LETTER: Graduation loudmouths

This is an open letter to the noisy people who attended the SHS graduation ceremony June 6, 2010. At what point did you give yourselves permission to disrespect the principal's request to refrain from applauding and cheering until the ceremony was over?
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Jun 9, 2010

 

This is an open letter to the noisy people who attended the SHS graduation ceremony June 6, 2010. At what point did you give yourselves permission to disrespect the principal's request to refrain from applauding and cheering until the ceremony was over?

It clearly stated on the back of the tickets to not do so and the respectful people honored that condition. Do you have any idea how bad you made the others feel who got stone-cold silence when they walked to the podium, not because they didn't have someone to cheer for them but because we respected the request to hold the applause.

I can't speak for the others in attendance, but I think your purposes would be better served with two ceremonies in the future, one for those who can't control themselves and one for those who can.

The principal lost control when he failed to stop the ceremony and make it clear he wanted equal treatment for every one of those students who were in those seats. They deserved at least that much for all their hard work. What did he teach them by not doing so?

Norma Chambers

Huron

Comments

columbus avenue

Don't blame the principal!  If he spoke up then you would accuse him of being discriminatory or racist.

columbus avenue

PLUS, YOU could have stood up and told them to be quiet.  You are too late babe!

streak

Graduation was a prime example why many kids in Sandusky city Schools can't listen or behave, because the people who are raising them can't as well. I felt bad for some of the kids and embarrased to even be there at times.

NOmoreFREErides

What else would you expect from the "entitled" parents and there kids.  

starryeyes83

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Joker

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starryeyes83

all I asked if they  were dancing ,too/  What's wrong with that?

hancrack me up

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b.lauren09

you are so ignorant and stereotypical for that comment. just thought i would let you know.

starryeyes83

your comment tells me that you're  an ingrate and ingnorant, How typical

dorothy gale

It's no wonder there is such a thing as "racial profiling" and "stereotyping!"  When an entire group of people deliberately and willfully refuses to follow simple rules of decorum, what does that tell us?  Then if, God forbid, someone comments on the disrespectful, idiotic behavior, that person is labeled as racist.  Common, trifling, disrespectful behavior is NOT a legacy that a parent should be proud to pass on to a child.  How hard is it to just act right?  Or is it infringing on one's "culture" and "heritage" to ask them to obey the rules?

NOmoreFREErides

Exactly how hard is it to follow the rules and show respect for others. But god forbid if they were asked to leave white or black it would be the schools fault....and you know the race cards would come flying out if they were black. It doesn't stop there. Go to the grocery store around the first of the month or the movies on the weekend. you will see the "entitled" acting the same way disrespectful and letting their out of control kids run rampant. Is it really a stereotype if it is true?

b.lauren09

I was one of the people yelling loudly at the SHS graduation and I can say, as a graduate who graduated last year from shs and attended the year before, never has that rule been followed. Why mr.poggali still says it is beyond me. It takes 13 years to graduate, if I'm there to se a certain person, I am going to cheer for THAT person. I quieted down when the next name was called so that their name can be heard. So since you wanted to be so quiet then thank you for keeping quiet. You are no ones mother and if they wanted to yell, they did. Thank you for following the rule,oh well if no one else followed it. It really wasn't that serious. you had a program with everyone's name in it and you saw your person get their diploma. end of story. if you wanted to hear their name called so badly, say it to them at their grad party. Also for those making ignorant stereotypical comments @loathingwife and @hancrack me up really need to stop. Sandusky has a good school system and that was very rude how you speak of baby mamas and names like shaquanafalika or whatever you said. there are white girls who are in that school that are baby mamas also. just to let you know. go above the ignorance, well maybe you can't.

Sam

b.lauren09says, clearly, grammar, spelling and acting in a civil manner was not taught to you at any stage of your education.

FUSR

there are more serious things going on then loud mouths your disrespectful!  your calling the kettle black with your title

Norma J-C

The editorial staff makes the titles for any letters submitted, not the writer.

FUSR

it is not that serious as THE MAN GETTING BEAT TO DEATH and HEARING NOTHING ABOUT IT!!!! 

Bratti

Well, good for you b.lauren09, if you did actually quiet down when the next name is called.  That must NOT have been you screaming for the kid whose named was called before my son's because they didn't bother to shut up AT all.  So, on our video tape, you see my son get his diploma but you never hear his name because of the screams and catcalls.

 

Julie R.

Had the principal had any guts now he would have stopped it right away. If it continued after the first warning,  the guilty parties should have been made to leave.  If they refused the graduation should have been stopped and the cops should have been called.

dorothy gale

So just because people have been disrespectful in years past, it gives you a right to do the same?  And of course you don't know why the principal makes the same request for courtesy and respect year after year.  Not surprising.  He says the same thing year after year because he hopes people will actually be respectful and courteous!  Unfortunately, it appears as though there are some people who have huge chips on their shoulders and have their minds made up to disobey and disregard every rule laid before them.  One day that attitude will bite them in the butt and then they will blame some authority figure or even society in general for their misfortune.  To all those who participated in the disrespect and to those who support the juvenile behavior, GROW UP!  Be quiet until the end means just that --- be quiet until the end!

Katelih-Trailer...

 I say we shoot and kill all loud, obnoxious, disrespectful people.

NOmoreFREErides

The feeling of "entitlement" isn't it grand!

Cross

We have Iranians closing in on the bomb.

Oil filling the basin of the Gulf of Mexico.

Debt up to our ears from decades of irresponsible government spending.

An economy in tatters due to bubbles and corruption en masse....

and someone posts in an irate fashion due to some overzealous family lightly cheering a great achievement in their kids lives?

This is like having a one hundred car pile up, and being mad ones overhead light suddenly doesn't work. Wake up and prioritize! Manners are nice, but this is not a faux pas and is accepted. Lighten up, cheer these wonderful kids and their achievement, and save your anger for the things I've listed above!

Natti Light

People have been acting like idiots at graduation ceremonies since they started having graduation ceremonies.  It's not about white vs black, and it's certainly not limited to Sandusky.  Any time you have a large gathering of people, you will have your fill of trash and idiots in the audience who have no idea how to conduct themselves at a "classy" event.  If this angers you enough that you feel compelled to write a letter to the newspaper, you should seek some therapy.  Let it go and move on.

Commenter

If it angers the writer enough to write a letter, GOOD JOB is what I say.  Many people think it, most people won't write it.  I agree wholeheartedly with the writer and it is not limited to SHS. It's not fair to those around you sitting, it's not fair to the next person's name to be read, it's just unclassy.  Needs Therapy?  Come on Natti Light, just because you will have your fill of trash and idiots does NOT make it right.  As long as people accept the behavior, the behavior will continue.

 

 

all is well

From all accounts, it appears that it was more than one overly zealous family and more than some were creating a disturbance that affected everyone else in the room.

One does not need therapy just because someone else doesn't like what is said.

Voicing an opinion does not equate to anger. Civilization will not survive unless, and until, we choose to be civil, respectful and courteous to others. The lack of it starts wars.

starryeyes83

MY last post was to  b. lauren 09

momofmany

Really people  can't clap to show their child how proud they are ..WOW ...My family and children have great manners, but I see nothing wrong with it claaping as your child receives his/her award....This is really sad

Speakezy

The principal doesn't have big enough stones to stop and tell people to shup up or leave??? Come on!

starryeyes83

Clapping  IS one thing,   hollering and  acting like morons is something entirely different.   OR   did you not read where  she said they couldn't  hear  the names of the other graduates.      It's called RESPECT!!     It's  ALL  of the  graduates'  time to shine -- NOT just a few!!

 

 

Next time be more respectful, if you  all can manage it.

 

 

blunt187

 Maybe they shouldn't make rules they can't enforce. You only graduate high school once...Have some FUN!!!  Everything doesn't need to be lame and bland.

all is well

Ceremony: A formal act or set of acts performed as prescribed by ritual, custom, or ETTIQUETTE and strict observance of formalities or ETTIQUETTE. To insist on or behave with formality. Last I knew, they aren't called graduation pep rallies! This is just another example of the 'me first and to heck with everyone else" culture that is so prevelant in today's society. It's a classic case of pushing the boundaries to see who complains. Then when no one does, the next time they go further. Many people had their moments ruined because of extremely selfish and insensitive attitudes. The event was hijacked into a 'who could make the most noise' circus!

Common Sense

For those who wish to celebrate the graduation of their honored ones, please attend a reception or party in their honor. All of the students and their loved ones have waited 13 years or more for this momentous occasion and it is only respectful to honor the desires of the school system that has led them through, at least a part, of this journey.

It is also disrespectful to talk through the entire ceremony. We sat through our daughter's graduation with a junior high teacher and his parents directly behind us. The comments and mockery of the students was rude. Unfortunately, I have to work with this person and he becomes very vocal when agitated. Needless to say, our "special moment" for that day contains quite a bit of nonsense chatter from them.

Taxpayer

Hey, let's FORCE the people to PAY more in taxes so we can hire 50 more officers.  Even when the PEOPLE of the city are broke, MAKE THEM PAY!!  Yeah, that will work.  That will definitely stop all the catcalling going on at graduations.  That will definitely change BEHAVIOR from typical inconsiderate people.  You know, all that HOPE and CHANGE.  Ha! Ha!  Once again, you liberal crybabies actually BELIEVE that hiring more police will put an END to CRIME.  If that were the premise then you would have an unanimous VOTE for APPROVAL of a levy.  I guess the MAJORITY of the PEOPLE do not fall for the usual liberal rant and the premise that SPEND MORE FOR MORE POLICE = NO MORE CRIME.  Ha! Ha! 

all is well

Taxpayer, what do your comments have to do with this topic? The desire to be respectful comes from within and is a conscience choice. You make noises to carry out  your personal agenda, yet you never offer any positive suggestions. Please stay on topic and don't call names. Have a nice day.

concernedsubject

Re: Taxpayer

You give the same rant in every single post which doesn't even relate to any topics

No one is saying a tax increase just replace the officers that have recently retired... where do you rants come from because you are way off topic and when you do that I don't think many people listen.

jpear

People need to behave in these places.  Its such a nice day for the students to have it ruined by loudmouths. 

hancrack me up

 Like Arsenio Hall once said..."It's a black thang". If I were to go to the Afro Ball & cause a disturbance...heaven forbid!!! 

outsider

 Taxpayer, I understand your sarcasm. 

hancrack me up

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Speakezy

Hancrack is right! No one will stop the blacks from acting like a fool because it will be turned into a racist issue. Just like no one will stop the little animals from peeing on the Knotty Pine Bar building on Hancock street.

What the hell is wrong with people, they don't even know right from wrong!

Just Saying

Maybe, just maybe - the reason the Principal asks the audience to hold their applause and glee until the end for all students is to help keep the ceremony from dragging on and on and on -- not that he just wants to be a party pooper and a Nazi rule maker !  I attended this year's Perkins High School graduation ceremony, and that was the very reason given by the Principal when he asked the audience to hold their applause until the end. There were a few short whoops and hollars, but nothing disrespectful.  The ceremony lasted an hour and 10 minutes, which was great  since we had pictures to take and parties to go to afterwards.  My congratulations to Mr. Gasteier for a very pleasant ceremony !

 

 

judgejudy

 If you think high school graduation is disrespectful, just wait till you see college graduation!! Same exact thing, but more graduates which makes for a much longer ceremony. And the Dean asked several times to please refrain, but they continued to do it. They do the doctoral and master degrees first, and the majority of that time, it is quiet and dignified. But once they get to the undergrads, the ruckus begins!

outsider

 Here's the reason for the ruckus. Most of these families won't have their kids go on to college. They don't understand a high school degree is just about worthless in today's day and age. They don't understand the schools have dummy-downed the requirement to graduate. In fact the child might be the only member of the family to graduate from high school. Everyone needs to lighten up. Let them be disrespectful to everyone else. Someone needs to flip hamburgers at a burger joint. Might as well be their kids. 

all is well

Lighten up- schmiten up! Just send the diplomas by registered mail and be done with the ceremony.

hancrack me up

 Rude & obnoxious. Get used to it because with every generation they get more loud & obnoxious, screaming & caterwauling like animals.  

streak

RE: Just saying

Good Job Mr. Gastier, because we know that Perkins parents and Sandusky parents are one of a kind.

Just Saying

Re: Streak

You are right, unfortunately.  Although Perkins is not as "perfect" as some Perkins parents think. Honestly though after reading this letter, my first thought was that I doubt these kids whose parents/friends were cheering so rudely, will ever graduate from anywhere again.  They'll probably be following in their parents footsteps working for minimum wage for the rest of their lives and on welfare- hope I'm wrong, but bet  I'm not for the majority.

Minuteman

Take a look around at those undisciplined and without a clue. These are the people you will depend on the serve up fries and stand around at Walmart. Someone has to watch the Jerry springer show and attend the fly-by-night vocational schools. Let them have their fun.

firelands_ariel

lmfao why is someone from Huron going to Sandusky's graduation anyway? Just asking... and of course all of you are gonna say that it's blacks but all other races yell for their students too. God get over it or go jump off a cliff. That'd be such a wonderful day for Sandusky, if all the ignorant people (aka the frequent commenters on Sandusky Register's website.. most of whom don't even live in Sandusky) would just shut the &*&(& up and crawl in a hole. B.Lauren09 is a actually a good friend of mine, and I can tell you she is a very intelligent and educated young lady who *gasp* attends college. Hmm, but I guess all of you expected us to get a diploma and go live off welfare. No wonder Sandusky doesn't have anything in it. Who wants to live around these type of people? Assuming that any of you idiots even live here. Norwalk Reflector sounds more up your alley. Racist, racist, ohso racist.

all is well

To firelands; the obvious answer to your question about someone from Huron going to a Sandusky graduation ceremony is quite simple. She was invited and had a ticket if you read the article. I would imagine there were people from Sandusky who attended Huron's graduation ceremony for the same reason.

Also, the last time that I checked, one's location had nothing to do with their ability to comment on stories in the paper and it most certainly has nothing to do with skin color. I think the only requirement for that is one must have a computer.

Do you call people idiots, racists and ignorant to their faces or just on here? Just asking.

 

Minuteman

Ariel,

That's a perfect example of what lack of discipline reaps. Blaming it on racism doesn't make it right, nor does it fix the problem. Notice you brought up skin color and then used it as justification for undisciplined behavior. That excuse won't hold water and most people aren't buying it anymore. Color has nothing to do with it. Neither does name calling, it won't get people off the subject. Discipline is linked with success, and the opposite is also true.

Some say it's just a graduation ceremony, it's not a case of life or death. But it sure is, when we lower our standards, everything else follows suit. Look at our public education over the last 30 years as proof. We pass along lowered standards to our kids, who in turn, want lower standards. It's easier and less work that way, but our quality of life is dependent on high standards. That's how we got here. We can go back to being uncivilized very easily, just keep allowing a lower standard of behavior. It has nothing to do with skin color, it's human nature.

hancrack me up

 Yep, firelands_ariel, I'm racist alright- racist toward loudmouths, outspoken thugs with attitudes that defy authority, can't speak English, lazy hypochondriacs who drive brand new vehicles & park them in handicapped spaces at the store so they can get to their free high dollar food & candy quicker (which my tax dollar is paying for), screaming & hollering diva wannabes & ones that also teach their offspring how to also defy authority & act like animals. Yes,  I'm racist & "unhip" for being disgusted by & not agreeing with this soo trendy lifestyle.   

firelands_ariel

To hancrack, well aduh. I knew that one. But seriously, when are you going to get a life outside the internet? I'm like really excited for you. It's like you're having a baby!!

& Joyful one, yes of course! All the time, when it's called for. What am I supposed to be scared to call someone ignorant, an idiot, or racist? Because I'm definitely not. It's like my favorite thing to do! I love it! But I guess you asking me if I do that in public should just tell me that you don't voice your opinion in public. It's really cool when you're able to hide behind a computer screen.

& To Minuteman, thanks for being respectful in your comments, but I obviously have a differing opinion.

Buuuut, anyway. None of this crap is worth my time. Obviously, with the except of some people on here, you all need a reality check and need to get a life. Who spends all their time on Sandusky Register's website just commenting on story after story being bitter? Pathetic!!

all is well

Of course, firelands, I voice my opinion in public. I just don't resort to name-calling and I am respectful of others, which you are not. You're behind the computer screen just like everyone else, so what's your beef?

As for the article, respect went out the window, which, I presume, was the point of the letter. Have a nice life.

daphne40

Wow...another straight by the book, self-righteous, non-conforming, i follow every law and rule ever written, individual. I have attended many graduations and the requests is always the same, please "refrain your applause" yaddy yada ya. Please excuse the excitement of family members, friends, and others who get excited over seeing their loved ones walk across that stage and on towards the next stage of life known as adulthood.  You may not understand the emotions involved from those same individuals. You chose not to applaud. Don't forget about the fog horn blown!!! Great way of getting around the rules with that one! It sickens me when people get so hypocritical regarding something as exciting as a high school graduation. Of all the things to discuss and write about! I guess I can go back to my first statement, this individual has never broken a rule in her life. There were people from different races who chose to express their joy and excitement! There were people from different races who chose not to applaud and/or scream. As far as the racists comments; the minds of simple minded folk never ceases to amaze me. Makes you wonder if they even received their high school diploma!?

Norma J-C

so what you're saying daphne40 is attack the author and justify the behavior because you feel like 'breaking the rules'. Sounds like more disrespect to me. Let's at least have your real name before you judge.

hancrack me up

 Obnoxious loudmouths who can't wait 20 minutes to cut loose should be made to wait outdoors. The ceremony should be halted & everyone else in the stands should be instructed to "boo" at those making the racket. "My kid be graduatin' so I be screamin my head off, who cares if yo kids name don't get heard after my kid". Too bad the adults have to act like 4 year old ghetto babies. I'd like to blast a couple air horns at them.

Keristrasza

Waiting until the end so that all of the applause is together is a much better idea, period. Some people may not have anyone there to cheer for them. Maybe one or more of the people they wanted to have there could not make it. Some people may cheer louder than others, due to their health or age or other things. Some may shout out different things that seem "better" than what the previous students' cheers consisted of. Why not make the experience equally fulfilling for all? If everyone cheers together at the end, then it can be like every student receiving the same degree of cheer. And every student, regardless of how he is really feeling that day, may be able to be swept up in that moment of cheer. I wouldn't expect some kid who just graduated (b.lauren09) to think about things like this before posting their comment. B.lauren09 said "if you wanted to hear their name called so badly, say it to them at their grad party". This is a very ignorant statement and also a bit on the irrelevant side. Rather, i would say, if you wanted to give special attention to THAT person you were there for, you can do THAT at their grad party or on your social network site (Myspace, Facebook, whatever), or elsewhere. That way, you are not doing it in a way that is infringing on others' enjoyment of the graduation ceremony. People who take b.lauren09's position on the matter caused (comment poster) Bratti's home video of their child's one and only high school graduation to be ruined, since they could not even hear their own name called. I am sure the event was ruined for others in more ways than this (which i can elaborate on, if anyone pushes), but I think I've made the point already.

 

Norma J-C

Well said, Keristrasza and I would love to hear more logical examples. I attended the event thinking that it would be a dignified ceremony. Had I known it was not going to be thus, I would have stayed home. My choice was taken away without my being asked.

hancrack me up

 Thugs have no dignity. Everything they attend gets turned into a noisy, tasteless circus(like outside the SinTHUGski Municipal Courtroom on a Monday morning at 7:50am).

Raoul Duke

You know it's not fair to keep saying that people are acting like animals. Animals for one thing don't know any better, therefore don't do crazy or stupid things on purpose. Plus, animals aren't greedy, lazy, or spiteful. It's a horrible analogy.

my2boys

Reeeeaaaalllly people????????????????????????????? I have just waisted my time for the last twenty minutes reading all this stuff! I happen to be a Amherst Comet Mom, and occasionally browse the Sandusky Register (my parents live out there).

I can understand almost all of the arguments posted here....however, I'm almost 40 years old, and I have NEVER SEEN A QUIET GRADUATION! If you have 25 kids in your graduating class...okay then, maybe. But our son graduated with almost 400 in his graduating class, and everyone was a hootin' and a hollerin'! That was part of the fun for everyone. Hell! we have so many people attend our graduations, that we need to go to Cleveland State University for our day. And by the way, we were done in 1 1/2 hours! 

The problem that the most of you refuse to see, is that people who have been raised in a different generation, are mortified by the lack of respect that most people have today. You see, there was a time when society was a much better place. And quite frankly, THEY (the older generation, or people who were raised by these generations), are mortified with the lack of respect, morals, and ethics our society has today. And honestly...they're right! It doesn't matter what freaking color you are for crying out loud! They're simply miffed that you can't follow directions!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

However, in closing...I do feel that this was not a good place or time, for family's and kids to "refrain" from excitement. I wish you all better luck next year.

hancrack me up

 All the parents & other relatives are doing is showing how classless, redneck, thuggy & belligerent they are. Those are the same type of hogs you see in the store with Kool Aid faced crack babies running around screaming & tearing things up while the baby mama's on her phone about when "baby daddy #8" will be home from prison. And to Amherst lady, it's not fun listening to the spew of ignorance from the stands. If the principal says shut up then sit silently for 20 MINUTES! (Oh, wait, I guess when you're that obnoxious that's impossible). I'm glad I wasn't brought up in a household where it's cute to be a loudmouthed, authority defying monster. If I wanted to see & hear your kind I'd watch reruns of the Jerry Springer Show.  

Norma J-C

Ditto what hancrack said!

bobaluey

I'll second that  "ditto"!!

Sharpie81

There would be no walk across the stage.  Have the ceremony, the speakers, etc and then have everyone stand up and pronounce them graduates.  Problem eliminated.  Who really cares about high school graduation anymore?

TheRandomOne

When I first read this article, I just had to laugh.

 

I graduated in 2008 and, of course, the principal made the same request to everyone. And, some people ignored the request and were loud. Sitting on the field during the graduation (This was an outside graduation, btw) the person next to me was measuring how many people cared about the person on stage by how many cheers the person got. Sad, really.

 

Anyway,  What i'm trying to say is that not everyone's gonna follow the rules. Some are more respectful than others. Then again, we can hoot and holler all we want about obnoxious people, but it won't stop anyone. Some people just need more time to grow up than others.