Edison Schools place emergency levy on May ballot

Edison Schools will propose its largest levy option to taxpayers this spring.
Alissa Widman
Feb 2, 2013

School board members agreed Wednesday to place a five-year, 7.9-mill emergency operating levy on the May ballot.

The decision came after a nearly hour-long discussion of four options ranging from 4.9 to 7.9 mills, with board members ultimately concurring the largest option was the only “workable” one.

The levy would generate nearly $1.8 million a year for the district, costing the owner of a $100,000 home about $240 a year.

“Every person I’ve contacted has told me to ask for what we need — we need to go beyond just getting through one year,” board member Jodi Harris said. “It’s not fair to our community or our students.”

The district is projected to run a deficit of nearly $75,000 in the 2013-2014 school year and more than $2.5 million in 2014-2015, according to its five-year forecast. Its budget is about $14 million.

If voters approve the May levy, however, the district could see a surplus of about $894,000 in the 2013-2014 school year and about $209,000 in 2014-2015. The district would still face a deficit of more than $1 million by 2016.

“We’re asking for a bare minimum 7.9 mills — I know it doesn’t sound right,” board member Mark Miller said.

If approved, board members said the funds could possibly eliminate pay-to-play athletic fees and pay for additional elementary school teachers.

“Instead of focusing on cuts for the next couple of years we could focus on students again,” board member Mark Suhanic said. “It’s up to the community to take care of us. We can’t wait for the state to do it any longer.”

About 20 people attended Wednesday’s meeting.

Matt McClester, a Berlin Heights resident and district parent, opened the meeting’s discussion speaking in favor of a 4.9-mill or 5.9-mill levy option. He still remains a
levy advocate after the board’s decision.

“I’ll support any option, but many people I’ve talked to said the best way to get it passed is a smaller levy,” McClester said. “But if 7.9 mills is what’s needed, they’re really in a catch-22.”

The district hasn’t approved an emergency operating levy since May 2005, treasurer Anne Arnold said. Voters most recently rejected a 3.5-mill option in November.

Levy Proposal
Millage: 7.9
Length: Five years
Would generate: $1.8 million a year
Cost: Annual cost to owner of $100,000 home would be about $240
Use: Would pay for day-to-day expenses, including salaries and benefits for employees, utilities, classroom supplies, maintenance of property and buildings, among other services
Note: All figures rounded
Source: Edison Schools
 

Comments

Truth or Fiction

I get your argument. No taxes at any cost! That includes your social security retirement. Don't forget your unemployment benefits. Throw medicare in there for good measure. Nice argument until the truck pulls up at your door.

The argument is flawed as it assumes every school district will adopt the same solution. Using this form of logic there should be no bussing for students as fuel prices increased from $2.00 a gallon in 2008 to $3.60 per gallon in 2013. Your logic would dictate that the district needs to stop bussing students but State Law prevents implementation of your solution. Another area is special needs students. Under your premise, if it costs too much to accomodate the student with special needs they cannot attend school in your district. Sorry, that is also mandated by the State and your district pays for it at the tune of tens of thousands depending on the accomodation required. Maybe you want those families who have children in your district to pay for their children's education ($9,000 annually). Again the State looks dimly on your recommendation.

I understand you feel you have the power at the local level but at whose expense? Unfortunately, it hits the 1,600 students in your district first followed by your property values second. Why? Because no one wants to buy a home in a troubled district! I don't believe that is a good solution and your argument is more Fiction than Fact.

donutshopguy

Truth,

This enormous deficit is my generations responsibility. I do not want to pass on this burden to my kids or grandkids. Cut my SS and medicare. Bring the truck to my door.

It's my responsibility to take care of my kids and grandkids. It's not my responsibility to take care of everyone else.

The local government, state government and federal government look dimly on any proposal that doesn't perpetuates their existence and continued growth.

This deficit spending mindset when it crashes will effect everyone. Some of us who believe in personal responsibility are ready to take on that challenge. Guess you are not.

CrissySnow

Loudly allauds!!!!!

BlueAngel

Edison Local School...AGAINST.. what was that all about on a vote yesterday.. it was on the news I was told and didn't pass...I am out of state until Friday..??

Truth or Fiction

Thank you donutshopguy. You make my point. I don't agree with Federal deficits any more than you do and I certainly don't agree with Federal and State mandates that tell me I have to do something but refuse to provide the funding for it. Where we differ is how to address it. The decline of a school system is NOT the answer. Let me repeat that point. It will NOT do anything to change the $16+ trillion Federal deficit. Your anger at a Federal system gone wild and the method you propose to deal with it will only result in the slow and methodical decline of your school district. Your future, your children's future, and your grandchildren's future will be negatively impacted by your methods. Unfortunate but TRUE!

donutshopguy

Truth,

I cannot change the irresponsible spending on the federal level at this time. I can't change the irresponsible spending at the state level. But, I can effect this bureaucratic entitlement on the local level (county, township and school).

You want to keep kicking the can down the road. You gave no examples how to control this problem even on the local level. I assume you have no problem with a continual increase in your taxes. At what point do you say enough, 70% of your wages, 80% of your wages or all of your wages? I'm saying enough now.

Truth or Fiction

Let's try and look at this another way. Schools do not get a cost of living increase on approved millage. If your property taxes are going up it's because your property was assessed by the county at a higher value. If your property is assessed at a higher value, the school district does not get an increase (but it will maintain the millage amount should your property assessment go down). Unlike the federal government, schools cannot run a deficit without dire consequences. First year of deficit the district must go to the county auditor and ask for an advance on next year's millage allocation. That means there is less money the second year to be allocated because you already took from Peter to pay Paul in the previous year. Now Peter is upset so after the second time going back to the Auditor there's no more advances. The cycle of cuts, levy issues, larger class sizes, and more cuts continues until the district is forced into drastic measures such as 4-day school weeks, 5-hour school days, reduced bussing, no extracurricular activities, etc. Millage that at one time was small is now high making it harder to pass a levy. Those students who can - leave further reducing funding received from the State on a per pupil basis (Sandusky City schools can explain the impact as they lost to Perkins because of open enrollment)! Everyone in the community suffers.

I don't believe Edison has an income tax funding their school district so it is limited to the property tax millage approved by the voters. I think the last time the district approved a new levy was in 2005 so eight years without any increase but millions of dollars cut to the district in State funding. So the innocent suffer for the price of a large screen T.V. Not good - not good at all.

CrissySnow

Truth-
You do understand that the tax payers are being asked to fork over the cash, right? And there exists that persistent burr in the ass of Edison voters that involves teacher retirement contribution, raises, and contracts being posted on the school website. Right? if there is nothing "secret" then why not post it? It would resolve many taxpayer doubts if we coud read it for ourselves. I realize we are not as smart as teachers are smart, but some of us have MBA's and beyond.

Truth or Fiction

Crissy-
So what is so out-of-line with Edison schools? Current tax rates in Sandusky are at 40.5 mils. Magaretta is at 32.7, Perkins at 26.7 and asking for more. Edison is at 26.4. Pretty low when compared with other districts.

Teacher salaries base (starting) to 20 yrs + Masters in the area are as follows:
EHOVE - $38,817 to $82,376
Perkins - 36,094 to 72,045
Sandusky - 34,820 to 67,500
Huron - 34,300 to 69,250
Edison - 34,000 to 66,400

Edwin Ison

Are your numbers for the old contract? Or the new contract?

See why both should be posted for review on the school web page? :)

Edwin Ison

The old contract is here.

http://www.serb.state.oh.us/sect...

I'm awaiting the new contract. Request your own copy by email Sheila.Farthing@SERB.state.oh.us

Outofwork

Interesting that you should point this out, have you looked on Buckeyeinstitute.org at the WAGES reported to the STATE OF OHIO? Please share the numbers with us as to who is making such little monies because here is what I found on the above site for 2011:

YEAR NAME SCHOOL SALARY-NOT INCLUD.BENEFITS HRS. DAYS

2011 snook, david h. berlin-milan local $107,326.00 8.00 260
2011 goodwin, jeffrey w. $96,665.00 8.00 250
2011 spriggs, nicole l. 84,582.00 8.00 260
2011 miller, diane l. 83,871.00 8.00 225
2011 smith, cory j. 80,317.00 8.00 235
2011 feld, janet l. 71,077.00 8.00 187
2011 lafene, lynn a. 71,077.00 8.00 187
2011 smith, constance l. 69,830.00 8.00 187
2011 wallrabenstein, shirley k. 69,830.00 8.00 187
2011 stanforth, joseph r. 69,073.00 8.00 187
2011 dow, patricia s. 68,583.00 8.00 187
2011 neel, patrice l. 68,583.00 8.00 187
2011 campana, timothy s. 68,271.00 8.00 187
2011 hermes jr., david o. 68,234.00 8.00 225
2011 shrader, holly k. 66,712.00 8.00 187
2011 bickley, anne l. 64,842.00 8.00 187
2011 nemire, ronald a. 64,842.00 8.00 187
2011 deehr, julie a. 63,595.00 8.00 187
2011 moyer, michael p. 63,595.00 8.00 187
2011 naugle, anne m. 63,595.00 8.00 187
2011 wilbur, dora l. 63,595.00 8.00 187
2011 carrier-vajda, cynthia 63,283.00 8.00 187
2011 morgan, dale g. 63,283.00 8.00 167
2011 roberts, margaret c. 63,283.00 8.00 187
2011 grant, lynford c. 62,389.00 8.00 228
2011 kuhl, mary e. 62,348.00 8.00 187
2011 yingling, von m. 62,348.00 8.00 187
2011 cunningham, clyda s. 62,036.00 8.00 187
2011 delamater, deborah a. 62,036.00 8.00 187
2011 lewis, lila a. 62,036.00 8.00 187
2011 lilje, barbara e. 62,036.00 8.00 187
2011 davis, kelli j. 61,725.00 8.00 187
2011 fraylick, bonnie j. 61,725.00 8.00 187
2011 gilliam, michelle e. 61,725.00 8.00 187
2011 scott, pamela l. 61,725.00 8.00 187
2011 stanfield, dean r. 61,725.00 8.00 187
2011 emody, michael e. 61,475.00 8.00 187
2011 finn, gail e. 61,475.00 8.00 187
2011 goodwin, lisa m. 60,789.00 8.00 187
2011 matula, lisa a. 60,789.00 8.00 187
2011 whaley, lezlie a. 60,789.00 8.00 187
2011 fischer, christopher s. 60,478.00 8.00 187
2011 hansen, colleen m. 60,478.00 8.00 187
2011 laconis, robert e. 59,705.00 8.00 260
2011 parcher, rebecca s. 59,705.00 6.75 187
2011 bissell, elizabeth a. 59,231.00 8.00 187
2011 ceccoli, christopher j. 59,231.00 8.00 187
2011 crooks, janice l. 59,231.00 8.00 187
2011 doerner, mark a. 59,231.00 8.00 187
2011 gates, jennifer a. 59,231.00 8.00 187
2011 hall, james a. 59,231.00 8.00 187
2011 jeffery-butler, sarah a. 59,231.00 8.00 187
2011 meredith, ryan p. 59,231.00 8.00 187
2011 reinbolt, lee a. 59,231.00 8.00 187
2011 whiley, lisa k. 59,231.00 8.00 187
2011 fisher, lawrence a. 58,919.00 8.00 187
2011 ketchum, randi l. 58,919.00 8.00 187
2011 geason, rhonda s. 57,672.00 8.00 187
2011 hoover, sean g. 57,672.00 8.00 187
2011 houser, melissa c. 57,672.00 8.00 187
2011 putnam, marlene e. 57,672.00 8.00 167
2011 scheufler, kelly s. 57,360.00 8.00 187
2011 mcmanus, tracy a. 57,048.00 8.00 187
2011 wolff, david w. 56,238.00 8.00 187
2011 fisher, rhonda l. 56,113.00 8.00 187
2011 litteral, amy l. 56,113.00 8.00 187
2011 sartor, susan f. 56,113.00 8.00 187
2011 lukas, jennifer l. 55,801.00 8.00 187
2011 nickoli, robin l. 55,721.00 8.00 260
2011 payne, molly c. 55,721.00 8.00 260
2011 mills, shannon d. 55,490.00 8.00 187
2011 semple, jill m. 55,490.00 8.00 187
2011 lacivita, jason a. 54,555.00 8.00 187
2011 neher, jay t. 54,555.00 8.00 187
2011 pickering, ann p. 54,555.00 8.00 187
2011 minneman, amy s. 53,931.00 8.00 187
2011 nelson, lynn m. 53,931.00 8.00 187
2011 harrington, kim r. 53,619.00 8.00 187
2011 ineson, lisa m. 53,619.00 8.00 187
2011 shumaker, barbara l. 53,619.00 8.00 187
2011 schnittker, lindsay s. 52,684.00 8.00 187
2011 stipp, bethany l. 52,372.00 8.00 187
2011 bement, stacie l. 52,310.00 8.00 187
2011 williamsen, john t. 52,279.00 6.88 187
2011 campbell, judith e. 51,437.00 8.00 187
2011 chapin, tara m. 51,437.00 8.00 187
2011 meredith, anne m. 51,001.00 8.00 187
2011 smith, pamela s. 50,768.00 8.00 260
2011 butler, gretchen d. 49,878.00 8.00 187
2011 hahn, alicia k. 49,878.00 8.00 187
2011 schlessman, kristi m. 49,878.00 8.00 187
2011 hockin, kristin m. 48,320.00 8.00 187
2011 rang, kellie s. 48,320.00 8.00 187
2011 seville, natalie m. 48,320.00 8.00 187
2011 reilly, denise r. 47,240.00 6.75 187
2011 lewis, julie c. 46,823.00 8.00 187
2011 mcguire, tami a. 46,138.00 8.00 187
2011 knoll, timothy t. 45,097.00 8.00 260
2011 seel, jennifer l. 42,085.00 8.00 187
2011 dingle, laura m. 41,836.00 8.00 187
2011 hermes jr., david o. 40,898.00 8.00 187
2011 ehrhardt, matthew l. 40,870.00 4.00 240
2011 ehrhardt, matthew l. 40,870.00 4.00 240
2011 barker, hope a. 40,862.00 8.00 260
2011 lehmann, lee a. 40,214.00 6.00 187
2011 wensink, jennifer e. 38,968.00 8.00 187
2011 mehlow, kristin l. 38,917.00 8.00 260
2011 jenkins, sandra m. 38,168.00 8.00 260
2011 gormley, lisa l. 37,643.00 5.50 187
2011 traut, mary e. 37,409.00 8.00 187
2011 chaffin, linda c. 37,398.00 8.00 260
2011 rankin, christopher a. 37,148.00 8.00 260
2011 reed, mark a. 37,148.00 8.00 260
2011 nemire, bobette l. 36,661.00 7.00 180
2011 clum, matthew a. 36,567.00 5.50 187
2011 mckain, dennis l. 36,334.00 8.00 260
2011 ludwig, judie a. 35,351.00 4.33 187
2011 defazio, brittany n. 34,915.00 8.00 187
2011 hazelwood, megan e. 34,915.00 8.00 187
2011 leimeister, donna r. 34,770.00 8.00 245
2011 miller, renae a. 34,403.00 8.00 260
2011 rasey, lee ann 33,780.00 5.00 187
2011 shelley, dean a. 33,668.00 8.00 187
2011 bollenbacher, kristy l. 32,421.00 8.00 187
2011 vander boon, calvin o. 32,421.00 8.00 187
2011 smith, bonnie j. 31,947.00 4.50 187
2011 ludwig, judie a. 30,114.00 3.67 187

***NOTE this does NOT include 9.3% of retirement the tax payers pays them on top of the wage above, or any other benefit... This is Hourly wage.

2012 on the other site shows increases on this wages. Teaching is NOT a GET RICH career choice, but this looks real good. Sorry, I don't see how you can defend what you posted..

Some staff are listed twice as their wages are split between buildings... Some of these are bus drivers, secretaries etc.

Truth or Fiction

Thanks for the information but it's misleading. First, the data is dated to 2011. Second, the data includes extracurricular stipens such as coaching. Third, you have mixed management and staff with teachers. Fourth, you have not indicated experience or degree attainment. It is apparent that you have taken advantage of the sunshine laws and have a dated copy of the employee rouster for Edison Local Schools. I do appreciate your input but let's look at what you have written.

The information I gave you previously is current wage ranges for area schools including STRS pickup. EHOVE is the only school that still provides this benefit to its teachers. Your district (Edison) is at the low end of compensation for teachers in Erie County.

Since you like to throw out websites, go to salary.com and put in the following professional and technical positions for Sandusky, OH. As I have them in my formerly caffiene stained hands, I will share them with you.

Plant Manager Start at - $86,288 - $122,486 Top=$167,924
Manufacturing Manager Start at - $79,346 - $104,176 Top=$133,431

Mechanical Engineer I (no experience) Start - $52,673 to $57,627 Top=$66k
Mechanical Engineer II (10 yrs. exp.) Start - $83,649 to $91,955 Top=$110k

Staff RN Start - $57,408 - $63,267 Top=$75,299
Hospice RN Start - $55,689 - $62,083 Top=$74,412
Nursing Home RN Start - $48,718 - $51,856

Accountant I (no experience) Start - $38,740 - $42,673 Top=$51,345
Plant Accountant (10 yrs. exp.) Start - $47,143 - $59,130 Top=$72,714
Accounting Clerk (No bachelors) Start - $36,636 - $40,488 Top=$49,879

Entry Level Electrian (skilled) Start - $34,993 - $45,049
Electrician IV (10 yrs. exp.) Start - $41,360 - $54,049
Mechanic Tech I (Entry automotive) Start - $32,336 - $36,715 Top=$46,019
Mechanic Tech III (10yrs. exp.) Start - $38,327 - $49,209 Top=$61,196

Now I would hazard a guess and state that at least 1/2 of the teachers you have listed have been working 20 plus years for the district and have a master's degree. The remaining teachers have a 4 year bachelor and maybe a masters in Education and others are probably working on their master degrees. So are you saying that they shouldn't be paid even the entry level of like professionals with four year degrees or even skilled labor such as electricians, mechanics, and clerks?

Attacking staff and teachers accomplishes nothing. They are not overpaid for their profession just like other professionals are not overpaid. Your argument is a scare tactic insinuating impropriety that is meant to anger the voting public against a much needed levy. What about the teachers and bus driver who recently lost their lives trying to protect the children in their charge? Were they paid too much?

Thank you but I think I defended my point quite well.

Outofwork

There's nothing misleading here, I merely copied and pasted the information from buckeyeinstitute.org and they don't have the 2012 wages posted as of yet, but since you asked, here's another sight opportunityohio.org that does have the 2012 wages posted which are as follows: (NOTE THE INCREASES)

2012 roth, thomas edison local $111,300.00 8.00 260
2012 goodwin, jeffrey $98,797.00 8.00 250
2012 spriggs, nicole 85,704.00 8.00 243
2012 menoski, dennis 83,855.00 8.00 260
2012 smith, cory 82,449.00 8.00 235
2012 morrison, matthew 81,255.00 8.00 260
2012 sismondo, ronald 81,255.00 8.00 260
2012 quattrochi, david 81,073.00 8.00 235
2012 stipp, bethany 80,500.00 8.00 260
2012 hermes, david 78,000.00 8.00 260
2012 parcher, rebecca 71,077.00 6.75 187
2012 campana, timothy 69,830.00 8.00 187
2012 wallrabenstein, shirley 69,830.00 8.00 187
2012 dow, patricia 68,583.00 8.00 187
2012 shrader, holly 68,271.00 8.00 187
2012 blundon, stephanie 67,192.00 8.00 215
2012 mckenzie, michael 67,192.00 8.00 215
2012 smuck, fatima 67,192.00 8.00 215
2012 wadas, kimberly 67,192.00 8.00 215
2012 ludwig, judie 67,024.00 8.00 187
2012 bickley, anne 66,401.00 8.00 187
2012 nemire, ronald 66,401.00 8.00 187
2012 burchfield, tammy 65,930.00 8.00 215
2012 wilbur, dora 65,154.00 8.00 187
2012 morgan, dale 64,842.00 8.00 187
2012 reilly, denise 63,907.00 1.25 187
2012 yingling, von 63,907.00 8.00 187
2012 deehr, julie 63,595.00 8.00 187
2012 delamater, deborah 63,595.00 8.00 187
2012 lewis, lila 63,595.00 8.00 187
2012 lilje, barbara 63,595.00 8.00 187
2012 moyer, michael 63,595.00 8.00 187
2012 naugle, anne 63,595.00 8.00 187
2012 carrier-vajda, cynthia 63,283.00 8.00 187
2012 gilliam, michelle 63,283.00 8.00 187
2012 roberts, margaret 63,283.00 8.00 187
2012 scott, pamela 63,283.00 8.00 187
2012 arlotta, susan 62,528.00 7.50 207
2012 kuhl, mary 62,348.00 8.00 187
2012 cunningham, clyda 62,036.00 8.00 187
2012 laconis, robert 61,837.00 8.00 260
2012 davis, kelli 61,725.00 8.00 187
2012 fischer, christopher 61,725.00 8.00 187
2012 fisher, lawrence 61,725.00 8.00 187
2012 fraylick, bonnie 61,725.00 8.00 187
2012 emody, michael 61,475.00 8.00 187
2012 finn, gail 61,475.00 8.00 187
2012 doerner, mark 60,789.00 8.00 187
2012 goodwin, lisa 60,789.00 8.00 187
2012 hall, james 60,789.00 8.00 187
2012 jeffery-butler, sarah 60,789.00 8.00 187
2012 matula, lisa 60,789.00 8.00 187
2012 whaley, lezlie 60,789.00 8.00 187
2012 williamsen, john 60,789.00 4.00 187
2012 hansen, colleen 60,478.00 8.00 187
2012 ketchum, randi 60,478.00 8.00 187
2012 bissell, elizabeth 59,231.00 8.00 187
2012 ceccoli, christopher 59,231.00 8.00 187
2012 crooks, janice 59,231.00 8.00 187
2012 gates, jennifer 59,231.00 8.00 187
2012 geason, rhonda 59,231.00 8.00 187
2012 hoover, sean 59,231.00 8.00 187
2012 houser, melissa 59,231.00 8.00 187
2012 meredith, ryan 59,231.00 8.00 187
and so on....
2012 putnam, marlene edison local edison middle school (formerly berlin-milan middle school) $59,231.00 8.00 187
2012 reinbolt, lee edison local edison middle school (formerly berlin-milan middle school) $59,231.00 8.00 187
2012 whiley, lisa edison local edison elementary school (formerly milan elem) $59,231.00 8.00 187
2012 scheufler, kelly edison local edison elementary school (formerly milan elem) $58,919.00 8.00 187
2012 mcmanus, tracy edison local edison middle school (formerly berlin-milan middle school) $58,607.00 8.00 187
2012 fisher, rhonda edison local edison middle school (formerly berlin-milan middle school) $57,672.00 8.00 187
2012 litteral, amy edison local edison elementary school (formerly milan elem) $57,672.00 8.00 187
2012 sartor, susan edison local edison elementary school (formerly milan elem) $57,672.00 8.00 187
2012 wolff, david edison local edison high school $57,547.00 8.00 187
2012 morrow, jennifer edison local edison elementary school (formerly milan elem) $57,360.00 8.00 187
2012 neher, jay edison local edison high school $57,360.00 8.00 187
2012 mills, shannon edison local edison elementary school (formerly milan elem) $57,048.00 8.00 187
2012 semple, jill edison local edison elementary school (formerly milan elem) $57,048.00 8.00 187
2012 bake, randi edison local john e gregg elementary school $56,879.00 7.50 182
2012 obertance, arlene edison local edison high school $56,879.00 7.50 182
2012 tedeschi, pamela edison local stanton elementary school $56,879.00 7.50 182
2012 swickard, ellen edison local edison high school $56,279.00 7.50 182
2012 davis, lisa edison local edison middle school (formerly berlin-milan middle school) $56,113.00 8.00 187
2012 lacivita, jason edison local edison high school $56,113.00 8.00 187
2012 nickoli, robin edison local edison local (formerly berlin-milan) $55,721.00 8.00 260
2012 payne, molly edison local edison local (formerly berlin-milan) $55,721.00 8.00 260
2012 hannan, kathryn edison local pleasant hill elementary school $55,602.00 7.50 182
2012 kovalesky, tony edison local edison high school $55,602.00 7.50 182
2012 kovalesky, deborah edison local edison high school $55,602.00 7.50 182
2012 mohnacky, barbara edison local stanton elementary school $55,602.00 7.50 182
2012 minneman, amy edison local edison middle school (formerly berlin-milan middle school) $55,490.00 8.00 187
2012 pajak, lynn edison local edison middle school (formerly berlin-milan middle school) $55,490.00 8.00 187
2012 dawson, donna edison local stanton elementary school $55,079.00 7.50 182
2012 hendricks, deborah edison local edison jr. high school $55,079.00 7.50 182
2012 mason, darlene edison local edison jr. high school $55,079.00 7.50 182
2012 sokol, diane edison local edison high school $55,079.00 7.50 182
2012 bickar, debra edison local pleasant hill elementary school $55,002.00 7.50 182
2012 yanssens, gretchen edison local pleasant hill elementary school $54,779.00 6.50 182
2012 clum, matthew edison local edison middle school (formerly berlin-milan middle school) $54,555.00 8.00 187
2012 byers, kari edison local john e gregg elementary school $54,479.00 7.50 182
2012 loprete, susan edison local pleasant hill elementary school $54,479.00 7.50 182
2012 meyer, karen edison local edison high school $54,479.00 7.50 182
2012 o'karma, michelle edison local stanton elementary school $54,479.00 7.50 182
2012 cottis, tara edison local john e gregg elementary school $54,402.00 7.50 182
2012 schnittker, lindsay edison local edison middle school (formerly berlin-milan middle school) $54,243.00 8.00 187
2012 frampton, susan edison local edison jr. high school $53,881.00 6.50 182
2012 bahen, jennifer edison local edison jr. high school $53,802.00 7.50 182
2012 baker, diann edison local john e gregg elementary school $53,802.00 7.50 182
2012 barker, brooke edison local john e gregg elementary school $53,802.00 7.50 182
2012 bloomer, ginger edison local pleasant hill elementary school $53,802.00 7.50 182
2012 bordash, cynthia edison local stanton elementary school $53,802.00 7.50 182
2012 edmond, karen edison local stanton elementary school $53,802.00 7.50 182
2012 hendrix, judy edison local john e gregg elementary school $53,802.00 7.50 182
2012 keeder, janice edison local pleasant hill elementary school $53,802.00 7.50 182
2012 potenzini, monica edison local edison high school $53,802.00 7.50 182
2012 shaffer, vickie edison local pleasant hill elementary school $53,802.00 7.50 182
2012 shepherd, catherine edison local edison jr. high school $53,802.00 7.50 182
2012 sinicropi, leanne edison local john e gregg elementary school $53,802.00 7.50 182
2012 bement, stacie edison local edison high school $53,619.00 8.00 187
2012 harrington, kim edison local edison elementary school (formerly milan elem) $53,619.00 8.00 187
2012 ineson, lisa edison local edison elementary school (formerly milan elem) $53,619.00 8.00 187
2012 shumaker, barbara edison local edison elementary school (formerly milan elem) $53,619.00 8.00 187
2012 harris, jacqueline edison local stanton elementary school $53,502.00 7.50 182
2012 sinicropi, amy edison local john e gregg elementary school $53,502.00 7.50 182
2012 stewart, kathleen edison local john e gregg elementary school $53,502.00 7.50 182
2012 davis, nancy edison local pleasant hill elementary school $53,202.00 7.50 182
2012 hoobler, mary edison local stanton elementary school $53,202.00 7.50 182
2012 rogers, terra edison local pleasant hill elementary school $53,202.00 7.50 182
2012 smith, angela edison local john e gregg elementary school $53,202.00 7.50 182
2012 campbell, judith edison local edison middle school (formerly berlin-milan middle school) $52,996.00 8.00 187
2012 chapin, tara edison local edison elementary school (formerly milan elem) $52,996.00 8.00 187
2012 bernhart, michael edison local edison high school $52,381.00 7.50 182
2012 meredith, anne edison local edison elementary school (formerly milan elem) $52,310.00 8.00 187
2012 rankin, christopher edison local edison local (formerly berlin-milan) $52,000.00 8.00 260
2012 sansone, beverly edison local john e gregg elementary school $51,781.00 7.50 182
2012 dinger, susie edison local john e gregg elementary school $51,481.00 7.50 182
2012 stagani, jo edison local edison high school $51,481.00 7.50 182
2012 butler, gretchen edison local edison middle school (formerly berlin-milan middle school) $51,437.00 8.00 187
2012 hahn, alicia edison local edison middle school (formerly berlin-milan middle school) $51,437.00 8.00 187
2012 schlessman, kristi edison local edison elementary school (formerly milan elem) $51,437.00 8.00 187
2012 evans, james edison local edison high school $51,394.00 7.50 182
2012 pasiuk, tally edison local john e gregg elementary school $51,394.00 7.50 182
2012 smith, pamela edison local edison local (formerly berlin-milan) $51,387.00 8.00 260
2012 call, sheryl edison local pleasant hill elementary school $51,181.00 7.50 182
2012 maurer, nancy edison local john e gregg elementary school $51,181.00 7.50 182
2012 baker, paul edison local edison high school $50,223.00 7.50 182
2012 mccafferty, jody edison local pleasant hill elementary school $50,223.00 7.50 182
2012 saphore, tammy edison local stanton elementary school $50,223.00 7.50 182
2012 carpenter, mindy edison local john e gregg elementary school $50,151.00 7.50 182
2012 peach, ronnie edison local edison local $50,042.00 8.00 260
2012 rang, kellie edison local edison middle school (formerly berlin-milan middle school) $49,878.00 8.00 187
2012 seville, natalie edison local edison elementary school (formerly milan elem) $49,878.00 8.00 187
2012 groves, rosann edison local edison high school $48,963.00 6.53 182
2012 hargrave, susan edison local stanton elementary school $48,734.00 5.00 182
2012 olmstead, penny edison local stanton elementary school $48,508.00 7.50 182
2012 lewis, julie edison local edison elementary school (formerly milan elem) $48,133.00 8.00 187
2012 robinson, todd edison local edison local (formerly berlin-milan) $48,000.00 8.00 260

Furthermore, instead of listing wages of other professions, why don't you list wages of the other schools that make so much more. After all, that would be comparing apples to apples and backing up what you stated above wouldn't it? Just for the record, the salaries you did compare above are also positions that WORK approx. 261 days a year, 8 HOUR DAYS not their lunch included in their 8 hour day, work 2nd and 3rd shift, and don't have many other perks. Who's misleading?? Done with the conversation, the proof is in the numbers.

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Crissy -

Are other school districts posting their union contracts on their websites?

tiredofthecrap

Re Edwin.. I emailed that person this morning. I was told contracts are public record and should be made available through the school. Did you have any luck? They will try to keep them hidden as long as possible.
re; truth or fiction.. other schools are not trying to hide all of their perks..also you fail to mention that all other jobs you have listed above are getting hammered on property taxes to up the wage of Edison Staff. Get a clue!

Edwin Ison

I'll just wait for it to be posted online.... I will not be picking up a contract at the school...lol

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Tired-
I don't think anyone is trying to hide anything. It's obvious that every request you have made you have received the information you requested.

Stop the fear mongering and state the truth. Your district has not passed a new school levy since 2005. It has had millions of dollars cut from tanible personal property tax and state funding. It has reduced its budget from around $18m to just over $14m for current school year. Costs of mandated programs and bussing have increased in some cases doubled. When you get your information and I am sure you will; it will show that teachers in your district are at the lower end of compensation in Erie county even with the "new" contract. I would even wager that as the district has reported it is saving money from the contract, your teachers took a net loss over the two year life of your contract.

So your school millage hasn't gone up in eight (8) years. Your school board has cut the budget. Your teachers make less than EHOVE, Perkins, Huron, Vermilion, and Sandusky with or without STRS (retirement) pickup. You don't have an overabundance of buildings, administrators, and staff. Please quit trying to sway people with misinformtion and allow people to hear the truth. Your district needs a new levy to maintain the level of education it has been known for.

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One other point. The 2005 levy was for 3.9 mils which equates to $119.40 per year of additional taxes on a $100k home. That was eight years ago, so where is this continual heavy tax burden you keep lauding?

tiredofthecrap

We the taxpayers ARE stating the truth. We are done with their Scare tactics and threats. If they can't live within their means like the rest of us, it is time to close down the school and move on. They have pushed us too far and now we are pushing back. We as parents are the reason are kids are a success. We are the ones that sit with our kids for hours helping with homework after that high paid teacher puts it on the board and then gets on their cell phone. Ask your kids what goes on in school. You need your eyes opened!!

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Tired-
The only scare tactics are coming from you, those being; they're lying to us, they're hiding something, the school district keeps raising my taxes when the facts show those statements are not true. No amount of TRUTH will change your mind. The important FACT is that those reading this blog now see your true intention. You stated; "...it is time to close down the school and move on." Be careful, the grass may not be greener across district fences.

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Crissy -
just confirmed an answer to your previous question. The $34,043 starting pay I quoted previously is the effective starting pay for a teacher in the Edison District beginning July 1, 2013 with no STRS pickup. That most likely applies to the 20+ year teacher with a Masters. Let me state that another way. The teacher gets no pickup on their retirement and they are in the lower half of pay for teachers in Erie County. I also found out from my source that all step increases are frozen for the two years of the contract. That means no new money going to teachers in your district.

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Hey-
When you get that contract, let me know if my source is accurate. That source has never let me down in the past!

Bland

Although many things could be said to you tiredofthecrap, you may not have noticed, but the Register and Reflector fail to display the times (particularly recent) where teachers do take concessions and forgo raises.

tiredofthecrap

Yes they could not reach a deal with the school board and had their wage frozen for 2 years. We all know that. That was because they could not get the levy passed . Now they are getting that back and more with their new contract. This is Unsubstainable! Every other year you will keep coming back for more and more. BTW.. it was in the register and reflector.

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Tired-

That is FICTION not TRUTH!

The NEW and I repeat, the NEW CONTRACT has zero increase in compensation. That means NO NEW MONEY! NO STEP INCREASES for two years! ADDED EMPLOYEE COST of sharing in premium cost of health insurance. NO MORE STRS PICKUP! In summary a NET DECREASE in Teacher compensation and benefits. If your right about the two previous years without base raises that means your teachers have gone FOUR (4) YEARS without a base wage increase! READ MY LIPS – YOUR TEACHERS ARE GETTING NOTHING BACK! They are taking LESS!

You need to remember one thing. The Paper is a for profit business trying to sell papers. Articles are written by staff reporters who may or may not understand the nuances of accounting/finance. They try to get the information right but are limited to article size (word count) and deadlines to get the information.

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OutofWork-
Took you up on your comparison challenge.

2012 wallrabenstein, shirley 69,830.00 8.00 187
2011 wallrabenstein, shirley 69,830.00 8.00 187

Look what I found - NO INCREASE from 2011 to 2012 and I took your postings and cut and pasted them just to make you feel confident that there is no funny business going on here. Now please help me with the facts. Isn't Wallrabenstein a 30+ year HS math teacher with an MA in your school district. Why didn't that teacher get the big raise you state the teachers got.

2011 matula, lisa 60,789.00 8.00 187
2012 matula, lisa 60,789.00 8.00 187

Now come on - something's not right here! You have a middle school teacher with NO RAISE! I thought you stated; "There's nothing misleading here ..." Let's go look at Edison Elementary, I'm sure that's what you were looking at when you saw all those big teacher raises.

2011 whiley, lisa $59,231.00
2012 whiley, lisa $59,231.00

What? NO RAISE! Sorry - More FICTION not TRUTH coming from your websites.

Now let's look at those other schools and I am happy to list those salary ranges in two categories. Category 1 is the Base Salary for an incoming teacher. This is an apple to apple camparison as the STRS pickup that EHOVE teachers receive is included.

EHOVE $38,817 - with STRS pickup
Perkins $36,095
Sandusky $34,820
Huron $34,278
Edison $34,043 (STRS pickup eliminated - teachers pay it)
Margaretta $33,335
Vermilion $31,710

So Edison Local School District is in the lower half of entry level pay for Erie County school districts. Let's look at an experienced teacher with 20+ years of experience, a master degree in education, and 30+ hours of additional skill training. Category 2 is as follows:

EHOVE $82,376 - with STRS pickup
Perkins $72,045
Huron $69,252
Vermilion $67,542
Sandusky $67,481
Edison $66,384(STRS pickup eliminated - teachers pay it)
Margaretta $63,670

So experienced, highly educated, and skilled teachers in the Edison School District rank second from the bottom in pay for Erie County schools. Oh! One other piece of information. The Edison rates quoted here are the NEW TWO YEAR contract rates with no STRS (retirement) pickup. The teachers now pay it so please don't try to say that I'm hiding something.

Now to address your parting shot. Most manufacturing facilities provide a formula for vacation pay. That formula is based on time worked. If you work the requisite number of hours in a year you receive your full vacation pay. The longer you work at a facility, the more vacation weeks you acrue in a year normally up to a max of 4 or 5 weeks. Most formulas look at a requirement of working 1800 hours in a year to receive full vacation pay. Those 1800 hours are considered a full year's work taking into account time lost for 10 holidays, 10 days of vacation, and 10 sick/personal days in a year.

So let's look at a teacher. Your website states 187 work days. School Day (class time) is an eight (8) hour day but that does not take into account class prep time or post class activities (grading, recording, parent conferences, etc.) So let's be conservative and look at one hour before class and one hour after class let's out. That's a 10-hour day. 10 hours x 187 days = 1,870. Or put another way, what is considered in the private sector as a full work year. Sorry - once again your arguement is mor FICTION than TRUTH.

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