Police brass order investigation after reviewing arrest tape

Sandusky police administrators have ordered an internal investigation into the arrest of a man who led a high-speed chase through the city Friday.
Sandusky Register Staff
Sep 27, 2012

Police officials planned to talk to Officer Sean Orman about the arrest, during which Orman punched suspect Juan Recio Jr. in the face.

But after reviewing additional video of the arrest recorded by a cruiser camera, administrators said Thursday they've ordered an internal investigation involving several officers who were present for the arrest. 

All of the officers involved will remain on duty during the investigation.

*See other video of the arrest here
*Get Sunday's Register for the editorial Viewpoint on the arrest. For an excerpt click here.  

Recio was captured after fleeing from police at 4 a.m. Friday at speeds exceeding 80 mph through city streets. Recio stopped his car at Milan Road and McKelvey Street where he then led officers on a foot chase.

The video picks up right as Orman catches up with Recio.

Recio was later charged with reckless operation, obstructing official business, failure to comply with the signal of a police officer, operating vehicle intoxicated, reckless operation and no seat belt.

For more on this story, pick up a copy of Friday's Register.

Comments

OnlyfoolsAssume

Investigate what everything is plain as day in the video just like the report. Orman strikes him because he is alone and Juan is getting up to try and fight again and won't show his hands. Help arrives the officer in the back administers common peroneal strikes which are justified by the action response force continium officers are taught when someone is resisting arrest. Officers attempt to cuff him which fails so they step back and an officer uses his taser. He is cuffed and its over. Oh, and btw SR you forgot resisting arrest? since thats clearly why all this took place you know cause he ran then fought...

kaemae

I say high five Orman! He did the best he could do without shooting the guy. I believe that shooting the suspect in a situation like this would have procedure in this situation the officer didn't have his taser and was unsure if a fleeing suspect had any weapons. This man should be thankful all he got was punched in the face.

Mother hen

Really??? I say bravo SPD, its plan as day this guy was going to fight or run.

CAST THE FIRST STONE

6 cops holding and one punching..really how is punching trying to make sure you dont have a gun. how about grabing his hands.I think 7 cops could grab one guys hands. punching uncalled for and a stupid police move

OnlyfoolsAssume

the officer in the back administers common peroneal strikes which are justified by the action response force continium officers are taught when someone is resisting arrest per the state of ohio. and clearly seven cops couldn't get him cuffed or they wouldn't have let go and used the taser. Maybe he was hopped up on drugs?

CAST THE FIRST STONE

what about punch to the face

GottaloveNorwalk

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my oh my

Ok time to charge at least (7) cops criminally and demand their resignations and/or start termination proceedings.This can not be tolerated....Would like to see how "BAD" the PITBULL would be in prison...LOL

Only on the beach

@my oh my -And if this guy drove is car right into your loved one, son, daughter, grandchild, wife, husband, or other and killed them or ran onto your property into your home and terrorized or hurt your family, how would you feel about the cops then? They had no idea what his plan was or if he had a weapon. Thank you SPD for protecting our neighborhood!

BlueAngel

@my oh my..............You are right...there is no reason for all those officers to be beating on this person...Just because they wear a badge does not give them the right to beat on a person. Tazer him...not kill him by beating on him... I am with you...Time to charge at least 7 cops for burtality...This is just bullcrap!

sanduskysteve

My main question would be - Why did Orman not have his tazer with him?? isn't that part of his required equipment? Why be issued one if you aren't going to keep it with you and use it when it is appropriate, like in this case?

czechurself

Steve, the report Orman wrote stated that he fired the taser and missed. Later, when Reico tripped on the driveway, Orman jumped on top of him and hit him to keep him from getting back up. Officer West then fired his taser after the other officers arrived and tried to gain control.

OnlyfoolsAssume

Hmm clearly seven people wasn't enough since he was still getting up and they had to resort to a taser to keep him down. Was he on drugs possibly? But you can clearly see them back off and use the taser because they cannot keep him down. I feel like they probably offer a ride along program as do most departments if anyone would like to show them how to do their job better? Because I know all of you would have let him pull his hands out and looked to make sure he had a gun before deciding to jump on him, I mean wtf your life isn't in danger behind your keyboard

Randy_Marsh

That looked like he kicked him in the head, Anyone else catch that? Taz him and be done with it. Beating him is ALOT excessive.

OnlyfoolsAssume

The FBI's 2012 statistics on officers killed in the line of duty indicate that 38 percent of all officers killed in the United States that year occurred during a crime in progress where the officer was effecting an arrest and f those officers, 68 percent were killed at night. In the last 4 years, this number has increased almost 400%.

Also in big cities if you don't show your hands you get shot, the reason Sandusky has so many losers and no one wants to live there is because the Judge's and city leaders let the inmates run the asylum. You don't like SPD move to Detroit see how long you last there

OnlyfoolsAssume

The kick never touched him, also he was going to push him back down with his foot but it was not needed, its all in the report.

Randy_Marsh

I havent read the report. It looked weird so i was asking. Thanks !!

OnlyfoolsAssume

Your welcome

Most Wanted

Would your comments be different if the officers caught him after raping a woman or shooting someone? When it's 4:00 a.m. in the morning, guy is driving 80 mph down city streets, does not stop at your warning, then takes off on foot...you don't assume he's a nice guy. Tackle his a$$, if he doesn't hold still, do what you gotta do to make him hold still. Don't second guess an officers life. If that idiot would have had a gun, then those 7 officers subdued him without anything more than a blackeye..big deal.

lugnut2511

My opinion would be different then without a doubt. I would of put a bullet in him and not wasted the taxpayers money if that were the case

sanduskysteve

If he were raping or shooting someone, the of course, things would have been different. As Lugnut just said - they would have the right to use excessive force - in this case? Not sure it was needed or warrented in this case. But the tazer definitely was and was not used by the officer because he did not have it with him.

steelersfan71

OK watched the video and I'm not sure how this works so I may be just blowing hot air....but really he continued to struggle and fight with the cops yeah people it is not pretty to watch something like this but really he was doing 80mph through our streets and he ran WTF if you don't want to get punched and kicked by seven cops then pull the hell over and cooperate with the POLICE. Really that seems like common sense to me. If you don't have any thing in your hands show the cops your hands. I'm sorry but I don't really see the problem here. Now if it had been sunday afternoon and he just left church and was being a good boy and driving his granny home, then yeah not a good thing but 4am and not cooperating, he got what he had comming to him. Glad that all 7 cops went home to their families and the bad guy went to jail. Grow some balls people and stop being to hard on those who protect and serve.

myopinion34

Amen!

Informer

I agree 100% with everyone backing up the officers, no one is up to any good breaking the law at 4am. Nice job SPD, Keep up the good work!!

SickOfTheStupidity

Maybe wether should have just shot him?! If his dumbass wouldn't have fled, I'm sure there wouldn't have been an issue! So he got punched in the face. Boohoo! These cops never know who they're fighting, what they're on or how far they're willing to go to get away. We recently found out just how stupid and desperate people can be.... He's in court now. I personally have a tremendous amount of respect for these officers. They work a thankless job, work for peanuts and put their life on the line everyday. I know I couldn't do their job...no way, no how. So they got caught up in the moment. Big deal. Write them up and let them do their job. Thankfully this idiot didn't kill anyone.

Most Wanted

I agree with everything you said except the "they got caught up in the moment" part. I don't think they did. I think they subdued him. He wasn't holding still, flailing all around. They didn't know if he had a gun, was high on drugs or what he was capable of. They subdued him as quickly as possible and kept themselves out of danger.

myopinion34

Agreed

sanduskysteve

high on drugs maybe - but I think if he had a gun he wouldn't have run, he would have attmepted to use it. And it turns out he did not have a gun. The officers did follow the rules and not shoot him, but I still think the tazer which was missing would have prevented the abuse of the suspect. Yes, the police are to Protect and Serve, but they are also to protect the suspect as well.

Yes, the guy was speeding at 80 MPH thru town, but that is not a capital crime - if he had caused an accident, things would be different as well - but he did not. Speculating on what COULD have happened is not justification for what DID happen. Jury is still out on this until the investigation is finished.

jes1413

Myohmy, I have a couple questions for you. Say one, or two, or seven of those cops help arrest the man who beat a 3 yr old to death, or that loser who killed the mom and her babies, would you call for their resignations then? Doubt it. Not to mention, not all of these officers were even punching this man. They should resign for arresting a man then? I suppose you would rather this guy run the streets of Sandusky with his drugs and what not rather than get a bruise or two while resisting arrest? If they had continued punching him after he was cuffed then by all means, call for their resignation, but they could have just shot him if you'd rather they not lay a hand on him.

BlueAngel

@jes1413...why does everything have to go back to a different situation...the situation is what it is... there was NO reason for those cops to do that... TAZER HIM and be done with it...geesh... no comparison to the 3 year old beat to death or the mom killed with her children... good grief... that guy should be SHOT.. plain and simple...

SickOfTheStupidity

I agree with that most wanted. I meant: caught in a situation with an idiot which people with nothing else better to do could blow out of proportion! :)

donutshopguy

I'll take the cop's side on this one.

Darkhorse

Six cops on one guy?? I didn't like the comment that was made that the cop was still a young cop. They have to do better training.

Kimo

Forgot to turn off video = verbal warning, turn page.

Mum-of-One

How brave, I notice he didn't start punching until several other cops were holding the guy down.

been-there-done-that

Great Job SPD Officers! Just more grand standing to appease the Rag.

blueyedgrl1030

OMG people! What in the he__ is this city and our citizens becoming???!!!Ive rewatched this video numerous times-SEVEN yes people count them one officer punched that suspect 7 times REPEATEDLY and if you watch closely theres an officer in the back that throws a punch also-good god what? Was that for sheets and giggles??!! Because the officer in the back who threw the punch SURELY didnt look like he was in much danger-NOT with 7 or 8 other cops holding the guy down! I realize that this community has seen our crime rates raise drastically BUT everyone of those officers carries tasers-looks like only ONE of those officers had enough COMMON SENSE to use it because EVERYONE OF THEM coulda tasered the guy and the punching was unnecessary! I agree nothing positive is happening when you're running the streets at 4 am but some of you people have some really skewed attitudes-the crimes make you sick and you're tired of it but then you want to watch something like this and substantiate it? Its criminal people-makes those idiot cops that partook in this no better than those they arrest daily. MAYBE just MAYBE one slug the guy still resists and the taser comes out and hey I'm silent/I'd kindly keep my mouth shut but there was EIGHT TOTAL PUNCHES THROWN before the taser came out-for me thats excessive!!!

myopinion34

U obviously know nothing about what a taser feels like....i love when people preach about things they have absolutely NO experience or knowledge of....

OnlyfoolsAssume

Hey blueyedgrl030 since you must have missed it the first time, the officer in the back is doing whats called a common peroneal strike which is justified for officers to use when a subject will not comply with orders such as putting their hands behind their back. Let me explain it now so you understand. The officer punching him in the back of the leg is hitting a pressure point nerve that will help make him comply with orders and that is totally justified by state of ohio standards taught to officers. any further comments?

myopinion34

Thank God someone understands! Geesh!

SamAdams

In a case like this, the police only have a couple of priorities: Catch the bad guy. Subdue and arrest the bad guy. Try not to get killed while you're doing it. Looks to me like the police did exactly what they were supposed to do, and they did it without using lethal force.

Those of you who object to the force necessary to restrain somebody who's being VERY uncooperative: Would you rather police had just shot him and been done with it?

Cops have an extraordinarily tough job during which they sometimes endure great risk. The vast majority of police officers take seriously their oath to protect and serve. If they sometimes have to play rough to make an arrest (because playing "nice" sure didn't work with THIS idiot!), I'm perfectly okay with that as long as it's not their FIRST resort. And here it doesn't appear at all that it was.

OnlyfoolsAssume

Also blueyedgrl if you can do a better job then turn in an application no one is stopping you. If he ended up having a gun and they did nothing and were all killed then you would have been that person saying why didn't they do something? or if he killed a kid in the street while doing 80mph you would have been complaining if they did nothing. But wait they do their job and people still complain, don't run and you don't have to worry its called obeying the law try that back in the old days when I was going up if you ran from the police you got your @$$ kicked and you knew you deserved it. Today we are way to soft on these criminals, prisons are like freaking five star hotels

OnlyfoolsAssume

And thank you SamAdams I agree 100% if they beat a man for no reason of course they deserve to be punished but fighting was far from their first resort they obviously tried numerous times to get him to stop prior

safecracker2

WTG SPD!!! Maybe they'll think twice. Zebra's don't change their stripes, and criminals don't change their behavior. He needed an "intervetion".

blueyedgrl1030

@ Onlyfools
First of all Im not stupid obviously I can read and write. I clearly saw your post explaining the "peroneal strike" and I get the point of your explanation thank you-did earlier also. Now FYI heres how a taser works-it can send a pulse of about 50,000 volts. Most standard settings on tasers have a 5 sec cycle and within those 5 secs the shock sends intense signals thru a persons nervous system and triggers muscle contractions in ALL muscles. Most who are tasered suffer temporary paralysis and if standing while being tasered will fall to the ground. HMMM...this guy was already down-seems simple to me taser his a$$ and be down with it. Kinda seems the taser woulda done the almost same thing as the "justifiable peroneal strike, only difference 1 taser no punches. Hmmmmm whats so hard to figure out there every officer had a taser on them-takes as much movement to pull it from their belt versus throwing a punch! And fools maybe you should take your own advice on your screen name DONT assume what I would or wouldnt be saying or defending-kinda makes you look foolish. I dont comment half as much as some of these people do on here I pick and choose when to offer my opinion but FYI my grandfather was a police officer so I have respect for the law but I have no respect for that kind of bs in that video. I'll tell u what fools lets keep track of this little investigation-how much you wanna wager in the end the higher ups ALSO say immediate use of the taser (vs eight punches before the taser comes out) was the correct procedure? Lastly I agree sometimes criminals are handled with kid gloves but I don't agree with a beating and thats what this was. I dont know about getting your a$$ kicked by the police and knowong you deserved it "back in the day" becauz back in my day alls I had to do was have my father give me the look and know Id be dealt with there so I never dealt with the police because I was too afraid of my fathers rath after I got home. And oh yea IDK maybe YOU missed something-my user name has grl in it-no use me applying I wouldnt fit into the good ole BOY club!

Informer

As far as the part involving a taser, correct me if im wrong, your saying the man would have been incapacitated after being tasered? As far as what I can see, he was still resisting arrest after being tasered, it took two officers to restrain his right arm and place it behind his back, while his left arm he decided to shove under his body. So the only thing left to do is either A.Try Physically getting him to comply or B.) Taser him again. My best bet is he was on Phencyclidine,Tasers dont work on people who are high on angel dust. So they had to subdue him physically.<--- just an assumption...... Im just pointing out what seems to be the obvious here, think of me as Switzerland lol

And considering you are a female, that was a pretty sexist remark considering nearly 24% of police applicants are women....you should try it out sometime,,,might be fun?!lol

jes1413

Clearly, "the look" didn't work on this guy. Neither did the punching, nor the taser for that matter. Not to mention, I think tasers are more likely to cause death (cardiac arrest) than a punch. Althought they could've just shot him, they wouldn't have had to punch him then either.

jes1413

Side effects of a taser include but are not limited to: loss of balance (falling) due to muscle contraction, desicribed as "significantly painful", seizures (sometimes deadly) and loss of consiousness, muscle and skin damage, and cardiac arrest (also sometimes deadly). Side effects of being punched: typically a bruise lasting appoximately a week, and the ocassional broken jaw/tooth. I guess you're right, the taser is a great!!

Gardenman

I would guess situations like this are high tension. Sometimes ones emotions get in the way of what is overuse of power. I think and investigation is good/ It does not have to be one that ends with a person suspended or fired etc. It can have a lot to do with talking and learning and making sure all was done correctly. Maybe it was or maybe it was not....let the investigation show that.

I shutter think though had this man been a Black what the reaction at this point would by from the NAACP and other groups. Could be a very high tension problem had that been the case.

safecracker2

Every time a cop deals with a subject, they are at a disadvantage. They have to re-act to the persons actions. And there is a gun at every call. Think about it. WTG SPD! Time to put a stop to this. For the betterment of our community. Crime is out of control. Way to step up to the plate.

Informer

This is how I was taught, seems pretty legit to me....I dont see anything wrong here...

1) Physical presence
2) Verbal commands
3) Empty-hand submission techniques
4) Intermediate Weapons e.g. closed-fist punches, kicks, baton, pepper spray, Taser, beanbag rounds and etc.
5) Lethal force.

Fireside

This is how I was taught....see the red lights flashing behind you? STOP

CCW_in_Sandtown

Good Job SPD.

EZOB

I have been arrested "upteen" number of times. Keep it respectful and I have never been assaulted. If I had to go through what these officers are burdened with each and every day, I'd beat them half to death. Each and every shift need a couple of bad AS#@S to handle extreme situations. When things get violent and become out of hand (Which happens weekly)who Ya Gonna Call, Ghostbusters aren't any help. Never been a cop, never wanted to be, but I'd take this guy for a partner anytime.

Super Judge

Kinda feel bad for the cops because it took 6 of them to take down 1 man and hold on there. they appear week and almost defenseless what I want this guy would of what those cops. does it make you feel all warm and fuzzy about our local law enforcement strength and fitness levels?

gennycreamale

You know if wrong is wrong I will say it. However, I really do not see an issue with this. A lengthy chase into a dark backyard and in the video the guy curls up and will not present his hands. It's all good they have a ton of options on their belt to use but the guy is not going to stop unless you go hands on. These guys want to go home every night and do not blame them one bit. Hell they should have kicked the living, you know what, out of this guy. I am sick of the candy arse, charge these police officer people. These are the same people who let the world get like it is today because of their handle the bad guy with kid glove attitudes. Google Simple Man by Charlie Daniels, the whole song is true about the world today but the line "they are living by the law of the jungle, not the law of the land." is the truth and this is how Sandusky has turned. I do not envy these officers one bit. Keep up the good work and next time make sure you turn the car so the camera is focused on the fence and not right infront of you.

lugnut2511

Did I count this right, seven cops, n seven punches and one kick? I would say more than a little over the top I would say. Hmmm uhm say Rodney King Sandusky style! I think the police department needs to get a stricter and permanent chief in place asap. But I think some charges should be brought up against some officers as well. The first punch, landed the guy to the ground, at that time three cops were there, then seven punches and a kick. Bad, badddddd Sandusky!

jes1413

Yepp, you counted completely right. It took seven cops, numerous punches, and then being tased to get cuffs on this man. What are you complaining about? I suppose you would rather they just let him go? He was running from the cops, it typically takes force to apprehend someone in that case.

PerkinsPirate2005

I haven't read the report nor do I but after reading the comments and knowing many officers who put their lives on the line to keep ALL of us safe all I have to say to some of you is next time you have a problem and NEED the police....call a dead beat crack head and see what help you get!

JohnDorian12

I hate this newspaper and I hate all those who have the audacity to question this, until you have walked a mile in their shoes dont you dare criticize how they do their job! All you Jackwagons who are saying it was too much force what if this guy would have run some over driving 80 mph dow a city street, what if it was your kid or your parent?? That city, starting from the incompetent boobs who are running it, to the "newspaper", to the citizens themselves are jokes and that is why, if Cedar Point ever decides to close up shop, that joke of a city ca break off and sink into Lake Erie. You morons make it IMPOSSIBLE for cops to do their jobs, forget the fact that this department solved a TRIPLE homicide and caught the animal in less that 5 days, but lets focus on why they didnt do something before he commited this awful crime, I guess no one at the Police Statio was manning the "Crystal Ball" they have, that tells them well before a crime like that will be committed, GOD that city is a joke, and you wonder why no decent person WANTS to move there and why any decent person is trying to get the heck out....

reader001

Good job SPD, thats what this town needs. We would much rather see this video and know that we took another scumbag off the street.

deertracker

Everyone knows that if you run you will get a beat down when caught. That's in ANY police department. I say don't commit a crime and the rest is moot! The investigation will find that the only one wrong was the suspect and IMO that would be correct!

BEHAPPY

Really? We are going to blast our LE once again? As a citizen of this once very nice city, I have to also be on the side of our LE! I say thank you to all of them. Let's see, some creep is out at 4 a.m. recklessly driving drunk, running from police at 80 miles an hour through our city streets, not obeying police orders and we are once again siding with the criminal? What a joke! I am so sick of this. No wonder this town is going to HE!!. I will never understand why everyone is so quick to "feel sorry" for our criminals. What???? One need not wonder why there is no respect for our LE anymore. Why obey laws? Why obey/respect an officer? Let the poor guy go, maybe next time he can kill someone! Needless to say, I side with our officers. And thank them very much for their thankless, not to mention very dangerous job they do for US. We might as well all be criminals, why not? What do you have to lose? Stay safe out there all of you officers who are now being investigated for doing your jobs!

sanduskysteve

Regardless of where you stand on this - there must be something in there that isn't quite right or there would not be an investigation done by the SPD. It's as simple as that. Let's see what the investigation shows AFTER it is completed - then I'll comment. It did seem like there was just a little overkill in the way the suspect was handled.

As for those who believe this is a really bad guy for driving 80 thru the city - why not say the cops should not have chased him? maybe he would have slowed down then. There are two ways to look at all of this. The investigation will show the true outcome of what's happened here.

SamAdams

Sanduskysteve while there are some instances in which you might be right, in most, you're wrong. Investigations are warranted, or even required, under a host of circumstances. For example, if an officer shoots somebody, no matter how legitimate the shooting is, there's at least a general investigation. In this case, the police hit a suspect. Of COURSE there's an investigation! It could show wrongdoing on the part of the police, but the USUAL outcome proves the bad guy had to be violently subdued because he wouldn't submit to arrest otherwise.

As for suggesting the police shouldn't have chased somebody who might have slowed down if the cops weren't on his heels, that's just too silly for further comment.

sab44870

Check out this mornings Toledo news. This dude in Sandusky was fortunate.

http://www.toledoblade.com/Polic...

Tru Grit

This while I am thinking "hey this guy lead the police on a chase then ran, should get whatever is coming to him." Then my better judgement comes in. Working for the state with DYS, I am not even a police officer and know certain things are not right to do. They should have never thrown a single punch at this man. If he is resisting back up and give him a taser shot. For a little bit, I was thinking Sandusky had got their s**t together, I guess not. Orman is not the only one using excessive force, this is sad. SPD again you have proven that some of your officers think its 1892 and not 2012. If I was this individual I would get a good lawyer and make sure while I take my punishment some punishment be taken on the officers too. The cops are the one that are suppost to live by a higher standard of moral conduct, this shows they are not better then some of the crooks they arrest.

jes1413

So why isn't it ok for an officer to hit a man with his fist, but they are issued clubs or baton to strike a person with? Just curious why it makes a difference.

sanduskysteve

I think the clubs and batons are meant for a defensive action - rather than an offensive tool. They can be used against animals to defend themselves. They can hold up the baton along their forearm to prevent injury if someone is attmepting to hit them with something. I'm still not completely sure that the force used was absolutely needed and it appears that their superiors are in agreement with me on this one.

jes1413

I believe you are wrong. Check out this website http://www.asp-usa.com/powerpoin.... It is a link to the leading club/baton manufacturer in the US, and provides powerpoints detailing proper ways and places to hit a suspect to subdue them. Their wording is... "designed to teach public safety professionals how to most effectively use our products to subdue suspects and protect themselves on the streets." So again, my question is, why are officers issued these to strike a person, but using their fist in the same manner is cause for an investigation? And why is the force uneeded, as it took that amount of force and that many officers to cuff this man?

Julie R.

Tru Grit: Best comment.

Intelligent Citizen

@Tru Grit- If you would've read the previous comments you would've known the several punches thrown by one of the officer were common peroneal strikes which are justified by the action response force continuum. As for the punch thrown by Orman. The man just led officers on a police through downtown Sandusky at 80mph, and then begins fleeing. Orman had no idea whether or not the man had a weapon, so he felt the need to control the man by using force. Also, Orman initially missed with his taser which makes that argument obsolete. And yes jes1413, they have asp's (practically batons or nightsticks) which could've been used, but in a spur-of-the moment situation such as this, it doesn't appear that he would've had time.

jes1413

I completely agree with you, I'm just trying to illustrate for the incompetent that striking an individual is something officers are enabled by their superiors to do. Every officer is issued, at no cost to that officer, an ASP. It is also part of their OPATA training.

wiredmama222

Many of us in this city have had it with the "inmates" running the town while the cops are unable to do their jobs because of complaints, harassment or the like. It is time we took this town back from the criminal element and if it means that the cops throw punches, so be it. One officer, Orman, did so and many of us applaud him for what he did. Should he chose to call him self the "pitbull", let him. Why not. Many of the criminals around here have them. Why not the us, the law abiding souls of this town. Ok, so ours walks upright and carrries a nightstick and tazer. Big deal. Our doesn't bite, he punches. Deal with it.
The main point is, he sees to our safety from you dumb criminal types who invade our streets at 4 am driving drunk and selling or using drugs. Too bad, sad. I guess from now on, it sucks to be you! As for the "brass" downtown and the Ms. Ard from her office. You best let OUR "pitbull" be, because we are backing him up for what he does. We like him a LOT. Stay away from his type of law enforcement. If we didn't want him, we would say so....and if you don't know that by now, you either cannot read or don't want to read the SR.
So I suggest you give him a few treats and send him back out there because as far as many of us our concerned, he is doing just fine. If you "brass' people are so afraid of the possible consequences maybe we should get people to replace YOU who can stand up to those consequences.....and you know perfectly well who I mean....they have initials.
Anyway.....I have said all I am going to for right now. And as for YOU, Mr. Westerhold. If you thought trying to discredit this cop was going to be easy.....guess again. Not this time and not now. Shame on you again. And don't try and pull that PRE RECORDED BETWEEN THE LINES junk again with a so called scheduling routine. It won't work a third time. Not everyone is quite a dumb as you seem to think.

blueyedgrl1030

@ Informed
only fools was suggesting I apply to our fine citys dept-as far as I know theres what 2 or 3 females employed at SPD-sexist maybe but considering I don't jump over that side of the fence I'm good thanks I'll pass on your suggestion of trying it and it being fun. The grass is plenty green on my side. Now is that too sexist for you also or just part of human sexuality-enlighten me if u feel it necessary or are you aware of what I'm referring to?

Only on the beach

Really blue...? What an ignorant comment. Sooo not only are you a sexist towards male officers but also the females ? Sounds like you have a grudge against law enforcement.

beman

Good job boys! Glad you all made it home safe!

babigirl08

Sandusky spd have to do what they have to do too many crazy things have been happening in sandusky ohio lately.

THED0N

I am alright with everything but the kick in the face. There was already 6 SPD's there. The guy is getting tased why kick him in the face?

THED0N

I am fine with everything that happened Except the kick in the face while the guy is being tased. At that point there is no reason to kick anyone in the face.

OnlyfoolsAssume

THEDON, He was never kicked in the face in the report it states the officer was going to use his foot to push him back down but determined it was not needed, it also verifies in the printed version today he was not kicked in the face

Louie

The SPD did what had to be done to keep us and the officers safe well handled cant say i would have done it any different.Good job .

Gunner10

What if, because obviously there was no way for Officer Orman to know, the guy did have a gun and when struggling he shot officer Orman? Then what? Would it be another Officer Dunn (not downing him in ANY way shape or form, so please don't take this out of context) shooting all over again. Or what if the gun shot through the wall who's house they were right next to and shot an innocent little child. If he would have just stopped his car in the first place and Officer Orman did his traffic stop then all this would'nt have happened.
All of you can easily badmouth these Officers SOOOOO FAST... but when push comes to shove "IF" anything should happen to you.... BET YOU CALL 911! And whatever they might have to do to save your life.... Bet you would be grateful too!
I'm glad our Guys got to go home SAFELY to their families that night!

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shbamn1

There are a few of them officers looking a little scrawny. Thats why they were unable to hold him down but that blow to the face you can clearly see nothing in the mans hands. Some of it a little uncalled for but dude needed his butt beat. Good job SPD.

czechurself

I agree that at that (punch to the face) point officer Orman could see that his hands were empty, he hit him to keep him down and to keep him from running. (His taser had already been spent). When Reico continued to try to struggle to get away, that is when the other officers arrived and Reico was tucking his hands under his body. No one could know whether at that point if he was reaching into his pockets and or waist for a weapon. So the tussle begins. Yeah, some of the less experienced seem to just be following the lead but thankfully experienced officer West remained composed and by using his taser and getting the mark, the rest were able to eventually get things under control. Good work.. It may not have been pretty, but it was clean!!

jes1413

They may have been able to see there wasn't anything in his hands, but when he was on the ground with them under his body, they couldn't see that he wasn't reaching for anything in his pockets/belt. And at least the "scrawny" officers haven't had too many donuts.

TuffNutts2011

In any other jurisdiction this man would have probably been killed. NO more officer injuries because some crackhead has a gun or some dope to ditch before the cops get him stopped. Nice work SPD we got your back. Keep it up.

sanduskysteve

Just a comment about his speeding claim. 80MPH??? I watched the video several times - there is no way that car was going 80 MPH at any point in the chase. Too many short distances with 90 degree turns. At one point it is possible the car made it up to possible 50 - and although that is speeding - an 80 MPH high speed chase was stretching things a little too much for me. The chase didn't even last long enough.

Someone mentioned that they could have hit and killed a kid playing - at that time of the night??? There should be no kids out in the streets at that time of the night. The suspect didn't almost hit anything - not even a car - it appeared he ran a couple of stop signs as well. Also, the tape of the "beating" was very enlightening to me. It's no wonder that the Chief is investigating this. And it does appear that one of the officers kicked him in the head - it wasn't a very hard kick, but a kick anyway. This situation should not have escalated this far if Orman would have had his proper equipment with him. But, I still believe that if the suspect had a gun - he would have used it and not tried to hide it behind his back - he was far enough ahead of the cops to make use of it. He didn't appear to be much of a threat - but more of an excuse for a cop to hit him and then try to get away with it. And I don't bash the cops unless they do something stupid - in this case I think at least two of them possible did something stupid.

mrmorency

Kudos, Sean! WOOF WOOF lol

@ the scrawny officer comment.... It's all because apparently to weed out the overweight cops they (OPOTA) set the standards so only people who can run fast can become cops. Usually, the fast runners are skinny aka scrawny. So guys with some brawn to them can't get certified since they can't run fast enough.