies are handled in the state. “If some properties are undervalued at the time a levy is passed, the millage rate set for the levy must be higher than necessary to raise the funds requested by the district,” Shaner told the senators. “This means property owners, whose real property is set at a fair value, will pay more than necessary.” “(The school boards) never come back and say the price is too high,” she said. “When the economy was good, they didn’t seem interested in the fair price. They were willing to collect the additional taxes from the increased values and didn’t challenge them.”

http://watchdog.org/91249/stakeh...

Ralph J.

Real property taxes are based on the true value of property. True value is the property’s
worth on the market, or market value

http://www.tax.ohio.gov/portals/...

ContraryAnn

So this story is all about levies?
No one noticed that Placeholder Damschroder lost?

Darwin's choice

Who cares?

ContraryAnn

A lot of people would have had a different attitude if the Placeholder had won it....

Other schools had levies, too. I guess Perkins and Sandusky think they are the only place on the map... unless they can attack Sandusky County officials...

Ralph J.

The present Erie MetroParks levy at 0.5 mills still had two years left before it would expire. That levy could have been renewed in two years under the old tax rollback rule. Under the rollback program, the state pays the first 10 percent of the tax bill for all property owners plus 2.5 percent for owner-occupied homes. The state will continue to pay the tab on existing levies and their renewals but will no longer subsidize new levies. Those who proposed the new park levy misled the voters and there was no big hurry to pass a new levy since the present one still had two years left before it would expire. Since there is no rollback, the new levy will cost more per $100,000 valuation. How could the voters be so gullible? Read the ballot and how it is worded.

http://www.electionsonthe.net/oh...

8ballinthesidepocket

Only a little over 2,000 people in Sandusky voted? What a disgrace!!