Sandusky Mall gets $1M renovation

Andy Ouriel's picture
10:14 PM
Sep 08
2010
PERKINS TOWNSHIP

The newest attraction at Sandusky Mall isn’t a trendy fashion store or tasty snack cart — it's carpeting.  

Planners behind Sandusky Mall are placing 60,000 square feet of industrial, heavy-duty carpet and 14,000 square feet of Italian porcelain tile along the walkway as part of a $1 million renovation funded by the Cafaro Company.

It's all in an effort to improve the mall environment for customers, offering them greater service and pleasure, mall planners said. 

Here's a rundown on the mall renovations that will be completed by Nov. 1: 

• 60,000 square feet of industrial, heavy-duty carpet, largely in the main concourse  

• 14,000 square feet of Italian porcelain tile at entry points   

• Chandeliers 

• New air conditioning and heating 

• Remodeling exteriors at JCPenney, Macy’s and Sears

• Electronic marquee on U.S. 250 displaying movie titles and times  

• Monument signs at entry points to guide visitors toward department stores and key areas  

• Landscaping improvements. 

• NOTE: The new Cinemark theater is not part of the $1 million renovation   

 

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sandusky neighborhood's picture
Sep 19, 2010
10:26 PM

sandusky neighb... says

All I can say it was an stupid ideal!!! What they need is a food court dumb a***es

Norma J-C's picture
Sep 15, 2010
10:34 PM

Norma J-C says

I was at the mall today and spoke with one of the women who are charged with keeping the carpet clean. They are not thrilled, my opinion, because of the difficulty in keeping carpeting clean. It requires a vacuum cleaner and spills generally leave stains. Have we forgotten the nastiness of chewing gum that gets ground into carpeting? Yuk.

Nothing beats a shiny,  waxed and squeeky clean floor. Carpeting is unsanitary and one might as well live in a sweeper bag considering the dust that remains in the fibers.

first of duh month's picture
Sep 15, 2010
05:28 AM

first of duh month says

 Bring back Gold Mine with the classic arcade games. Cedar Point Gifts. Baskin Robbins...Oh wait, not Baskin Robbins...all the slobs will get ice cream all over the new carpet.

Bring Back York Steak House too...and Angelo's-and maybe stop charging insane monthly rent payments. How about an Apple Computer store? Closest is Cleveland.

Thanksgiving is for those who appreciate what they have & give thanks for it; not for those who take & abuse the system for as much free stuff they can scam & rip off those who give thanks for having their jobs.
libertarian's picture
Sep 11, 2010
08:45 PM

libertarian says

Compared with other malls the same age, Sandusky Mall is doing quite well.  The owners have done an excellent job of keeping it full and up to date.

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Salvatore's picture
Sep 11, 2010
06:05 PM

Salvatore says

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MrSandusky's picture
Sep 09, 2010
08:34 PM

MrSandusky says

Ok, how bout I say "it is like putting lipstick on a pig".  Will the Censor Nazi's on Market Street censor that line?

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Sep 09, 2010
08:29 PM

MrSandusky says

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SamAdams's picture
Sep 09, 2010
07:37 PM

SamAdams says

Carpet? Tile? Chandeliers? Whatever. I'm sure they look very nice (although I agree with most here that the carpet isn't going to stay that way). But if you want me to go shopping at the mall, the BEST renovation you could make is to get some better stores in there. By "better," I mean more variety and more range.

The bigger places -- Penney's, Sears, Macy's, Elder Beerman -- are fine and do offer a pretty good variety. And the book store is pretty much the best thing ever (at least for someone like me who's an avid reader). But there are all sorts of places I've not so much as set foot in due to a complete lack of interest. Why not one of those world import places  (Pier I has gotten ridiculously expensive and could use some competition)? A Discovery store? Come up with some things I can't get elsewhere unless I'm willing to drive to South Park!

Meanwhile, I'll probably continue to go to Border's using the store entrance and, when I'm done shopping, turn right back around and go elsewhere for anything else. The carpeting's just not that much of a lure. Sorry.

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first of duh month's picture
Sep 09, 2010
03:47 PM

first of duh month says

 There Doofus Smith goes with the "you people" again. It's gonna stink! Restaurants hardly use carpet at all any more because it's disgusting. Ever been to PondeGROSa on Milan Rd when it was still open? Your feet actually stuck to the carpet it was so nasty.  I would never put carpeting in my kitchen! Those mall floors need mopped-not vacuumed...again..."duh" ...and the "take your shoes off" idea? Ewwwwwwwww!  Let's all get athlete's foot while we're at it, especially with sandal wearers running around barefoot. Ewwwwwwww.

Thanksgiving is for those who appreciate what they have & give thanks for it; not for those who take & abuse the system for as much free stuff they can scam & rip off those who give thanks for having their jobs.
milanpet's picture
Sep 09, 2010
12:24 PM

milanpet says

Carpet was chosen because it is the cheapest floor covering available period
youngfamily's picture
Sep 09, 2010
11:45 AM

youngfamily says

I was at the mall last week and hated the carpet for the fact it's HARD to push my double stoller around! It did look nice though.

gyrocartfluffikins's picture
Sep 09, 2010
11:30 AM

gyrocartfluffikins says

Forget the carpet.  Forget the Italian tile. 

If you want to bring back the sexy to the Sandusky Mall get on the horn with Montgomery and FW and convince them to bring their irresistible wares back to Erie County.  If you can convince FW to open up the lunch counter again, well that would just be the icing on the cake. 

Call Scotto and get his pizza-by-the-slice revolution back.  Restore the glory of the Gold Mine.  Hickory Farms on Line 1. 

Close Borders and bring back Gray Drugs, then move on down the line and convince Recordland to come back to relive the golden days of vinyl. 

Get rid of that sporting goods hack, "Dick" and restore the wonder that was Koenig's. 

And finally, one word:  Silvermans.

Now THAT would restore the luster of the Sandusky Mall.

Pragmatic's picture
Sep 09, 2010
11:21 AM

Pragmatic says

Don’t worry Taxpayer – we are taking our real shopping elsewhere. I do not know if you have ever led a successful business, with your attitude that would be impossible. It is about us. In fact, because this is a privately owned business, who happens to be in the business of serving people, it would be wise to ask their clients if they wished to have new carpeting – or a new atmosphere (décor), or anything else that might actually attract local business. With people coming in and out of the mall, it would have been fairly easy to conduct a qualitative or quantitative survey.  Especially if a business is privately owned, they should want to know what the needs and wants of their consumers are. 

 I have lived in many cities in the U.S. and abroad. I have seen this so-called durable carpet in a few other malls. But, it wasn’t very aesthetically pleasing. From my experience, I have seen more malls taking out the carpet and replacing it with tile. I just think this was an unusual decision. I don’t think that we are “complaining” about it necessarily, but since it is our hometown mall, we are certainly allowed our opinions.
 
By the way, the carpeting has nothing to do with many of us taking our business to other malls...
 
Kramer's picture
Sep 09, 2010
10:02 AM

Kramer says

To protect the carpet, I think we should all just take our shoes off like at home.

Erie Countian's picture
Sep 09, 2010
09:53 AM

Erie Countian says

I'm curious as to what all the "mall walkers" think of walking fast on the carpeting as opposed to doing their daily walk on the tile floor. Also, why are so many of you worried about the upkeep of the carpet? Won't a dirty carpet mean "more jobs" for carpet cleaners? I thought "more jobs" is what everyone wants and whines about here in Erie County. Seriously people, if you are so worried about carpeting in the mall, you need to get a life.
Taxpayer's picture
Sep 09, 2010
09:53 AM

Taxpayer says

The liberal?  The flaming liberal. 

So is this TAXPAYER money being spent?  NO!  This is a private business who decided to spend their OWN money to try to improve things.  If you do NOT like it, go shopping someplace else.  Decades ago I thought the Mall would fold up.  Stores have come and gone.  But, guess what sports fans.  It is STILL there and people STILL shop there.  In fact, at least four generations have shopped there.  It is all about what a business decides to do, not what YOU want.  If YOU want to make expensive decisions and proclaim how wonderful YOU are then look into your OWN finances.  Oops, members of the "freeloaders club" are exempt.  Ha! Ha!     

Latina43464's picture
Sep 09, 2010
08:42 AM

Latina43464 says

Sandusky Mall has NO good stores for shopping. We go to Franklin Park Mall usually. Especially for kids clothes. Sandusky Mall has no kids clothes specialty stores. Where is Gymboree? The Childrens Place? Baby/Kids Gap? Crazy 8? Justice? Limited Too? The only place to shop for little kids clothes in Sandusky Mall is Penneys, Sears, Elderbeerman, and Macy's. Not much selection in those stores either!

Plus there is not much selection with food choices. I'd love to see Sandusky Mall expand and put in several food courts. Sure they have what 3 sit down places and a few pretzel/cookie places but a real food court offering fast food etc. Teens have no place to hang out at our Mall and socialize.

brutus smith's picture
Sep 09, 2010
08:17 AM

brutus smith says

Gee, I wonder why restaurants use carpeting?  The environment. Here I am, Mr Liberal, sticking up for a business trying to make the place desirable. Some people complain the sky is blue.

Matt Damon's picture
Sep 09, 2010
07:56 AM

Matt Damon says

<quote>Maybe they should have put in dirt floors so you would feel more at home./<quote>

it will look like a dirt floor in about 6 months

Joe Bell's picture
Sep 09, 2010
07:49 AM

Joe Bell says

 

You're right on the money, Brutus.  By the way, the carpeting has been used in many other malls and holds up beautifully.  I just wanted to add one small clarification to Andy's story.  The renovation project will cost IN EXCESS of $1 Million.  (We don't discuss the precise cost for proprietary reasons.) 

brutus smith's picture
Sep 09, 2010
07:36 AM

brutus smith says

 You people against the carpet need to get out in the world once in awhile. Geesh. Heavy duty commercial carpet. What part of that don't you get? Maybe they should have put in dirt floors so you would feel more at home.

Julie R.'s picture
Sep 09, 2010
07:29 AM

Julie R. says

This has got to be the dumbest thing ever!

inquiringmind's picture
Sep 09, 2010
07:03 AM

inquiringmind says

I guess I am just trying to figure out why they would have even  thought of this idea. Working with senior citizens, I can see someone who "shuffles" their feet or uses a cane, having difficulty walking on this stuff. And I agree about the problem of upkeep, especially with winter coming. And it's not just about wet shoes. It's also the wet tires on wheelchairs, etc. WHAT WERE THEY THNKING?? 

Pragmatic's picture
Sep 09, 2010
06:56 AM

Pragmatic says

 

I must agree with the majority. When I went to the Sandusky Mall last week, I was surprised to see carpet.  While certainly, it must be made of indoor/outdoor material, and made more solid than residential carpeting, there is still the factor of cleaning and repairing. The biggest issue will be for the janitorial employees. I have already seen stains on the carpet. 
 
I was trying to figure out a logical reason for carpeting the mall. It is obviously not a good idea for cleanliness – and – even though it isn’t plush carpet, it will hold a smell from the wet and muddy shoes/boots from the winter. Then, I thought, perhaps they put it down because it’s safer than tile. I’ve seen many people slip and slide on the tile with their high heels and I’ve seen others slip on the tile when they have wet shoes on. 
 
So, the positive thing about the carpet is there will be less slipping, sliding and falling. Good for the customers. The negative side will be trying to keep it clean and repaired (snags). Bad for the employees of the mall. It looks clean and crisp now with the new carpeting. But, it would have been prudent to put together a community focus group to discuss what they would like to have seen with the million dollars. After all, we are people who choose to use it...or go to Franklin Park or South Park Mall. When you are in the customer service industry, you typically get further by asking what your customers/clients want.  
Jackie's picture
Sep 09, 2010
06:39 AM

Jackie says

 I have been there since they started this project.  I cant believe you would put carpet in a high traffic area.  And to top it off it s a light color. I am all for any improvements but wow what a waste of money.  

Raoul Duke's picture
Sep 09, 2010
06:19 AM

Raoul Duke says

I wish they would make the whole mall like Old Town that was part of the Southwick Mall in Toledo back in the late 70's and early 80's. Paint the ceilings black and put in old street lamps and park benches, and make every store front fit the image. Have the lighting kind of be on the dark side so it's like evening and night time. Also, I'd like to see more food-dah, and have it mixed in among the stores, and not have a food court-I hate food courts!. And I'd like to see a wing of the mall dedicated to very small, specific shops owned by local people. That's been done here before, but it didn't last. It might work in the mall, though. My favorite store in Old Town was the poster shop. They had every poster you could ever want, since that's all they sold!

Our mall will never be able to compete with other malls unless it sets itself apart in some way, giving people a unique experience that they can't get anywhere else, something worth coming here for.

Logistics's picture
Sep 09, 2010
06:15 AM

Logistics says

If you are complaining because they are putting carpet in the mall---you need to take a real close look at your self. Wow...

devilsadvocate's picture
Sep 09, 2010
06:08 AM

devilsadvocate says

 I just double checked my calendar, I thought for a minute it was April Fool's Day.  

Darkhorse's picture
Sep 09, 2010
05:34 AM

Darkhorse says

Carpet in the mall is the most stupidest thing I have ever heard.  Although, it is nice but it will not look nice for long and causes more maintenance issues and cost more to maintain.  A year from now, they will be ripping it back up.  Watch out store renters, your rent is about to go up and that will be passed onto the consumer in the product they sell.  

Kelly's picture
Sep 09, 2010
05:21 AM

Kelly says

They used to have carpet at Summit Mall in Akron. It  always looked dirty .

Woody Hayes's picture
Sep 09, 2010
05:04 AM

Woody Hayes says

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Dr. Seuss's picture
Sep 09, 2010
04:36 AM

Dr. Seuss says

Why would you not put down new tile?  Easier to clean and looks soooooo much better.  Let's see how great the carpet looks in the spring.  Some one is just not thinking.

MrSandusky's picture
Sep 09, 2010
01:06 AM

MrSandusky says

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first of duh month's picture
Sep 09, 2010
12:25 AM

first of duh month says

 I heard they CARPETED THE MALL!!! How stupid can you be? They'll easily use up more than $1Million shampooing & upkeep than ever!  DUH! Auto shows TIRES on it, mobile home shows, truck & trailer shows, kids slobbering all over it, gross people dumping food on it,  PEOPLE'S SOGGY, SLUSHY FEET IN THE WINTER??? Just another way this town's going backwards-but that's to be expected from this generic area.

Thanksgiving is for those who appreciate what they have & give thanks for it; not for those who take & abuse the system for as much free stuff they can scam & rip off those who give thanks for having their jobs.
chongo's picture
Sep 08, 2010
11:21 PM

chongo says

How about lowing your lease prices and getting some stores in there that people "want to go to"...

dorothy gale's picture
Sep 08, 2010
10:24 PM

dorothy gale says

 

The article states:

It's all in an effort to improve the mall environment for customers, offering them greater service and pleasure, mall planners said.

Carpeting?  How will CARPETING offer "greater service and pleasure?!"  Is anybody else laughing?  I find this to be the most hilarious thing I've read in weeks!

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