Dead voters wiped from databases

Annie Zelm
Annie Zelm's picture
07:09 AM
Apr 21
2011
Register photo illustration/TOM SHERER
Sandusky

Long after they're gone, some voters still haunt local election boards.

Some cast ballots from the grave when a dishonest voter swipes their identity.

The so-called dead voters raise concerns about fraud and drain government resources.

Then there's the sting surviving relatives feel when they go to vote and see their loved one's name still there, next to their own.

Just before the election, county officials said a final farewell to tens of thousands of dead voters, wiping them from their databases.

Secretary of State Jon Husted recently released a report comparing records of deceased Ohioans from the Ohio Department of Health with the records of active voters, flagging 18,460 who could be casting ballots from the grave.

 

Read the full story in Thursday's Register.




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jerseys123's picture
Aug 11, 2011
10:20 PM

jerseys123 says


 

 

kURTje's picture
Apr 25, 2011
06:49 AM

kURTje says

Sounds similar to an event in Florida regarding blacks &  Govenor named Jed.           But I digress. 

Captain Gutz's picture
Apr 24, 2011
08:07 AM

Captain Gutz says

No brutus, the dead do not laugh.

brutus smith's picture
Apr 23, 2011
09:52 PM

brutus smith says

 Was I suppose to laugh?

Erie County Resident's picture
Apr 23, 2011
01:36 AM

Erie County Resident says

This means brutus can't vote in 2012. He proven time and again he is brain dead.

He just won't fall over and play dead because the big fry timer in the sky hasn't gone ding for him yet.

Centauri's picture
Apr 22, 2011
08:47 AM

Centauri says

If this is really a big issue, how about those republican employees sitting at the computers at the BOE read the obituaries in the SR, get into the voter data and flag that voter.

Or perhaps use the Ohio Department of Health death index? What happened to my earlier comment that I posted this morning?

brutus smith's picture
Apr 21, 2011
10:32 PM

brutus smith says

 hugh, I know unions don't pay taxes. I was asking stupfuss why unions would pay taxes. 

brutus smith's picture
Apr 21, 2011
10:26 PM

brutus smith says

 Free Republic? That's a reliable right wingnut site.

 

 

Kimo's picture
Apr 21, 2011
09:56 PM

Kimo says

This smoke screen takes advantage of the fact the Annie and most of the people reading this article have no idea how the system works and WHO is the system.

If this is really a big issue, how about those republican employees sitting at the computers at the BOE read the obituaries in the SR, get into the voter data and flag that voter. Not all that hard to do, if you want to solve the issue.

Kimo's picture
Apr 21, 2011
09:50 PM

Kimo says

 

Half of the 216'ers on the BOE were/are republicans.

If it was such a big issue why didn't they address it at the meetings?

Like I said, computers have made purging the dead voters, an easy task.

If it is not done, then the republicans are half the problem.

Husted has raised this issue only because the republicans want to make it so complicated for older voters and poor voters that they give up trying to vote.

 It is just another smoke screen to hide the real agenda.

 

Centauri's picture
Apr 21, 2011
07:28 PM

Centauri says

http://www.audacityofhypocrisy.com/2008/11/03/newschannel5-uncovers-thousands-of-dead-voters-in-ohio/

Two years ago, another 5 On Your Side investigation exposed 13,000 dead voters registered in Cuyahoga County. More than two dozen of them cast ballots.

Back then, NewsChannel5 was told dead voters would be removed from the rolls.

Now, on the eve of an historic election — when every vote in Cuyahoga County is considered crucial — our NewsChannel5 investigation has once again uncovered thousands of dead voters still on the rolls, and ballots still being cast from beyond.

Soi's picture
Apr 22, 2011
04:54 PM

Soi says

Jeez. Even on a topic almost everyone can agree on (wiping dead voters from registration) some people still continue on their left vs right game.

I Judge you's picture
Apr 21, 2011
04:41 PM

I Judge you says

I have a couple of days off and was thinking about looking for those Iraqi Weapons of Mas-Destruction. Remember those where are they? Mr Bush said they were real, he promised us they would find them. The day they find those WMD's is the day I start to believe what any politician has to say.

keep doing what you doing cos I need you haters (:
YAWWNN's picture
Apr 21, 2011
04:25 PM

YAWWNN says

@Brutus. Please, you know that unions do not pay federal taxes.  They are considered tax exempt.

“One of the consequences of such notions as 'entitlements' is that people who have contributed nothing to society feel that society owes them something, apparently just for being nice enough to grace us with their presence.” -- Thomas Sowell
Larry's picture
Apr 21, 2011
04:01 PM

Larry says

I DON'T SEE WHAT THE BIG DEAL IS ! MOST OF THE VOTERS ARE EITHER BRAIN WASHED OR BRAIN DEAD ANYWAY. AT LEAST THESE FOLKS WON'T BE UNDULY INFLUENCED

glassman's picture
Apr 21, 2011
03:52 PM

glassman says

 Unfair disenfranchisment of the undead. Zombies are people too, even if they only come out for election day.

tk's picture
Apr 21, 2011
03:36 PM

tk says

After seeing the results of the November 2010 election,  I think some voters were already brain dead, otherwise we wouldn't have this idiot in the statehouse.

6079 Smith W's picture
Apr 21, 2011
03:25 PM

6079 Smith W says

@ Truth or Dare:
 
Ever since the govt. trust busters got into the business of deciding which corps. they would help and which one's they were gonna #$%^ over, certain industries have needed to protect themselves.
 
Here's my point about who gets to decide: 
 
I just heard today that the Sec. Service is buying two armored buses for the Dem and Repub presidential candidates. Should one be provided to each of the candidates from the minor political parties as well? If not, why not?
 
 

Regardless, the country's on an austerity kick and there ain't no way taxpayers want another welfare program goin' to the members of the political ruling class.

And there's no guarantee that the candidate who spends the most money wins anyway.

 

 

"We cannot expect correct policies to be implemented if we don’t understand the cause of the crisis… We have failed to recognize the true cause of the crisis." - Ron Paul, June 3, 2009
Kimo's picture
Apr 21, 2011
12:52 PM

Kimo says

The fact that dead voters were still on the list is not new.

Years ago the lists were only purged every five years, if then.

I was around to see local boards go to computer records, before that everything was paper and pen.

The computer made this issue easy to deal with and if the local board of elections chooses to they could purge the list weekly.

Don't forget that those boards are bipartisan.

This is just a political stunt on Husted’s part.

 

Truth or Dare's picture
Apr 21, 2011
12:36 PM

Truth or Dare says

Hey Smith;, I  don't view Corporations as individuals, anymore than I view a Union as an individual.   Freedom of Speech my arse!  Corporations, and Unions for that matter are already covered under the 1st. Amendment through  freedom of the press!  This is about buying an election, no matter the party affiliation!   

"Campaign laws are so f'd up, that it's mostly only the wealthy that run".  No duh, so how's that work for the everyday, hard-working, tax-paying American citizen?  Whose best interest will they have at heart when campaigning?   I'm even  more disgusted that Donald Trump is flappin his yap, yet not surprised!  Didn't realize the man was such a staunch Birther!   Can't help but wonder how many in other countries, especially China and the Middle East,  are laughing at us all the way to the bank! 

 

Pete's picture
Apr 21, 2011
12:30 PM

Pete says

If it isn't written on the back of a Happy meal he won't look it up

goofus's picture
Apr 21, 2011
12:21 PM

goofus says

Internal Revenue Code 501c5------Look it up!!!!

brutus smith's picture
Apr 21, 2011
12:02 PM

brutus smith says

 Unions don't pay taxes?

6079 Smith W's picture
Apr 21, 2011
11:18 AM

6079 Smith W says

  @Truth or Dare: 

I was asking who gets to decide how the spoils are divvied up, not if you were a commie or a nazi.
 
Would the commies and the nazis get equal amounts of campaign cash as do the Repubs and the Dems?
 
Recently read an article that said that incumbents tend to warn contributors not to donate to their opponents or face later retribution.
 
Know this: The country has been messing with trying to make campaigns fair since the early 20th century and all it’s done is make them increasingly expensive.
 
In 2008, I held my nose and voted for Repub turned Libertarian Barr. Yrs. ago I used to be a member of and worked and contributed to the Libertarian Party.
 
The Supreme Court basically said that campaign money is a form of free speech – I’m OK with that. I don’t want the @#$% govt. deciding who gets what and how many $ each receives.
 
Do you really want to prevent people like Perot or Trump wasting their own personal money?
 
The campaign laws are so #$%^ up now, that it’s mostly only the wealthy that run. Total public financing of campaigns would only @#$% it up more.
 
Ain’t gonna happen.
 
"We cannot expect correct policies to be implemented if we don’t understand the cause of the crisis… We have failed to recognize the true cause of the crisis." - Ron Paul, June 3, 2009
goofus's picture
Apr 21, 2011
10:51 AM

goofus says

YAWWWN, what do Unions and GE have in common, they both don't pay taxes and support the Obozo regime. I wonder if truth or dare pays taxes, he's an obvious Obummer supporter who didn't vote so what does he care!!!

Truth or Dare's picture
Apr 21, 2011
10:46 AM

Truth or Dare says

Hey Smith;  It works both ways and you know that!   Personally, I don't contribute monetarily to election/campaign funds.  Made a conscious choice to stop doing that over 20 yrs. ago.   What they'll get is my vote, but they have to earn it first!  By the way, didn't vote Obama or McCain, they didn't earn my vote,  and am certainly not a member of the U.S. Communist Party, let alone the American Nazi Party.  It would be quite interesting though to see in print who their  funding comes from, as well as allowing full disclosure of all  corporate $$$$'s spent on elections.  All that laundered front-money makes for some hellacious campaign ads at election time!  

  Not holding my breath sir, only holding onto hope.  See, I'm an American first and foremost.  Politcal affiliation doesn't rule over that.  We can see where that's taken us as a Nation.    

brutus smith's picture
Apr 21, 2011
10:17 AM

brutus smith says

 Ahhh sam a, always full of wit and wisdom plus a few other things.

YAWWNN's picture
Apr 21, 2011
10:07 AM

YAWWNN says

@Truth or Dare, The same should go for Unions. Since they are now multi-million dollar corporations in their own right.

“One of the consequences of such notions as 'entitlements' is that people who have contributed nothing to society feel that society owes them something, apparently just for being nice enough to grace us with their presence.” -- Thomas Sowell
6079 Smith W's picture
Apr 21, 2011
09:59 AM

6079 Smith W says

 Truth or Dare writes:

"Campaigns should be publicly financed,  as in by  We The People,"

Tell that to Obama as he amasses his $1 billion re-election campaign slush fund.

And will the candidates of the U.S. Communist Party and The American Nazi Party receive equal public campaign funds as the Dems and the Repubs? 

 This country is trillions of dollars in debt and you want to give even more money to the bozo politicians????

This lame idea has been around for decades - don't hold your breath.

 

"We cannot expect correct policies to be implemented if we don’t understand the cause of the crisis… We have failed to recognize the true cause of the crisis." - Ron Paul, June 3, 2009
Truth or Dare's picture
Apr 21, 2011
09:46 AM

Truth or Dare says

Bout time, now if we can only get an Amendment to the  Supreme Court's brazen  decison regarding campaign contributions from large corporations, which we all know can/will sway an election one way or another. The case:   Citizens United v. Federal Election Commission.   Campaigns should be publicly financed,  as in by  We The People, not bought by a conglomeration of the wealthiest corporations around.    Care to learn more, or help?

 Contact:    Public Citizen @ 1600 20 th. St. NW,   Washington, DC 20009 or call 202-588-1000.  You may also contact their website at  www.citizen.org , also www.worstspills.org or www.democracyisforpeople.org will provide information regarding important issues such as Campaign Finance Reform, Corporate Crime, Congressional Ethics, Corporate Welfare, Drug Safety, Energy Policy, Health Care, Medicare, Nuclear Waste, Prescription Drug Pricing, Globalization, and on, and on, and on.     
 

6079 Smith W's picture
Apr 21, 2011
09:05 AM

6079 Smith W says

Reminds me of the 1960 Presidential election results in IL where it was said that Chicago mayor Richard Daley (Da Boss) was so powerful that he could even make the dead vote.

Will the Dems and the ACLU now be screaming about the loss of the deceased’s voting rights?

The only good Dem is a....?

 

 

 

"We cannot expect correct policies to be implemented if we don’t understand the cause of the crisis… We have failed to recognize the true cause of the crisis." - Ron Paul, June 3, 2009
YAWWNN's picture
Apr 21, 2011
08:59 AM

YAWWNN says

I'll bet the democrats are pissed.  Brutus is probably doubly pissed because now he will no longer be able to vote since he's been dead for a long time. lol

“One of the consequences of such notions as 'entitlements' is that people who have contributed nothing to society feel that society owes them something, apparently just for being nice enough to grace us with their presence.” -- Thomas Sowell
Raoul Duke's picture
Apr 21, 2011
08:51 AM

Raoul Duke says

Deceased voters removed from database.


 

SamAdams's picture
Apr 21, 2011
08:47 AM

SamAdams says

According to the article: "Some cast ballots from the grave when a dishonest voter swipes their identity."

LOL! Identity theft? I doubt it. Check those fraudulently cast ballots, and I'm willing to bet whatever you like that over 90% were cast for Democrats...

Samantha Adams "We keep having to choose among candidates who are so stupid they want the job, and so egocentric they think they can do it." Orson Scott Card
PTBarnumWouldBeProud's picture
Apr 21, 2011
08:46 AM

PTBarnumWouldBeProud says

 First Ohio, then Chicago.  We might even find that after they clear the dead from the voting rolls in Chicago that Sandusky is bigger.  ;)

"Communism doesn't work because people like to own stuff." -- Frank Zappa
Kottage Kat's picture
Apr 21, 2011
08:42 AM

Kottage Kat says

Must have been voting absentee.

Kats Rule, Dogs Drool
goofus's picture
Apr 21, 2011
08:01 AM

goofus says

See 6th story below!!!! LOL

Centauri's picture
Apr 21, 2011
07:34 AM

Centauri says

Secretary of State Jon Husted recently released a report comparing records of deceased Ohioans from the Ohio Department of Health with the records of active voters, flagging 18,460 who could be casting ballots from the grave. Some cast ballots from the grave when a dishonest voter swipes their identity.

18,460 voters will not be able to vote. Why did it have to take a Republican to remove the deceased voters from the list of registered voters? Have any of the votes of deceased voters decided an election?