Perkins Schools contract cut by $1 million; $11 million left to go

Non-teaching Perkins Schools employees approved a new 5-year contract this week that will save the district nearly $1 million during the next four years.
Alissa Widman Neese
Mar 14, 2013

That's one step.

Click here for a previous story about the proposed budget cuts for the district. 

The school board still can't agree on the next step, however, and determining what programs and staff members must be cut to save an additional $11 million remains unresolved.

Board members initially planned to announce two rounds of district-wide cuts last week and approve them this week.

Get the ePaper or buy a Register at a newsstand near you to read about what's next on the road to solvency for the Perkins school district.

After several hours of discussion during executive, closed-door meetings, however, they have yet to release vote for an approved list. 

"There are lots of options we need to discuss," board president Matt Kosior said. "If there was one good option we would have done it a long time ago. None of these cuts are cuts we want to make."

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Comments

RMyer

I don’t think the discussion to address the school facilities is driven by what might happen with test scores; although, if improvement is noted, then that’s a bonus. [What test scores are being used for by elected officials is misguided in my opinion (and a discussion I would be happy to have at another time). I will say that there isn’t a business I know of that would agree to be rated in the same manner as schools are being rated. Our high school does a good job with the OGT results; check out the specific info related to comparable districts and versus state averages on the ODE website].

The physical environment we place kids in does impact learning. Below, I have listed a couple of links if you wish to review the articles. The first is on the U.S. Dept. of Education site, the other an article posted online on HPost about a study done in England. If you check out the school physical spaces/environment in some other developed countries, they have taken a much different approach to the physical space/school design than we have taken in this country.

I did look for studies that stated the physical space did not have an impact on students, but didn’t find one yet.

Impact of Inadequate School Facilities on Student Learning

http://www2.ed.gov/offices/OESE/...

School Design, Classroom Layout Can Heavily Affect Student Grades, Learning: Study
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/20...

Perkins2060

Lol! Huffington post....

donutshopguy

Strong,

When I met the superintendent to discuss the new academy I brought up making the school smaller due to the integration of computers. This would be less costly and might get the public to approve. My idea was soundly dismissed. We are building a school
One and one half the size that is presently in use.

I forwarded an idea that we use the same concept as the football field and have private donations used to help fund the pool, gym, auditorium and the arts area. I vollenteered my time. Not a word from the powers to be.

The BOE and superintendent don't want your ideas. They have made up theirs minds and I believe the don't care what the community wants. I believe they look at us as uneducated and unimportant .

This is my opinion. I am big on education but this group has not convinced me the school is necessary .

underthebridge

I've had similar experiences and know of similar experiences by other parents.

Perkins2060

I can't wait until the state puts the brakes on open enrollment. Poor districts are losing millions to other districts.

donutshopguy

"The physical environment we place kids in does impact learning."

RMyer, based on your assumption how long have Perkins students been deprived of the optimum environment ? One part of the high school building is 99 years old.

Perkins2060

Tell that to Harvard.

Wald

I know, right? There are schools around much older than Perkins that seem to be able to function just fine.

RMyer

"You have provided no concrete information that a new school building will improve the test scored or education "of the children "

No assumption on my part; it's a statement that has been researched. You had posted the above comment, and I wanted to make sure that you were aware that there is research that shows the physical environment does affect students. When the facility issue is addressed that should be taken into account in the redesign of the facilities. The 99 year old part of the high school is one of the reasons the facility discussion was begun and figures in analyses of the facilities.

Strong Schools ...

Thank you, RMyer for providing the information! I agree with what your post says and I will also research concrete information to share on this blog. It is constantly preached that the environment does effect learning but I will look for some articles and researched based resources. This does seem a little common sense and other people have agreed that I have talked to. We are effected by our environments but I will make sure I look for some factual information and not opinionated. Remember, it is about $20 a month. I am willing to give up a movie night to make sure we have adequate environments and educational opportunities for our children. Vote Yes!

Wald

How about I vote yes on the levy and you can pay my taxes to the school each month? Sound like a good deal?

Strong Schools ...

Donutshopguy,

The school now consists of 9-12 students. Please remember the new school will be a 7-12 structure. The school would have to be bigger since it will house more students. I am sorry your ideas have not been heard. Keep trying...trust me, this blog is not the easiest thing to do but I am wiling to keep the conversations open. Don't give up... just like a lot of us do not want to give up on our children. Keep focused on what this could do for everyone in Perkins.

Perkins2060

VOTE NO ON BOTH LEVIES!

donutshopguy

Strong,

You say $20 dollars. I say $14,400 dollars. Neither of us are wrong just how we spin the numbers .

RMyer offers two studies funded by organization that are biased. It's important to know who funded the studies . What do you teach ? Do you question anything before you present information to your students? I read an article today that believes the holocaust was made up. Should we believe that because it was written?

RMyer

The link to the U.S. Dept. of Ed. web site cites numerous research studies about school physical environments and there are multiple other studies one can access on other sites. Education is a field which has always had quite a lot of research done by those who are part of the education field. But that's what educators do-lots of research on all aspects of education. One could, I suppose, dismiss all of the data and methodology in the studies as biased, made up, slanted, and should be ignored, or one could determine if the data collection, methodology, and conclusions are in keeping with sound research principles. I teach my students to look for reliable information on all sides of an issue and that is based on data and reliable evidence (holocaust deniers have a little trouble with the actual evidence) when possible. Then, base a decision on the merits. I stated that I had spent some time looking for research (not opinion pieces) that indicated that school physical environment had little or no effect on students but couldn't find it; it may be out there, but someone else will have to find it.

Strong Schools ...

I am just happy that RMyer tried to present some resources for us to look at and assess. I liked the articles and I am will be looking for some articles tonight. RMyer, Thank you for providing the information! I do find it difficult to find information that is not biased. A lot of researchers write articles because it is of interest to them and their bias tends to show.

Strong Schools ...

Hi Donutshopguy,

I did find some articles on the Education Resources Information Center. I was reading some of them and they support the facilities question. I will be completely honest, today was very busy at work and tomorrow is going to be even more busy. I am just a little tired. I hope you check out the resources and I will keep checking. I am not giving up on you!

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the unsilent ma...

2 no votes from this household. i cant support any form of government that tramples my vote and procedes with plans despite a majority of voters telling them this is not what we want. If the boe and gunner would have listened to we the people and started to look for alternative methods to build an effective yet modest school for our kids instead of a taj maschool, then i could be persuaded to vote for a levy to support their ambitions. We have a nice stadium now but the high school is apparently about to collapse. Does anyone see the stupidity in this? I went to see the 2nd grade program at the hs auditorium a few weeks back and i was in fear for my safety the entire time!!!! (Sarcasm) priorities folks. figure them out

donutshopguy

Strong,

As a community member where this levy will effect four generations of my family I must filter out the bias of those with a agenda . I must analysis the information provide by the school to interpret what they say and what they don't say. What they don't say is sometimes more important than they say.

My biggest disappointment is the BOE attempt to eliminate public involvement by vote in the building of a $50 million dollar school. What are their thoughts? We know better than the public what they need ? We can't pass a normal levy so we have to devise another method of getting what we want?

Again, you have to analysis what is said and not said to make an informed decision.

oldpirate

It is only going to get more expensive! So because you are unhappy with the BOE you are willing to pay more in the end. You show em.

Wald

It's not going to cost more in the future if they see that the voters are unhappy and decide to renovate or scale down their grandiose ideas, so vote no to save money.

oldpirate

This whole issue shouldn't be about pay back. If you don't like the way the BOE handles business run for the position and change. This levy is too important for that logic. You don't hurt Gunner or any board member by not supporting the levy.

Wald

Gunner and the BOE should have thought about logic when they stole the taxpayers' money to build their stadium and school. Vote no to keep your rights as taxpayers!

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the unsilent ma...

Well, as i see it gunner and the boe have hurt the supporters efforts a whole lot more than helped them. Maybe i will run for boe. I dont know if the people could handle me though.

Strong Schools ...

Unsilent Majority,

It sounds like you have students that attend Furry if you attended the second grade show. Think of what this could do for your children. I know people are upset with the board and Gunner but that has nothing to do with the children. It is not the children's fault on the decisions the board makes. We are punishing innocent people...your children! The community can show their true feelings when they go to vote for new board members. You are not punishing the board or Gunner. You are only going to punish the future of our community. The state has cut funding and the state has forced boards all across the state to come up with creative ways to fund their school districts. I don't think the public has been supportive of the board since I have moved here. WHen will the community support our schools. The district did go to the voters to build new schools two years ago. The voters said no. I can't blame the board for taking the next step in ensuring the health and safety of our children. Again, think of who you are really punishing. Unsilent, you should run for the board if you are this unhappy but can you handle all of this negativity from the people face to face and not behind a blog? I'm glad you sat in the auditorium for your child's show. Did you go backstage? Did you go in the storage spaces? There is a lot more to the auditorium than just a stage and seats.

Strong Schools ...

Unsilent Majority,
I am glad you have joined this discussion because we need to have these discussions. The school district does a good job patching the problems to make everything look fine on the outside. It is a totally different story when you go behind the scenes. Electrical wiring is close to being exposed on the outside of the buildings, sewer lines have broken multiple times under the buildings, restrooms have been closed in the high school because they can no longer be used, and this is just to name short few. They do a great job putting on the "make-up" but once you take the "make-up" off it is a totally different building. We will pay more money in the future if we continue to patch these issues. It will be more cost effective to build new rather than to fix the old problems. Please contact your principal or Gunner and get a tour of the buildings. A detailed tour. I know you have been in the buildings but they will show you things that are disturbing that you do not see from the outside.

Strong Schools ...

Donutshopguy,

I hope you expressed your thoughts to Gunner about getting the public more involved. I know you said you talked to him about different ideas pertaining to funding. It is good you went to him with some sort of an idea. Some people would rather complain and not try to help solve the problems. I get the feeling from you that you do want what is best for our children but you are torn because you are so frustrated with the board. Please show your thoughts when you go to the polls to vote for the board member's positions. Keep thinking about our children and how this will positively effect our community. I know it is hard to stay focused but we have to try.

fedup11

If the school is so bad then why did they build a new football field and stadium and not a school? VOTING NO!!!!

Strong Schools ...

The stadium was really bad too. Also, the stadium did not cost as much money and some of the funding came from outside donors which made it easier to go through the building process. You can read the past posts on the stadium project.

VOTENO

WRONG! Taxpayers got lied to and paid half. Don't lie

donutshopguy

Old,

If I vote "no" it will be for one reason.

I cannot vote for a group of individuals who feel the necessity to eliminate public vote on huge financial issues with significant impact on the community.

It's simple. My confidence in the present BOE and supertendient is lacking.

I am not looking short term, like this levy. I'm looking down the road on what type of bureaucratic quasi government are we leaving to my children and grandchildren. I want then to be free to make choices. Not willing to give into a life where bureaucrats make all the decisions.

If you let me vote on the school and the operating levy than I will accept the majority rule. Isn't that what this country was built on and soldiers died to protect.

Why is everyone being so short sighted In their logic with regards to this power grab ?

wiredmama222

Perkins is being faced with the same problems that almost every school is faced with at one time or another...a failing building system for its high school. Much like the infrastructure of any city, there comes a time when the age of repair becomes too much for it, and the building finally succumbs to its need for replacement and not repairs. When it finally needs to be torn down and a new building put up in its place.

When that happens, people worry, and rightly so, about the expense and unseen costs of the new building that will be necessary to house the children of the future of the community. It won't be cheap. Even the less fancy of the buildings of today run in the millions of dollars and leave people breathless with worry and anxiety over the costs. But they are a necessary evil if one wants to have a place to educate our young people.

We can all find pros and cons for building or not building these places: facts and reasons for each of us to gather behind, but in the end, the buildings must go up and someone has to pay for them. In the end, the present population of adult homeowners are those who do. Like it or not, we, the homeowners, usually with kids who are in school or just went to school, are the ones who foot the bills for these etifices.

They go up and we hope and pray that we have the foresight to build them well enough that they will last at least fifty or sixty years into the future. That these buildings will not need much maintence. That we have the foresight to put in state of the art heating and airconditioning, hot water, flooring, walls and electirical and air exchanging systems that will be good enough to last.

That our children will not have to bear too much expense to keep them running well so their children will enjoy them and use them for their children. At least that is the hope.

So while we debate the issues of having to face a levy to pay for a school, remember that places like Bellevue, Orrville, New Washington and other cities went through this. They, too, probably thought they couldn't do it either. They went through the debates, the nashing of teeth and the yelling and screaming about property taxes going up and how much more it would cost them each year. They thought about it, lost sleep over it and worried about it. But in the end, they drove past the new schools and say, "look at what we built this year", where "Timmy" and his kids will go for the next three or four generations. And they smile. That twenty or thirty dollars more a month on their property tax bill sure went a long way into the future.....so did that smile.

Just a thought.

Wald

The kids can smile now in the buildings they are already in. Smiles don't pay my bills, and neither do you. Vote no and keep your voice heard!

wiredmama222

@wald....no, sir, I don't pay your bills. If I could, I would. Seriously. I can bearly pay mine. LOL But I wish I could make everyone's bills disappear. I understand exactly how you feel. I was just stating my opinion about the infrastructers that eventually will all need to be replaced. Things wear out and have to be rebuilt. Sad but true. I wish it didn't cost so darn much.

Hope I didn't offend you.

donutshopguy

Wired,

Have no problem with voting on a levy to building
a new school. Have no problem with voting on an operating levy. Let the majority rule.

But, that's not what is going on. With the legal movement of millage the BOE and superintendent have taken away the rights of the taxpayers in this community to make those decisions.

This movement of millage has skewed the normal process. The money taken from the operating fund, to build the school without public vote, must be replaced. Thus, rather than a five mill levy for new operating funds the millage was doubled to cover the money moved.

A 10 mill operating levy has now been placed before the voters.

If you are against the transfer of funds you must vote "no" on the operating levy.
If you don't believe there is a need for a new school you must vote "no" on the operating levy.
If you feel this was a power grab by the BOE and superintendent you must vote "no" on the operating levy.
If you don't want to give up your protected rights to vote you must vote "no" on the operating levy.
If you don't have the financial resources to pay this additional tax burden you must vote "no" on this operating levy.

I believe a 5 mill operating levy had a chance to pass. With the added issues attached to this levy I believe it will be voted down by a significant majority.

wiredmama222

@donut....I believe it will go down to a defeat as well. Seriously.

And I seriously think that before too long you will see Sandusky and Perkins NEED to combine forces just to survive. Serious as the heart attack I just had two weeks ago..no joke.

Things are not getting better for any of us, they are getting worse. The only way for people to survive is to assist one another. This country cannot keep going like it is right now. It just can't. We are all going to starve if we don't start thinking about helping each other out in new and creative ways.

BooBeeDoo'

Briar School is not large enough to need two administrators. Why doesn't Gunner just hire Mr. Quisno as the principal? Perkins could save $77,900 per year removing Finn from his double dipping position.

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