polarbears says

I agree with you 100%.  I don't know you but I am praying for you & your family. 

polarbears says

A different newspaper did the same type of reporting in Florida, so to the family, and everyone involved, you are not alone, others have gone through similar situation.  I think it's disgusting what these newspapers consider as "news".  People who loved this woman are hurting enough without the tacky headlines, and 911 transcript out there for all to see.

http://www.naplesnews.com/news/2010/dec/11/florida-drown-car-canal-lake-fatal-Mary-Catania/

starryeyes83 says

Actually I'm typing.    If you are going to attack people for an opinion and start thumping your bible  then go ahead.   This is a news story.    This was preventable and everyone else who has said the same has not been attacked as I have for  concurring with them.   Learn water safety , use an emergency hammer and break a window.    Don't drive through high water. Go around. Be aware of your surroundings.  How hard is that?
 

  All of you are too busy puttting the blame on the  emergency  crews.   And yes, I  did know her. 

Show me where I said it wasn't tragic?   Don't ever tell me to shut my mouth again.  

miss opinionated says

starryeyes if i were you i'd just shut your mouth now.  regardless of what you think or what you feel is "common sense", a wonderful life was lost in this tragic event.  no one person can predict how they would have reacted had they been in this same situation.  it's easy for you to sit there on the opposite side of your computer screen and preach about helping ourselves, you were not in this situation, nor did you lose someone very close to you because of this situation.  you are entitled to your own opinion and freedom of speech, but please, grow a brain and have some compassion for those that lost a dear friend, wife, mother, sister, daughter and nurse.  i did not know this woman at all, but i can tell you that my heart aches for her and her family everytime i hear about this tragic story.  my prayers are will them all i hope they can find peace one day in all of this.   so for now hold your tongue and you grow up.  if you have nothing nice to say, please do not say anything at all.

Truth or Dare says

To Baby Sister, her family, Kat, friends,  cancer patients, co-workers and all those who knew and loved her....

"Those we hold most dear never truly leave us....they live on in the kindnesses they showed, the comfort they shared and the love they brought into our lives."  Isabel Norton

I've hung onto to this for well over  15 yrs., now.  It was received within a card sent by a friend wishing comfort in the loss of our grandparents, who had died unexpectedly within 2 day of each other and were buried together.  It sits with a picture of my brother who was a cancer patient, more than likely treated at some point in time throughout his 4 yr.. battle by such an angel as your sister, Lisa!  

Prayers of comfort and peace are with you all!  

starryeyes83 says

PS   Baby sissy,,  If you want to listen to the 911 call  ( which never be made public to begin with) ...   go ahead ..  I  don't listen to them.    

We are all gonna learn a leson from this, rescuers, other drivers, don't you agree..   Don't know why you attacked me and called me a satanist  ( blah blah)   what does that have to do with water safety and having common sense when you drive    and the signs going up earlier .    I never said it wasn't sad and tragic .... we have to start learning to help ourselves instead of depending on 911.  

Don't you agree?

starryeyes83 says

What part of  sad but true don't you get.  Hateful?  Grow up   Even the experts say "turn around don't drown..  I was making a comment  on a new story... it's the same advice as the safety experts would give.  I never once said it wasn't sad that she died.    It was preventable now wasn't it. People take chances like that all the time to get to work. 

Ever hear of  drop and roll  ?   Same thing. 

kURTje says

Yeah, blame God.  He made it flood.

Kottage Kat says

I am heartbroken for your loss. Anyone who knew Lisa and her family knew kindness and love. Her gentle spirit and her comapssion for others, often putting them before herself will live on in the hearts of thoise who were blessed to have had her in their lives. I know my world is a better place for having Lisa. We didn't see each other iften, usually at Walmart (where else), it was like old home week and Lisa always took time to find out what was going on in my world. Thank you Lisa. You have left a hole, not only in the hearts of your family and friends, also to those who were the recipiants of your many kindnesses and your unending compassion.

always in out hearts

kat;}

Baby Sister says

Your name should not be starryeyes, it should thee eyes of satan, how dare you post something as hateful and ignorant as you did! My Sister, Lisa was a beautiful, loving and caring woman!!! It is plain to read that you have one heck of alot to be desired!!!! I think you had better come to know the Lord Jesus before some unforseen accident comes your way!

Baby Sister says

Let me tell you something you so called "Starryeyes", How dare you post or even think something like that! Lisa was my big sister!!! And she was one of the smartest, loving and caring people that you could only dream of knowing!!!  Did you hear her blamming the dispatcher or anyone else while she was fearing and fighting for her life? NO YOU DID NOT! And to say, LESSON LEARNED!!! What kind of satanistic person are you? SHE IS DEAD! What a stupid, ignorant and heartless comment for you to even consider posting! I will pray to God for you, because you definitely need to learn to know the Lord.

zabe69 says

Lisa was a wonderful Angel.  She took care of my husband during his chemo treatments and I couldn't have asked for a better Nurse.  I cannot believe she is gone...but it brings comfort in me knowing that she is in good company in heaven with my Steve.  Lisa, you were the best nurse anyone could ask for and you will be greatly missed!

Kottage Kat says

edwalkerfuneralhome.com.

The address is also in the Firelands phone book. 

Have known this family,both the Hites, and the Roswell's. They are wonderful people, and any expression of sympathy in any form will be deeply appreciated by them at this time. Please keep them in your prayers if you are so inclined to pray.

just knowing people care, not the location where that is expressed is often so meaningful at a time like this.

R. I. P. Lisa   Your smile your love of life and your compassion for others will be missed by all of us eho knew you.

starryeyes83 says

Actually, I was responding to the  previous posts  regarding  " the lessons to be learned  from this  event"  more than one person  made references to them.  Didn't they?

But, as always, some of you always seem to jump to your own conclusions.   How about this?   maybe every driver could be equipped with one of those safety hammers to break  the glass under water. I don't know if it would have helped in this  lady's case.      Guess we'll never know. 

turner915 says

and I would like to add that the 911 people and firefighters and police etc......that truly tried to help this woman..Bless you all....no one ca stand in your shoes unless they can fill them...just a sad day for all.

turner915 says

and I would like to add that the 911 people and firefighters and police etc......that truly tried to help this woman..Bless you all....no one ca stand in your shoes unless they can fill them...just a sad day for all.

turner915 says

Look at all this emotion!  First I'd like to say that my prayers go out to the Roswell family and friends, seriously they are in need. Beyond that, all this arguing comes down to one thing...HUMAN NATURE!  If everyone hates the SR so much? WHY are you here reading and commenting?  HUMAN NATURE!  Those that want to blame the governing municipalities for this tragedy...HUMAN NATURE!  People that want to believe someway this should've been prevented?  HUMAN NATURE!  I've lost MANY family members, through tragic accidents and the horrible way disease and just this world can eat you up!  What i've learned is to not question why this person has been freed from this world to move to another, well more blessed and peaceful place they've found, but to just live and cope with the grief that makes us ALL human.  NEEDLESS DEATH?  Aren't they ALL?  To someone...maybe.

Taxed Enough Already says

 So Dick, christians are not permitted to point out stupidity when they see it.  If you will read further in your bible you will see that even Christ became upset with the money changers and what they were doing in the temple and he overturned the tables.  Yes Christians like Christ get upset with stupidity and now to get in touch with one of my other personalities....Momma always said...stupid is as stupid does.  I was just pointing out how stupid the comment was and I don't care who you are to comment that a lesson was learned when someone (mother, daughter, wife, etc) lost their life is STUPID.  As for my typo, that just goes to prove I am human I am not God, but then when I have you around to be my spell check I don't have to watch so carefully...THANKS :)

Place Your Bets says

This is very tragic!  It was  preventable!   That road should have been closed off and someone needs to answer to why it wasn't!!   Everyone knew that creek was going to rise and flood down there, why wasn't someone posting signs before it happened????  This was preventable!!  Terrible, just terrible that this was allowed to happen!!!

Dick Tracey says

@Taxed Enough Already   Wow, that is impressive, the mood of your comments switching so quickly, like a split personality!

You present yourself as a caring, praying ,christian in your comments to the family, and then in a split second, instead of quietly ignoring Starryeyes comment and turning the other cheek (Matthew 5;39), you take time to tell her how stupid and absurd (you spelled it wrong)  her comment was. A christian would just let that pass, turn the other cheek , would he not?

Spoken like a true hypocrite, Taxed Enough, way to let your true colors show.

Taxed Enough Already says

 I am so sorry Mike and family you have been in my prayers all day.  May God wrap his arms of love around  you and may you feel his presence.

Taxed Enough Already says

To Starryeyes you are so right by golly bet she doesn't try that again.....do you realize what a stupid thing that was to say?????  LESSON LEARNED how totally obsurd!!!

Just Saying says

How very tragic.  I would hope that this tragedy prompts education of Flood Safety  to all Dispatchers so the correct advice is given to save lives.  I just googled this myself, and found this "DO NOT underestimate the destructive power of fast moving water. Two feet of fast moving flood water will float your car. Water moving at two miles per hours can sweep cars off a road or bridge. If you are in your car and water begins to rise rapidly around you, abandon the vehicle immediately".

SamAdams says

Those who fault the dispatcher for telling Roswell to remain in the car are wrong. If the water was around her ankles while she was in the car, it was probably knee-deep (or thereabouts) outside the car. People who've waded in knee-deep water may not think that's a big deal, even if it's very cold water. But when water is moving, it's appalling how much force even relatively shallow water can have! I've been on white-water rivers, and there are places were knee-deep water will quite literally sweep you off your feet.

At the time the dispatcher told her to stay put and stay calm, it was almost certainly exactly what she should have done. As the water got deeper, of course, it got even more dangerous. And at that point, she WAS told to remove her seat belt. The worst part of this story by far, at least to me, is that the sirens could be heard coming over the cell phone connection, so we all know that rescue was oh, so close...

And for those who are upset about the details, well, I've worked in the industry (NOT for the Sandusky Register, thank you, either now or previously) and there's an all too true adage where news is concerned: If it bleeds, it leads. I've interviewed a farmer's wife literally hours after her husband was blinded by anhydrous ammonia (won an award for it, in fact). I've been in a mental institution where I was confronted by those dangerous to themselves and to others. I've been on the site of a fatal train crash before even the police arrived. And yes, I reported on it. It was my JOB. It's the job of friends, family, associates, clergy, and funeral directors to do otherwise, not the reporters nor the bloggers.

Publius says

knuckles says

@starryeyes...Its not like she chose to drive into the water!  I highly doubt she even saw it until it was too late, so dont make it sound like she tried to drive through it just to get to work!

The Answer Person says

horrible accident.

I thought the advice to give a person in a car in the water was to GET OUT OF THE CAR!?!?

all the tv shows state this action.

bad advice from the dispatcher.

starryeyes83 says

Turn around and don't drown,   Don't take chances , not even for a job.    Sad but true.

LESSON LEARNED!  

bousha11 says

 @ myownenemy

Then why are you on this site reading the paper if you think its such a waste of time??? Obviously, you think its worthwhile enough to go on the free site to read stories and make comments. Sounds like you're talking out of both sides of your mouth.

Dick Tracey says

@myownenemy   Newspapers are required to have an independant audit to find their circulation, most chose an ABC report, Audit Bureau of Circulations. Most newspapers then use this number on their rate cards, for display advertising, it is also published in the paper itself. To find out any papers circulation you can call them, google it, ask for a rate card or for their ABC report if you really want details. A newspapers circulation is public information and easy to find out. 

Julie R. says

This really is a horrible tragedy but if even one person learns from it this poor woman's death will not be in vain.

Captain Obvious says

@AFriend1 - To add a bit to your thoughts - I was driving to work at the same time this went down yesterday morning.  There was water in spots on the roads that I traveled that has NEVER been there in the past 4 years of driving this route - and you could not see the water until you were practically in it!  There is a huge chance that she never saw the water until she was in it.

NurseMeg says

I am so sorry to hear of this woman's tragedy. She had a great spirit and will be missed. God Bless the family and friends grieving her loss.

Captain Obvious says

@Dick - So if you do not work for the register, exactly how do you know the approximate number of paid subscribers? 

And yes, seeing as how downhill this paper has went in the past few years, people do get on here and criticize most stories.  Truth is the Register used to be a paper worth subscribing to, now I no longer feel that way - which is why I chose not to renew.  Anymore, reading the Register is a lot like reading a tabloid.  It is pretty pathetic.

Afriend1 says

To all of you, both the ones arguing to air the transcript and not to,

Both of you are wrong. The news does have a right to be spread out. To be completly honest, I was curious as to what actually happened as I know her personally. As far as I know there was a 911 call that was disconnected and that was it. This arose many questions of: Did the car go under while she was on the phone or did the phone simply get dropped in the water? Did the car fill up with water while she was on the phone? and also Did the car begin moving or was it stuck in the same spot when she called? Although all of these questions were answered, I do think there was a better way to publish this story. The title Help Me was definetly not needed. Also some of the word useage in this story makes Lisa seem like a story and not a person. News should be interesting and make you feel related to the story not like you are simply observing it. This news company should have respected the family AND done their duty to inform. I think that they simply informed. Although I do agree that the news should have been spread, this took it just a smidge too far. I do not beleive an audio should be posted. And whether the transcript should have been I do not know. However, if the transcript was posted as is the case, it should have been shown in a more respectful light. Maybe next time offer a phone number to help the family? or even an address? 

Also to those of you that say it is her own fault for driving in the water, SHAME on you. That is a horrible thing to say. The city is responsible for blocking off the street, maybe it was a poor judgement call; however, ultimately the actions could have been taken to prevent the situation. You myst remember, it was dark, it was icy, and very muddy. Maybe she did not see the water. If she did, maybe because it was so dark, she did not see how deep it was, Maybe she slid into the water, from the ice. Either way the road should have been blocked off. By saying it is her fault is like saying because a women didn't look both ways before crossing the street and a car hit her, it is still her fault. Yes she had some fault in this, but the car should have been paying attention. Not to mention pedestrian right away. This is just an example but similar in many ways. It was the cities responsibility. The burden of this mistake should in no way fall to the poor woman and her family. This would only taint her memory. Would you really want to do that?????? Would you really be the person to say that she died because it was her on fault???

SanduskyExpat says

It's no different than a doctor delivering bad news?  That's not comparing apples to oranges, that's comparing apples to coffee cups.  If someone was diagnosed with cancer, would the doctor take out an ad in the paper to discuss the personal details of the diagnosis?  No.  It's against the law to discuss it with others who are not the person being diagnosed or someone else they have designated.

Your arguments are ridiculous.

Dick Tracey says

@myownenemy   No, I do not work for the Register or any other newspaper. I love a thing called job security, and newspapers unfortunately are a dying breed, soon to be a thing of the past. Sad but true, there are newspapers closing their doors every day now, just a sign of the times. I would be affraid to work for one right now actually, with circulations falling and readership down, the pink slips are on the rise.

I just pity the reporters and the editors, getting blasted for doing their jobs! Yes it seem insenitive at times, but it's no different than a doctor that has to deliver bad news. Don't kill the messenger.

I am thankful that I do not have a job, that allows the public to hide behind a computer and criticize my every move. I mean the minute a story is posted, everyone out there is proofreading it, criticizing it's lack of content or complaining about it.

Woody Hayes says

Was thinking the same thing, last name Jackson or Westerhold?

Captain Obvious says

Dick - you work for the register don't you?  It suddenly all makes sense now. 

SanduskyExpat says

That's great, but to each his own.  I think the point is that is not appropriate to really force that decision on others.  Your posts just seem insensitive, as does the airing of the 911 call on air and the transcript here.  But that's just my opinion.

Dick Tracey says

@Woody Hayes Yes, Woody, you have my written permission to take a picture of my dead body and allow the Register to publish it on the front page. Why would I care? I would be dead. The people that do care are smart enough NOT TO LOOK! I have raised intelligent children, that in that event, would know better than to read the paper that day, to see the Register doing their job. They also would not write a letter to the Register to complain. 

On average the Register has 20,888 paid readers of print daily, (does not include online) why would I deprive over 20,000 people seeing my dead body on the front page, just becasue my 4 family members might not like it?

@myownenemy Yes, of course, I would feel the same way if it were my family member. I just know that if I chose not to see it I would stay away from it. 20,888 daily readers have a right to see the news they pay for, do not stop the presses just because one of their readers got in a car crash.

Sanduskyregister.com = NEWS

Grofffuneralhomes.com = CONDOLENCES

Foxnews.com = NEWS

Norwalkfuneral.com = CONDOLENCES

SanduskyExpat says

@Dick Tracey, no, I didn't hear it because I don't live in Sandusky anymore.  Hence the username.  I only grew up here.  I would agree that it's not the thing to do either.  And I didn't read the transcript.  I didn't have to read the text to know that it's there.

I just think it's tasteless.  There is nothing wrong with me saying that in a comment, nor is it morally questionable, as are some of the actions here.  I see no positive outcome of airing the 911 call in any form.

lonepalmoh says

Can someone provide an address for the family? Thanks.

Captain Obvious says

@DickTracey - would you feel the same way if this were a member of your family?

Woody Hayes says

Dick Tracey:

So if you are ever killed in a car crash, I DEMAND that the SR put the picture of your dead body on the front page for all to see. After all, it is the news, right?

Dick Tracey says

@SanduskyExpat  Did you go yell at WKYC for running the AUDIO version of the 911? Last night you could actually hear the womans voice begging for help. Did you send them a nasty email telling them they "should" not have done that? Or did you just choose to rip apart your local paper because you "could"?

You should be thanking the Register for only printing the transcripts, they "could" have put up the audio, but chose not to. They have posted the audio version of many 911 calls in the past.

So..you read the transcript,and that is ok, but they posted it and they are bad. Hmmm.

SanduskyExpat says

I do believe in the freedom of the press, but the fact that you ran the transcript of her 911 call is downright disgraceful.  Just because you *can* do something, doesn't mean you *should* do something.  I honestly can't believe it.  Who thought that was a good idea???

My thoughts go out to her and her family.

Dick Tracey says

This blows my mind that anyone would ever think to come to a NEWSPAPER and leave an electronic message of condolence to a family at the time of a tragedy?

What ever happened to a handwritten note taped on the top of a homemade casserole and delivered in person to the grieving family? Whatever happened to going to  a store actually purchasing a card signing it and mailing it to the family? How about sending flowers to the family?

Do you think the family actually has the time or wear with all at this moment to come on here and read you condolences? Any family going through a tragedy has enough problems right now, the last thing on their minds would be to sit and read through you condolences on line, and why would they go to the REGISTERS website to find them?

I think a condolence on a NEWSPAPER website is cheap and heartless.

Dick Tracey says

The Sandusky Register is a NEWSpaper people! This is NEWS. Last night at 6pm WKYC in Cleveland, ran the audio of the 911 call, so actually this transcript is OLD NEWS.

I have had many  thought provoking conversations with my children and friends over this story, it is very much a learning situation. What would you do in this situation, what wouldn't you do, learn from it.

If you want to send condolences, do so in a personal card or log onto the funeral home website, bake some brownies for the family, do something constructive to help the family.

If these NEWS stories and facts are too much for you, then do not log on and read them! Make youself some hot coco and read a romance novel where everything is all rosey.

This is reality, this is news, the Register is just doing their job, reporting the news, no matter how heartbreaking or tragic it may be.

Do you people yell at a heart surgeon when he comes out of the OR to tell the family the NEWS that their loved one has passed? No, you don't because he was just delivering NEWS  that had to be told.

Factitious says

I found the transcript helpful in understanding what happened, and understanding is something we all seek and need in a case like this. If you gotta get angry, go punch a pillow or something, but can we stop attacking?