Martin testimony wraps up

Conflicting accounts highlight trial so far
Associated Press
Jun 30, 2013

The first week of George Zimmerman's second-degree murder trial wrapped up with testimony from two neighbors and a police officer that seemed to bolster the defense's argument that he was pinned on his back by Trayvon Martin before shooting the teen.

Neighbor Jonathan Good testified Friday that it appeared the unarmed teen was straddling the neighborhood watch volunteer, while another neighbor, Jonathan Manalo, said Zimmerman seemed credible when he said just after the fight that he shot Martin in self-defense. Officer Tim Smith testified that Zimmerman's back side was covered in grass and wetter than his front side.

All three were called as witnesses for prosecutors who are trying to convict him of second-degree murder.

Good, who had perhaps the best view of any witness, said he did not see anyone's head being slammed into the concrete sidewalk, as Zimmerman claims Martin did to him. Good initially testified that it appeared "there were strikes being thrown, punches being thrown," but during detailed questioning he said he saw only "downward" arm movements being made.

Zimmerman has claimed that he fatally shot 17-year-old Martin in February 2012 in self-defense as the Miami-area teen was banging his head into the concrete sidewalk behind the townhomes in a gated community.

Under prosecution questioning, Good said he never saw anyone being attacked that way. Good said he heard a noise behind his townhome and he saw what looked like a tussle when he stepped out onto his patio. He said he yelled: "What's going on? Stop it."

Good testified he saw a person in black clothing on top of another person with "white or red" clothing. He said he couldn't see faces but it looked like the person on the bottom had lighter skin. Martin was black and was wearing a dark hoodie. Zimmerman identifies as Hispanic and was wearing a red jacket. Good was back inside calling 911 when he heard a gunshot.

"It looked like there were strikes being thrown, punches being thrown," Good said.

Later, under cross-examination, he said that it looked like the person on top was straddling the person on bottom in a mixed-martial arts move known as "ground and pound." When defense attorney Mark O'Mara asked him if the person on top was Martin, Good said, "Correct, that's what it looked like." Good also said the person on the bottom yelled for help.

Zimmerman, 29, could get life in prison if convicted of second-degree murder. Zimmerman followed Martin in his truck and called a police dispatch number before he and the teen got into a fight.

Zimmerman has denied the confrontation had anything to do with race, as Martin's family and their supporters have claimed.

Manalo, whose wife had testified earlier in the week, was the first neighbor to step outside and see what happened with his flashlight after he heard a gunshot. He took cellphone photos of a bloodied Zimmerman and Martin's body, and those photos were shown to jurors on Friday. Manalo also described Martin's hands as being under his body.

Manalo said Zimmerman didn't appear shocked and acted calmly. After police officers arrived and handcuffed Zimmerman, the neighborhood watch volunteer asked Manalo to call his wife and tell her what happened.

Manalo started to tell Zimmerman's wife that her husband had been involved in a shooting and was being questioned by police when "he cut me off and said, 'Just tell her I shot someone,'" Manalo said.

Under cross-examination, Manalo said when he asked Zimmerman what happened, the neighborhood watch volunteer told him, "I was defending myself and I shot him."

"From what you could tell at that moment, that seemed completely true?" asked defense attorney Don West.

"Yes," Manalo said.

Smith, the police officer, testified that when he saw Zimmerman after the shooting, the neighborhood watch volunteer's backside was covered in grass and wetter than his front side, bolstering defense attorneys' contention that Martin was on top of Zimmerman.

As he walked to the squad car after he had been handcuffed, Zimmerman told the officer that "he was yelling for help and nobody would come help him," Smith said.

"It was almost a defeated ... a confused look on his face," Smith said.

Smith said Zimmerman described himself as "lightheaded" during the drive to Sanford Police Station but declined an offer to take him to a hospital.

The physician's assistant who treated Zimmerman the next day said that Zimmerman complained of feeling nauseated upon reflecting what had happened. But Lindzee Folgate attributed that to psychological factors rather than any physical condition. She also said it appeared his nose was broken, but it was impossible to say for sure since no X-rays were taken. She recommended he see an ear-and-nose doctor and a psychologist.

When O'Mara asked if abrasions on his head were consistent with someone who had his had slammed into concrete, Folgate said, "it could be consistent, yes."

She also testified that Zimmerman had written on a form reciting his medical history that he was exercising three times a week by doing mixed martial arts, a statement that prosecutor Bernie de la Rionda asked her to repeat.

Paramedic Stacy Livingston, who responded to the shooting scene, testified Zimmerman had a swollen, bleeding nose and two cuts on the back of his head an inch long. When O'Mara asked if Zimmerman should have been concerned with his medical well-being because of his injuries, Livingston said, "Possibly."

When photos of Martin's body were shown on a courtroom projector during Livingston's testimony, Martin's mother, Sybrina Fulton, looked away and blinked back tears.


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The Big Dog's back

Well, all thoughts of it not being racially motivated were thrown out the window when zimmerman called Trayvon an effing coon on the 911 tape.


Martin's friend testified that Martin referred to Zimmerman as a "Cracker" among other negative and racial word choices.

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See my post below.


You know I have heard that tape so many times, I can almost repeat it word for word and do not remember hearing anywhere on it where Zimmerman called him a effing coon, also, Trayvon supposedly told his friend Rachel that their was a "N" following him. Sooooooo, take it as you will.


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When you're done watching his youtube video....check out the link to CNN's Wolf Blitzer where they have a special agent analyze the tape and cleared Zimmerman, he said F###ing Cold. Nice try buddy.


Just had to post one more comment. Boooo yahhhhhh!!! Quit making stuff up my friend

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Not making anything up. And I'm not your friend.


At least not now, huh buddy

The Brownie Elf

Not looking good for the prosecution. I'm glad I'm not a business owner in southern Florida. They may be hurricane proof but not fire and loot proof.


I don't believe there will be any civil unrest if he is acquitted. I also don't believe he will be acquitted. I just don't think you can claim self defense if you start the fight. If he had just let the cops handle it we would not be here.


Had he let the police handle it, the results would have been different. However, he broke no law by following the suspicious teenager. The two became entangled in a tussle (Jonathon Good, witness testimony) and Martin ground and pounded Zimmerman (J. Good, witness testimony of what it looked like). Zimmerman claims that his head was being slammed into concrete and that he was calling for help and a police witness said that Zimmerman's shirt was more wet in the back, then front, which indicates that he was on bottom.

If Martin re-approached Zimmerman, Zimmerman had every right to pull that trigger. Your head can only take so many hits to the pavement and there is no telling what Martin, a troubled-teen would have done.

Martin was far from the portrait of the All-American boy the media painted him out to be. From the evidence presented so far, I believe Zimmerman will be found innocent, but there could be a lot more to come.

The real question is did Martin back away when Zimmerman pointed a gun at him? Or was it a quick pull for Zimmerman in self-defense (it was dark).


What was suspicious about him. He broke no laws either. It is not illegal to walk while black. Trayvon did not have to behave like a scared little boy. He felt as though he was being pursued. He asked Zimmerman "why are you following me?". It is not logical to me that I would be screaming for help if I have a gun. Martin was an all American boy. No, he was not a choir boy but he was far from being a thug. The real question is did Martin have to cower in fear even though he was not trespassing or breaking any laws. Did he have the right to defend himself after being approached? Was it logical for him to assume he may be in danger? If you are minding your business and I approach you in what you believe to be threatening and you punch me in the nose, I don't get to kill you because you are kicking my butt. I should have left you alone.


The neighborhood watchman would have a good idea of who he has seen come in or out of the neighborhood. What made Martin suspicious was that he was young and the man had never seen him before and he was walking alone late at night. If he was profiled for being black, only Zimmerman knows, but he was suspicious due to their being robberies in the neighborhood and Zimmerman did not recognize him and it was dark.

Martin felt threatened and ran and Zimmerman saw it is as an act of guilt (understandable from both sides).

The beat-down and concrete head slamming is not a routine fight. Zimmerman cried for help.

Your head can only take so many bangs to concrete and fists.

He pulled the trigger in self-defense and regardless of what Zimmerman did right or wrong before the death, he did not commit a crime by choosing to follow Martin.

"A punch in the nose." Martin could have killed him and Zimmerman had to get stitches in various parts of his head. It was not a normal brawl.


My thoughts exactly deer tracker!....Zimmerman was TOLD by police to NOT pursue Martin, yet he did so, even after verbally stating to police dispatchers that he understood that and would NOT for it...Zimmerman was looking for trouble and that's what he found!!....Yes, MAYBE Trayvon was on top of Zimmerman throwing punches, but I have it in me to believe that if that is the case, Trayvon was DEFENDING himself from this man on a mission, aka George Zimmerman!!


Zimmerman had no mission to kill Trayvon Martin or he would have prior to the assault.

This was act of desperation. If you your head were banged into concrete with pummeling fists in your face, you would feel helpless, too. Zimmerman did what he had to do. The jury will decide his fate, but I hope it is unbiased men and women making that decision.

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That's how I would've done it


To Big Dogs Back, was it alright if Trayvon call Zimmerman a White Cracker? You know and I know that this name stuff goes on all the time and probably will never end. So let's just call it what it was a argument that got out of hand and someone got killed because of it.
If he truly was running to his dad's house like he told his friend Rachel then he would have gone inside and nothing would have happened, but he chose to turn and confront. So, who was the aggressor Martin or Zimmerman?

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He was talking to Rachel about the cracker thing not zim. Sounds like you and many others want to forget about the 1st part of this. zim stalked Trayvon, fact. zim was told by 911 dispatcher not to stalk Trayvon, fact. zim was told by the HOA not to confront people, fact.


There were robberies in the neighborhood prior and Zimmerman worried that he was getting away. He was following to give location until police got there. Just because a dispatcher says "we don't need you do to that, does not mean Zimmerman had to listen." It was not a direct order.

Zimmerman was doing the best he could to protect his community and he was harshly beaten for doing so and was in fear of his life.

The 12-year-old All-American pictures that scream wrongdoing in the media are the reason this case is national stage. The fact was Martin was a 17-year-old, violent, troubled teen involved that was in his peak years of fitness and was even ground and pounding an old man (Mixed Martial Arts Move).

Up until this point, I would say Zimmerman is innocent.

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A physician assistant who treated George Zimmerman's injuries the day after he said he shot and killed Trayvon Martin in self-defense testified Friday that she had treated Zimmerman before, and that he told her he'd had been involved with mixed martial arts several times a week.

Lindzee Folgate said she previously treated Zimmerman in August and September 2011. When he returned for treatment on Feb. 27, 2012, with various cuts and a broken nose, Folgate said Zimmerman told her he was in a fight and his head was shoved into the ground.
Once again, don't let facts get in the way of your thinking.


Zimmerman was 27 years old at the time. Do you seriously call that being an "old man"?

The Big Dog's back

Really. Georges St-Pierre is 32. Old fart.


Re: "Georges St-Pierre is 32."

Like to watch sweaty men roll around huh?

Trying to make your dog jealous? :)

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So when are you starting your petition?


Enjoy your Big Dog's BACK. :)

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Which petition are you starting, polygamy or incest?


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