Perkins schools to cut teachers, staff

The Perkins school board is set to trim at least $12 million from its five-year budget in two rounds of staff cuts and programming reductions.
Alissa Widman Neese
Feb 20, 2013

 

The first round, unveiled Monday, will be permanent.

The second round can be reversed, but only if voters approve a May emergency operating levy, superintendent Jim Gunner said.

To watch videos from the Monday meeting, click HERE and HERE.

For more on the plans, pick up a copy of Wednesday's Register. See the proposed cuts below.

Perkins Schools positions cut on March 13, regardless of levies in May     
Furry Elementary School: $250,000
•Two teachers
•One of three Little Pirates units
•Paraprofessionals for Little Pirates

Meadowlawn Elementary School: $150,000
•One-and-a-half teachers
•Reduction in office aid hours
Briar Middle School: $600,000
•Eight-and-a-half teachers (one in 2014, one in 2015)

Perkins High School: $550,000 to $600,000
•Five teachers
•One secretary
•Several paraprofessionals
•Possible reductions in business, family consumer science, physical education and health departments
District Office: $1 million
•One communications director in 2015
•One students services software
•One-and-a-half secretaries
•One-half school psychologist
•Busing for junior high and high school students living within a mile of campus in 2015

Other areas for possible cuts if May levies fail (minimum $600,000 in cuts needed for 2013-14 school year)
•All Little Pirates units
•Switch from full-day to half-day kindergarten
•Elementary gifted program
•Elementary and middle school guidance counselors
•Elementary and middle school art, physical education and music teachers
•All middle school foreign language programs, teaming, athletics and extracurriculars
•All high school non-essential staff members, athletics, busing and extracurriculars
•High school athletic director and athletic secretary
•High school French and Mandarin Chinese classes

Want to go?
What: Special Perkins school board meeting to discuss district cuts
When: 7:30 p.m. March 6
Where: Perkins High School, Room 805
 

Comments

gyrocartfluffikins
tiredofthecrap

Edison needs to do the same

CAST THE FIRST STONE

yes indeed toc

dwa9995294

Is this a scare tactic Mr. Gunner? I hope not because if it is you have killed the levy before it is on the ballot. If you need to make cuts then we don't need a new school.

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BW1

The number one priority of the school administration is servicing Gunner's edifice complex with a shiny new school.

Tsu Dho Nimh

Pulling out the big guns...if you don't pass the levy, you might need to open enroll your high school child in the district to the north!

bigbirdblue

Hey why didnt they put money in the school instead of doing a brand new stadium. education should be more important

goodtime1212

Bigbirdblue. I have been asking that also. And if they knew the school was in such bad shape why did they spend all the money to move the BOE in the bldg.?

VoteYES

The school save money moving the BOE to the high school!

PerkRes555

The Stadium was donated by 50% of the public. The rest of the funds were fundraised by the athletic boosters. The only money that came from the school was the cost that it would have taken to repair the old stadium.

Azure Ray

Let's not forget about the $bazillion school.

richrs

The first cut that needs to be made is Gunner!

HoMeMaKeR2005

AGREED!

Good 2 B Me

Can we do a vote of no confidence?

GARY1945

There is a beautiful school to the north that is only half full, so it’s time to wake up.

KnuckleDragger

That will never happen, unless you are talking about people enrolling their kids at St. Mary's.

VoteYES

No one will enroll their kids to smcc! They do not compare to education!

IT'S ME

Why don't they look for pledges from local businesses kind of like they did for the new stadium? Each class room could have a sign above the door "This Classroom Sponsored by"
I think it's funny about not having any sports, WHY WAS ALL THAT MONEY SPENT on that stadium? I dont care where it all came from, if things were this bad it shouldn't have been built!

PerkRes555

The school district only contributed the amount of money that it would have took to repair the old stadium. The rest of the money was through public donations and fundraisers.

underthebridge

Is it true that the Athletic Boosters only raised 75% of their promised amount and that the BOE loaned them the last 25%? That would be in addition to the 50% of funds that came from taxpayers.

goodtime1212

Then why the hell didnt they just repaire the old stadium, put the money they moved arond ( and now want us to replace )into fixing the school they knew was in bad shape??? NO TRUST

VoteYES

Why repair what is going to need to be replaced again not far off in the distance? For you to deny the schools are in bad shape have you been in the buildings?

KnuckleDragger

All those proposed cuts and I only see one administrator (communications director) on the list. If they got rid of the vice principals and had the middle school share the high school principal, they could save nearly $500K just in wages and benefits. Aren't you glad now that they built a brand new stadium so that they could threaten doing away with sports? All this so Gunner can have his new school complex. As a Perkins Alum I say, "who the heck hired this guy?"

Perkins2060

Fire Gunner now and vote NO!

PerkRes555

Please don't vote no, you are only hurting the kids.

Perkins2060

LOL! Good one!

JACKEL

You need help,you are talking to your self !HaHa

underthebridge

Great idea Knuckledragger.

Hurley

I own rental property on both sides of Perkins Avenue. In Sandusky we pay 2.4% of FMV in annual taxes and in Perkins we pay 1.8% of FMV in taxes (Huron is 1.6%).

If you break out the school levy portion of the taxes it 1.9% for Sandusky Schools and 0.9% for Perkins Schools (Huron 1.0%). So a Sandusky resident pays over twice per dollar of home value for education costs as a Perkins resident.

The costs per student is very comparable for all the Erie County schools. If the Perkins levy passes their budget per student will still not be in top 20% for the county, but if it fails it will be in the bottom 20%.

Perkins2060

Keep in mind the value of homes in Perkins are higher than the value of the same size home in Sandusky.

PutKidsFirst

They won't be if this levy doesn't pass and Perkins can't offer the same quality of education to their students. You won't want to live here, and no one will want to buy your home.

bobshumway92

I'm not selling and I would never get near the over inflated rate the county shows. So it sounds to me like the upcoming levy failures will do me some good by lowering the over inflated tax value of my home which will lower my taxes. I can't wait until these levies both fail, and they will. Cha ching!

PutKidsFirst

Might as well move to Hancock Street, then. If money is all you're concerned about, I'm sure that's what you'll get in a couple of years and you won't even have to move!

bobshumway92

You sound like Gunner with your juvenile scare tactics. The voters in Perkins Township are wise to these tactics.

KnuckleDragger

Let me guess, you are one of the teachers that is about to be layed off? You should change your moniker to PutOEAteachersfirst.

VoteYES

Great point! People saying no to the levy expect a great school program! However, you need to support the school you can't have both!

Outofwork

NO ONE will want to buy a house in Perkins, Margaretta, Edison, BLAH BLAH BLAH--- NO PROBLEM-- as it's been stated in other blogs, NO ONE WILL WANT TO TEACH THERE EITHER! So all these areas will be a GHOST TOWN I GUESS ...... Where is everyone going to go??? WHAT A JOKE! Live within your means, times are TOUGH, MOST don't have it to give......

KnuckleDragger

Also lets not forget that about 80% of residential property in Sandusky are rentals. It is easy to vote yes on a levy when you are on Metro, won't have to absorb the increase, and have no skin in the game. That is the difference between Perkins and Sandusky. It's harder to pass a levy because people in Perkins will feel the affects directly whereas a renter on Metro in Sandusky will have that cost absorbed by the taxpayers.

Outofwork

Landlords in Sandusky need to RAISE THE RENT when a levy is passed. Either the tenants will start voting THEIR pocket book, or START PAYING for what they vote for!

Dutigas

Every year it's the same, Gunner wants more.. people are tired of his lies!!if he needs to make any reductions in jobs, then he can start with his own.

devilsadvocate

Well, I am new to Perkins and I am not sure I have the story correct so feel free to correct me. 1. They put a levy on for a new school and it failed. Voters said no. 2. They are building a school using some funds they found. 3. Now they need new funds because the other funds are building a school building? If that is true, then the voters need to see who is not following their wishes. Somebody (the board?) voted for all of this. Also, they are cutting sports with that new stadium. (Maybe they can rent it out?) And all day Kindergarten. The open enrollment students will be leaving (thus creating more revenue problems) or current Perkins kids will leave (and their parents won't vote for the levy) because students will want sports and parents will want the day care. Sounds like scare tactics to me.

Perkins2060

Gunner needs to be let go now!

streak

The taxpayers in Perkins have to be sick. How can you build a stadium that was partially funded by taxpayers 3 months ago and then turn around have this mess.

Perkins2060

It's Gunner! He just laid down the law with the teachers union. Cant wait to see how they react!

Resident51

Keep the money in your operating budget rather than transfer to PI to build your dream school. You will have money to operate. That simple.

Darkhorse

It is what it is. Let the layoffs begin.

Perkins2060

Gunners Football Field of Dreams. If you build it, you can't use it.

fredinperkins

I did not see the elimination of the retirement "pickup" that the taxpayers provide for the superintendent and "treasurer". That could help trim your costs by approximately $20,000. Please disregard if the BOE has already implemented this cost cutting measure.

PerkRes555

As a Perkins Parent it disheartens me to see the negativity. I think we have the best teachers and staff around. My kids get so much from going to Perkins that is is a shame to see the cuts happen. Perkins is the best school district around and it has the reputation in the state. As parents we need to support the school and our children.

Resident51

We don't need to support your new school though. And an "effective" rating is hardly the best school around.

Just Saying

Bingo! Perkins used to consistently score Excellent Ratings, but our most recent score was Effective - and that has nothing to do with the shape of our school buildings or football field. Curious to know how much it does have to do with the implementation of Open Enrollment.

And I see they are letting a secretary go at the High School - sure hope it's the snotty one!

Perkins2060

Interesring point about open enrollment bringing down our academic rating. I never thought of that. I tend to believe it does have something to do with it now that you brought it up.

Mallory01

I would like to know what the ratio is for the open enrollment. Are you seriously thinking that the open enrollment students are bringing the scores down? That's interesting.... Or, do you mean those wonderful teachers can only teach their own students? Hhmmm

Azure Ray

With so many kids in the classroom, it must be hard to single out any students. I doubt that is happening, Mallory01. With the cuts, the classes will only get larger. Individual attention to students will be even more difficult. Think lecture halls at college.

bluedot

Hmmmm....

bluedot

I did not attend the schools in this area however, I find it amusing that people who live in the same (TOWN) across the street from each other who have children in some cases that attend both schools think that they are better than each other! It's nuts and funny at the same time. I hear about open enrollment and how these (open enrolled) students must be the problem for everything that is going wrong. Hey why not blame them. They live in the same city and county but not the (township) so they must be the culprits. Those darn opened enrolled students who by the way come with a hefty cash bonus must be the reason the school system is in such disarray. Stop kidding yourself people. You are like a bunch of lions who are constantly chasing their own tails. It has got to be exhausting.

HoMeMaKeR2005

@Bluedot.... my thoughts exactly!!

VoteYES

Check out other areas ratings in the district they are up there!

Outofwork

Don't take this the wrong way--- but EDISON STAFF "KNOWS THEY ARE THE BEST"! I don't know about academics, but PERKINS HANDS DOWN has better ATHLETICS! I'm curious, when was the last time Edison won their conference for football or basketball???

local man

I want full disclosure on all administration costs outside of the actual school buildings gunner and everyone tiered below him in the building before I decide whether to vote for the levy.

Roz1110

You can ask for them through public request disclosures at the administration building.

PerkRes555

Perkins School District has the best schools around because of the teachers and the parents that care. It is a shame to see all of the negativity and misinformed people just spouting off. Go to the meetings, be informed. As a community we will hurt the kids if the levy fails.

Perkins2060

Who are you to say we are misinformed because we're voting no??? I think YOU'RE misinformed by voting yes and spouting off!

goodtime1212

Some of us are ALOT more informed then you think.

thinktwice

Is this the same Perkins everyone flocked to in the past few years? Well maybe not the same now, but just sayin'?

fifteenthgreen

Good job trimming the fat....I mean making the necessary budget cuts. Didn't see any cuts that would truly hinder a child from attaining their academic diploma. Now keep cutting the waste and you should reach your end goal of a balanced budget without the necessity of receiving any additional funds from the taxpayers. Sharpen those pencils!!! Good work Gunner and BOE. Psh!

FormerPirateDru...

As an alumnus of PHS, an educator, a voter, and a community member, it saddens me greatly to have watched Dr. Gunner and the BOE run this school district into the ground. Why on earth homeowners should have to foot the bill, while the BOE lets businesses (Kalahari for example) get off without contributing their part to the education of our youth. Now, suddenly, it has been realized that more money has been spent that could be afforded on investments in facilities and programs that have very little direct influence on the quality of the education of our youth. "Let's threaten the homeowners with further devaluation of our children's education so they give us money." No way. Let's get rid of Gunner and start worrying about quality education. -- Eyes With Pride

Perkins2060

Very very well said!

goodtime1212

CANT agree more!!

KnuckleDragger

Kalahari? All the buildings that generate revenue are in Huron Twp (Huron School District). Only part of the parking lot is in Perkins Twp, which is the reason that not much in the way of tax revenue is generated for Perkins.

bobshumway92

Wisen up Perkins Residents and give the board and Gunner a big thumbs down and a big
no vote.

beekspubs

Gunner goes I will vote yes.....Gunner stays I say no way! How does the BOE like that threat. If you can come at us tax payers why can't we come back at you with the same type of demands. BOE get ride of Gunner and get a yes...... Gunner stays get a NO! Board votes on this before we vote on the election! There is plenty of time before the primary for this to take place. Let's see what you do and that will tell the BOE what We " The Taxpayers" will do!

whocares

I am sure the tax increases will be greater than the average cost of living increases the tax payer will get. Once again lowering their standard of living. But the government employees will have theirs.

bobshumway92

Sounds like they will be getting rid of some young teachers and will probably give the ones who are fortunate enough to stay a big raise.

JHudson320

I hope that the community will realize that this levy passing is in the best interest for the students. Without it, Perkins will not be Perkins anymore and will not have the same reputation that it has now.

bobshumway92

It's already not Perkins with open enrollment. It's Erie County Local School District with the majority of the funds paid for by Perkins homeowners.

Azure Ray

Most districts in the area are open enrollment. Schools aren't what they used to be in general. The funding system for schools is completely whacked, and - unfortunately - the community, educators, and, most importantly, students are the ones who are going to be hurt the most. Don't take this issue up with the board or the teachers, take it up with the government and the fact that they are doing everything they can to break down the public education system.

PutKidsFirst

I understand some of the feelings that people have towards Dr. Gunner and the district's decisions.. But what I don't understand is not putting those feelings aside to provide for the students of Perkins and do what is best for them. As an educator and a parent, it breaks my heart to see the negativity from the community. This is not about punishing anyone, this is about what is doing best for our kids. Perkins is known far and wide for the education they provide and for preparing their students for college and life in general. Without this levy, Perkins will SURELY lose its amazing reputation and YOUR HOME, YOUR COMMUNITY, & YOUR CHILDREN'S EDUCATION will GREATLY be affected. Without a wonderful school district like Perkins, people will not want to move to Perkins, they will not want to buy your homes, and they will not want to send their kids to Perkins. So, if you won't vote "yes" for the students and the community - vote YES for yourself. Do not use this as an opportunity to punish those that have had to make these hard decisions, because you will be punishing yourself also.

We need this levy. The school needs it, the students need it, and YOU need it.

bobshumway92

For Perkins kids? Try, it's for Erie County kids.

PutKidsFirst

They still offer the best education in the area. Just because there are open enrollment kids, doesn't mean that they are bringing the district down. Some of those kids are some of the brightest students at Perkins.

bobshumway92

Then let their parents move here and pay taxes here. Vote no.

bluedot

Their parents don't need to live in your township they already reside in the same city as you(Sandusky). And they don't come empty handed they come with money that your district is in desparate need of. Did you forget that part? Hmmmmmmmmmmmm.....

Fromthe419

If you ask the parents of Edison and Norwalk, the say they are the best schools in the area. It's the emotional attachment to the school that they are playing on. It's not about the kids, it's about getting what they want.

KnuckleDragger

You notice that PKF said they were in educator. You can take this to mean that it is not about the kids, it is about their job. You can bet if the levey does pass, the union will make sure that the teachers get a big cut of it.

PutKidsFirst

Yes, I am an educator but my job is not at risk here. Honestly, just thinking about the kids AND yes, the teachers at Perkins that care deeply for their students and want what is best for them.

goodtime1212

The trouble with what you are saying is, there is NO trust. so we vote yes. (I wont be by the way) Mr. Gunner and the board now will be in charge of all the money we voted yes for. They have already proven they can not be trusted. Thats what this is about.

bobshumway92

Vote no.

PutKidsFirst

We get it - you're voting no. That doesn't mean that people can't try to see the positive side of all of this. It doesn't mean that I agree with every decision made, it simply means I've decided to look past it so that the education of Perkins students don't suffer. As cheesy as it is - Education IS the future. And I feel so much sadness that people don't believe that and don't seem to care.

bobshumway92

No positives here. Education is the future, and it will continue on in the existing buildings in the future.

PutKidsFirst

I believe they received the computers from a technology grant.

crazyrick

You know I'm in business for myself and I always spend more than I have coming in.
Sign contract's with differant union's and sub contractor's and always give them what they want,and if I don't have enough money I just overcharge the customer.
Wake up !!! goverment employee's and the way they do business are robbing us blind tax payer's.
It's going on all over the country, remember Madison Wis. Over 10 garbage men making over 80 grand a year. Its all about collective bargining with your money. Big wages,pension funds paying them more when they retire than when they were working. the best of the best health insurance, vacation pay,sick pay. WHAT NEXT Want your toenails clipped once a month and have the taxpayer pay the bill. Give me 2 years and I'll straighten that budget out. LOL
All the wast ,overspending, when I get done with them they will want to treat me like Jimmy Hoffa. LOL
Oh BTW if your one of those goverment employee's that's NOT getting all the perks, welcome to the club.

There you go again

Did you go to Perkins? You must have missed the spelling and punctuation curriculum. Wow, that was painful to read.

KnuckleDragger

LOL. Teaching is one of the few jobs that you will retire and make as much if not more than (with COLA) than you did when you were working. Time to get rid of that retirement plan, we could save billions.

Wowwww123

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OBVIOUSLY someone who is appreciative of the education system....

bobshumway92

That's all you got? When it comes to the voting booth all it takes is to fill out a little circle that says no.

OBVIOUSLY someone who thinks they can win votes by degrading someone and thinking they are some Harvard educated elitist.

9299

Open enrollment is not hard to understand; however, the level of misinformation on here about it is out of bounds. Every kid who comes in to any open enrollment district (and I think all districts in Erie County are open enrollment now) brings approx. $5700 in state money from their home district with them. So, Perkins residents, those open enrollees are helping increase revenues to the district which have allowed us to go more years without being asked for a levy and have kept the amount of the levy requested lower. If you want to be mad about where your Perkins tax dollars are going with students, then you should be mad at the Perkins students who are leaving the district to attend school in other districts because the state money that would be coming to Perkins goes with them to the other district. And you certainly can't support an EHOVE levy since now your tax dollars are educating students from three counties (talk about open enrollment). So, as a business person if I have the option of accepting 400 open enrollment kids into my district and they bring over $3 million dollars with them while losing money from the kids who are leaving, I take the $3 mil. In fact, if the demand is there and the public won't support a levy, I line up more temporary classrooms and invite more open enrollment (another 100 kids = an additional $570,000 gross). Want the district to operate like a business, then let it operate like a business and increase revenues where possible (and districts are pretty limited when it comes to generating more revenue-that's why the funding is so screwed up). Plus, the governor has publicly stated that in two years districts are going to lose more state funding (Perkins will lose another several million dollars).

bobshumway92

Let their parents move to the township.

Edwin Ison

What is the amount per child to educate a student at Perkins?
Much more than $5700!
So each open enrolled student actually costs the district money (more than $3000)...it's simple math. The Perkins taxpayers pay the difference between the state amount ($5700), and the actual cost to educate one student, a net loss per open enrolled student.
The open enrolled student brings additional revenue to the district, just not enough to cover the cost per student without watering down the education of Perkins kids.

Resident51

Clearly YOU do not understand open enrollment. If it brings in $5700, yet the expenditures per pupil at Perkins are over $10,000....who pays the extra? ME!

Open enrollment ONLY makes sense if you fill seats. This is not what Perkins has done.

Truth or Fiction

Unfortunately most are missing the point. The Perkins levy is for operating expenses - salaries, books, etc. It is about education. It is about the youth and their future.

I understand that emotions are running high. I can even understand that some in the District feel betrayed but it serves no greater good to deny students the opportunity for a better life.

Your anger over moving operational funds is at best uninformed and movement of those funds will not build a new school. This levy does not build a new school, it helps maintain the level of education you have come to know and expect.

bobshumway92

Should have thought about that before they spent all that money on the laptops.

citizen

The Perkins levy is for operating expenses. Technically, yes that is correct. That is because after votes twice said they would not pay for new buildings, Gunner and the Board, MOVED OPERATING FUNDS INTO PERMANENT IMPROVEMENT FUNDS.

If Gunner had not unethically moved money that was to be used towards educational expenses of the district (textbooks, faculty, academic programs, extracurriculars etc) into a fund to build his new campus (that was twice rejected) these educational cuts WOULD NOT BE NECESSARY.

donutshopguy

Truth,

This operating levy is half about replacing those funds moved from outside millage to inside millage and half about new operating funding. Unless Mr. Gunner was lying to me during our meeting those funds combined with other inside millage will build the school without public vote. That was the purpose of the the transfer of millage.

As he stated to me " we are taking a calculated risk " moving these funds. We will need to replace these funds in a future levy. Well, the future is now and that's why you have over a 10 mill levy for operations. The BOE and superintendent are hoping the taxpayers will vote for an operating levy because they new they couldn't get a building levy to pass.

This process is nothing more than a shell game between the administration and the public. The end game is to build a new school without having the public voting on the building.

Now, teachers will be laid off and the educational process will be dismantled to facilitate a new school.

"We are taking a calculated risk".

Lets see how that works out.

Roz1110

There are two levies to be put on the ballot. One for the operating levy that hasn't been passed (so they say since 2000) and one for the new school. Money was moved (called inside mileage) to be put to the new school. They took 3mil and moved it. And isn't that what we are short in the operational funds. Someone please correct me if I have my facts messed up.

Wald

Gunner has proven time and again he isn't to be trusted with our money. Moving funds, prioritizing football stadiums over school buildings, open enrollment, and all around malfeasance are why I and my family are voting NO.

9299

The superintendent does not act on his own. He makes recommendations to an elected school board who are all reasonably intelligent individuals and are looking to do what's best for the community and the students (not an easy balancing act, I might add). All actions are discussed and debated in open meetings. A decision may be made that is against our own opinion (of course, those criticizing the most could also run for the school board), but in the interest of CIVIL debate, I don't believe we need to accuse people of deceit, conspiracies that don't exist, "malfeasance", lying, and we're certainly not entitled to stating "facts" which are incorrect.

bobshumway92

So funds weren't moved? We don't have open enrollment? We didn't build a new stadium before a new school? Seem like facts to me.

bobshumway92

Both levies have a snowballs chance in you know where of passing.

bobshumway92

But don't worry. These losers will have them on ballots two more times this year

citizen

So let's get this straight... Gunner and board twice ask citizens to raise their taxes to fund building a new campus for Perkins Schools. This was twice, by overwhelming majority, rejected by the township's taxpayers.

What do Gunner and the Board do? Move money that was in an operating fund and to be spent on educational/operating expenses... (ya know, to actually educate the district's students such as textbooks, technology, faculty, academic programs, extracurriculars etc) into a fund to build Gunner's new school.

Then, shockingly to Gunner, they don't have money to run the district!

Voters reject raised taxes for new buildings. Voters again reject raised taxes for new buildings. Gunner and Board move operating funds into a fund to build a new building regardless. They now must go back to the taxpayers to raise taxes just to run the district/educate students. And if the levy/tax increase doesn't pass, Gunner has the audacity to threaten that there will be no more full-time kindergarten. Or no more gym class or art class for elementary and middle school. Or no more guidance counselors. Or no athletic director. But, Gunner is getting his new school regardless... Perkins just won't have any money to employ anyone to run the brand new campus! What a joke!

Vote no and encourage the Board to do the ethical thing and move the operating/educational money back where it belongs... in educating the student's of the district....NOT building a grandiose new campus.

bobshumway92

Don't forget after they build it they will come back for even more money to operate it!

sanduskymom02

I myself am a PHS alumni, but my kids attend Sandusky City Schools and I just find it funny how everyone wants to say that the Sandusky open enrolled students are the reason the school system is failing and everyone is so quick to say move to Perkins if you want your kids to attend there and pay the taxes. Funny thing is my kids did the open enrollment for almost 2 years and they ASKED to come back to Sandusky because they liked it better! AND as far as the school receiving money and us not paying taxes is a crock because not only does Perkins receive more money from the state for each of these kids than one person pays in taxes that live in Perkins and we do still pay taxes for Sandusky!!!!! And NO my kids are NOT trouble makers or "ghetto" like everyone ASSumes these kids are they are actual honor roll students who excell at school...yes even when they were at Perkins!

KnuckleDragger

While that may not be the case for your family. 80% of the students at Sandusky receive free/reduced lunches which means most of these kids are members of the non-producing class of Sandusky (unless you are talking about fatherless children). You can bet that they aren't paying any property taxes to support the schools. They are voting for levies that the landlord and the taxpayers who are subsidizing their METRO are paying. So you see, for about 80% of the kids at Sandusky, the workers and retirees in Perkins are footing the bill for their education too.

EZOB

He's blowing smoke. The first thing they always want to cut is services and teachers. Go ahead, You are way, way over-staffed already.
1) Lay-oof Gunner. You can keep 3 lower paid teachers on his wages.
2) Terminate all the double dippers.
3-10) Don't believe anything these people tell you. My bet is that after the voting in May on the levies (Fail or Pass) the township workers and the policman will be hired back. These are scare tactics and the article Andy (Sr Reporter) did don't add up for Perkins Township. I don't think there is a million dollar shortage. We have been mislead on the Schools, Police station (New and Old) and those in charge have totally lost credibility with the majority of the taxpayers. The voting will probably be close but I think the levies will all fail. If this were a November election they would be defeated by a land slide. They are well aware of the negativity and that's why they chose a May election.

ChrisGasteier

Questions and response to rww859 at 2:01 p.m. on Feb. 19:

1. Will the current open enrollment students stay at Perkins next year or are they being sent back to their home schools?

At this point in time there is no plan to send open enrollment students back to any school. We treat all students at Perkins Schools as Perkins students. Students in open enrollment must reapply every year. Financially, ending open enrollment would eliminate approximately three million, five hundred thousand dollars annually from our revenues. That net amount is roughly equivalent to seven mils of property tax.

2. If open enrollment was used to fill grades that needed 4-5 children, why were there 456 open enrollment students?

I believe there is some misunderstanding between teacher class size and grade level sizes. At the elementary level, individual teacher class sizes are intentionally kept smaller than middle school or high school. We have attempted to utilize the space available in our buildings to maximize the efficiency of our teachers and our district. This meant we could allow more students through open enrollment in some grade levels than others. If you took an average of four more students per class and average of eight classes per grade level times twelve grade levels than add another fifty for kindergarten, it is a total of four hundred and thirty-four using the lower of the two numbers. In the beginning of the school year Perkins had over eighty students on an open enrollment waiting list. When the demand has been even greater than filling existing classrooms, the district has considered adding an additional teacher to create a new class, such as kindergarten. Again, 25 open enrollment students would bring in approximately $140,000. This is more than the cost to add an additional teacher. No Perkins residents are refused a spot in school due to open enrollment.

3. How many teachers were hired for the Open Enrollment?

The equivalent of seven and ½ full time educator positions were hired. The district added a teacher at each grade level from K through 5 to address open enrollment student requests, a ½ time high school social studies teacher, a ½ time Spanish teacher and a ½ time Little Pirate position. Total estimated annual cost for these teachers is approximately $500,000, while open enrollment students will bring almost $3.5 million in revenue annually.

4. Do teachers still get full tuition reimbursement for all the classes they take?

No. Teachers working toward their Master’s degree get reimbursed up to two thousand dollars a year. Teachers at or beyond their Master’s Degree get reimbursed up to one thousand dollars a year. State law requires teachers to take the equivalent of at least two three-credit classes every five years to remain licensed.

5. What percentage do teachers pay for their health insurance?

Teachers are currently paying eight percent of their premium and have gone to a higher deductible of fifteen hundred dollars annually.

6. What percentage do teachers pay for their contribution to State Teachers Retirement System?

All teachers pay the state legal required ten percent.

7. Is the superintendent really getting mileage to drive to Perkins?

No. Law prohibits reimbursing a school employee’s mileage from home to work. The superintendent is given a monthly stipend of $300 to cover all mileage expenses for using his personal car to travel for his job. In a given typical month, the superintendent travels to a variety of state level meetings in Columbus, Marion, Findlay and Bowling Green. He also travels between the schools and to local district events on a regular basis. If we were to pay the superintendent the standard IRS mileage rate of $.55/mile for his professional meetings the cost would exceed the monthly stipend agreed to by the Board.

bobshumway92

Only 10% toward their requirement??? VOTE NO!

Trustafarian

10% of wages. It is matched by employer at 10.5% +/- depending on which retirement plan is chosen. For further details check this site: https://www.strsoh.org/new/1a02....

Tell it how it is.

10% of their salary idiot. So if you made 50,000 you would forced to place 5,000 in your retirement.

PerkinsVoter

I see that your property tax dropped too.

Trump

Chris - if you moved the $'s back where they belong (inside/outside), eliminated open enrollment (thus eliminating the extra positions that go with it), designed a new school based on a capacity of no open enrollment and keep all current programs (ie., STEM) in place, what would be the annual cost per $100k home?

goodtime1212

TRUMP, the money they moved is gone, mayebe the communication guy can answer ware it went. I have heard ware it when but that is just rumor.

Trump

My understanding is it's not gone - just moved to a budget that can't be used for Operations but can be used to build a new school.

Resident51

My question for Chris Gasteier: If the levy fails in May, will Perkins still build a new school?

goodtime1212

If they were to deduct what the ever the milage is from his home to the school from the 300.00 I would bet the other driving would work out for the $.55 Anyone else get paid to drive to work?

brwright

I think we need to cut Mr. Gunner. That would save us allot of money and financial woes!

donutshopguy

Great to see Mr. Gasteier, the schools head of communications answering questions. Hope he will continue to answer questions presented to him on the forum. It's a much more open process than the limited time offered at a school board meeting.

Folks, you have a great opportunity to have your questions answered on an open forum by a school representative. Please use a little common sense and civility with your questions. Don't shut down this communication avenue.

JERRY from SANDUSKY

Lay off GUNNER and save a lot of money

Mallory01

When are some of the "low-life ghetto" open enrolled students or their parents going to defend themselves? I know of a few of these open enrolled students and their parents are highly involved giving their all to support a system that does nothing but degrade them and their children. If I were one of those parens, I would be highly offended. Funny how everything starts off about the children but ends up being what side of Perkins Ave. you live on. How typical! :(

bluedot

It is mind blowing to read these blogs! Are you Perkins Township 90210 wannabes all nuts! We are talking about common sense people...and what is the point of demoralizing the children who are apparently helping to keep your schools afloat. What happened to make you believe that one side of the city is soooooooooooo much better than the other! Do we really need to get Dr. Phil involved in this madness! I am not from this area but the parts of Perkins Township that I have seen are definitely not Rodeo Drive! LOL

itypedformiles

I have no idea how anyone could be for this.

Smcc Alum

Maybe the kids that we lost to open enrollment might come back :D

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booster

Mr Gasteier,
I am glad to see the direct answers. I know that these forums become a place a bile and dissent but I am glad to see them being used as a place for promotion and discussion.
You have a large job ahead of you to turn around the negative opinions that people have but it is good to see you separating the misinformation and folklore from the realities. I think the open school meetings have been a good idea but like the use of this forum, it may be wise to "take it to the streets." Perhaps, head to places like Jolly Donut in the mornings or McDonald's at the mall, Bob Evan's, etc. These seem like places where some of the "ol' boys" hang out in the mornings and debate local politics. Jump in their circle and present the opposing view.
There must be a number of places like this that you could get invited to. They are not coming to you...you may need to go to them.

goodtime1212

one more time, how do YOU know we have not gone to the meetings?

booster

Double post in error

PerkinsVoter

Check the property taxes of all of the school officials and boosters and you will see that there property taxes took a dive. My taxes increased and I now pay $400 more to the schools than last year. Then they come on here and call me self centered because I tell them of my plight. The people who got the big tax breaks pay less to the schools while I am forced to pay more against my will. When I run out of money and don't the my taxes the sherrif will come and kick me out of my house and sell my house at a sherrifs sale. The people that come here and want me to vote for more school taxes and townships are the ones that got tax breaks and pay less taxes to the school. They remind me of when I once was invited to join three other people for dinner at a restaurant which had high prices. I wanted separate checks but the loud mouth of the group told the waitress to put it all on one check and told me that we could divide the bill up later. The loud mouth and another got the most expensive dinners and also ordered expensive wine. I got one of the most cheaper dinners and coffee. When the bill came, it was something like $200 and loud mouth told me that my share would be 1/4 of the bill plus tips which would be over $50. I refused to pay since I got a cheap dinner and no wine. Loud mouth said that we agreed to one check and settle up after. I got up and left $20 on the table for my share and tips and told the waitress before I left what I did. I feel that I should only pay for my share and not another $30 so that loud mouth could order the most expensive meal and expensive wine. I wasn't about to pay another $30 so that the other two people would only pay $50 for a $80 expensive meal and expensive wine. You people who got the tax breaks and pay less taxes are the ones who support more levies and want me to pay more on top of the $400 school tax increase that I was forced to pay against me will. Who is self centered now? I am going broke because my savings are decreasing because of higher taxes and less income for me. I will lose my house sooner when the levy passes. I am going to use those free newspaper ads on Wednesday and start selling off my possessions before I put my house up for sale.

senioritis

booster,
Thank you! Reading these comments, it seems like no one really wants to ask questions. Instead, people just want to bash anything and everything they can. And watch this: I'll probably get bashed for--how did one commenter put it?--"spouting off". And as for the "beautiful school to the north", the environment is different than that of Perkins. That is why a number of students and their parents chose open enrollment at Perkins.

Perkins2060

Then they can choose to move here because we aren't approving either levy to educate their kids!

bluedot

Wow!

donutshopguy

Mr. Gasteier,

Will the new building be built with or without a vote by the general public?
How much millage was moved from outside millage to inside millage?
Does inside millage ever get voted on again by the general public?
How much of the upcoming new operational levy will be used to replace the millage moved to the inside?
Did the school board ever request Mr. Gunner to live in the district?
How much of the total stadium project was funded by private donations?
How much of the total stadium project was paid with taxpayer dollars?

That's my first set of questions. Looking forward to your reply.

Wald

How about an answer to these questions:

Why did Mr. Gunner and the BOE insist on manipulating and moving funds after the voters rejected the last levy?

Why was a new football stadium built when the school buildings were in such dire straits?

I can already predict the spin-doctoring that will go into these answers!

goodtime1212

Has there ever been any bids on just how much it would cost to repair the school, adding on the southside to replace the rely old part that can be tore down? If not, why do they keep saying it will cost to much to fix and add on if they have not reserched it? Not the study the State did, real bids.

ohiocountrygirl

If you really want to help the students, you won't take away things that they love. You're going to take away our sports? What was the point in building a brand new stadium then? You're going to take away teachers? You're messing with people's lives here. As for the possibility of the French program being taken away from the high school, Madame is a wonderful woman, who is a wonderful teacher. I'm a senior at Perkins, in my fourth year of french, and I don't know what I would have done without Madame O'hara-Kropft these past 4 years.

Perkins2060

You better learn Spanish then.

ohiocountrygirl

I chose to learn French for my own, personal reasons. This is my last year here, so it doesn't affect me, however, it does affect other students, who chose NOT to take Spanish. Also, Madame has worked at this school for 16 years. How would you feel if you were a teacher, who had full classes, and has worked at the same place for 16 years, getting pushed out of your spot? They just hired new teachers this year, Why would they do that if we were in so much trouble with our money?

Perkins2060

Try living in the real world without a government job. Happens all the time!

ohiocountrygirl

Just because it's a government job doesn't mean teachers don't love what they do.

Perkins2060

Just because it's a non government job doesn't mean those people don't love what they do. Like I said, happens all the time in the real world.

Fromthe419

How about those workers in Milan that worked for Tenneco that lost their jobs to Mexico, those that worked for CVG in Norwalk that lost their jobs to Mexico and those Ford folks in Castalia that had to either moved to Louisville, Cleveland or lose their job. It is called LIFE, things happen...you adapt or you get left behind. All of this is coming to a head because our nation is bankrupt/broke. The Federal government can't send money to the states, the state can't send as much as they used to the school districts and the taxpayers can't afford to pay more in taxes. This all reminds me of the falling Roman Empire...petty fiefdoms fighting for what ever swag was left. IMHO, they should be teaching only Chinese as that is who we work for now anyway.

bobshumway92

Well said.

sanduskymom

ohiocountrygirl - it is NOT the taxpayer's responsibility to fund things you love. That is your parents responsibility. Perkins taxpayers have been kind enough to support both your academics and your sport interests for many years. Unfortunately, economic times being what they are, people just don't have extra money to throw at schools anymore. Your school's administration chose to fund a stadium instead of using the funds for what was necessary. That's why these levies will not pass. Sports are an expensive distraction to the real purpose of school. How many hours a day do your fellow students spend practicing for sports vs. time spent studying? Kids need a dose of reality here - they can't have everything they want or love. Taxpayers just can't afford it. Focus on your studies and the things that will make you a productive citizen of tomorrow. And really, the age of your building has nothing to do with students' ability to learn or study. I attended college on the east coast in buildings that were 150+ years old...and did just fine!

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