Jul 30, 2013

What are the financial particulars of Perkins Schools?

Can you obtain financial information for Perkins Schools? This would help myself and others make an educated decision for the Aug. 6 levy vote. Doug in Perkins Township.

The question sought to answer exactly how much each Perkins Schools official — including teachers, administrators, staff members, and elected school board members — makes in addition to inquiries about the athletics budget.

Perkins Schools treasurer Lisa Crescimano provided the Register with numerous documents detailing this. To view the information, click any one of the files attached.

The district is proposing a 10-year, 6.73 mill emergency levy to taxpayers a week from today. If approved, the levy would generate $2.88 million per year to fund day-to-day operations for Perkins Schools, including employee salaries and benefits.
 
If approved in a week, the levy will cost the owners of a $100,000 home an additional $206 per year. That same homeowner currently pays $998 a year in school taxes.
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Comments

believeit

Your source is SR Blogs? The laptop program has rarely been called free. Even the district acknowledges that. While the cost versus benefit can be debated, most in the real world (those doing the hiring in today's technological workplace) have stated that more technology expertise is needed, not less.

fifteenthgreen

My source is from figures supplied by the treasurer.

Bherrle

They do not buy new computers every year. It does not cost "millions per year." It is under $300,000 per year. This issue has been discussed a month ago now. Why do people insists to continue to bring up the same issues, with the same mis-information, over and over again?

Fraud? BobShumay said something earlier that I agree with here. Someone should sue - you Suitcase Simpson - for liable or slander.

Wake up Perkins, stop listening to the fear mongers and trollers.

fifteenthgreen

They lease the computers and I'll go back and get the exact dollar figure for you....again. "under $300,000" is incorrect and misinformation on your part and you know it. RMyer and the district treasurer provided the exact figures and you were involved in those detailed discussions.

RMyer

From the district treasurer as previously posted regarding the laptop cost. Prior to the laptop program the district budgeted approx. $250,000/yr. for technology expenses:

"In this lease there was $200,000 in computer expenses for the elementary buildings which left a net lease amount for the one-to-one laptop initiative at approximately $1,279,000
We received $363,000 for the trade in of the old laptops, leaving about $916,000 for the actual net cost of the new laptop lease

We intend on keeping the laptops for 4 years instead of 3.

If I calculate $916,000 by 4 years, the annual hardware cost is $229,000"

fifteenthgreen

If the annual hardware cost of the free laptop program is $229,000 per year as you've stated, we could save possibly four to five of your peers jobs by eliminating one program. That's based on your average Middle School annual salary of $58,791.45, RMyer...as posted by the treasurer. Four to five jobs annually! Why not let the students lease them from the school as a lab fee at an annual cost of what per student? Why simply provide computers to the students for free when teachers are losing their jobs?

lifetimeresident

I really wish the Sandusky Register would not of put these salaries online. This just changed my Vote. These salaries do not coinside with the area residents salaries that are paying them. This is no longer a rich township. I didnt know the schools made a big profit. If they did, then share the wealth with all their employees. If they dont, then do what everyone else is doing. KBI?Ford?Chrysler? Sorry. Closed.

PyrkinsPyrate

How can you seriously wish that you had less information available to make a decision? I applaud the Register for posting these numbers and all the other governmental salaries. I think it is of great service to the community that the taxpayers find out how much they are paying their overlords.

believeit

School districts do not make a big profit. This levy is to prevents a several million dollar deficit. And you are honestly saying that schools should simply close like a factory?

Gardenman

I find the supplemental contracts interesting. You see 5,6, 7 thousand $$$ in some instances for a coach of this or a coach of that. It does not say but lets now take those figures and mark them up 13% + for the Board contribution to STRS retirement. You got even more money.

After seeing those amounts I think of the volunteer coachs of little league, biddy wrestling, Saturday baskeball programs at this or that rec facility and those folks get no salary at all. They give of their time and effort. Yet in the SR you see these coaches splashed all over the sports section in all they give all to this or that team.............hmmmm makes me wonder next time when I read it ....Well you should give them this or that for you are getting paid for it ....this is not volunteer effort on your part here YOU ARE BEING PAID for your time. AND yes yada yeda yada I know if you divided these school coaches time into what they got paid it would be cents an hour BUT lets not skip by the fact they are getting PAID be it however small they are still PAID from our tax dollars.

believeit

Being paid "cents per hour" is robbing the taxpayer? Really?

fifteenthgreen

I could care less about the Sports supplementals. I feel they should be compensated for time or service after school. This garbage of double dipping because you travel between schools, are a department head, etc... and are supplemented for it is crap. If it occurs during the school day it is all the same.

believeit

It's not double-dipping. Teachers are paid their salary for teaching their assigned subjects and classes. Why should work beyond that be done gratis? Would a factory (or any) worker work an extra job beyond their assigned duties just for fun?

fifteenthgreen

They are getting paid additional supplementals to teach at two separate schools. That's it. That is what those two supplementals are for. Their drive time between Briar and the HS. In addition to their salary.

fifteenthgreen

$65,000 gym teachers. Come on, man! That's a huge salary to pay a teacher to teach Mat Ball!

believeit

From someone who is so against education, I would love to see you in the classroom for even a week (including a physical education class). You would quickly find that handling over two hundred different students in a day (of multiple abilities) is not as easy as you may think.

fifteenthgreen

I've witnessed those intense lap(s) around a track or that awesome game of tennis baseball. Long nights of lesson planning going on there. The "multiple abilities" kids usually are on the outside looking in, but that's another topic of discussion. Two hundred? That's it!

believeit

It is now quite obvious you have no idea what it takes to be a teacher.

fifteenthgreen

I bet I could teach a mean kickball game for $65,000 plus.

believeit

Again,it is now quite obvious you have no idea what it takes to be a teacher.

fifteenthgreen

I certainly could nurture the mind of a child teaching them the art of ping pong or badminton.....for $65,000 plus, plus. If I have to teach both, though and have to travel all that way between schools, it's gonna cost ya big time!

believeit

If it so easy (and the benefits so awesome), get your master's degree in education, find a position and go for it. By the way, if you think education is simply ping pong or badminton, where did you learn to write to contribute to these blogs?

PyrkinsPyrate

I am intrigued by the assertion that the Perkins school board is paying someone to blog in favor of the levy. It would be no shock that our tax dollars would be unethically squandered like that. But one would think that the $95,000 per year communications director should have it covered. I am amused that one of the most hardcore yet reasonable and well polished pro-levy blogger is some guy with no roots in our area who suddenly showed up on the Register blogs and began intensely supporting the levy. It makes one suspicious.

Bherrle

Go on PyrkinsPyrate, continue your accusation. Of whom do you speak?

PyrkinsPyrate

Of all people to wonder!!!!!! Of course all of us are content believing that a person could move to the area and immediately demonstrate their arrogance and hubris by entering into the local political discourse before their mail even catches up to their new address. Why would someone become such an ardent supporter of the BOE without taking the time to learn the lay of the land? Because they are paid? I just can't believe a grown man could call such a thing a job, if it is true.

Bherrle

PyrkinsPyrate,

Make no mistake, "arrogance and hubris" are being displayed aplenty by you and anyone else who chooses to make or believe outrageous, baseless, and completely speculative accusations such as you have just done. How far will you stoop, how low will you go, in your attempt to try to smear those who disagree with you, and the school district? Have you no shame? Why is it that you, and some others who are against the levy, can't stick to facts and civil opinion/conversation? Rather, you sit back and hatch wild conspiracy theories, with no fact or proof behind them, and defame people in the process by the mere suggestion of impropriety?

A couple other points that I feel display the "arrogance and hubris" of which you speak. It doesn't take two years for mail to catch up to a new address. Nor is there a mandatory time period that one has to wait before getting involved in his community. The land is pretty flat here. Contrary to what some think, you don't have to have lived here all your life to understand the issues, and to understand what is going on.

Why would someone become such an ardent supporter of the BOE? Because he was tired of seeing people who behave like you dominate the message. Because he thinks this is a great community, and he wants it to stay great. Because he thinks the BOE is doing a good job, and is making good, sound, long-term decisions that are in the best interest of the community, despite knowing that they will get criticized by some for it.

To be clear, I am not paid by anyone. And "I just can't believe a grown man (or woman)" would suggest otherwise. Of course, its pretty easy to do behind a fake screen name. Will you "man up" PyrkinsPyrate, and put your name to it? Who are you? I've told you my name, please, tell us yours?

PyrkinsPyrate

It is outright comical how hissy and injured you can pretend to be while acting like it is the opponents of the levy that are guilty of lies, deceit and subterfuge. It is your boy Gunner that has changed his story and opened ended definitions and moved around the inside millage to undermine the voters' clear mandate against a new school. They have played dirty and without regard to the voters-and frankly I am tired of having to keep going and voting "No" all the time. So you can save your condemnation about being civil, your side started playing dirty a long time ago. Keep in mind we grew here, you flew here after failing at a number of other ventures out where you belong, so you decide to come here and mix it up with people. That takes some nerve.
Your side has the trust problems. Nobody is going to believe anything that you say. Your side still refuses to clearly deny that the money will not be used for a new school if some vague definition of financial stability is met. A few of the over leveraged parents support Gunner because they want the community to pay for their children's entertainment, but the majority of the supporters are fools that can not realize that this community is nothing more than a stop on Gunner's aspirations and he wants to add "oversaw the construction of a STEM Campus as superintendent" to his resume. Us local people who belong here and deserve to be part of the decision making will be saddled with decades of debt so Gunner can pad his resume. Can't you see that his whole rent-the-laptops is just part of his doctoral thesis?
I am tired of your being so fake (i.e."Please help me to understand why Gunners residence is an issue"). You want to come on here and pretend to be open minded but your agenda is set. You don't care about hearing the other side out, just dedicated to parroting the talking points over and over. Do you really trust these men (BOE and Gunner)? You are nothing but their tool and brainwashed mouthpiece, does it soothe the self esteem that such great minds rely upon you?

beborcott

100% agree. Great comment!

DLK

Best comment on here!

Bherrle

Pyrate,

No, what it is, is outright appalling what some people will say, without having to put their name on it. It goes directly to your credibility. You chose to make a baseless allegation against the BOE and me personally. No facts to back it up, just conjecture. Why is it you are not willing to put your name behind it?

Speaking of facts, let's set a few straight. The Comm. Director makes $65,000 per year, not $95,000. Yes, I have tried some things in the past 7 years that haven't worked out as I thought they would, but I was relocated here by a company who offered me a promotion. If you want to attack me for taking some chances, and trying different things, go ahead. I have a right to state my opinion just like you do.

As for the rest of your comments, I don't see Dr. Gunner trying to pad his resume. In my opinion, had he wanted to do that, he could have left education for the IT world a long time ago. I'm not at all fake, and I'm not pretending. I say what I mean. If I don't agree with something, I'll say it (such as the issue of Dr. Gunner's residence.) I am open minded. Make a factual argument. I'll hear that out. Tell me how you would address the funding and facility issues. I'll hear it out. If you want to accuse and make false statements about people's intentions, I won't hear that out, I will refute it.

You can say what you want, but I am my own man with my own mind. Yes, I trust the BOE and Dr. Gunner. They do not rely on me at all.

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