Community takes bullet to the heart

Fresno property owners unhappy with prices offered for land needed for high-speed rail project
Associated Press
Oct 21, 2013

 

Work begins on Calif. bullet train, locals angry
JULIET WILLIAMS, Associated Press

FRESNO, California (AP) — Trucks loaded with tomatoes, milk and almonds clog the two main highways that bisect California's farm heartland, carrying goods to millions along the Pacific Coast and beyond. This dusty stretch of land is the starting point for one of the most expensive U.S. public infrastructure projects: a $68 billion high-speed rail system that would span the state, linking the people of America's salad bowl to more jobs, opportunity and buyers.

Five years ago, California voters overwhelmingly approved the idea of bringing a bullet train to the most populous U.S. state. It would be America's first high-speed rail system, sold to the public as a way to improve access to good-paying jobs, cut pollution from smog-filled roadways and reduce time wasted sitting in traffic while providing an alternative to high fuel prices.

Now, engineering work has finally begun on the first 30-mile (48-kilometer) segment of track here in Fresno, a city of a half-million people with soaring unemployment and a withering downtown core littered with abandoned factories and shuttered stores.

Rail is meant to help Fresno, with construction jobs now and improved access to economic opportunity once the project is finished. But the region that could benefit most from the project is also where opposition to it has grown most fierce.

"I just wish it would go away, this high-speed rail. I just wish it would go away," says Gary Lanfranco, whose restaurant in downtown Fresno is slated to be demolished to make way for rerouted traffic.

Such sentiments can be heard throughout the Central Valley, where roads are dotted with signs such as: "HERE COMES HIGH SPEED RAIL There goes the farm." Growers complain of misplaced priorities, and residents wonder if their tax money is being squandered.

Aaron Fukuda, a civil engineer whose house in the dairy town of Hanford lies directly in one of the possible train routes, says: "People are worn out, tired, frustrated."

Voters in 2008 approved $10 billion in bonds to start construction on an 800-mile (1,300-kilometer) rail line to ferry passengers between San Francisco and Los Angeles in 2 hours and 40 minutes, compared with 6 hours by car now during good traffic. Since then, the housing market collapsed, multibillion-dollar budget deficits followed, and the price tag has fluctuated wildly — from $45 billion in 2008 to more than $100 billion in 2011 and, now, $68 billion.

Political and financial compromises led officials to scale back plans that now mean trains will be forced to slow down and share tracks in major cities, leading critics to question whether it will truly be the 220-mph (355-kph) "high-speed rail" voters were promised.

The high-speed rail business plan says trains will run between the greater Los Angeles area and the San Francisco Bay Area by 2029. But construction has been postponed repeatedly, and a court victory this summer by opponents threatens further delays; a Sacramento County Superior Court judge said the state rail authority's plan goes against the promise made to voters to identify all the funding for the first segment before starting construction.

Even the former chairman of the California High-Speed Rail Authority, Quentin Kopp, has turned against the current project, saying in court papers that it "is no longer a genuine high speed rail system."

In the Central Valley, there is intense distrust of the authority, which has started buying up property, land and businesses, some of which have been in families for generations.

At the dimly lit Cosmopolitan Cafe, office workers line up alongside farmers and paramedics to order sandwiches as waitresses expeditiously call out order numbers. Four decades' worth of memorabilia and yellowing newspaper restaurant reviews line the faux-wood walls in the space that Lanfranco has owned for most of his life.

Lanfranco says the sum he was offered to buy the property does not come close to replacing the space he owns, debt-free. The adjacent parking lot — a rare commodity — is packed with pickup trucks and cars each day at lunchtime. Lanfranco declined to say how much he was offered, and the offers are not public record.

"It's not like it's just a restaurant that I've owned for a couple of years and now I can just go replace it. It's something that I've put the last 45 years of my life into," the 66-year-old says.

His is just one of hundreds of properties the state needs to buy for the rail project or seize through eminent domain if they cannot reach a deal. Many owners are resentful after years of what they say have been confusing messages and misleading information.

Rail officials acknowledge that the agency hasn't always communicated with those most affected by the project, and part of their work in the Central Valley is strictly public relations.

"Frankly, it set us back, because we, in effect, created questions and even opposition by just failing to give people answers," says Jeff Morales, the authority's chief executive officer since 2012.

For supporters, high-speed rail is the solution to California's future transportation needs, when the state's already jammed, rutted highways and busy airports won't be enough for a population expected to hit 46 million by 2035.

It will create hundreds of good-paying jobs for several years as officials tear down buildings, draw engineering plans, survey wildlife and, eventually, lay track. It will also help move the Central Valley beyond the dominant low-wage agriculture sector, Morales says.

"By connecting Fresno, Bakersfield and the other cities of the Central Valley to Los Angeles and San Francisco ... it just creates more opportunities for people," he says. "It creates a whole different sort of economy that'll just raise the Central Valley."

Gov. Jerry Brown calls rail "cheaper than the alternative, and it's a hell of a lot better." The project also offers the 75-year-old Democrat a chance at a legacy. What is less certain is what the legacy will be, and whether high-speed rail will ever be what was once promised. Critics say the ridership projections are inflated and rely on low ticket prices that would require government subsidies, although the federal Government Accountability Office has called them reasonable.

The Obama administration promised $3.2 billion for the first phase as part of the federal stimulus package, but that is just a fraction of the money needed to complete the system, leaving many of the valley's 6.5 million residents to suspect California taxpayers will be on the hook for the rest. The state's independent analyst calls current funding plans "highly speculative."

Republicans in Congress have furiously fought to block any more federal funding as Republican governors in Ohio, Wisconsin and Florida have backed out of plans for high-speed rail in those states.

Fukuda is among the residents who are suing to try to block California's rail line. He and his wife had planned to build their dream house on their Hanford property. At first he planned to build sound barriers, but then he says he lost faith in the planners.

"I don't think it's a viable, well thought-out or ... financially feasible project for the state of California," he says.

It is rare to find someone in Hanford, a town of 55,000 people south of Fresno, who is not opposed to the project. Many landowners have been in financial limbo for years as the authority weighs different paths for the train, leaving farmers wary of planting crops or investing in new equipment in case their land ends up being gobbled up.

Officials, Fukuda says, "don't understand the emotional toll this has taken on the community."

 

Comments

Eph 2 8-10

Perhaps the SR should concentrate on posting local stories rather than those 2500 miles away that have no affect on the Sandusky area.

Contango

FYI: Rep. Kaptur and former Gov. Strickland among others wanted a similar expensive taxpayer financed boondoggle for OH.

The Bizness

Ahh yes, a boondoggle...

Rather than spending money for some temporary jobs from the XL pipeline, we could have added thousands of permanent jobs by creating high speed rail corridors across the Midwest. Oil obsessed conservatives decided that, that just wasn't a good idea so threw away those thousands of permanent jobs.

Imagine hopping on a train in Sandusky and getting to Cleveland or Toledo in 30 Minutes, Chicago in 2 hours, Driving to Mansfield and getting to Cincinnati in 1.5 Hours. Sounds horrible doesn't it? It would save you time, and money....Horrible, I know.

Contango

Re: "we could have added thousands of permanent jobs by creating high speed rail corridors across the Midwest."

Wishful thinking.

With the cost overruns and property rights disputes, it would end up being another boondoggle like Amtrak that is supported by taxpayer dollars to the tune of $1B annually.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amtrak

"XL pipeline"?

Though it increases costs, private industry has done an end run around govt. by transporting the oil sand production by rail.

For one, Pres. Obama's buddy, Warren Buffett profits from it not being built.

http://www.wealthwire.com/news/e...

The Bizness

Amtrak is a valuable service to many...far from a boondoggle

I do not know Warren Buffet nor care about Warren Buffet, so why even mention that? I solely want everyone to understand how horrid tar sands are on the environment. It uses a ton of energy just to extract the oil from the ground.

We need to move away from fossil fuels fast.

I should also add that I understand Amtrak runs on fossil fuels but taking cars off the road and moving people to transportation by rail would help move away from the use of fossil fuel.

Contango

Re: "Amtrak is a valuable service to many...far from a boondoggle"

It's a money pit and unprofitable.

It's essentially a govt. jobs program.

How many times have you used it?

YOU brought up XL, I just added some context.

The Bizness

I have used it twice(it was packed both times, and enjoyable.), and I have a trip planned this winter to use it.

Contango

Re: "I have used it twice,"

Happy for you.

However, it remains unprofitable and the service heavily taxpayer subsidized.

Trust me, I got my fill of trains riding the "L" for yrs. in Chicago.

It's unfortunate that there are those who want to destroy entire manufacturing industries like automotive & oil along with the hundreds of thousands of jobs that they provide for some central planning Statist boondoggle.

I mean, other than Democrat voters, what the h*ll did Pres. Obama “save” Detroit for?

If high-speed rail were a practical idea, private developers and venture capitalists would be in the forefront.

Dr. Information

Bizz, how can something that was touted as going to be profitable (Amtrack) that instantly turned out to be a tax payer subsidy not a complete government mess up?

The Bizness

I didn't know it was supposed to be profitable, rather just an alternative form of transportation for travel between major cities.

Contango

Re: "I didn't know it was supposed to be profitable,"

Never have the govt. build you a house. All plumbing fixtures would leak.

Licorice Schtick

"The General Motors streetcar conspiracy (also known as the Great American streetcar scandal) refers to allegations and convictions in relation to a program by General Motors (GM) and other companies who purchased and then dismantled streetcar and electric train systems in many American cities."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gre...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nat...

Contango

Re "The General Motors streetcar conspiracy?"

Which means WHAT in relation to the TOPIC?

Instead of merely posting a quote and links, doncha think that a little "personal" commentary 'might' be in order?

Peninsula Pundit

'If high-speed rail were a practical idea, private developers and venture capitalists would be in the forefront.'
Is that so?
How much private money was spent building the interstate highway system?

Contango

Re: "interstate highway system,"

You do know that it is patterned after the German Autobahn and was/is a Defense project right?

I thought the subject was mass transit and you confusingly wanna argue for more and better roads for use by private vehicles?

Licorice Schtick

Tell ya what - I'll most more "'personal' commentary" if you post less.

All in favor? ....

The Bizness

Aye

Contango

Licorice Schtick writes: "I'll most more 'personal' commentary'"

It's a deal, I'll "most" less, whatevertheh*ll that is. :)

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The Hero Zone

I respectfully disagree, Biz. While the idea seemed good, I am sure there are other ways to accomplish a similar service to people. I have never used it nor ever considered using this service, though I am only one of 310+ million people. Looking at the source itself:

http://www.amtrak.com/ccurl/345/...

Amtrak has outstanding debt of $1,400,000,000 and since its inception has always run a deficit. The charts show that that deficit has shrunk, but when is it good news that we are only losing ~$300,000,000 this year on this service?

I don't think that the many you reference are enough to justify a continuously-losing project. That money could be used toward something more efficient. Taking their own numbers, and let's say that every rider is unique (which we know isn't the case), that is ~30,000,000 riders per year. Why can't we raise the rates by $10/ticket to break even? Why can't we phase out this losing program into something similar but more efficient? Is it ok for 90% of the population who don't use this service (is it even a service? you still have to pay for a ticket) pay for it when there are many other options available?

I'm not advocating a blind slash-and-burn of things that are out there but I think that some honest discussion needs to take place to actually evaluate what is going on, what it costs, and if we can do better.

The Bizness

I agree with you that evaluation needs to be done, but I think that ridership would go up if speedier times, and better hours of boarding of arrival times were available.

In Sandusky boarding and arrival times are typically between 12 AM and 8AM so as to arrive in Chicago or New York in the day time.

Contango

Re: "speedier times, and better hours of boarding of arrival times were available."

Govt. efficiency? Oxymoron.

grumpy

"Amtrak is a valuable service to many...far from a boondoggle"

I have no clue what you consider a boondoggle to be but Amtrak sure looks like one compared to all other forms of transportation subsidized by the federal gov't.

Scroll down to the public funding

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amt...

"According to the DOT Bureau of Transportation Statistics, rail and mass transit are considerably more subsidized on a per passenger-mile basis by the federal government than other forms of transportation; the subsidy varies year to year, but exceeds $100 (in 2000 dollars) per thousand passenger-miles, compared to subsidies around $10 per thousand passenger-miles for aviation (with general aviation subsidized considerably more per passenger-mile than commercial aviation), subsidies around $4 per thousand passenger-miles for intercity buses, and automobiles being a small net contributor through the gas tax and other user fees rather than being subsidized.[124] On a total subsidy basis, aviation, with many more passenger-miles per year, is subsidized at a similar level to Amtrak. The analysis does not consider social costs and benefits, or difficult-to-quantify effects of some regulation, such as safety regulation."

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Social cost or benefit can't be given a number as many folks will have differing opinions, making such guesses immaterial in a logical discussion, unless you wish to sidetrack said discussion.

I could link to many more places that show how inefficient Amtrak is but you can search Amtrak boondoogle or cost over run and find them on your own.

The Bizness

I was purely going off the definition of boondoggle.

boon·dog·gle
ˈbo͞onˌdägəl,-ˌdôgəl/Submit
informal
noun
noun: boondoggle; plural noun: boondoggles
1.
work or activity that is wasteful or pointless but gives the appearance of having value.
"writing off the cold fusion phenomenon as a boondoggle best buried in literature"
a public project of questionable merit that typically involves political patronage and graft.
"they each drew $600,000 in the final months of the great boondoggle"
verb
verb: boondoggle; 3rd person present: boondoggles; past tense: boondoggled; past participle: boondoggled; gerund or present participle: boondoggling
1.
waste money or time on unnecessary or questionable projects.
Origin
1930s: of unknown origin.

I don't think it is a waste of time or money. That as always is my humble opinion, and you are free to disagree.

KnuckleDragger

LOL. So you apparently know nothing about the supposed "High-Speed Rail" boondoggle that Ohio put the kabosh to. We are not talking about a train that would make it from Cleveland to Toledo in 30 min. What was slated to be built here at the waste of billions of taxpayer dollars was a train that traveled at a blinding speed of 50 mph. After the initially outlay the citizens of this great state would have been on the hook for maintaining a train and rails that nobody was riding. Sounds alot like Amtrak huh? If this would have been a true high speed rail service it may have had more support, but it wasn't. Who in there right mind would pay to ride a train that takes longer to get from Cleveland to Cincinatti than it would to drive your own car?

The Bizness

I know the plan, and urbanites who didn't have cars would have used it, or people like me that didn't want to pay for gas or wear and tear on my car.

Contango

Re: "urbanites who didn't have cars would have used it, or people like me that didn't want to pay for gas or wear and tear on my car."

A minority.

Like I wrote before: A govt. "jobs" program.

Feel good collectivist nonsense with a price tag.

When Al Gore sells his daddy's Occidental Petroleum holdings and the Kennedys put their compound in Hyannis Port on the mkt. because of rising ocean levels, THEN maybe I'll consider their global warming and save the Earth BS.

As my late father-in-law used to say: The nerve that controls the body leads to the hip pocket.

2cents's picture
2cents

Ill get to Cleveland in 30 min longer, have a car to get around, not have to go through security too. Amtrak never flew, why would this fly? It is now faster to drive to Chicago than fly after 911, it is a 45 min flight, but check in, security and flight costs have made driving better. What do you do to get around when you get there? Rent a car!

Stop It

I care more about stuff like this than I do trains in Cali..

https://scontent-b-atl.xx.fbcdn....

Steamer84

Sad thing is we used to have an extensive rail passenger network. 20th Century Limited, the Super Chief's, Broadway Limited and many more!

OMG.LOL.WT_

I think the Pony Express was a gov't financed boondoggle. :) :)

grumpy

The gov't didn't finance the Pony Express. The Pony Express was a private endeavor.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pon...

The gov't contracted for service FROM the Pony Express.

Contango

And the "private" telegraph put 'em outa business.

It's a good thing that typewriter mfging wasn't dying during the Obama Admin. He woulda subsidized 'em. :)

2cents's picture
2cents

Beam me up Scotty : )

Contango

Re: "Beam me up"

Just make sure that the "Heisenburg Compensator" is functioning properly.

OMG.LOL.WT_

Gee, they did all that without even a gov't subsidy???? Wow, let's go back to those days.

FlyBoy86

We used to have a huge network running from Toledo, Detroit, and Cleveland. Look up Lakeshore Electric Railway.

grumpy

And when it was no longer economiclly viable... it closed. Much like the many horse whip makers, and those who made horse buggies, and many other companies that no longer have markets for their wares or services. Every town used to have a blacksmith, and many had barrel makers, I could go on about those that no longer have markets because of times changing the need for them.

Licorice Schtick

Electric rail and trolleys were NOT victims of markets. Only one conspiracy to shut them down in order to sell more cars, buses, trucks, tires and gas is well documented, but it was a big one. The antitrust case went all the way to the Supreme Court.

"...GM's own testimony had shown that by the mid-1950s, "its agents had canvassed more than 1,000 electric railways and that, of these, they had motorized 90%—more than 900 systems."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gre...

grumpy

Read also the subtitles from your wiki link entitled Other Factors and Myths and Mysteries.
Quote from those:

"Some of the specific cases which have been clarified over the years include:

According to Snell's testimony, the New York, New Haven and Hartford Railroad line in New York was profitable until it was acquired and converted to diesel trains.[n 18] In reality, the line had been in financial difficulty for years and had filed for bankruptcy in 1935.[31] Ironically, the rail company had itself been indicted in 1914 on a charge of "conspiracy to monopolize interstate commerce by acquiring the control of practically all the transportation facilities of New England".[32]
"GM killed the New York street cars".[n 18] In reality, the New York Railways Company had entered receivership in 1919,[33] 6 years before it was bought by the New York Railways Corporation with funding from GM and others.[citation needed]
"GM Killed the Red cars in Los Angeles".[n 18] In reality, Pacific Electric Railway (who operated the 'red cars') had been hemorrhaging routes as traffic congestion got much worse with growing prosperity and car ownership levels after the end of World War II, long before GM became involved in 1953.[n 19] A more compelling case, however, exists that GM's actions precipitated the demise of the Los Angeles Railway (or 'Yellow Cars') which served the central urban area.[34]
The Salt Lake city system is mentioned in the 1949 court papers. However, according to one source, the city's system was only purchased by National City Lines in 1944 at a time when all but one route had already been withdrawn, and the withdrawal of this last line had been approved three years earlier.[35] (In 1953, National City Lines became part of the Utah Transit Authority.)"

Licorice Schtick

Yes, the conspirators and their apologists claim that the public transportation entities they killed would have died anyway, but it's not really true and no defense anyway - no more than defending a murder because the victim was sick.

Businesses fail regularly but that does not invalidate their product category. Airlines and auto makers have been bankrupt, too, but that doesn't invalidate those modes of transportation.

grumpy

"Businesses fail regularly but that does not invalidate their product category. Airlines and auto makers have been bankrupt, too, but that doesn't invalidate those modes of transportation."

Because another company will buy their assets, make changes, and then make money. No one thought that those companies would ever make a profit again. If they had thought they would someone would have bought them up and kept them in business. A good, profitable business is a good profitable business If it isn't profitable business... it won't be continued... unless the gov't takes control and runs it into the ground while losing the taxpayers money that could be used for something that is needed, instead of holding onto something that is no longer viable. You can't stop change no matter how you hold onto the past, it won't stop progress... no matter how much money you throw away on trying to keep a hold on the past. Step into the present.

Contango

Re: "Airlines"

Reminds me:

From an investment stand point it's been said that if you subtracted all the expenses from it's beginnings until now, the airline industry as a whole has NEVER made a profit.

KURTje

The Bizness you know. Some here are just stubborn. You'll never get through 2M. Japan,France,Germany, etc, they know too. America needs rail travel now more than ever.

grumpy

In all those countries the rails run at a deficit and need their gov't to fund them. I think one high speed rail line in Japan actually breaks even... but that is the only one in the world that does so. Let their gov't pay for their boondoogles. If it costs the country extra to build, run and still loose money on them why bother loosing more money our gov't doesn't have in the first place? Normal for those who live with their hands out for gov't largesse... that the rest of us have to pay for.

Licorice Schtick

All transportation infrastructure costs, including the air and highway systems. Passenger rail at scale is an extremely efficient way to move people between points. If it was at the the scale it should be in the U.S, it would be more cost effective. Lack of adequate passenger rail disadvantages us relative to other industrialized countries.

grumpy

That would be true if those other countries rail systems made a profit, or even broke even... but they don't. The taxes can be used on things the countries need, rather than being used for the few who use the trains. Much like the New York Opera, the many who never go pay taxes to keep the elite who go happy. Same with the rail, why should the many pay for the few? Or more correctly why should the gov't borrow more money and pay interest on that debt for helping the few who would use it? Sorry I don't plan on using the railway in California. I don't see a need to pay for it. Let those who use it pay for it... that's right... the ticket prices will keep most from using it if the US gov't doesn't pay a subsidy for the few to use it. If you can't afford it don't expect others to pay for your mistakes.

2cents's picture
2cents

But look how small those countries are, maybe they call it the blink line!

Dr. Information

Well go ahead and round up the money and start building. Just don't ask for more tax dollars.

Licorice Schtick

Right. Like we did with highways and airports.

mikesee

This is way to funny! If I remember correctly this money is the same money Ohio turned down. Deserves those money grubbing liberals right. I hope it goes way over budget, it will, and the taxpayers of California have to pay boatloads of money for this losing proposition.

Licorice Schtick

Ohio didn't turn it down, Kasich did. He should have been recalled for that stupidity, along with selling prisons, and trying, but fortunately failing, to sell the turnpike.

Ed FitzGerald for Governor!

http://www.edfitzgeraldforohio.com/

mikesee

Yes, Kasich had the smarts to realize that this would be a waste of not only state taxes but federal taxes as well. Thankyou Gov Kasich for having the best interests of the taxpaying citizens of Ohio in mind.

Like Amtrak this is destined to be a losing, tax guzzling proposition that will never be self sufficient and we get to watch it unfold in California instead of here.

Btw, according to Stricklands own research you could drive from Cleveland to Columbus faster.

Contango

Re: "the price tag has fluctuated wildly — from $45 billion in 2008 to more than $100 billion in 2011 and, now, $68 billion."

Only 51% over budget (so far).

Pretty good for govt. math.

Just have "The Bernank" print off a few more rolls of bills and send 'em to CA for this green boondoggle.

Dr. Information

Just take a look at the most recent pork added to the ceiling debt deal that had to deal with the Ohio River project. Talk about going WAY over budget.