Obama: NSA secret data gathering 'transparent'

Obama to public: "...phone calls aren't being listened into; text messages aren't being monitored, emails are not being read by some big brother somewhere."
Associated Press
Jun 18, 2013

 

President Barack Obama defended top secret National Security Agency spying programs as legal in a lengthy interview Monday, and called them transparent — even though they are authorized in secret.

"It is transparent," Obama told PBS' Charlie Rose in an interview broadcast Monday. "That's why we set up the FISA court," he added, referring to the secret court set up by the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act that authorizes two recently disclosed programs: one that gathers U.S. phone records and another that is designed to track the use of U.S.-based Internet servers by foreigners with possible links to terrorism.

He added that he's named representatives to a privacy and civil liberties oversight board to help in the debate over just how far government data gathering should be allowed to go — a discussion that is complicated by the secrecy surrounding the FISA court, with hearings held at undisclosed locations and with only government lawyers present. The orders that result are all highly classified.

"We're going to have to find ways where the public has an assurance that there are checks and balances in place ... that their phone calls aren't being listened into; their text messages aren't being monitored, their emails are not being read by some big brother somewhere," Obama said.

A senior administration official said the president had asked Director of National Intelligence James Clapper to determine what more information about the two programs could be made public, to help better explain them. The official spoke on condition of anonymity because the official was not authorized to speak publicly.

Obama is in Northern Ireland for a meeting of leaders of allied countries. As Obama arrived, the latest series of Guardian articles drawing on the leaks claims that British eavesdropping agency GCHQ repeatedly hacked into foreign diplomats' phones and emails with U.S. help, in an effort to get an edge in such high-stakes negotiations.

Obama's announcement follows an online chat Monday by Edward Snowden, the man who leaked documents revealing the scope of the two programs to The Guardian and The Washington Post newspapers. He accused members of Congress and administration officials of exaggerating their claims about the success of the data gathering programs, including pointing to the arrest of would-be New York subway bomber Najibullah Zazi in 2009.

Snowden said Zazi could have been caught with narrower, targeted surveillance programs — a point Obama conceded in his Monday interview without mentioning Snowden.

"We might have caught him some other way," Obama said. "We might have disrupted it because a New York cop saw he was suspicious. Maybe he turned out to be incompetent and the bomb didn't go off. But, at the margins, we are increasing our chances of preventing a catastrophe like that through these programs," he said.

Obama repeated earlier assertions that the programs were a legitimate counterterror tool and that they were completely noninvasive to people with no terror ties — something he hoped to discuss with the privacy and civil liberties board he'd stood up. The senior administration official said the president would be meeting with the new privacy board in the coming days.

"I'll be meeting with them. And what I want to do is to set up and structure a national conversation, not only about these two programs, but also the general problem of data, big data sets, because this is not going to be restricted to government entities," he said.

Congressional leaders have said Snowden's disclosures have led terrorists to change their behavior, which may make them harder to stop — a charge Snowden discounted as an effort to silence him.

"The U.S. government is not going to be able to cover this up by jailing or murdering me," he said. He added the government "immediately and predictably destroyed any possibility of a fair trial at home," by labeling him a traitor, and indicated he would not return to the U.S. voluntarily.

Congressional leaders have accused Snowden of treason for revealing once-secret surveillance programs two weeks ago in the Guardian and The Washington Post. The National Security Agency programs collect records of millions of Americans' telephone calls and Internet usage as a counterterror tool. The disclosures revealed the scope of the collections, which surprised many Americans and have sparked debate about how much privacy the government can take away in the name of national security.

"It would be foolish to volunteer yourself to" possible arrest and criminal charges "if you can do more good outside of prison than in it," he said.

Snowden dismissed being called a traitor by former Vice President Dick Cheney, who made the allegations in an interview this week on Fox News Sunday. Cheney was echoing the comments of both Democrats and Republican leadership on Capitol Hill, including Senate Intelligence committee Chairwoman Dianne Feinstein.

"Being called a traitor by Dick Cheney is the highest honor you can give an American, and the more panicked talk we hear from people like him, Feinstein ... the better off we all are," Snowden said.

The Guardian announced that its website was hosting an online chat with Snowden, in hiding in Hong Kong, with reporter Glenn Greenwald receiving and posting his questions. The Associated Press couldn't independently verify that Snowden was the man who posted 19 replies to questions.

In answer to the question of whether he fled to Hong Kong because he was spying for China, Snowden wrote, "Ask yourself: if I were a Chinese spy, why wouldn't I have flown directly into Beijing? I could be living in a palace petting a phoenix by now."

He added later, "I have had no contact with the Chinese government."

Snowden was working as a systems analyst contractor for NSA at the time he had access to the then-secret programs. He defended his actions and said he considered what to reveal and what not to, saying he did not reveal any U.S. operations against what he called legitimate military targets, but instead showed that the NSA is hacking civilian infrastructure like universities and private businesses.

"These nakedly, aggressively criminal acts are wrong no matter the target. Not only that, when NSA makes a technical mistake during an exploitation operation, critical systems crash," he said, though he gave no examples of what systems have crashed or in which countries.

"Congress hasn't declared war on the countries — the majority of them are our allies — but without asking for public permission, NSA is running network operations against them that affect millions of innocent people," he said. "And for what? So we can have secret access to a computer in a country we're not even fighting?"

Snowden was referring to Prism, one of the programs he disclosed. The program sweeps up Internet usage data from all over the world that goes through nine major U.S.-based Internet providers. The NSA can look at foreign usage without any warrants, and says the program doesn't target Americans.

Snowden explained his claim that from his desk, he could "wiretap" any phone call or email — a claim top intelligence officials have denied. "If an NSA, FBI, CIA, DIA, etc. analyst has access to query raw SIGINT (signals intelligence) databases, they can enter and get results for anything they want," he wrote in the answer posted on the Guardian site. "Phone number, email, user id, cell phone handset id (IMEI), and so on — it's all the same."

The NSA did not immediately respond to an email seeking comment. But DNI Clapper has said that the kind of data that can be accessed and who can access it is severely limited.

 

Comments

Darwin's choice

Liar !

SamAdams

If Obama said that the sky was blue, I'd have to go outside to check. That man lies about EVERYthing! And then there are the fools who swallow it...

deertracker

Please explain!

SamAdams

How much of an explanation does this require? Really?

"You can keep your insurance plan if you like it," all the way to calling it the AFFORDABLE Health Care Act and claiming premiums would go down (Ohio premiums will be going up by about 88%, last I heard).

"It was a YouTube video." "I won't use signing statements."

Google almost anything he said as a Senator and he's since contradicted it, lied about contradicting it, or blamed George W. Bush. How do you tell if Obama (or, to be fair, almost ANY politician) is lying? His lips are moving.

The Big Dog's back

My insurance went down and I kept the same insurance. Same with the 180 other people who work there.

deertracker

@Sam
FAIL! Do you know what a lie is? Look it up!

SamAdams

A lie is something that is not true. Sort of like no, many people CAN'T keep their insurance, whether they like it or not. Sort of like no, a YouTube video had nothing to do with Benghazi, and he KNEW it when he said it. Oh, and also a whole lot like an NSA program (and the FISA court) having "transparency," since both of them by their OWN definitions and charges are everything BUT transparent. Yup. Deliberate lies like THOSE.

deertracker

A lie is a knowing deception of the truth. How do you know what he knew when he said anything? Benghazi, the NSA story have all been proven that there is no there there. Why would the FISA court be transparent when it is suppose to be secret? It also has been around for years. MANY can keep their insurance. It's been proven. This is a good man and a good President. Hate the guy all you want but he has NOT lied to the American people. Making statement like you have only proves that YOU are clueless. I don't agree with everything he has done but I believe in him. Telling the American people the we are in danger of a "mushroom cloud" type attack was a lie and he knew it was not true when he said it. That is the definition and example of a LIE!

ladydye_5

I do not believe anything the man says either.

coasterfan

The independent fact checker Politifact would disagree. During the 2012 election, they found that Obama was factual 84% of the time, which was noticeably higher than any of the GOP candidates. Sam, words have actual meanings. Your comments are all generalized insults with no facts or statistics to back them up.

Darwin's choice

"Your comments...no facts or statistics to back them up" Really? You seem to constantly spew "factless" comments yourself! Frequently!!
coasterfan
Wed, 06/19/2013 - 5:05am
The NSA, As a direct result of this policy, recently foiled a number of terrorist attacks, including one on the US Stock Exchange. Since our dear Republican friends are unabashed
Capitalists, I'm wondering if they are happy that NSA "spying" thwarted the attack on Wall Street? Cricket. Cricket....

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Contango
Wed, 06/19/2013 - 5:12am
Re: "NSA "spying" thwarted the attack on Wall Street?"

See above: I posted a link to the story about 12 hours earlier.

http://armstrongeconomics.com/20...

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Darwin's choice
Wed, 06/19/2013 - 9:50pm
Well, coasterfan, how about that! Full of crap again!

Contango

Kinda like the TSA pattin' down little old ladies lookin' for terrorists.

The NSA can't profile and target the "certain ethnics" that are more than likely to be the "real" terrorists.

OH NO! THAT would be POLITICALLY INCORRECT!

They instead need to waste billions of hard earned taxpayer (plus borrowed and printed) money and shove EVERYONE into the dragnet.

Of course Mr. Obama likes the surveillance; it's an expensive BIG GOVT. program that'll largely end up being a bureaucratic "circle jerk."

To paraphrase lefty useful idiot Bill Maher:

I'm not worried about a Pres. Obama with this program. I'm worried about a Pres. Cruz.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com...

Remember lefties: Mr. Obama AIN'T gonna be Prez forever. :)

deertracker

Which ethnics? Do tell!

Contango

^^^ “Some of YOU nice folks are just plain DUMB!” – deertracker, 05/20/2013 :-7

deertracker

I just need some clarification. Are you referring to just the 9/11 bombers or the shoe bomber, the underwear bomber, the Time Square bomber, the D. C. snipers. the Okc. City Building bombers, the Boston Marathon bombers, the Columbine Killers, the Movie theatre killer, the Sandy Hook killer or the white supremacist that was killed by his wife before he could execute his plan to set off a dirty bomb at the first Obama inauguration?

You are right....."^^^^^^some of you folks/cons are just plain DUMB!" Contango, 06/18/2013 :-7

Contango

Re: "I just need some clarification."

So you're OK with these programs because to you EVERYONE is under suspicion eh?

And to you pattin' down little old ladies at airports is a good use of govt. resources?

Why not bus & train terminals as well?

Can't be too careful eh?

So you'd give the govt. permission to data mine your info.?

Guess you're OK with Pres. Obama armin' the Syrian militants too huh?

deertracker

Thanks for the "clarification".

Contango

Based on your list, it appeared that no "clarification" was necessary because to you EVERYONE is guilty until proven innocent.

So you're willing to give the govt. your electronic data to mine as they see fit?

The Big Dog's back

Deflect, deflect, deflect.

deertracker

As usual!

shucks

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shucks

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44846GWP

Winnie, why don't you get a job, then you wouldn't have time to be on here 24/7 complaining and spreading your gloom and doom. Do you ever have a positive thought in your head? Are you ever happy?

samiam

Word to the government: If you haven't done anything wrong, then you've got nothing to worry about. Isn't that the drivel that government feeds us?

Contango

So nice, I'll post it twice.

According to an article in the WSJ:

"A Ph.D. candidate in computational ecology wrote on his blog last week that even a very accurate algorithm for identifying terrorist communications could produce about 10,000 false positives for every real 'hit,' creating a haystack of false leads to chase in order to find every needle."

Reads like an EXPENSIVE BIG GOVT. tail chasing exercise.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB...

(Copy & paste the title and then click on a link in Google to get past the filters if necessary.)

shucks

"Reads like an EXPENSIVE BIG GOVT. tail chasing exercise."

Let us just drop our guard - to save that precious money - and see what happens.

SamAdams

I agree. We can't afford to drop our guard! Oh, ooops, we already have. The single greatest threat we face is the borders that leak like a sieve (with documented instances of Middle Eastern terror suspects sneaking in), the lack of follow up on temporary visas, and the unwillingness to follow the law when illegals are actually caught. NONE of that involves listening to my phone conversations or monitoring your emails.

shucks

If Bush would have taken seriously the warnings that there was going to be a terrorist attack, which by the way DID involve "...listening to my phone conversations or monitoring your emails"... a.k.a 'electronic surveillance' --- 9/11 could have been prevented.

shucks

PS

Basically you're saying : 'Stop electronic surveillance and just concentrate on the borders'.

That doesn't come across as being wise.

SamAdams

No. I'm saying that our borders are the greatest and most immediate danger. I'm ALSO saying that, while electronic surveillance could be a big help, it simply cannot be permitted to be broad spectrum surveillance without compromising civil liberties. Right now, the only places apparently excluded from FBI, NSA, etc. monitoring are mosques! Whoa, ANOTHER not wise mistake...

shucks

1. "No. I'm saying that our borders are the greatest and most immediate danger"

We have border patrols. Have you not seen them driving around?

2. "I'm ALSO saying that, while electronic surveillance could be a big help,"...

Electronic surveillance HAS been a big help.

3. "...it simply cannot be permitted to be broad spectrum surveillance without compromising civil liberties."

Terrorists have civil liberties?
Do you think it's easy to pick the fly sh!t out of the pepper ?

4. "Right now, the only places apparently excluded from FBI, NSA, etc. monitoring are mosques!"

"...apparently excluded ..."???
Do you REALLY think that mosques aren't being monitored?

The Big Dog's back

Wall Street Journal= Rupert Murdock= Fox news in print.

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xdefiance

Screw this NSA sht. Screw the Illuminati. Stop feeding our people with all this conspiracy fallacy.

Contango

Re: "Stop feeding our people with all this conspiracy fallacy."

Yeah right, the Patriot Act and the NDAA are ONLY "conspiracies."

All the useful idiots need to keep drinking that Obama brand Kool-aid and singin' "Don't Worry, Be Happy."

The Big Dog's back

We would drink it but all you righties drank it up under Bush.

rec8888

Once a liar always a liar! And he has proven that over and over during his time in office doing nothing for America. And hes using his big word again-transparent, are you kidding me? He does'nt know what the word means. If he wanted to be open and transparent make his college records available and maybe even his birth certificate. Or how about making known his secret emails he and his staff has been using, or maybe his closed door meetings with his butt sucking media. And I could go on & on but you who voted for him, especially the second time around, are losers and more stupid than some of the people you voted for in last election. How about some answers on Fast & Furious, Benghasi, IRS, NSA, thats just to name a couple that would have him impeached if truth ever come to fore front. Maybe he does'nt have time for honesty as he's still watching that fake video he and ding bat HC made up. Whatever hes a sad example for our president.

The Big Dog's back

So rec, just what is the "truth"?

deertracker

You are pretty sad as an educated person rec!

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xdefiance

Last year it was the illumanati this year its the NSA. Feeding all the paranoids. Stop feeding us fear! We have nothing to hide and surely nothing to fear.

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xdefiance

How to combat NSA surveillance: TALK LIKE A TERRORIST.

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xdefiance

THE NSA 100% read this. They know where you are, they know where I am, and they know more about us than our own parents do. I'm sure the NSA actually read this comment. Newsflash: The NSA doesn't give a sht who you are. Much like your parents.

Contango

Re: "The NSA doesn't give a sht who you are."

And SWAT teams and the DEA NEVER hit the wrong house do they?

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xdefiance

Correct. the SWAT teams and the DEA never hit the wrong house. But for the majority of Americans: We have NOTHING TO HIDE and surely NOTHING TO FEAR.

Contango

Re: "But for the majority of Americans: We have NOTHING TO HIDE and surely NOTHING TO FEAR."

The list of federal crimes are growing exponentially. You probably broke some laws this morning and were totally unaware.

For one: Eliot Spitzer's hook ups were discovered by way of the Patriot Act through bank records.

What the h*ll did THAT have to do with national security???

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xdefiance

I broke some laws this mornin? Sorry buddy but No didn't break any laws. I woke up, I cooked some fckn eggs and bacon with swiss cheese and toast. Poured myself some OJ then proceeded to have a cigarette. Is that american enough for you? I'm tired of the media feeding this FEAR onto us.

Contango

Re: "No didn't break any laws."

So you wouldn't mind if some feds came into your house and take a look around just to be sure would ya?

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xdefiance

I'd welcome them into my home with open arms. Then i'd proceed to have a BBQ and complain to them about how our tax payers money is being wasted on sht raids like this one.

Contango

Re: "I'd welcome them into my home with open arms."

Good to read. In your case we might as well rescind the Fourth Amend.

And remember: Don't lie. Lying to a fed is a federal offense and you could do time.

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xdefiance

Ok. You're sitting on your PC threatening raids and talking for the gov't. stop antagonizing. I have nothing to hide as well with the majority of Americans. What do I have to lie about? Nothing at all. Nothing at all. Nothing at all. We could be on the same team you know. But hey i'm not the on e pushing the gov't agenda and FEAR sht.

Contango

Re: "stop antagonizing."

So I should be FEARFUL of retaliation?

Seems to run totally counter to your entire "nothing to hide" premise.

Which is it???

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xdefiance

Anyways I'm off for a walk at an Erie County Metro Park. Send the surveillance teams and bag men to grab me unsuspectingly on the trails. lol

Contango

Re: "I'm off for a walk at an Erie County Metro Park."

Be sure to report any suspicious activity. If not, you could be charged with complicity.

And quit smokin'. Taxpayer funded ObamaKare will put an end to that unhealthy nonsense.

shucks

The Republicans are a fear propaganda machine.
They lie ALL the time.
I honestly can't recall them ever telling the truth or being fair and balanced.

Darwin's choice

There's the obamabot cheerleader speaking!! How are obama's polls looking these days 4shizzle? Seems that people are finally seeing through the BS thrown out by the white house.......! Also, Jimmy Carter is still sending Thank You cards to Barack! Winner, worst president ever!! History will not be kind to the current administration!

shucks

You and your opinions are worthless.

Hillary 2016 !!!

deertracker

Completely worthless!

shucks

I've got a picture of Darwin's reject >

http://media01.fun4pic.com/2010/...

The Big Dog's back

LOL. So true xdefiance. They could care less.

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xdefiance

+1

Darwin's choice

Novel idea...lets start a poll listing the things that obama has accomplished that are helping the average American....

1. Nothing
2. .......
feel free to add to this surely to be long list......

The Big Dog's back

1. Within his first week, he signed an Executive Order ordering an audit of government contracts, and combating waste and abuse. http://1.usa.gov/dUvbu5

2. Created the post of Chief Performance Officer, whose job it is to make operations more efficient to save the federal government money. http://n.pr/hcgBn1

3. On his first full day, he froze White House salaries. http://on.msnbc.com/ewJUIx

4. He appointed the first Federal Chief Information Officer to oversee federal IT spending. http://www.cio.gov

5. He committed to phasing out unnecessary and outdated weapons systems. To that end, he also signed the Democratic-sponsored Weapons Systems Acquisition Reform Act, which attempted to put a stop to waste, fraud and abuse in the defense procurement and contracting system. http://bit.ly/hOw1t1 http://bit.ly/fz8GAd

6. Through an executive order, he created the National Commission on Fiscal Responsibility and Reform. http://bit.ly/hwKhKa

Prevented a Bush Depression and Improved the Economy

7. Pushed through and signed the Democratic-sponsored American Recovery and Reinvestment Act, otherwise known as “the stimulus package.” The bill passed, even though only three Republicans voted for it. In a major departure from the previous administration, he launched recovery.gov, a website that allows taxpayers to track spending from the Act. http://1.usa.gov/ibiFSs http://1.usa.gov/e3BJMk

8. The Bush-led Great Recession was costing the economy nearly 800,000 jobs per month by the time President Obama took office. But by the end of his first year, the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act created and sustained 2.1 million jobs and stimulated the economyby 3.5%. http://reut.rs/i46CEE

9. Not only did he completed the massive TARP financial and banking rescue plan, he also leaned on the banks and others, and recovered virtually all of the bail-out money. http://1.usa.gov/eA5jVS http://bit.ly/eCNrD6

10. He created the Making Home Affordable home refinancing plan. http://1.usa.gov/goy6zl

arnmcrmn

1. Welfare is up.
2. National debt is up.
3. Growth has been as stagnant as Big Dogs breath
4. Housing market........what housing market?
5. Stimulus was a flat out failure
6. Benghazi coverup
7. IRS is biased
8. NSA leaks
9. More terrorist attacks keep on happening under his watch.

Contango

Re: 1-10.

And all were largely "accomplished" on the back of a federal debt ceiling that is about to be raised to $17 trillion.

Any FOOL can tax, borrow and spend and Pres. Obama CERTAINLY proves it.

Current and future Americans will suffer for his profligate ways.

The Big Dog's back

"Any FOOL can tax, borrow and spend". Like Reagan, Bush 1, Bush 2.

shucks

[ sound of 'applause']

Contango

Re: "'It is transparent,' Obama told PBS' Charlie Rose..."

"'That's why we set up the FISA court,' he added, referring to the secret court set up by the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act"

It's TRANSPARENT, BUT it's SECRET. Got it?

Do you Obamabots ever listen to what he ACTUALLY says? :)

Even NPR says that Pres. Obama is full of BS.

"Despite being overseen by judges, they are not examined in the way that a normal application for a search warrant is."

http://www.npr.org/2013/06/18/19...

The Big Dog's back

pooh, a little secret. NPR is not a Liberal network. The Koch brothers are one of it's largest contributors.

Contango

Re: "a little secret."

"Bullspit." :-7

shucks

"Better do some research ..." Cont.

Truth or Dare

Google Cspan's interview after the NSA briefing took place. Fienstien's concern was rather transparent. It wasn't only written all over her face, it was made pretty clear as to how she feels and I would venture to say I don't think she's real pleased! She actually appeared physically shaken! Make sure to listen carefully and view the whole interview, especially the 2 men that spoke after her. Talk about damage control, yet at the same time just digging your hole deeper!

Now folks are talking about the ACLU not being happy?! You think?! They can use/make all the excuses they want for such a program, which is intertwined w/every LE agency there is and gives a whole new meaning of "an agency within an agency, within an agency, within an agency".....they can set up all the kangaroo courts and judges they want. What they're doing is in clear violation of the U.S. Constitution. No matter how many times they repeat and I'm paraphrasing, "everything we're doing is legal under the U.S. Constitution".

The thought police know where to find me.

Contango

One might do well to take a look at the Declaration of Independence and see if our own federal govt. hasn't devolved into an oppressor not dissimilar to that which our ancestors fought against.

"But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security

He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harrass our people, and eat out their substance.

For depriving us in many cases, of the benefits of Trial by Jury:

For taking away our Charters, abolishing our most valuable Laws, and altering fundamentally the Forms of our Governments:

For suspending our own Legislatures, and declaring themselves invested with power to legislate for us in all cases whatsoever."

http://www.archives.gov/exhibits...

The Big Dog's back

Gee, isn't this the President whose campaign didn't remove armed right wingnuts from his rally's?

Centauri

https://ssd.eff.org/book/export/...
"Before you can think about security against the government, you need to know law enforcment’s capabilities and limitations. The government has extraordinary abilities — it’s the best-funded adversary you’ll ever face. But the government does have limits. It must decide whether it is cost-effective to deploy its resources against you. Further, law enforcement officers have to follow the law, and most often will try to do so, even if only because there are penalties associated with violating it. The first and most important law for our purposes is the Fourth Amendment to the United States Constitution."

The above information is a good read. Put it into your favorites for future reading. There is some good reading there about modern technology such as computers.

"Privacy tip: Sneak and peek searches, key-loggers and government spyware"

"Secret searches can be used to install eavesdropping and wiretapping devices. Secret searches may also be used to install a key-logging device on your computer. A key-logger records all of the keystrokes that you make on the computer's keyboard, for later retrieval by the police who installed it. So if you are concerned about government surveillance, you should check your office computers for new added hardware that you don't recognize — especially anything installed between the keyboard and the computer — and remove it. A hardware key-logger often looks like a little dongle in between the keyboard plug and computer itself. Keyghost is an example of a hardware key-logger.

However, the government also has the capability to remotely install software key-loggers on your computer — or search the contents of your hard drive, or install surveillance capability on your computer — using its own spyware. There were rumors of such capability a few years ago in news reports about a government software program code-named "Magic Lantern" that could be secretly installed and monitored over the Internet, without the police ever having to enter your house or office. More recently, news reports revealed that the government had in one case been able to hack into a computer remotely and install software code-named "CIPAV" (the "Computer and Internet Protocol Address Verifier"), which gave the government the IP addresses with which the infected computer communicated.

In response to a survey, all of the major anti-spyware companies claimed that their products would treat government spyware like any other spyware programs, so you should definitely use some anti-spyware product to monitor your computer for such programs. It's possible that a spyware company may receive a court order requiring it not to alert you to the presence of government spyware (several of the companies that were surveyed declined to say whether they had received such orders), but you should still use anti-spyware software if only to protect yourself against garden-variety spyware deployed by identity thieves and commercial data harvesters."

My own computer has been attacked quite frequently. Sometimes the malware or virus will be disguised as a reputable update such as Adobe or Java. Be forwarned and prepare yourself for attacks on your computer.

Also be careful when using a public computer in a library or any public place. There might be some software installed that will have a record of every key stroke that you make. There is a lot of good information on the internet about your privacy using a public computer or even a friend's computer. Then you have your smart phones.

http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,...
"Using a public computer at an Internet café, library, school, or even a friend's house is quite a different situation. First, you have no guaranteed that the computer is protected; it might be riddled with viruses or afflicted with a keylogger. Second, unless you're careful the next user might learn a lot more than you'd like about your online session."

The above link is over a year old. Do your research to find more information.

Some people making comments here sadden me at times. Why would you freely give up your rights to privacy and agree to the government intrusion? I could take advantage of the new NSA rules against my enemies and they against me. Here is a one way. Somebody decides to set you up by pretending to be a terrorist and keeps sending you anonymous phone calls and text messages. You figure out the outcome.

JACKEL

Send that clown to back to Kenya !

JACKEL

Send that clown and his finger he is always pointing back to Kenya !

The Big Dog's back

We like our "Kenyan" President.

Darwin's choice
arnmcrmn

Take a couple minutes and watch your liar and chief. Oh how quick he has changed his stance.
Video You Won’t See in Media: Senator Obama Debates President Obama on Surveillance

Read more: http://newsbusters.org/blogs/mat...

Blues

Transparent?! Are you freakin' kidding me? It would be translucent at best and more like opaque.

Contango

Bill Ayres: Obama should be tried for war crimes.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com...

The Big Dog's back

Wow! Quoting Bill Ayres now? Holy spit!

The Big Dog's back

Next you will be quoting Rev. Wright!

The Big Dog's back

How about Tony Rezko?

The Big Dog's back

New Black Panther party?

Contango

"NSA Saves the NY Stock Exchange – Everyone Rejoice!":

http://armstrongeconomics.com/20...

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2cents

Hope walk was well, try Eagles Nest Café in front of Old Woman's Creek some time, good food.

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2cents

Very transparent, yeppers! Lets give these guys some more arms, it appears they have enough already.

http://thelibertarianrepublic.co...

The Big Dog's back

New Libertarians = Old right wingnuts.

bondgirlM

Transparent as mud!

amazedeveryday

As I said before, no one does any research before spouting off here. There are things being done wrong by all, but this country has been safe no matter who or what you give credit or blame to. Remember, this government is "we the people", which is far different from the continuing "spinning the truth" by so many commentators that people would rather believe and make wealthy with their contributions.

Centauri

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/...
"National Security Agency uses supercomputers to gather whispers, spin web of secrets"

Code-breakers at the Fort Meade, Md.-based agency search for keywords in emails or patterns in phone numbers that might link known terrorist targets with possible new suspects. They then farm out that information to the 16 U.S. intelligence agencies and to law enforcement."

Read that again and pay attention.
"keywords in emails"
"farm out that information"
"and to law enforcement"

Read the comments after reading the news article.

Your phone calls and emails will be "sifted" for some information that may not be related to any terrorist acts. Other information will be turned over to law enforcement which could give them probable cause to pay you a visit with or without a warrant.

https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/20...
October 10, 2008
"New NSA Whistleblowers Say NSA Spied on US Service Members and Aid Workers"

"According to ABC News and a new book by James Bamford, David Murfee Faulk and Adrienne Kinne witnessed and participated in the interception of hundreds of personal, intimate calls from American service members and aid workers. They say NSA employees have been routinely intercepting the calls of individuals with no involvement in terrorism."

"Faulk, a linguist working as an "intercept operator" at the NSA complex in Fort Gordon, Georgia, says that NSA employees often shared personal communications from Americans living oversees just for the fun of it"

"But whistleblowers keep cropping up, confirming what EFF and other civil libertarians have been saying all along: intelligence agencies cannot be relied upon to police themselves, and the privacy rights of innocent Americans are being violated."

Centauri
coasterfan

The NSA, As a direct result of this policy, recently foiled a number of terrorist attacks, including one on the US Stock Exchange. Since our dear Republican friends are unabashed
Capitalists, I'm wondering if they are happy that NSA "spying" thwarted the attack on Wall Street? Cricket. Cricket....

Contango

Re: "NSA "spying" thwarted the attack on Wall Street?"

See above: I posted a link to the story about 12 hours earlier.

http://armstrongeconomics.com/20...

Darwin's choice

Well, coasterfan, how about that! Full of crap again!

Truth or Dare

"Most Americans don't know".........Care to watch "Security Clearance Process"? Just Google, it's on Cspan's Public Affairs. In the words of Patrick McFarland, "stay tuned in".