Feb 10, 2014

Is the Register going to change the online commenting policy?

There are still too many uncivil and disrespectful comments being posted. Is the Register going to do anything about this? Bob in Perkins Township

We answered this question numerous times in the past, but it's worth being brought up again.

Register multimedia and digital content editor Jason Werling provided the following answer:

The Sandusky Register is in the process of revamping our online presence including our commenting section at sanduskyregister.com. We are looking to improve our community experience at the website by eliminating anonymous commenting but still give our readers the ability to give their 2 cents in the content we provide.

Feel free to comment below on what changes you would like to see as far as comments or any other online feature.

The Mailbag is a daily feature on sanduskyregister.com. Each weekday at noon, we will post one question from a reader and answer it. To ask a question, send a letter to The Mailbag at 314 W. Market St., or email mailbag@sanduskyregister.com. Please include your first name and a location in the email, e.g. “John from Decatur Street."

Comments

mikeylikesit

no matter what the register does bob, you will always be a thin skinned sissy. dont like it? dont read it,,

holysee

HEar here!

Factitious

Every call to end anonymity is about silencing someone.

GoBigLex2001

Agreed! Tired of sensitive folks!

From the Grave

SR, don't let someone else run your business. You know what this is worth to you in the number of hits you get now. Any major changes that make readers spend less time on yours site=bad for business. Kind of like if the Sail In changed it's name to Sober Skipper.

Whoopball

I think it's about time to out the cowardly trolls who are so mean and negative in their anonymity. You have the registration information for the pseudonyms, why not publish the list. That will send your click rate through the roof. And that's all you really care about, right?

Peninsula Pundit

That was sort of 'mean and negative' at the end there, whoop.

Whoopball

Peni, I have spoken personally to the editors of both Norwalk and Sandusky papers and expressed my concern for their business practices. You may think it's mean and negative but I think anonymous commenting is just one more thing contributing to the demise of civility in our society. We should be supporting more respect for one another.

JudgeMeNot

Use your real name.

Peninsula Pundit

Judge raises a valid point, whoop.
I disagree with your thoughts on anonymity, but would respect you for having the courage of your convictions if you used your real name.
The same goes for any anonymous poster who thinks real names should be used. It would also be a public service that if you have a somewhat common name,you'd put your town or address with your name so someone with the same name (or last name) would not have your comments associated with them.

Signed

Erasmus B. Black
The African Princess of Bogo

Contango

Re: "uncivil and disrespectful comments,"

When is the last time that anyone can remember when they saw a mean spirited, personally directed comment toward a poster deleted by the SR?

Looks like the SR fired the moderator a while ago.

BabyMomma

I agree, they used to be way more sensitive

Peninsula Pundit

It would be wonderful if we could just self moderate.
On Yahoo! if a comment gets 8 thumbs down and no thumbs up, it is hidden.
This would be another suggestion I would make for a change to their current set-up.

BabyMomma

I'm a supporter of the thumbs up, thumbs down option.

Unassumer

you know what they call a guy in a pool with no arms and no legs? yup. Bob.

DGMutley

Mercy unassumer!

"Mommy, mommy, why's daddy so cold?" "Shut up and keep diggin!"

coasterfan

I agree. I see a lot more posts by Contango than I used to...

JudgeMeNot

Con posts intelligent comments. Cant say the same for you.

ladydye_5

Its the internet, even if you make people log in with facebook, or with "real names", they can still be FAKE. How will you verify that it is real? We have all seen the commercials on tv, just because it is on the internet.....does NOT mean it is REAL or true! Bon Jour.

mikeylikesit

you are right. i have commented here for just over 3 years. according to the information i gave the register, my first name is mikey, last name is likesit. obviously fake & easy to do. however, when the register decides to change things im not going to bother with another fake internet identity. i will just be gone.. (which im sure will please many)

Unassumer

you shouldn't be afraid to comment as yourself. we should stop being in fear of what we say and think. that's pretty much what the problem is with society these days!

mikeylikesit

im not afraid.

DGMutley

Unassumer, You are democrat and your boss is a republican. I'm sure you're going to step right up and speak your mind. Yeah, right.

Just Because

Remove the comments option all together. Is nice when you see supportive comments, but there is more negative crap than supportive. Not all papers have this option...you don't have to...so why do it. I think it make the paper look as bad as the commentators since SR allows it.

DGMutley

Not necessary to remove them. Just use the Facebook login. Check The Toledo Blade's comment section. There aren't any comments. There are more letters to the editor than comments. Oh well.

OMG.LOL.WT_

I'm sure these comments would be MUCH MUCH LESS INTERESTING (less reason to read) if we had to give our real names. Why don't you do something worthwhile? Bring back the camera.

Unassumer

I really don't see why someone needs my real name. Don't focus on who I am or am not, just pay attention to what I have to say!! he he!

JudgeMeNot

What do you have to say?

DickTracey

I know for a fact that the courts, police, sheriffs dept. and lawyers read through the comments and actually glean useful information and tips from the comments. The Register itself has done spin off stories based on something learned from the comments.

That would all be lost if we used real names and feared the wrath of paybacks.

Julie R.

I've been telling about all the things snake lawyers get away with and you say lawyers read through the comments and glean useful information?

Lord Almighty, I sure hope I haven't given away any trade secrets so they can ALL start doing it now!

DickTracey

Useful information, Julie. Obviously the courts and lawyers know that your paranoia and same old rant is not useful or fact based, and has no merit.

As a matter of fact you were told that January 28, 2014, by Man of the Republic. After you were ranting, your same hatred on the judges, in the mailbag story about cell phones in the courthouse. He put you in your place, yet you continue to spew your hatred.

If you have a problem with judges, do something about it! Clogging up the comment section of the Register website, is not doing anything for your cause. It just makes you look like an ignorant, crazy, tin foil hat wearing old lady with nothing better to do, but repeat the same story over and over.

The Bizness

I really do think she is a crazy, tin foil hat wearings old lady.

Julie R.

To all lawyers out there: Better think twice before starting a bunch of trouble like preparing new fraud Power of Attorneys and new fraud Wills when your elderly clients are in the end stages of Alzheimers. Better also think twice before working in collusion with a snake Lorain County attorney to fraudulently transfer your client's property on a forged POA hidden in Lorain County by falsely stating it's on file in Erie County.

After all, there's a lot of people out there with real short fuses that wouldn't take too kindly to lawyers & other idiots criminally defrauding their mothers at the end of their lives, not to mention you might not have as much clout with the Erie County prosecutor and duh judges in Erie County as my mother's two Huron attorneys and that snake Lorain County attorney & and his snake Lorain County law firm does!

Babo

Julie R: Consider researching Motions to vacate judgment based on fraud or misconduct by officers of the court. Also if the POA is a forgery have you asked to have the person who presented the forged document charged by filing a police report with proof of the forgery?

Julie R.

Been there, tried that. The Huron police chief was Randy Glovinsky.

Enough said.

Babo

Where was the alleged forged document filed? The Sheriff has jurisdiction on alleged crimes in the courthouse. Did you file with the Sheriff of the county where the alleged forged document was filed?

Julie R.

Who do you mean by sheriff? Sheriff Lyons? Enough said there, too. Have you ever dealt with the jokes in the county that I refer to as Baxter & Co.? Believe me when I say, with the exception of that former clerk Barb Johnson, they ALL stick together and if anybody would know that, I sure would. After all, I dealt with those clowns for over 10 years. In fact, I could probably write a book about it!

Babo

You probably should write an internet book with links to your proof.

Anyway if the document is still filed in Erie County and it's still an alleged forgery, you could bring it to the attention of Sheriff Sigsworth. If he doesn't do anything with it you could take it to the AG's office. If that office doesn't do anything with the alleged forged document you could take it to the FBI. In all cases you should have proof that the document is a forgery and keep records of everyone who was informed of the alleged forgery.

Also, you could file a Motion to vacate (with proof of alleged forgery attached) to the Judge of the Court and the Clerk of Court (I'm assuming it's probate Court)to have Judge McGookey address the issue of a forged document in her court. Again, if she doesn't do anything about it, you could file a grievance with the Supreme Court of Ohio's Disciplinary Counsel.

Peninsula Pundit

Perhaps Julie could name her blog, 'Erie Voices?'
Good golly, I miss that site.
And whatever happened to Bryan DuBois?

Contango

Re: "And whatever happened to Bryan DuBois?"

Didn't know the dude personally, but we emailed back and forth.

He wrote that personal issues had taken precedence.

Babo

@ P. Pundit: Well if the SR revises its posting policy, I would not be surprised if a group launched a public interest internet based publication due to demand. However, the site would have to be called something else, because the old Erie Voices domain is unavailable.

I was thinking more along the lines that Julie should publish her story in a book installment format on the web. She could make it a dark comedy satiric piece because the real story is probably unbelievable, but true and not very reader friendly.

Julie R.

Hey DickTracey, I gave out that matter of public record number enough from the auditor's office so why don't you call up the Prudential-Stadtmiller realtor that bought my deceased mother & stepfather's property at that court-ordered scam Erie County sheriff sale and ask him why he was denied title insurance? You might even ask him why some employee at that title company took one look at the title search report and said: "My God! This guy will NEVER get title insurance!" (gee, I'll bet the title company is suffering from paranoia, not to mention all wearing tin-foil hats!)

RES

How about actually making those blogging put their real name on there and the city they live in.

ladydye_5

How can you prove our real names and cities? Are YOU going to come and verify it? My name is Diana VonVinderHolgen from Port Harbor, Ohio

Unassumer

How about you do it. I don't want anyone knowing where I live.

Peninsula Pundit

Lead by Example, RES.
Talk is Cheap.

Ned Mandingo

why would Bob want to censor people he doesn't agree with. if you don't like it don't reads it bob.

BabyMomma

I will be super bored if they take away this format. I enjoy getting people razzed up. Sometimes I'm genuine, sometimes I feel mischievous. It's all fun :-)

Peninsula Pundit

Well, that explains a lot.

BabyMomma

It's the days I forget my meds you need to watch out for :-)

Kobayashi Maru

Make commenters come to the office with a state-issued I.D. in order to sign up for an account. Then the screen name is first and last name, city. Watch the commenters fly off the site. Then the revenues decrease for the paper because they have less hits on the site and can't charge as much per online ad. I highly doubt anything will ever change to the point where we actually know who the commenters are, and that's ok.

starryeyes83

Yes, I'm sure those commenters who live out of state will just do that in a heartbeat.

SR: You've been going to do this for awhile now, Two or three months ago it was the same thing.

If your going to do it ... WHY the delay?

DGMutley

I agree. Let's get it on.

DGMutley

I agree. Let's get it on. (the system's working overtime again)

Stop It

Bob HAS to read it. He can't make himself stop. This is like his favorite soap opera and he screams at the TV or in this case, his monitor.

Bob is setting himself up for a heart attack.

Peninsula Pundit

Leave the comment section as it is, but add thumbs up/thumbs down ala Yahoo!. Sometimes someone says something I agree with and would just as soon 'thumbs up' than write. The thumbs down function is to allow someone to disagree without perhaps writing something regrettable in the heat of the moment. Together, they indicate the local reader's general sentiments and bolster or cast doubt on the comment itself.

SamAdams

Oh, I can hardly WAIT until all of the comments include real names and include nothing but kinder, gentler, more complimentary and agreeable posts...NOT!

The Register can censor (by default if not in fact) all it wants. The soapbox does, after all, belong to the newspaper! That doesn't mean I'll be bothered to participate or even to read anything if it does so.

I typically learn more from the comments than the articles a good percentage of the time, and most of the most educational comments are critical in nature. Are there a couple of people I'd love to see shut up? Sure! But I'll put up with a little nonsense to get the benefits from the other end of the spectrum.

I'm certain I'm not the only one who feels this way. So go ahead, Bob. Keep whining until you don't have to listen to anything you find offensive. Go ahead, Register, demand real names. And y'all can keep each other company and reinforce your own sensibilities amongst yourselves while the rest of us move on. And trust me, more than a few of us WILL.

Julie R.

I haven't seen any comments by Centauri for quite awhile. Wonder why.

deertracker

What happened to wiredmamma?

BabyMomma

J/J

deertracker

I never knew that! RIP!

Julie R.

I saw wiredmama a few weeks ago. I recognized her from when she was on Between the Lines with Matt Westerhold. I was going to say something to her --- maybe ask her why she wasn't commenting anymore, but I decided not to.

slightthroat212

@Julie....you should have talked to her....she would have loved it. She has been very ill and would have loved it. They are moving soon and she would have appreciated the saying "hi". I am here to help them move and am staying with them. She is a great lady and very smart!!!!!

Julie R.

I always enjoyed wiredmama's comments and I was disappointed when she stopped commenting. We didn't always agree but I always respected her point of view; in fact, a few times her comments changed MY point of view and believe me that doesn't happen very often. If I ever see her out and about again, I will talk to her. In the meantime, tell her I wish her well and I'll pray for her recovery.

slightthroat212

@ deertracker....she got bounced off her for diasgreeing with Westerhold. She is my sister in law I know she like YOU and many others on here. I hear your name mentioned and others. It broke her heart to get banned from here. He can't take being diagreed with. It was one of the few things she had being home all the time. Poor judgement on his part I would say...she had a heart attack right afterward. Did any of you know that??

deertracker

I didn't. I enjoyed reading her comments as they were usually sensible and thoughtful. I am glad she is alive and getting on with her life. I find it odd that she would get banned even after appearing on BTL. Please give her my best!

BabyMomma

Boy I look like an a$$ right now don't I tracker?!?! I feel bad now.

DEATHnTAXES

@slightthroat.

I'm surprised you and Wiredmayhem get along. You want City Manager Ard gone--Wired thinks Ard is the next best thing to sliced bread.

mikeylikesit

i miss taxpayer..

LabMan

+1 HA HA HA

mikeylikesit

i really do. there are others from here and the reflector site too. cjbell019, slim white, huronguy, but taxpayer was my true inspiration.

Ralph J.

I miss taxpayer also. He was a true comic. My guess is that the Democrappers and Unions hated his wit.

John Harville

...and there goes the namecalling again.

mikeylikesit

it's only name calling if the shoe fits..

Ralph J.

Please explain John. You lost me

mikeylikesit

you're not allowed to pick on democrats. thats racist. it's also disrespectful of the dead, seeing as how so many democrat voters are dead..

Ralph J.

Does that include the zombies who go out to vote?

mikeylikesit

dead, zombies, illegal aliens..

The Big Dog's back

Ahhhh democrappers. I haven't said right wing... at all today.

Ralph J.

How much is that doggy in the window. Arf Arf.

LabMan

I liked him as well and agreed with his thought pattern a lot.

Julie R.

I miss Taxpayer, too. I miss Centauri even more. I even miss the sarcastic attacks I used to get from Bryan DuBois about "tin-foil hats" when he was posting under his real name ...... but then again I think he's now posting under another name so it's all good. (chuckle-chuckle)

DGMutley

Hey, I miss Taxpayer. For all the controversy he caused he should have been on the payroll.

Rosa

People say what they are really thinking if they are anonymous. It's good to hear! You know the saying "The truth will set you free!!"

ladydye_5

Actually I commented on a story on Facebook the other day. With my REAL name. It was story from a news channel. I made a comment without looking at the name. Come to find out it was someone my husband used to work with. She thought "name dropping" and hinting she knew my husband would change my opinion or comment. It didn't. I continued with my line of thinking and my opinion of her comment. So I started with a comment not knowing who the person was, and continued with the same train of thought even after she "knew" my family/husband. Anyone who does know me, knows I will tell you exactly how it is.

BabyMomma

So you're a b!tch....NBD

ladydye_5

If that is what you want to call me go ahead. You are in good company. The fact is I do NOT hide behind my name. I will also tell you I am NOT offended by the fact you call me that. LOL. I stand proud.

BabyMomma

I can tell that by your comments. I wasn't trying to offend, most of my favorite women are b!tches. I'm a prick so it works.

Peninsula Pundit

'BabyMomma,' but you're a prick?
Is your pill container marked 'Monday' still full?
Or are you representing for the LGBT community?

ladydye_5

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thinkagain

OK I’ll come clean, my name is Voorhees A. Jollygoodfellow.

mikeylikesit

i knew that

nosey rosey

The problem with commenting and using your real name is that there are way too many whack jobs out there who have no problem crossing the line and making things personal. And by that I mean they will track you down and harrass you - or worse. It has absolutely nothing to do with civility.

mikeylikesit

let em track me down. they will regret such a foolish decision..

SamAdams

Amen!

I'm actually afraid to put political yard signs out during campaigns because I've seen the vandalism that results when somebody walking by...uhm..."disagrees" with what you think. I'm sure as heck not using my real name in an even MORE public venue, thanks!

Does anonymity change my opinion? Nope. Does it change how I express my opinion? Not at all (though I keep it cleaner here than I do in casual conversation). But would the LOSS of anonymity change things? Oh, yes, in virtually every way. Sad, but true. That's not a comment on ME (or on you, Nosey Rosey), but we all know SOMEbody will overreact and things will snowball from there. We've seen threats HERE, for heaven's sake! And that's when people DON'T know who we are!

Peninsula Pundit

A very valid point.

BabyMomma

The names Mehoff. jack Mehoff.

Tacman22

I rarely get out here but it seems to me it is the same group of people with their witty screen names on every article,
Most are just a fountain of negativity and they're trying to out wit one another.
Seems to me like you guys really need to find a hobby, instead of sitting behind that keyboard dictating, spitting out hateful comments. Same little witty screen names are in all these blogs. Could possibly a little therapy be in order?

ladydye_5

This IS my therapy. LOL

BabyMomma

This is my hobby. ( when I'm home with my kids )

Dcfred20036

I'm sure there is a happy medium. The SR could require people to verify who they are-- say through a phone code or tying the account to Facebook-- but still allow people anonymity when using their public handle. Sandusky is a small community, and it might be hard to get honest comments on controversial topics from the readership if people have to use their real names. Good case in point: the recent firing of Brian Panetta and the comments, pro and con, associated with that story. Good moderation of the thread is always the key, and regardless of what system the SR implements it will still need moderators to remove postings that are libelous in nature.

Tesla

The comments section is the best part on this newspaper's website.

Dcfred20036

I agree, Tesla. And reasonable people can have honest disagreements without having to resort to personal attacks.

John Harville

reasonable being the key.

rjk1915

I like the comments, they are a good cross section of the Register's community, perhaps an accurste realistic picture. Most readers are able to discount personal biases and incompetencies.

John Harville

Well, you just insulted 2/3 of 'the Register's community'.

Ralph J.

There are way too many crazy people out there. If they do not like your comment, they will hunt you down and cause much harm. What about employers who will fire you because of your comments. http://geekfeminism.wikia.com/wi...
What is Bob's last name and what is his street address.

meowmix

I'm with Penisula Pundit-- I love the thumbs up, thumbs down idea.

Sincerely,
Seymour Butts

John Harville

Well... someone on here thought they had IDd me by "brew"ing a 'veiled' identity. Unfortunately - and the moderator allowed it - the person Sandusky Mom thought she was outing, actually got an enlightening call from a friend about it.
Gannett tried requiring comments to be on Facebook with a resultant no comments.
When someone actually makes a threat against another, the Register has a responsibility to followup. What if something really happens - or already has happened and the connection just hasn't been made?

The Big Dog's back

Me too!
Ben, Ben Dover.

meowmix

LMAO Dog!!! Now, excuse me as nature is calling.

I.P. Freely

The Big Dog's back

OK Seymore.

EdgeOfTheH20

^^ Husband & wifey ^^

rippedhippy1

Sure. Turn this paper into another Fremont News Mess. First they did away with the forums, then went to Facebook format. Nothing but crickets there now.

ladydye_5

They also make you pay to read it. You only get a limited about of articles for free every so often. I scan the headlines and do not read or comment. This would be my "local" paper, but since you cannot open the articles due to not paying for them....it is mostly worthless.

mikeylikesit

just clear your browsing history. it will be free again for 10 articles. after that, do it again..

ladydye_5

Thanks for the tip.

Ralph J.

Chirp Chirp Chirp. Why am I wasting my time chirping.

John Harville

How about limiting the number of comments on any story/topic with the only exception being responding to a personal attack like being called a Marxist?

Ralph J.

Are you a Marxist, John. Please share your home, food and money with those who are needy.

Contango

Re: "being called a Marxist?"

Why do you find the term "Marxist" offensive?

Socialism, communism, Nazism, Leninism, Maoism and many other 'isms,' can trace their origins from Marx's writings.

Read von Mises' monumental work: "Socialism."

John Harville

Read all that in high school.

Unassumer

What one person thinks is 'uncivil' someone else might think it's funny. If a person can't speak what's on their mind within reason, of course, then what's the point of having a comment section. Most of the comments are predictable and some are ignorant but that's life. One should be able to express their opinions even if others don't agree with them. If you like censorship, then yes, by all means go for abolishing commenting but so far we still have free speech, don't we Duck Dynasty?

John Harville

If someone clicks 'inappropriate' and the moderator decides it'a not 'inappropriate', have the decency to email the one who 'clicked' it and explain why it is not 'inappropriate'.

Ralph J.

What is your email addy, John.

John Harville

john.harv.................com

Yours?

John Harville

The Moderator knows....

meowmix

Reading these comments fills a void in my life for some reason. I'd really hate to have to start searching for a new outlet.

Truly yours,
Amanda Hugankiss

Steve P

They monitor the blogs, dare to disagree with the management and you will be banned.

John Harville

I disagree with them all the time... even challenge them. And like the song says "I'm still here...."

Up till now, anyway.

milemarkerzero

Man, I got a spanking from the moderator a few weeks ago, and never mentioned a name. This Julie R. gets away with slanderous murder, and is not banned. Does she/it have an in with the SR?

Julie R.

I wish.

mikeylikesit

maybe because it's the truth. her story has remained consistent all this time..

Dr. Information

Go to FB login or pay to post option. Proceeds go to a good charitable cause. Have to option to have posters moderated (if they are using fake FB names) which are easy to tell and have them banned. Eventually the troublemakers will stop making fictitious FB names.

Stop It

So you think. There are so many ways around this it's not even funny. Do you know anything about IT doc? Or are you just talking out your back end?

Dr. Information

Easy to figure out the fake accounts. Usually are the ones who bully and nit pick. In that case, permanent ban. Its not hard to moderate.

John Harville

So. Are you a Phd, Dentist, MD,.... "Dr."?

Stop It

lol...If I were to show you a hole in the ground and another hole in the ground with a line through it, which one would be your butt?

Stop It

Someone says something you don't like and they get gone? Is that the way you think, doc? Frip up the first amendment, and I promise your house will be the first I visit with the second amendment behind me.

Now, do you still want your name and address up here? All I am doing is claiming my rights.

Dr. Information

@stop it. Awe, yet another online threat to harm someone. I have never had a problem posting under my FB account because I don't attack people or let alone threaten someone to come to their house with my gun acting like some big shot with a peashooter. Real man you are!

John Harville

You really think pigseardrunkonskis is a real FB name?

Dr. Information

Thanks for proving my point.

Dr. Information

Thanks for proving my point.

Tacman22

SMH

Darwin's choice

Well,good luck with any of this!

I still don't like obama, big dog, coasterfan and the rest of you obamabots.....and will continue to post accordingly.

The Big Dog's back

I disagree with you but I don't know you well enough to dislike you. And Post on, cause I will.

Darwin's choice

^This^, "don't like" is too strong, but disagree with prejudice sounds better.

John Harville

are you a bottom or top teabagger?

Darwin's choice

Crawl back under your rock, johnfan! Troll!

You should be the first person banned.

Jerk.

Ralph J.

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