Birding groups oppose ‘six giant wind turbines’

After the two groups wrote to the Air National Guard to complain about a planned wind turbine at Camp Perry — and threatened a lawsuit — the guard put construction on hold and promised to carry out a new study.
Alex Green
Mar 7, 2014
Two birding groups that succeeded in halting a planned wind turbine at Camp Perry have turned their attention to the wind turbine at the nearby Lake Erie Business Park.

The American Bird Conservancy and the Black Swamp Bird Observatory have written to Dan Ashe, director of the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service in Washington, D.C., claiming “six giant wind turbines” are being built at the business park. The letter asks the service to look into the project and “take decisive action where appropriate”

After the two groups wrote to the Air National Guard to complain about a planned wind turbine at Camp Perry — and threatened a lawsuit — the guard put construction on hold and promised to carry out a new study.

The business park’s owner, James McKinney, defended the wind turbine as a green energy project and said the business park is doing its best to support the U.S. government’s efforts to turn away from fossil fuels and shift toward renewable sources of energy.    

The letter to Ashe, signed by Michael Hutchins, national coordinator for the Bird Smart Wind Energy Campaign, and Kimberly Kaufman, director of Black Swamp Bird Observatory, claims wind energy at Lake Erie Business Park threatens a major corridor for migrating birds.

“It is also adjacent to a wildlife refuge and has the highest density of bald eagles in the state of Ohio,” they wrote.

McKinney, founder and chairman of Dublin Commercial Property Services Inc. in Port Clinton, said the business park actually has just one wind turbine, a 900-kilowatt machine that’s been up for about two months.

“I don’t know where they get the other five” he said.

A map on the website that shows other wind turbines is an “illustration,” he said, and no other wind turbines are currently under construction.

“We complied with all of the rules and regulations set forth by the state of Ohio” McKinney said.

He had no comment when asked if an environmental impact study was carried out before the wind turbine was built.

McKinney said it’s important to pay attention to what actually goes on at and near his wind turbine.

“We are a heavy industrial site with heavy industrial activities all around the site” he said.

Nearby Camp Perry has gunfire going on much of the time, he said.

“Our goal has been to separate us from the typical manufacturing sites by offering green energy opportunities” he said.

The Obama administration supports green energy and so does U.S. Rep. Marcy Kaptur, D-Toledo, who has found funding for various renewal energy projects in northern Ohio, McKinney said.

Many of the groups fighting wind energy are funded by the petroleum industry, McKinney said.

Laury Parramore, a spokeswoman for the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service, could not immediately confirm Ashe had received the letter. As a general rule, the agency prefers to get involved in proposed wind energy projects before they have been built, she said.

If there were allegations bald eagles had been harmed by the turbine, the agency’s law enforcement officers would investigate, she said.

Comments

holysee

We have plenty of birds and not nearly enough wind power. Wind power is an important part of our energy future so why postpone it?
The birds wil learn to avoid these turbines.

fenderstrat52

I have been to numerous wind turbine sites all over the world, and can tell you that at the base of each one of them is a large pile of dead birds! *******************************NOT!

Contango

Re: "NOT!"

So why is a 30 yr. moratorium necessary?

"For wind power, US extends permit for eagle deaths":

http://news.yahoo.com/wind-power...

Licorice Schtick

We have plenty of energy, but Too Many People with too many bird brains, and not enough birds. Humans are responsible for the decimation, extermination and extinction of too many species. They're a plague.

Humans should stop wasting energy, stop exterminating God's creatures, and stop proliferating like rats.

Contango

Re: "They're a plague." "stop proliferating like rats."

YIKES!

So how do you foresee the unfolding of the "final solution" Mein Fuehrer?

Licorice Schtick

Godwin Lives!

swiss cheese kat

Many of the groups fighting the petroleum industry are funded by the solar and wind industry.

Stop It

Birds fly into high rise windows all the time. Do we take the windows out and replace them with brick?

red white and blue

We need less tree huggers in this world

Stop It

+1

holysee

doG doesn't like you sying that.

holysee

But really, the derogatory term of "tree hugger" can be used by conservatives to dismiss the bird lovers or the advocates of alternative energy choices. Which way of thinking are you dismissing today you ugly terrible stup!d repuglican conservative slimy thug name caller? Perhaps both?
?

Contango

In this sense, perhaps the term "birdie huggers" would be more apropos?

bayshore

Of course Marcy supports it, she supports anything where she can spend other people's money. She wouldn't be a true Democrat if she didn't.
Time to retire her and revoke her pension and perks.

coasterfan

At least Marcy makes sure that some of the federal tax dollars WE all pay goes back to projects in OUR area. When Republicans run the show, they typically vote down new projects and the federal grants (and our tax dollars) go instead to other states. The current Cincinnati streetcar project is an obvious example...

Contango

Re: "Cincinnati streetcar project,"

“'The frustration is that the other 51 neighborhoods in the city are suffering,' said Christopher Smitherman, a City Council member and former local president of the N.A.A.C.P. 'And these guys are talking about how they want a choo-choo train running through downtown.'”

So this guy is a Repub?

Aren't they still up to their eyeballs in debt over the two taxpayer financed stadiums?

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/12/2...

CONCERNED MOM

Agree with all, we need to save money and be more efficient, we have millions of birds, I love birds too but energy saving is more important, also birds lay tons of eggs, guess we need to also stop all air travel, airplanes, hot air balloons whatever up in the sky, just a bunch of BS to get in the news.

Really are you ...

Efficiency? How efficient is it if you generate your own power to power your own house? Not relying on the grid? Electrical generation produced within your house. No possibilities of birdie killings or air pollution. Zero near or long term environment harm and user friendly. One less bill to worry about. An all electric house would get rid of a gas bill more money in your pocket, one less bill to worry about. Something that would pay you back for selling electricity back to power companies when you are not running everything in your house. No power outages. Who is to say these six turbines will lower your electric bill? An Electric motor in your auto with this generator, no pollution, no need to recharge, and no need to stop at the gas station, one less thing to spend money on. Now that would be too efficient. That would be real a life changing deal. A downside on auto applications is the automobile would weigh less and have more storage space. And who would want to take this power producing out of an older auto and put it in a newer vehicle? Not very effecient?

Really are you ...

Rethink. Yes think about being self sufficient. Think about making electricity, technically you can't make electricity, for your own needs right where you need it. Think about doing this without combusting anything. Think about making electricity without the sun, wind, water, or anything nuclear. Think about a generator that is compact in size, yet produces a lot of power. Think about the possibilities. Yes rethink about building another turbine, solar panel, power plant... When people, nah just think.

thinkagain

Think again.

Contango

Wind turbines "Cuisinart" birds.

Solar plants incinerate birds.

Oil, nat-gas & coal generate CO2.

Collectively, it looks like the bunny, birdie and tree huggers want us all to freeze in the dark.

http://sploid.gizmodo.com/the-wo...

tzu4u

I am pro- wind power. But, to put wind turbines in the middle of the largest migratory route in the US is just not the way to go. Birding brings tens of millions of dollars to Ottawa County.It is just a terrible choice to try to do this right in the Magee Marsh area.

Put them in an area that is already industrialized. Along Cleveland's lakefront is a much better choice.

downthemiddle

Exactly

DGMutley

Good point!

Contango

Re: "Cleveland's lakefront"

Reads like a case of NIMBY.

And then transmission lines will need to built.

One of the major problems with wind & solar are that they're abundant in isolated areas.

JoeSchmoe84

tzu4u: But it is ok to have a nuclear plant there, right? Also, it's in an industrial park, how much more of an "industrialized area" would you like??

The Big Dog's back

Exactly!

Marie Jane

The Comedy of the Stupid!

China's, quick moving, un-scrubbed, coal polluted air makes up 10% of California's smog.

Keystone is dragging on while our government swoons over wind and soon Canada will make a smart move and make a deal with the rest of the world (and, we will forever be importing oil for our needs.)

We are wasting our natural gas to fire up un-natural wind (natural wind is not a 50-story machine composed of toxic chemicals built in China using our exported coal which comes back to this country in the form of smog).

Whether the wind blows or not, we will be sitting in the dark, no coal, no oil, no gas, no nuclear.........with those rotting 50-story wind machines sitting in our back yards because all the wind turbine manufacturers have gone bankrupt and there are no decommissioning funds available, reminding us that when the great greenwashing occurred, our common sense left.

We will have destroyed life sustaining mature forests and millions of years old mountain tops for a dependent and destructive machine with a 12 to 15 year life expectancy.

Wake up!

Time to call an end to the wind turbine agenda.

XXX

JoeSchmoe84

Your assertions concerning wind power are not based upon facts. You should really try to educate yourself instead of repeating non-facts that you were told.

coasterfan

It's been my observation over many years that a large number of birds die after flying into windows. Still more die at the hands of sport gun enthusiasts. And let's not forget the carnage every Thanksgiving, when millions of turkeys suddenly find that they're on the menu, not to mention countless chickens who become McNuggets 365 days a year.

Are the wind turbine naysayers also going to push for a ban on glass, guns, Thanksgiving and chicken entrees? If they truly do care about the birds, they should be against those things as well.

I like Tzu4u's idea. Let's build the wind turbines, and try to put them in locations where they will cause the least damage. Building them along the normal migratory path used by the birds is as dumb as building a nuclear plant on an earthquake fault line in California.

Wait, that happened, too, didn't it...

Contango

Re: "Thanksgiving," "McNuggets,"

Unless you're eaten wind turbine slaughtered fowl, those are absurd analogies.

Increased construction of wind and solar will also require the building of thousands of miles of new transmission lines.

"Tens of millions of flamingos, storks, pelicans and other migratory birds are being killed across the world when they fly into power lines, according to a new study. "

http://www.nbcnews.com/id/454435...

Oh the humanity!

coasterfan

Oh, the huge manatee!

Actually, you helped me make my point. Millions of boids are dying at the result of flying into power lines, but we don't hear anyone advocating the removal of power lines.

Contango

The Obama admin. has given 'em a 30 yr. pass to kill millions of 'em!

Point: The green energy central planners against the extremist liberal environmentalists - oh the sweet irony.

The Big Dog's back

Good thing no animals died from all the oil spills we've had. Oh wait .....

http://www.epa.gov/oem/docs/oil/...

Contango

Off-topic.

Do you need to go outside piddles?

Mary Kay Barton

Cars, cats & buildings do not typically kill eagles, condors, whooping cranes and bats - Industrial wind turbines (IWTs) do.

Furthermore, compared to the number of IWTs out there today (approximately 250,000 worldwide), there are BILLIONS of cars & buildings profitably owned and used by the 7+ Billion people in the world today -- and those BILLIONS of cars & buildings have actually greatly improved the quality of life of those BILLIONS of people. Likewise, the tens of millions of cats that populate the world today control rodents, which aids in controlling the spread of many diseases and crop damage worldwide.

On the other hand, the sprawling footprints (and the massive Habitat Fragmentation IWTs have caused) of the 250,000 industrial wind turbines in the world today provide NO meaningful product or service, as they have NOT closed a single conventional power plant, nor significantly reduced CO2 -- anywhere! (See: "Wind Turbines are Climate Change Scarecrows" by Robert Bryce)

red white and blue

First off to answer your first question HOLY^^^ IM ACTUALLY A DEMOCRATIC BUT RECENTLY (THE ELECTION OF THIS PRESIDENT) WOULD NOT ALLOW ME TO VOTE for a party that does NOT CARE about the well being of the American people and me be a Christian would not allow me to give our current leader my support!

ohioengineer

Most people are not aware that for the last 20 years, the wind industry has been supported by the Production Tax Credit. What this means is that for every KW-HR of electricity produced by wind power, every taxpayer and electric utility customer in the United States is charged 2.2 cents. For 2012 alone, this amounted to over $8 billion! Fortunately, this subsidy expired on Jan. 1 of this year, but every wind company, liberal politician, environmental group and the President is working overtime to get it restored. If wind power is half as efficient and cost effective as its proponents claim, then why do they insist upon making everyone else pay for their beliefs. (Note: while it is true that ALL energy sources are subsidized, the wind subsidy is from 20 to 50 times as large as that received by fossil fuels and nuclear!)

I am not usually a proponent of using Europe as an example to follow. But in this case, Europe jumped on the wind bandwagon earlier than we did, but now they are running away from it as fast as they can. The European landscape is dotted with abandoned and half-finished wind projects, as people and governments finally realized that they were just too expensive to be viable.

At some point in the future technology may allow wind to compete with other sources of energy on a equal footing. Great! When that day comes, I will be a staunch supporter; but that is not the case today.

swiss cheese kat

Many of the groups fighting the petroleum industry are funded by the solar and wind industry.

JoeSchmoe84

ohioengineer, I am just curious, do you work directly or indirectly for an electric utility?

The Big Dog's back

Wind energy isn't to see how big a profit we can make from it. It's about an alternative to destroying the earth with fossil fuels.

Mary Kay Barton

Mr. McKinney says: "Many of the groups fighting wind energy are funded by the petroleum industry." You are WRONG Mr. McKinney.

Mr. McKinney needs to get his facts straight -- Big Wind and AWEA are the ones being funded by petroleum industry (ie: BP, FPL, GE, EXXON, NextEra, E.On, Iberdrola, etc) Industrial wind still serves the same purpose it did when ENRON initiated wind in the U.S. - as a tax shelter generator for Big Energy Corporations.

The grassroots' groups that are fighting industrial wind installations across our nation (and the world, for that matter) are the taxpayers and ratepayers who have done their homework, and know that industrial wind is the biggest S-WIND-LE to ever come down the pike!

Learn more by reading: "Industrial Wind: The Great American S-WIND-LE - Not Clean; Not Green; Not Free" at:

http://citizenpowerallianceblog....

JoeSchmoe84

maybe later

Pterocarya frax...

Ms. Barton is another one that trolls all over the web to find stories to badmouth wind energy, without real facts. She is always pushing hydroelectric power, which I guess makes sense, since she lives fairly close to Niagara Falls. Would you like to debate the problems with hydroelectric production Ms. Barton?

Who pays your salary?

Mary Kay Barton

Seems more likely a person signing in under a fake name like "Pterocarya frax...", is much more likely to be a "troll." I am not anyone's payroll sir - what about you??? I simply despise being ripped off for an absolute scam. Anyone who has basic math and reading skills can figure out what a scam wind is for themselves.

The Big Dog's back

Bowling Green doesn't think they are being ripped off.

Jim Wiegand

"Many of the groups fighting wind energy are funded by the petroleum industry, McKinney said."...................

People should remember this "divide and conquer" statement because I happen to be one of the primary people fighting against this fraudulent industry. My years of research can PROVE that the wind industry is deliberately rigging their mortality studies to not find carcasses so they can under-report wind turbine fatalities. As a result over 90% of the bird and bat fatalities are not reported by this industry.

I have not been given a nickel nor have I been approached by anyone waving around money. I have not received any gifts, I have no political ambitions, and none of my children have been given high salaried jobs. I am just trying to save eagles and other species from being slaughtered off by this industry.

How could there ever be the proper siting of any wind project when rigged research is being used to win their approval? It can not be done. Yet these projects are being railroaded through the approval process all over the country with bogus documents and the opinions of shill experts. Under these circumstances "Rules and regulations" have no meaning.

I suggest that people not only remember this false "Oil industry" statement but they should also work hard towards handing out prison terms for the ringleaders is this monumental fraud.

The Big Dog's back

So jim, before windmills what caused Eagles to become near extinction? To say you don't have an agenda is somewhat fraudulent.

Jim Wiegand

"Many of the groups fighting wind energy are funded by the petroleum industry, McKinney said."...................

People should remember this "divide and conquer" statement because I happen to be one of the primary people fighting against this fraudulent industry. My years of research can PROVE that the wind industry is deliberately rigging their mortality studies to not find carcasses so they can under-report wind turbine fatalities. As a result over 90% of the bird and bat fatalities are not reported by this industry.

I have not been given a nickel nor have I been approached by anyone waving around money. I have not received any gifts, I have no political ambitions, and none of my children have been given high salaried jobs. I am just trying to save eagles and other species from being slaughtered off by this industry.

How could there ever be the proper siting of any wind project when rigged research is being used to win their approval? It can not be done. Yet these projects are being railroaded through the approval process all over the country with bogus documents and the opinions of shill experts. Under these circumstances "Rules and regulations" have no meaning.

I suggest that people not only remember this false "Oil industry" statement but they should also work hard towards handing out prison terms for the ringleaders is this monumental fraud.

JoeSchmoe84

That's very interesting, Jim Wiegand. What is your source for the "90%" under reporting?

Pterocarya frax...

Mr. Wiegand, you are all over the internet talking about the dangers of wind turbines to raptors, especially eagles. The average reader would probably tend to think of you as an "expert" because you quote so many facts about unreported eagle deaths. One would also like to think that your heart is in the right place because you care so much about the eagles.

A thinking questioning person though, may want to question your motivations just a bit. For example, where are you getting these statistics about raptor deaths being vastly under reported. You quote all kinds of enormous numbers but never give sources. You also attack the science of climate change without evidence, as well as attack anyone that dares question your comments.

If one thinks about it a bit, he or she may come to the conclusion that you have ulterior motives, other than "I love eagles". Listen, I care about the raptors a lot as well, but to take such a single minded approach to protecting them is not in the best interest of the eagles or humans. It may however be in the best interest of say...the coal industry.

Contango

FYI:

See Germany.

In their push for alt-energy, they now have the highest energy costs in Europe which is putting their manufacturing export economy in jeopardy.

http://www.ft.com/intl/cms/s/0/3...

U.S. wind and solar advocate extremists will put us in a similar position.

BabyMomma

I didn't care one bit until Bald Eagles were mentioned. As a kid I NEVER saw Eagles, now I see them almost on a daily basis. Move them away from the Eagles.

The Big Dog's back

And why did you never see eagles as a kid? One thing for sure, it wasn't those "horrible" windmills.

holysee

Meanwhile my uncle put a wind turbine at his marina and now sends electric bills to his camping tenants whilst getting his power at no cost. Doesn't work for him huh?

holysee

Why do moronic voters always vote against their own economic interests? Vote repuglican in 2014!

holysee

Chopped fowl is 100% natural and healthy

Nemesis

and tasty, too!

Can't wait until they start installing those underwater turbines GE is crowing about and they start chopping up fish, and we get to dig up those SNL commercials for the Bassomatic.