Nov 20, 2012

When do officers enforce noise complaints?

Hi! I was actually wondering if you could find out for me in the city of Sandusky how many times that the cops have to be called out to a house with a noise complaint before they actually do something about it other then tell them to turn it down a notch. I live next to these neighbors who blast their music so loud each and every single night to the point that it some times wakes my little children up. I call the cops every night and nothing is ever done about it because they turn it down and the next day they are doing the same thing the very next night. They have no respect for any one that lives around them. Thanks — Dawn in Sandusky

Our police reporter Emil Whitis stops by the Sandusky police station every day to collect reports for the police blotter, so I asked him to talk to an officer about your question. Here are a few tips he got about noise complaints:

1. Make sure you tell the dispatcher about your previous complaints when you call in a new one. It might help to write down the times and dates of complaints you call in, so you can back up your record of making complaints.  It's important to tell the dispatcher about the previous incidents so officers know they're dealing with a repeat noise offender before they arrive at the location. And, if you get a chance to talk to the officers when they arrive, make sure you reinforce with them you've called many times. (Editor's note: If you really want to get serious about documenting this problem, you can go to Sandusky police department during normal business hours and request all of the incident reports regarding noise complaints you've made. That way when officers ask how many times you've called you can show them the stack of reports. This might also be helpful to see what officers actually told your neighbors when they made contact with them, and if there was a citation issued.)

2. The officers actually have to hear the noise themselves before they can issue a citation. So don't alert your neighbors to the fact you're calling the cops. If all is quiet when the officers arrive, they can't do anything about the complaint.

3. There is no magic number for when officers will write a ticket for a noise violation. As you noted, officers will typically just ask the violators to keep it down. If officers have to go to a house twice or more in a single week though, there's a greater likelihood the noisy neighbors will get a ticket.

Hope this helps!

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Comments

rickross2

Maybe instead of calling the cops like a little sissy, just walk over and ask them to turn it down. People are so quick to call the cops on someone instead of being a adult about it. Then after calling the cops day after day does nothing, you write into the Register to try and solve your problem. Be an adult, or have your husband/baby daddy go talk to them. The last thing I would do is call the cops on my neighbor. Good grief!!!

Factitious

Calling the cops is not "sissy." It's good sense. The kind of person who commits this sort of incivility, especially repeatedly, is not generally receptive to a polite requests. There are two likely outcomes, and both of them are bad. They either ignore the request, or worse, respond with beligerence that could escalate.

The Mailbag's reponse is disappointing. Sandusky has a detailed noise ordinance with quantitative limits that considers time of day and other circumstances (Chapter 519 - Noise Control, see link below.) The fine is $300 for the first offense and $500 thereafter. Each day is a seperate offense, and the ordinance supports civil action, too.

The ordinance requires the City Manager to appoint a Noise Control Administrator, so a victim should also ask to talk to that person in addition to filing a complaint.

People tend to dismiss these problems as trivial, but they contribute to decline of neighborhoods and chase good people away. The police should know better than to blow off noise complaints.

519 The whole ordinance:
http://www.conwaygreene.com/sand...

519.06 Maximum sound levels and times:
http://www.conwaygreene.com/sand...

519.99 Penalties:
http://www.conwaygreene.com/sand...

rickross2

I'm not saying thats all you do. Just saying that should step #1. I guess now that everyones entitled to everything, they dont have to talk to their neighbors, the police owe it to them to settle simple, trivial issues. This lady is sissy

starryeyes83

Have you met her neighbors? Have you met her? I happen to agree with Dawn, there are just some people YOU don't confront on your own.

rickross2

I had originally typed her or her husband should go talk to them. The moderator didnt like it.

Sarah Weber

I reviewed you comments, rickross2. I don't think they violate our commenting policy so I restored them. Thanks!

starryeyes83

There was no reason to call the author of the letter a sissy.

starryeyes83

Oh, I see. BUt maybe she's by herself.

Kelly

You have no clue how many times she might have already asked the neighbor to keep it down.

rickross2

Moderators have removed this comment because it contained Personal attacks (including: name calling, presumption of guilt or guilt by association, insensitivity, or picking fights).

Kelly

*eyeroll*

SamAdams

I have to agree with rickross2. While some people just plain don't care about anyone but themselves, others have no idea how much the noise is carrying beyond their own windows. I've had problems with noise, too, and, with the exception of one pair of winners, everyone was apologetic and immediately lowered the volume.

One notable exception: If you're AFRAID (beyond shyness, I mean, or just not wanting to rock the boat), call the police. It isn't worth getting hit or worse just to see if you can turn the music down!

starryeyes83

Ya think maybe when the windows rattle it's a little loud.

When ya can hear or feel the vibrations two blocks away ... it's too loud..

I lived across from this one guy who KNEW it was too loud.. He did it to annoy the rest of us... Then his house was foreclosed on :)

Oh, happy day! Guess maybe, he should have spent the money on his bills rather than the high dollar sound system.

doratheexplorer

I completely agree with Rick Ross 100 percent

rickross2

I would be careful saying stuff like that!

doratheexplorer

Love your neighbors :) you never know u might need a cup of sugar one day and they might close the door in your face.

rickross2

In my neighborhood, we watch out for each other. If I see someone that doesnt look on the up and up in my neighborhood, I walk right up to them, introduce myself, and ask if I can help them. I dont peek out the window and call the cops. Be social people, good grief. Dora gets it :-)

starryeyes83

That's real easy for a guy to say.

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BW1

What a sexist sentiment

starryeyes83

Too bad, it's the truth, and no more so than what rick posted. Did you jump on him?

Most women aren't gonna go confront those people , most especially, if it's a pattern with them.

Don S

Most of the time, when people repeatadly play their music loud, after the police have been there, they are looking for a confrontation. So, calling the police is the safe and correct thing to do. Not everyone wants to be a good neighbor.

starryeyes83

@ dora ...Then I dare YOU to go over to those neighbors and ask them to turn the music down. I dare ya. No body borrows sugar anymore.

deertracker

What exactly is "the up and up"? What do you do when they say "no thank you" and keep walking? Unless they are on your property or committing a crime, it is none of your business.
The music has to be either REALLY loud or your homes are very close to each other to wake up the kids. It's really about respect. I would have no problem asking my neighbor to turn down the volume so my kids can rest. FYI...if you need sugar Krogers sells it!

rickross2

Moderators have removed this comment because it contained Personal attacks (including: name calling, presumption of guilt or guilt by association, insensitivity, or picking fights).

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2cents

LOL, Brings back a memory of a neighbor with a new CB radio that would block the TV all night long by transmiting through the antenas. Dad walked over with a pair of side cutters and snipped his antena cable in two places...

The guy was a cop but not a word was ever said, he only played on it after us kids were in bed from then on.

doratheexplorer

You can buy sugar at Krogers? Really? I am gonna have to go see that for myself... I meant hypothetical sugar. But thank you for the referral I didn't realize. #onelove

totallyamazed

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If I hear music in my house from the neighbor's house, you better well believe it I'm calling the cops, right now. As Dawn said, every night the music is up loud enough to wake the kids....sorry Jack, ain't happening.
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realbigshot

I agree with you rickross have you seen the crime rate in sandusky lately 6 murders robberies and so on and you calling about a noise complaint that not even worth the call when you can atleast talk to them first but instead you call the cops i would do it just too make you and if the police came everytime then i know my plan worked if you talk to them and let them know the situtation i probably sure they will work with you cause calling the cops might make them think you got other issues with them since you couldnt come out and talk to them and who to say that even if they did get a ticket that they gone stop i know plenty people tickets and still play they music loud all you doing is creating a enemy thats going to hate you more and more everytime you call the police

ArcherCC

I don't know if I would call Sandusky's crime rate bad, for a town this size it's not good but a bad crime rate is Cleveland or Toledo or Orlando Fl. After living in FL for 18 months I have no problem walking around downtown at any hour of the night, or even down Hancock street.

KnuckleDragger

Actually, if you look at the numbers, Sandusky's violent crime rate (per 1,000 in population) is higher than Clevelands.

realbigshot

I agree with you rickross have you seen the crime rate in sandusky lately 6 murders robberies and so on and you calling about a noise complaint that not even worth the call when you can atleast talk to them first but instead you call the cops i would do it just too make you and if the police came everytime then i know my plan worked if you talk to them and let them know the situtation i probably sure they will work with you cause calling the cops might make them think you got other issues with them since you couldnt come out and talk to them and who to say that even if they did get a ticket that they gone stop i know plenty people tickets and still play they music loud all you doing is creating a enemy thats going to hate you more and more everytime you call the police

starryeyes83

What do you think they are creating when they disrespect other peoples' peace and quiet, which people have the right to have BTW.

wiredmama222

I would ask once nicely. After that, I would TELL them nicely. There wouldn't be a third time. We have neighbors who think we all enjoy their loud music in the summer....volume turned to 10+. We have asked until our faces our blue and nothing has worked. When the new people moved in they didn't ask once....the police were called every day this past summer. There was no music for weeks. The new neighbors cars were broken into, their tires slashed and their windows and house egged three times. Of course no one saw a thing. (really). We can all only guess.

It would have been better to have talked then called.

huronguy

I agree with rick ross's first comment, great advice. be a man and go knock and let them know if that doesn't work be inventive to each circumstance.

Darkhorse

You can't reason with people who have no common sense. You treat it like the car radios. The third offense, the cops take the stero away.

hmm really

I think you are taking a gamble even if you politely ask on your own, and need to think about your family members safety if you do. I have some friends and their whole block was tired and upset over a neighbor's obnoxiously loud car stereo. The whole block has called to report this and emails sent to the police chief asking for help. It escalated to this because one of the neighbors DID attempt to ask politely... and the people became combative towards them! Followed by people walking by another neighbors house making threatening remarks! Both of these families have children... pretty sad and disturbing that they have to deal with things like that in their homes.

rjk1915

Would this have happened 50 years ago?

wiredmama222

50 years ago they had bands....lol

starryeyes83

Not much because times were different and people respected each other more. There was more common courtesy and sense back then.

Now people just don't care.

JERRY from SANDUSKY

Obamas in office the best thing is to call the cops

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BW1

Sometimes an illustrative message works wonders.

Used to live in the big city. Had a problem with neighbors playing obscene rap music so loud I could hear it in my basement with all windows closed. Went out and bought a Patsy Cline CD, moved the big Infinity Q4's onto the back porch and turned the big SAE rack mount amp up to eleven. After 30 seconds, the rap music was turned down, and somebody shouted over the fence, "OK, we got the message. Sorry 'bout that."

Never had a problem again.

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2cents

Neighbors! I had one where three older teenage boys were shooting a bow and arrow at a target in their back yard nailed to a tree that was on the property line. Hmm, kids, then tree, then our back yard, add it up. My wife was out working in the garden so I told her to come in because if they missed the target the arrow would be on a trajectory to hit her. So I waited inside and when they missed, the arrow landed past where she was, it would have hit her. One boy came over to retrieve the arrow, but only to be staring at the business end of an unloaded 22 rifle. He dropped the arrow and ran like hell! Well before they could call the cops I went over and explained their stupidity, I think they will remember that physics lesson forever….

goofus

WWBD Barry would invite all paties to a beer summit.