Feb 17, 2014

Why does the library close when it's cold out?

Do you know why the Sandusky Library closes when it's cold? That would be a good place for people to go when school is canceled. Jason in Sandusky
Sandusky Library director Julie Brooks cited several reasons for closing the library numerous times this winter. On Feb. 7, for instance, the temperature at 10 a.m. — when the library normally would have opened its doors — was 1 degree.
 
Brooks said many library patrons walk to the building, and she is concerned about people's safety when they are outdoors, as the schools obviously are.
 
"We don't really want to encourage people to put their lives in danger," Brooks said.
 
It's difficult to keep all of the library warm during days of extreme cold, Brooks said.
 
"The sliding doors don't really get a chance to close," said Brooks, referring to the main entrance. "We can't seem to maintain an even temperature."
 
Finally, when it is particularly cold, salt doesn't seem to work very well and the library has trouble keeping the sidewalks safe for walking, Brooks said. She said she regrets having had to close the library so often.
 
"It's an unusual occurrence for us," said Brooks, who said she planned to have the library open as usual on Saturday. 
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Comments

IT'S ME

Will tax payers get a refund for the days the library was closed? I don't think the library should close unless the sheriff issues a level 3, it was very frustrating getting to the library and finding it closed a few times this past month!

Factitious

Institutions tend to drift toward operating for the convenience and benefit of the internal culture. Only the best governance and management succeed in resisting that.

This library has not been very good at being available when it's most wanted by the community, and in particular, when students are. That's in part because to do so presents challenges.

The library can't be a homeless shelter, but under the most dire circumstances, there's nothing wrong with it being a place to get warm or cool. And nothing gained by subverting those who manage their time well enough plan their library time when alternative climates are most oppressive.

Unassumer

taxpayers only get a refund once a year if they have overpaid. you don't get refunds if places close or if they don't live up to your expectations. get real.

IT'S ME

Get real? Shouldn't tax payers expect to use services they pay for, only to find they closed for the day because its cold in ohio in the winter?

ladydye_5

I love all the people that cry "Do we get a refund on our taxes because....(fill in the blank)". This is happening more and more. Maybe the librarian used the taxes SHE pays out of HER paycheck to cover that day. Maybe someone who understands why she closed volunteered to pay for that day it was closed. You know OTHER people pay the same taxes. Get off the high horse and the BS. My all time favorite is the one when people tell cops that , "You know I pay your salary?! You work for ME.".....well you do realize cops pay taxes and pay their OWN salary too. That makes them SELF EMPLOYED! LOL

IT'S ME

Maybe it's happineng more & more because people are getting sick and tired of paying taxes and NOT getting the services we SHOULD!

ladydye_5

Oh, well, like I said maybe someone else's taxes paid for the days that it was closed. Not yours.

2grandkids

Or maybe they didn't!

Dr. Information

The library closes when its cold outside because just like most other business's, NOBODY COMES TO IT. Just because one person says it should stay open because they are dumb enough to want to go to the library when nearly everything else is shut down doesn't warrant anything.

Little Giant

The library was closed 9 times in January for weather and for 2 Holidays. I was pretty disgusted the one day when the library was closed and I saw library staff out shopping and another one at the post office. I wonder if the thought crossed their minds that the people at the store and post office made it into work why am I not at my job? Then I went to the bank and noticed that it was 13 degrees out but too cold to open the library?

Imataloss

Or, because when school is closed, parents use the library as a free babysitting service...

SamAdams

...or maybe people should stop being such wienies just because it's cold! Put on another sweater. Wear a hat. Put a scarf over your face. People live in much colder climates than we do here, and they manage just fine. And yes, when it's cold and schools close, and/or some businesses close, the kids still play outside and people still go shopping. The only losers? The kids who are still MORE shortchanged on education, and the places that COULD have offered services, but chose not to.

LNJ4A

EXACTLY! It's winter in Ohio, people. Put on your big boy long johns, and suck it up. I was at the library on one of the days it was closed along with about 10 other cars/people looking at the sign in the door. That was in a 2 minute time frame. I doubt we were the only disappointed visitors that day!

Little Giant

I think I went there the same day. There was a guy who road his bike and a lady who took a cab. Not to mention the other people who walked up to the door and just shook their heads in disbelief. Trust me I will remember this when it comes time to vote when they ask for money again.

IT'S ME

I agree! I always voted for the library but after going there on a bright sunny day with clear roads and finding the door locked because it was cold out really made me MAD!

YoMamma

Did anyone else notice that she danced around the question ?

Licorice Schtick

Methinks the library regime is getting a little stale...

Little Giant

What are the chances the library will be open on Tuesday?

YoMamma

Only if it's not too cold and no one opens a door. We don't want it to get to drafty for them!

BabyMomma

If only books and movies were available online.........well, one can dream can't they?

YoMamma

Just thought of this. With Julies draft comment I fore see a levy in the future to upgrade the HVAC. Next they will close when it gets warm cause the AC can't keep up!

Little Giant

Can't wait until this summer to hear the library is closed because it is too hot. Already heard that they are worried about the patrons making it there in the cold. Just makes sense that the library will close when there is a heat advisory.

SanduskyGuardian

To seriously discuss this matter like intelligent adults we would have to know whether or not the director and staff is still getting paid on days that they are shutting down. That is way too important to know if we are going to discuss this. I would bet the whole pot that the director doesn't lose a dime when she sees a few snow flakes and closes the library down.

dorothy gale

It's the LIBRARY, get over it! It's not like they provide life-or-death emergency services! If the heating system can't keep up on very cold days because the doors get stuck or are opening constantly, why should the library pay for heat that is just going out the door?! So when they ask the community to shell out more money to help pay the heating bill or, god forbid, install a new HVAC system, all you negative complainers will have something ELSE to squawk about! There is just no pleasing some people. I commend Julie Brooks for being concerned about the safety of the public as well as her staff, and as for the claim of seeing library staffers out and about on days the library was closed, how do you know it wasn't that staffer's regular day off? Do you know where EVERY staff member lives and what they drive? Do they all live in town, within walking distance? And how many of the unsupervised children tearing through the library on any given day actually go there to LEARN? They were closed today as well because the county was at level 3. Yes, it warmed up and the snow melted but the director, obviously not as all-knowing and all-wise as some of you seem to be, is also probably not able to accurately predict the future and therefore didn't know the exact moment the level 3 would be lifted and the sun would appear. Maybe when Julie Brooks decides to retire and they search for another director, the job description should add "The ability to see into the future with 100% accuracy 100% of the time; also, the ability to please absolutely everyone no matter how selfish, entitled, negative, or miserable they are."

SanduskyGuardian

Wow such hostility. So much aggression from the pro-library supporters. Talk about defensive. I am just curious why Huron and Fremonts' libraries are open on many days the Sandusky library is not open. I guess their directors are not concerned with the public's safety. I could not imagine how callous and inhumane a person would have to be to run a library in North Dakota or Alaska. Having all those people risking their lives to use the services that their taxes support.
It all boils down to the library is a bunch of slackers who like having free paid days off and really do not care about the public. just look at the way the library has cut their operating hours over the year so their workers get to all have 9-5 jobs with weekends off, a trend that is exactly opposite to the taxpayers work schedules who work in the private sector to support the library.
I do not think anyone needs any more trite comments about whose taxes pay for the library to be open at what time. I actually did the math but let me give you the short form lets say that the library is open some 159120 minutes per year, there are roughly 80,000 residents in the county, 30,000 in the city, I won't break down the funding. I make much more money than the average Sandusky resident and pay far more taxes. But let's just say that the random citizen of Sandusky and Perkins pays to operate the library for 5 minutes per year (Obviously Hoty or FRMC would have blocks of hours) I actually crashed these numbers with some fellers from NASA and a few CPA's over lunch at the club today. We retrieved a phone book did more math and calculated that if we would pay to support our library in alphabetical order the people named Carabin to the people named Carwithin paid for the support of the library to be closed today and denying them the services they supported. Of course it was a moot and stupid silly exercise, done more to prove that we could calculate such a thing, than to prove anything else. Maybe someone ought to rip the pages out of the phone book everyday and show who is the taxpayers supporting the library that day.

dorothy gale

Just a few facts, SanduskyGuardian. I believe 3 days a week the library is open until 8pm, and I also have gone there on Saturdays between 10 and 5 so your comment about a 9 to 5 job with weekends off is incorrect.

dorothy gale

Our tax dollars also go to public schools. Are you just as upset that they close for inclement weather? That teachers get paid for staying home? Or perhaps that a school staff member had the nerve to be seen out and about on a snow day? Where's the outrage?

Little Giant

Apparently Dorothy Gale doesn't realize that schools make up snow days? As far as other libraries, Huron, Fremont, and Port Clinton open earlier, close later and are open on Sunday! Sandusky is clearly being shortchanged. The Sandusky Library used to be open until 8:30 Monday through Thursday and was open on Sunday just a few years ago so it appears they are moving toward the 5 day week that Sandusky Guardian was talking about except 9-5 they are looking at a 10-5 day.

Dr. Information

Make up school days? Really? Most districts are at 9-10 days off right now and the state is about to give them another 4 that do not have to be made up. Hypocrite you are.