The Big Dog's back says

 He did that all personally eh frugie?

FruGalSpender says

Roosevelt opened every piece of mail in this country and had censors pouring over every piece, he put Japanese Americans in internment camps, now really would this be allowed to happen today. why didn't roosevelt lock up the germans and italians? german eisenhower would have been locked up. roosevelt was a crappy bass.

frizzlefrap says

would be hard to sacrifice what our parents, grandparents, and great grandparents did during WW2

goofus says

Hmmm, during WW2 Roosevelt opened every piece of mail in this country and had censors pouring over every piece, he put Japanese Americans in internment camps, now really would this be allowed to happen today. Sorry about the moonbat thing.

The Big Dog's back says

 Another time when a Progressive Democrat (FDR) came in and cleaned up after a Repub (hoover) made a mess of things.

goofus says

Hey autistic savant, the 57 states came right from your savior the annointed one.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EpGH02DtIws

There are 57 states of Islam though

6079 Smith W says

6079 Smith W says

@ Hmm:

FDR nationalized a number of industries. Auto production was converted to building planes, tanks, etc.

No new cars were produced during WW2.

He nationalized the railroads. He put in wage and price controls. Rationing existed in gas, spices, butter, meat and other goods.

The U.S. changed from a consumer economy to a war economy. The govt. took up the slack in the spending.

In other words; consumers had little choice in conserving because the govt. controlled so much of the country's services and goods.

Now, our debt-to-GDP ratio is equivalent to WW2 - it ain't sustainable.

We suffered a recession in 1948 from the slowdown in govt. spending and the consumer had yet to pick up the slack.

I disagree, if the Canadians attacked, I think that this country would collectively put down their TV remotes and come together to b*tch about it loudly. :)

kURTje says

Well goof  er  winnie The Marine Corps Times stated why the majority of combat Marines voted Obama.......but I forgot...........you 2are non-vets.       The End.

goofus says

Autistic savant, you'll have to go to that post to see my response

Hmm says

I think you both missed my point.  Goofus doesn't think today's generation has it in them to step up and I disagree.  And I'm pointing out that we were TOLD not to quit spending.  That's why we didn't step up and start conserving, as was the case with WWII.  And for that I'm called a Moonbat.  Whatever...

savantpm says

Just a reminder from a your post on another article; there are 50 states in the United States, not 57.

goofus says

Only a moonbat would equate an event by a terrorist organization with a foreign country attacking a military base coordinated with the takeover of American property in the Aleutians. Get a grip, afghanistan? What record enlistment in an all volunter army are you talking about.

I suppose autistic savant's parents referred to it as Mr. Roosevelt's war. What aristocracy was around during the great depession?

6079 Smith W says

 @ Hmm:

You're conveniently forgetting the dot.com implosion in 2000 - trillions of dollars in equity were wiped out. And then 9.11 caused further economic damage. Greenspan lowered interest rates.

We were in a recession.

So where's Mr. Obama tellin' the American people to sacrifice? He's tellin' everyone to spend, spend, spend via the payroll tax rebate and other tax reductions.

Like it or not, the U.S. is a consumer-based economy. 70% of GDP is dependent upon consumers spending. When people quit spending the economy goes in the cr*pper.

Hmm says

Goofus Bush told us not to sacrifice after America was attacked on 9/11.  He told us the best way to help was to keep the economy going by spending money and not changing our way of life.  And if you recall, people came out in huge numbers to enlist in the war against Afghanistan.

6079 Smith W says

@ goofus:

The fact is that they were scared sh*tless. They saw a world engulfed in totalitarianism and feared for their way of life.

Even a rabbit will fight if cornered.

Also, drafting their *sses helped to supply the cannon fodder.

The American politcal ruling class used all the confusion and fear to it's maximum advantage.

We're still living with the @#$% feds spreading fear and confusion.

Our founders would be agast at how it's been @#$% up. 

goofus says

Do you really think today's generation or previous would put up with the supreme sacrifices that these people endured during WWII. Holy crap Kurt, the democrats wanted to cut and run from Iraq, they'd never have the resolve to take on two powers and a multi front war today. Didn't you learn from Vietnam or in a way the Korean Conflict? The nation as a whole made huge sacrifices, scrap drives,war bonds gas rationing, no nylons, women leaving the comforts of home to support the war effort, air raid drills, and on and on. Today's America would never sacrifice so much!!!

8ballinthesidepocket says

Fact is that if the war hadn't come along to bolster the economy, unemployment would have still been over 10%.  The New Deal was in actuality was a bad deal.  In 1941 the defense industry was almost in full swing helping out Great Britain.  China was a giant rice patty and the cheap stuff had been coming in from Japan and that ended in December of that year.  A different world then and that generation sacrificed like no other for the benefit of each other and the country.

savantpm says

I was born in the 1950's and several friends and aquaintances of mine from our generation are developing 'enchanted' memories.  I feel sorry for them.  I fear they will die angry and sad in some nursing home or retirement community.  Yes, life is filled with trials and tribulations.  It has always been such unless one lives in a cocoon.  We must be actively involved in community to tackle social problems that affect us all.  I am not without sin.  I have no right to judge another's lifestyle or values because we cannot understand each person's experiences.  I am of the impression that my father's (born in 1920) and mother's (born in 1930) generation  were excessively narcissistic and were mainly concerned with social status, appearance and racism, MUCH more so than today!  Thank goodness we are seeing a demise of many country clubs and other social organizations that, generally, foster racism and give people a false sense of superiority!  I grew up with the 'country club' set, and wouldn't wish it on anyone, unless you prefer to remain mired in the unreality of superiority!     

6079 Smith W says

@ goofus:

To the progressives, I thought Mr. Obama is our greatest POTUS ever. Huh.

WPA and other New Deal-type programs would not be cost effective in today's enviroment as many abhor physical labor and machines not shovels are generally used in construction.

Such programs might provide work for Hispanics, but it would be very doubtful for Anglos.

kURTje says

True!     From a family memeber: "I remeber in 1963 dad bought an aluminum American made grain shovel for $8.00. (new) I still use the same scoop shovel today. Dad made $90.00 take home pay back then."            There is good & bad in ANY generation.  To call them greatest is a misnomer & does good people from ANY a diservice.

kURTje says

True!     From a family memeber: "I remeber in 1963 dad bought an aluminum American made grain shovel for $8.00. (new) I still use the same scoop shovel today. Dad made $90.00 take home pay back then."            There is good & bad in ANY generation.  To call them greatest is a misnomer & does good people from ANY a diservice.

goofus says

I see facitious is making things up again, in three terms he never did get us out of the great depression. Keynesian loser!!!

6079 Smith W says

The prices of goods and wages as written in the article and their present (2010) equivalents:

* Average annual income: $2,059 ($30,148.94)

* Minimum wage: 30 cents an hour ($4.39)

* Average home price: $6,954 ($101,824.07)

* Price of gas: 19 cents a gallon ($2.78)

* Price of bread: 8 cents a loaf ($1.17)

* Price of milk: 34 cents a gallon ($4.98)

$1.00 USD in 1941 is presently worth .07 cents.

Inflation is known as the hidden tax, over time it destroys value.

http://www.westegg.com/inflation/

savantpm says

Some of these folks are living with blinders on.  Do the math.  The cost of items for a person making minimum wage in 1941 is porportional to minimum wage and purchasing power today.  In reality, if milk cost $.34 per gallon in 1941, today, proportionate to minimum wage, milk would cost around $8.00 per gallon!  Yes, there were jobs, thanks to FDR's programs, whereas today our major corporations have outsourced most factories and jobs to less developed  nations due to government deregulation beginning around 1980.

I don't think life was so wonderful back then if you were a farmer or sharecropper like the characters in "the Grapes of Wrath", "Tobacco Road" or "God's Little Acre".

The Answer Person says

1941.

I would love to know which theater was still showing SILENT FILMS in 1941 since sound films came out in 1927!

No cliques?  Uh-huh.

"Memory breeds enchantment."

Unabasho says

No innocent times
Young don't know what they don't know
Only innocent age

Factitious says

Greatest President ever.

goofus says

The greatest generation ever!!!!

lor70 says

Nice story!  Times sure are different!