Obama wins

President Barack Obama has won Ohio again, capturing the swing state after a hard-fought battle with Republican Mitt Romney.
Associated Press
Nov 6, 2012

Obama, who also won Ohio in 2008, claims the swing state's 18 electoral votes.

Both sides poured major time and resources into the battleground state that has been among the nation's most contested in recent presidential elections. It was considered pivotal for both.

No Republican has won the White House without Ohio. The last president elected despite losing Ohio was Democrat John F. Kennedy in 1960.

Ohio has been site of much of the advertising spending by the campaigns and outside supporters. It also was among the most-visited states by the campaigns.

In addition to Ohio, Obama captured battleground states Iowa and Colorado on his way to the 270 electoral votes he needed.

Obama will again be dealing with a divided Congress. Democrats maintained control of the Senate and Republicans likely will again control the House. Among the most pressing matters is the so-called fiscal cliff of tax hikes and spending cuts scheduled to hit in January. Economists have warned that if they aren't averted, the nation could face another recession.

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coasterfan

Contango, we Dems aren't averse to paying taxes. It's part of maintaining society and our basic infrastructure. We just think that the rich should pay more since their current tax rate is the lowest it's been in 50 years. You're not still one of thoe tea party folks who thinks Obama is a Socialist, are you?

Contango

@ coasterfan:

Not adverse to paying taxes? It of course depends on the percentage.

Where do you start to feel pain in your pocket; 50,60,70,80,90%?

Add up what you're currently pay in Fed, state and local taxes and tell me if you'd like to be taxed a 'little' more - it's comin'.

Taxin' the rich ain't gonna cut it, no matter what the Supreme Leader says.

The middle class will have to pay more.

Randy_Marsh

Coaster
Please for gods sake give up your high falutin lifestyle of computers and internets and feed the poor, We beg you to. Its your moral code to quit petroleom products and donate to the Obama administration as they need YOUR taxes to pay for the Peace drones that smite our enemys and our citizens with equal zeal as your god Obama has prescribed. For the love of god and country you need help serious mental help. (Sreiously go to the nut ward, You have a serious problem)

sanduskysteve

There are several things congress should do immediately - the first one is to vote in term limitations for congress - the second one is that in order to obtain a raise in pay or benefits - there must be a national vote during a general election - which means congress only gets a chance for a raise every 4 years. There is NOTHING unfair about this system, at least not in my opinion. And the third thing they need to vote into law is no more money from any group, corporation, or person other than their pay is allowed while they are in office. This will fix most of what causes problems in congress. And if they won't do it, we need to start the largest national petition ever seen to get these issues on a ballot for a nationwide vote - that will supercede the congress in this. Those three things will fix more problems than any three things congress could do. Anyone want to start circulating a petition?

verdict

@sanduskysteve You voted Democrat. Not only that, but you gave them a 2nd term and, with it, more SCOTUS appointees. None of those things are ever going to happen as long as a Democrat is in charge. Centralized planning and power is their model. SMH.
Your party has also pushed our nation into socio-economic failure over the past 50 years, so..the centralized planning and power will likely be "on steroids" soon enough.

sanduskysteve

How did you get this from what I said. I was talking about congress for one thing - the President already had term limitations. It's the republicans who are against term limits for congress - it's republicans who are against HR25 and it's republicans who are against allowing the public whom they work for to decide if they should get raises or not.

verdict

I am looking at the destination, not the narrative we hear on the way there.

John Harville

verdict: The destination IS the narrative.

verdict

I am looking at the destination, not the narrative we hear on the way there.

Contango

I've enjoyed reading the shouts of triumph from the Obama supporters and how they were so inclusive of women, Hispanics, blacks, the youth and others as a voting block.

I’ve also been reading hatred from the left about how the Repubs are so out-of-touch because they appeal to old white people and the TEA Party

Well the joke is on them.

The 78 million baby boomers (mostly white) are and have been reaching retirement age to the tune of approx. 300 per hour.

The majority are arriving at retirement flat broke with little-to-no savings.

Since both Soc. Security and Medicare are both pay-go Ponzi schemes, who’s goin’ to be paying for the old white people’s benefits???

If so many individuals mostly old white people will be collecting Progressive “cash and prizes,” where’s the money gonna come from but largely from the group that supported Mr. Obama?

sanduskysteve

I'm not sure what your point is really - even Romney agreed that SS would last at least another 10 to 15 years the way it is. Some of the retirees you can figure are not going to last that long - and there are still young people working and paying into SS. I'm just confused about what you are saying? Do you honestly think that moving SS to the private banks to handle would make it all better???? There is no interest being paid on the SS collected. The private sector is not going to add anything to the pot either. It just doesn't appear that SS will improve to your satisfaction no matter who is handling it. And if there is another financial fiasco - t hen SS would be gone as well. None of the talk about any of this makes a whole lot of sense to me - quite honestly, it appears that the majority of Americans agree with me or Romney would have won. My fear of Romney stemmed from the fact he never had a single bit of fact or numbers or explaination of his plan to make it any better than what we have now - so why change things in mid stream. The only thing he was sure about was that he was going to cut taxes across the board, take away a lot of deductions, and protect the rich. Those typically are not things that the average American was in favor of - as shown by the election results. Maybe the GOP needs to change some of their views and practice the separation of church and state a little better.

verdict

@sanduskysteve First off, opposition to abortion is FAR from exclusive to religous people. My closest friend is an Atheist and he is disgusted by anyone who aborts a child for any reason other than rape, or to avoid physical complications for the mother.

Abortion has NOTHING to do with the Separation of Church and State. Besides, Christianity would tell you that all aborted children "go to heaven."
Are you so desensitized that you cannot fathom why many people look down on abortion regardless of whether or not they currently believe in a God?

sanduskysteve

Abortion should not be something which the government is involved in - period. The republicans are mainly involved in abortion - not everyone - they are way too willing to protect someone before they are born but more than willing to turn against them once they ARE born. This is one big issue with me. I am not for abortion as a form of birth control - but when you attempt to eliminate birth control - you haven't left much else for people to rely on. Can't have it both ways. How about protecting those who have already been born for once?

verdict

I do not see any move to eliminate birth control. Eliminating certain forms of birth control does not eliminate birth control itself.
They are trying to regulate abortion so that we can get back to the way it used to be, when people were more careful and responsible..when they knew that, unless they had a Doctor's excuse, they would have to actually raise a child if they put themselves in the position of chancing a pregnancy.
Crackdowns like that tend to wake people up. And history would agree.

Contango

@ sanduskysteve:

Currently, money goin' into SS is less than the benefits coming out.

See: http://www.washingtonpost.com/bu...

Yes, fed income tax is paid on 80% of SS benefits.

So do you believe that SS and Medicare will be there for you or will it be broke before you get there?

Kimo

The election is over people, move on............

Randy_Marsh

Kimo
You have to put it in the form of a haiku with no rules.
The elections over
We all must pay
Bad decisions have consequences
free phones for those who dont work.
No RULES!!
(OK one rule, as per the pizza commericial I will put my shirt back on)

verdict

@ Kimo Move on? What, exactly, do you mean? Are we supposed to stop paying attention to what's going on until the next election season?

Contango

@ Kimo:

So maybe as a reward for votin' the "correct" way, the govt. should give you a big fat raise in your SS check? Whatdoyasay?

More cash and prizes for everyone!!!!

Debt be d*mned - let the rich pay for it!!! ("Taxing the rich" always ends up trickling down to taxing the middle class.)

Heck, maybe when I qualify for those govt. bennies, maybe I'll start votin' Dem, demand more and more and let the youngsters pay through the nose to support me in a comfortable lifestyle.

Startin' to sound good to me. Greed is good - especially when someone else is paying the bill.

sanduskysteve

A couple of comments on this one. First - again, I must tell you - SS is not cash and prizes for everyone - quit confusing those. I'm not sure there is a push to actually tax the rich more - I, though, am for taxing the rich equally. You can take all deductions away from everyone if you wish - but also remove all deductions away from the rich as well. Remove all deductions - everyone pays a flat tax rate - no more refunds and no more tax returns - everything will work out great - you will see a very large increase in revenue to the government at that point. But, until you get the republicans to take their head out of the butts of the rich - you will lnever see this happen. Again - HR25 fixes it all.

Contango

@ sanduskysteve:

Not a push to tax the rich more?

"I will not ask students or seniors or middle-class families to pay down the entire deficit while people making over $250,000 aren’t asked to pay a dime more in taxes."

- Pres. Obama

How does that read to you? Reads like everyone is gonna get to pay down the deficit to me. How do ya do that? Higher taxes.

http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-pr...

The Progressives like progressive marginal income tax rates and using the tax code. for social engineering. HR25 is DOA.

You also have to include state and local taxes.

50% of the electorate decided:

Tax, borrow and print more so we can spend our way to prosperity!!!

The Big Dog's back

I can't wait till you pay more taxes winnie. Woo hoo!

Contango

@ brutus:

So you're lookin' forward to me gettin' SS and Medicare and having you work to help pay for it?

Thanks.

Factitious

Why is it that tax breaks for the working class is derided as "social engineering" while tax breaks for Big Money isn't?

Wealthy Republicans are greedy and selfish. The rest are their dupes.

Kimo

Two worlds....

Yours.....

Mine.....

You stay in yours.........

I'll stay in mine.........

You can live unhappily ever after........

Randy_Marsh

@Kimo
Two worlds..
Yours..
Mine..
You stay in yours..
Don't make me pay for yours...
You can starve...
You can still have a free phone to call someone who cares...

sanduskysteve

If Kimo wasn't born yet - you would have a completely different position.

kURTje

Coasterfan won.%%%%%%%%%% Ontango lost.

thinktwice

B.O. 1 Country 0

John Harville

Lessee: Sean Hannity now supports the Dream Act and the Path to Citizenship. Bill Kristol says the country won't die if the wealthy pay more taxes. Rush Limbaugh takes the blame for Obama winning.
Grover Norquist is in despair and says Republicans lost because the Democrats convinced voters Romney is a Poopie Head.
The Kock Brothers and Sheldon Adelson woke up Wednesday morning realizing they had just been duped into participation in the largest ever "wealth distribution".
18 states want to secede (Yeah baby!).
To throw back a throwback phrase from the Right of my youth "Obamerica... love it or leave it."

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