Local Tea Party leader slams Kasich, Medicaid plan

Ohio is about to launch an avalanche of new spending by a federal government that’s already broke, conservatives and Tea Party members say. But health care advocates say that people who can’t afford to go to the doctor finally will get the care they need.
Tom Jackson
Mar 1, 2013

Ohio lawmakers must decide whether to follow Gov. John Kasich’s lead and approve a vast expansion of Ohio’s Medicaid system that would be funded largely by federal dollars.

Medicaid, which helps low-income Americans, covers about 2 million people in Ohio. The proposed expansion, which raises income eligibility and extends coverage to single people who don’t have children, would add about another 500,000 Ohioans to Medicaid.

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The federal government would cover 100 percent of the cost of the expansion for the first three years of the program, then gradually reduce its support to 90 percent.

Kasich said during last week’s speech in Lima that if lawmakers don’t act, tax dollars from Ohio taxpayers will be spent in other states. The Medicaid expansion would bring $13 billion of Ohio tax dollars back home so that the poor don’t have to try to obtain medical care in emergency rooms, Kasich said.

“I (have to) tell you, I can’t look at the disabled, I can’t look at the poor, I can’t look at the mentally ill, I can’t look at the addicted and think we ought to ignore them,” Kasich said. “For those that live in the shadows of life, those who are the least among us, I will not accept the fact that the most vulnerable in our state should be ignored. We can help them.. 

Ralph Kraus, a Perkins Township resident who is a leader of the Firelands Patriots Tea Party group in Erie County and a member of the Ohio Liberty Council, hopes lawmakers will reject Kasich’s appeal. Kraus said the federal government already is deeply in debt and making promises it can’t keep.

 “When the government is promising to take care of you when it’s $16 trillion in debt, it’s kind of foolish to believe the government is doing to stand behind this,” Kraus said.

Comments

Contango

Mr. Kasich is taking the money and running. Good for him.

A recent interview:

http://video.cnbc.com/gallery/?v...

Not to worry, the Obamacare boondoggle with eventually collapse on its own bureaucratic complexity.

Bluto

Yeah , Why can't poor people just die and quit taking my money . 8 P Sarcasm .

John Harville

you first.

goofus

That's a real intelligent and mature response!!!!

The Big Dog's back

But true.

goofus

Birds of a feather!!!! Showing the same maturity level!!!!!

Bluto

I am calling on the TEA party to split from the Republican party and form it's own party . I know they won't though because , they themselves know that without the Republican base they wouldn't stand a chance at holding power for long .

doc5798a

I didn't know the teabaggers were still around.

John Harville

Is Ralph the Firelands Patriots guy? The one who told a group of bystanders that the First Amendment applies at their tent only when they decide it does?
I don't think they should form their own party. I think they oughta form their own country... uh, no.... then they'd probably apply for aid.

Licorice Schtick

Moderators have removed this comment because it contained Personal attacks (including: name calling, presumption of guilt or guilt by association, insensitivity, or picking fights).

The Big Dog's back

Yes they are.

Contango

"...the mushrooming costs of Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid, with unfunded liabilities as high as $211 trillion, will bankrupt the nation’s youth and pose a much greater danger than the country’s $16 trillion of debt currently being debated in Congress."

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/20...

Not to worry, the political ruling class has it "all figured out" and we can all relax.

FORWARD SOVIET!

John Harville

Gramm-Rudman created the present pain. Know you won't acknowledge, but had to put it out there. SS Trust Fund was used to diminish the debt under Reagan. It's not even in the budget - back when Congress actually submitted a REAL budget.
Stick in your eye.

Contango

@ John Harville:

SS was added and Fannie became a publicly traded GSE under LBJ's 1969 unified budget.

Yep! Non-discretionary spending is outacontrol.

coasterfan

Two thoughts:
1.The Tea Party are not deserving of recognition simply because they were all curiously silent during the spending excesses and deficit-ridden policies of the Bush administration.
2. Can you really call yourself a patriot when you have basically roadblocked every attempt by the other 95% of Americans to fix any of our current problems, and furthermore have solved nothing yourselves?

coasterfan

Moderators have removed this comment because it contained Personal attacks (including: name calling, presumption of guilt or guilt by association, insensitivity, or picking fights).

Contango

coasterfan writes:

"Whenever I see someone with a tea party bumper sticker, I automatically remove 20 points from their IQ."

You see individuals with bumper stickers on their persons? lol

(What DID you teach anyway?)

Conversely, whenever I see someone with an Obama bumper sticker on their vehicle, I automatically assume that they're a useful idiot.

coasterfan

Ah, so Contango regards himself as a comedian. Methinks he needs a new writer...

Me, I taught students. By that I mean, like any good teacher, my students were more important than the subject I taught. Suffice to say that I was a teacher of the year award winner, and was on the state board for my particular discipline. I taught hundreds of students who were just like Contango: open mouths and closed minds. Luckily, student aged people are still malleable and can be taught.

It's probably too late for Contango. You can only watch Fox News for so many years before you actually start to believe that it's real news, rather than ideological entertainment in the same vein as Hannity and Limbaugh.

Statistics show that the more educated a person is, the more likely they are to vote Democrat. Contango is free to continue to associate with his under-educated tea party friends if he wishes to do so.

Contango

@ coasterfan:

I only commented on the context of what you wrote.

Obviously the subject wasn't English. lol Why do you refuse to name the subject?

Love the Fox News straw man. It shows a lack of originality in thought which common to useful idiots.

coasterfan

The correct word choice would have been "obviously", rather than 'obvious', along with your lack of a comma after the word "thought". Gotta love it when I get into an discussion with a semi-literate tool, who thinks that anyone who doesn't agree with his particular viewpoint is an idiot, and who is blissfully unaware of his own shortcomings...

Contango

"Useful idiot" is a perfectly acceptable and often used political term.

It need not denote stupidity, merely ignorance. However, if the shoe fits...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Use...

jas

Very well stated. Both Faux News and Rush Windbag encourage people not to think for themselves but simply parrot back their talking points. Reading Contango's posts are proof enough.

Contango

@ jas:

Enjoy taking mental comfort in the absurdity of your straw man arguments. You've learned the moronic process well from Dear Leader and MSNBC.

coasterfan

The thing is, we Democrats understand that MSNBC is slanted towards the left. Why is it that most conservatives don't admit that Fox is ( at least) equally slanted towards the right?

goofus

Then why all the quotes from left leaning cable news service and publications like the daily-kos,slate,and Huff-Po.

Bluto

Aaah , Hopefully we can all get back into our niches , and not bring up " The dog that shall not be mentioned " Oooops . ; ))))

8ballinthesidepocket

The problem is that these days most all people live beyond their means, paycheck to paycheck running up their credit cards beyond the limit. They want it all NOW. My parents never had credit cards, if they didn't have the cash, they saved and saved until they got it and then paid cash. So with this becoming the norm, you cannot convince people that our country should not live beyond it's means. We have created a class of people that consider welfare a career, they do it because their parents did it so on and so forth. Pretty soon the dollar will be worth a dime and the country will grow broke, but not to worry, the Chinese and Wal Mart will bail us out and we will all be on the government dole. What a shame. I wonder why the extension isn't teaching a class on how to make a living on your neighbors bank account...the new america, everybody on welfare, the government making all our decisions, and nobody taking responsibility for their own actions. Think I am wrong, go down to the welfare office in Sandusky or Cleveland or Detroit. It makes me sick.

jas

Why are people who try to do all they can for their families by applying and receiving all the government benefits they can get any different than Corporations squeezing every last cent out of consumers because the law allows them to do it? Are they both not doing what is in their best interest and within what the laws allow? Would not a Corpoartion be held accountable by its shareholders if it didn't do all it could to maximize profit but, apparently, it is wrong for parents to do all they can to maximize financial benefits from the government for their children? Greed is good for Corporations but "greed" on behalf of your children is wrong. Something is mixed up in the world we live in where profit over people is the norm.

Contango

@ jas:

Unfortunately, corps go outa business, govt. programs never die.

Here's an idea for ya:

Why don't the Progressives confiscate "hoarded money" from the well-healed NFPs and individuals?

"According to the most recent Federal Reserve Flow of Funds Report, from the third quarter of 2012, nonfinancial corporations held more than $15 trillion in financial assets. The combined money-market shares, currency and deposit accounts held by these companies in totaled a little less than $1.4 trillion.

This amount is dwarfed by the $53.6 trillion in financial assets held by households and nonprofit groups, including some $6.9 trillion in deposit accounts and $1 trillion in money-market funds."

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/20...

coasterfan

I have a better idea. Why not start asking rich folks to pay taxes at the rates they did in the 1950's, a time of American Prosperity? Instead of 75-90%, they now pay a 1/4 that amount, AND don't pay taxes at all on investment income. Why are we still giving free subsidies to Big Oil? They seem to be doing just fine, and would seem to be the last people who would need govt help. Yet, the GOP way is to continue to coddle the fat cats, and make things increasingly more difficult for the middle class. Simple math folks: if GOP really wants to fix the deficit, we all know where the money to do so can be found.

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