BobWilliams says

Clyde's problems come close to my home district 58 and many of us empathetic to the mysterious tragedy suffered by its victims. Of the seven dumps in Clyde, three were used by Whirlpool. The reservoir is too close to these dumps. That said, if you're not using the right test then your test will not turn up the culprit. The grassroots feeling is that the culprit is to be found in the water, given the proximity of the dumps to the reservoir.

man4451 says

Now isn't this what there are SUPPOSE to do? Just as Republican Leader John Boehner, senator joe lieberman. and the rest of them JOKERS in Washington said; THEY'RE doing what THEY should be doing, Making a PROFIT for the STOCK holders? As the medical health care, pharmaceuticals, Doctors, Hospitals are doing? Now YOU don't wanna beleive THAT, and THEY don't want you to beleive THAT, but those are the facts. Even the President of this cuntry can not change it. Capitalism ar it best, right?

Woody Hayes says

Taxpayer, do you feel good, smart, intellenget and whitty? Man, you are a very sick person. I usually think your blogs are funny and stupid. This blog of yours is just sick. Lets just hope you never go through the pain and hurt these folks have gone through.

brutus smith says

Profits before safety. Corporations consider these deaths just collateral damage, after all the bigwigs live in gated communities far from any exposure to dangerous chemicals and gases. It's time to demand answers and not wait until it's your son or daughter.

man4451 says

A TOTAL SHAME that our Country is based on Capitalism, where even making people SICK will make a PROFIT from there illness and untill they die, and sometimes even after death they will collect. And not enough to pay for medical for these poor people. My heart aches, we missed out on Public option.

eriemom says

Taxpayer: Your mindless rambling lacks reasoned thought and logic. Your post shows that you do not understand science and how you yourself benefit from the application side of pure research. Do you drive, fly, or eat? Do you have healthy children who survived infancy? Earthquakes occur in other places besides your hated west coast. Look at what happened on the island of Haiti. Earthquake research is applied to building standards in the U.S. We can all thank scientists for these. Science, all of the sciences, use methods that try to explain nature. They try to prove or disprove--test, one another's explanations. Society no longer believes that disease and natural disasters are caused by witches, hexes, or the gods. We all understand that there is a cause and affect for every natural occurrence. To attack scientists for the work that they do and the methods that they use, instead of arguing the science behind their conclusions, does not change the fact that you don't understand it. I suggest that you go buy a juju bag the wear around your neck the next time you have a fever instead of taking aspirin.

DGMutley says

Pretty serious stuff! If we are experiencing the abnormal then we should look for the abnormal. How is the Clyde area different than other areas? Not much. The only major difference in the area is a liquid disposal site just a couple miles away injecting millions (billions?) of toxic waste into the ground.

worriedparent says

Ignorant people run the earth in big herds. Until it happens to you and you try to solve the problem you will never know what it feels like to watch your child go through hell just to survive. I hope for anyone who puts negative comments on this sight that you never go through what a parent of a child with cancer or someone who has cancer goes through.

tk says

Good grief Taxpayer, don't you get sick of hearing yourself? What in the world is funny about these kids getting cancer? Keep you ha ha's to yourself.

brutus smith says

Did anyone really think they were going to blame businesses? Must be that cigarette smoke.

Factitious says

Both brain cancer and nasal cancer can be caused by formaldehyde, the exposure to which can come from many sources, including common building materials, but molding parts acetal thermoplastics (Delrin, Celcon, among others) can give off quite a bit of formaldehyde.

worriedparent says

I think that we need to look farther than Clyde concerning this cancer cluster. My son was diagnosed with Medulloblastoma (Brain Cancer) in January of this year at the age of 14 1/2 years old. We live in Huron County along the Rte. 20 corridor and have since learned of over 6 other kids and many adults who also live in this area that have been diagnosed with various forms of cancer. There is way too much of this happening in this area and it is affecting way too many lives. I do agree that we need to look into our parents as well as our grandparents to see what possible link we could have. If we all look there are a couple of things that we do have in common along this stretch and it is Rte. 20 (truck traffic with many types of possible hazardous materials that have gone through), train traffic as well as farmland and orchards. I know that my family has been from this area for many generations. I am very interested in seeing if some of the above could have a relationship to the cancers in not only Clyde but areas to the East of there as well.

Taxpayer says

So the state spent MILLIONS on this study and the result is BUTKIS! Ha! Ha! I think they might want to look at testing what is in the WATER. "Oh, we will get to that later when YOU pay up." This almost reminds me of the elite scientists who get paid TRILLIONS by taxpayers. Don't like that? How about scientists studying earthquakes since 1906 San Francisco? Over a CENTURY of spending to learn what? "The big one is coming." How about the liberal environmental scientists, NASA and NOAA? These wizards of taxpayer smart claim: "The earth is warming, oops, no, the earth is cooling, oops, no, the earth climate is changing." How about scientific celestrial astronomers? "A big asteroid might hit earth." How about a FAILURE of a socialist president, "Let's land on an asteroid in 25 years." Ha! Ha! I couldn't even make this stuff up. The sad thing is the people have PAID taxes for all this liberal dribble and even gave EXTRA for cancer, diabeties, heart disease, and the long list for a cures for over a century and received very little to NOTHING in return. In fact, many of these scientists have retired on all our money with NO results. Is there a need for research? Absolutely. But, if you are a business person, the amount of money invested for the desired goal of results over time is FAILURE. The CITIZENS of Clyde need answers and so far no one knows SQUAT as to why so many are dying.

Cowboy says

What about local farm produce and chemicals used in farming the crops?

Are there crop dusters dusting crops too close to developments?

Factitious says

If any has the link to the EPA's "year-long analysis of Clyde air quality on its website," it would be helpful to post it here.

Factitious says

The results mean Clyde air is safe to breathe? That's a leap of logic, not a justifiable conclusion.

man4451 says

I just wonder what type cancer/cancers they got? Because they tested every chemical known to man to see what cancers threy cause. Like mesothelioma is caused by asbestos.

They should know this by now. Just another government cover up?

hilltop says

I ask once again, have family members (grandparents) been interviewed about their personal contact with chemicals in the workplace? Chemicals that can affect DNA usually skip a generation before showing up. "Silent Spring" by Rachael Carson is a good source for understanding the effects of chemicals on animals and humans.

Where did the grandparents get their water? Was it from wells adversely affected by Waste Management in Vickery? Were other (long gone) industries dumping industrial waste into the environment?

In Erie County, we only have to look towards the Paper District in Sandusky to see the extent of the chemical contamination from industry, especially what was exported to the Erie County Landfill in the 70's. It happened in a lot of places in Ohio before chemical waste became regulated.

As usual, the Ohio EPA (Northwest District Office) and the State Department of Health are ignoring an important part of the research - the human generational affects of chemical mismanagement.

Find out what chemicals family members were exposed to and the potential affects on their children and children's children. Then your research will be "complete."

tk says

What about the Water?

BobWilliams says

Clyde's problems come close to my home district 58 and many of us empathetic to the mysterious tragedy suffered by its victims. Of the seven dumps in Clyde, three were used by Whirlpool. The reservoir is too close to these dumps. That said, if you're not using the right test then your test will not turn up the culprit. The grassroots feeling is that the culprit is to be found in the water, given the proximity of the dumps to the reservoir.

man4451 says

Now isn't this what there are SUPPOSE to do? Just as Republican Leader John Boehner, senator joe lieberman. and the rest of them JOKERS in Washington said; THEY'RE doing what THEY should be doing, Making a PROFIT for the STOCK holders? As the medical health care, pharmaceuticals, Doctors, Hospitals are doing? Now YOU don't wanna beleive THAT, and THEY don't want you to beleive THAT, but those are the facts. Even the President of this cuntry can not change it. Capitalism ar it best, right?

Woody Hayes says

Taxpayer, do you feel good, smart, intellenget and whitty? Man, you are a very sick person. I usually think your blogs are funny and stupid. This blog of yours is just sick. Lets just hope you never go through the pain and hurt these folks have gone through.

brutus smith says

Profits before safety. Corporations consider these deaths just collateral damage, after all the bigwigs live in gated communities far from any exposure to dangerous chemicals and gases. It's time to demand answers and not wait until it's your son or daughter.

man4451 says

A TOTAL SHAME that our Country is based on Capitalism, where even making people SICK will make a PROFIT from there illness and untill they die, and sometimes even after death they will collect. And not enough to pay for medical for these poor people. My heart aches, we missed out on Public option.

eriemom says

Taxpayer: Your mindless rambling lacks reasoned thought and logic. Your post shows that you do not understand science and how you yourself benefit from the application side of pure research. Do you drive, fly, or eat? Do you have healthy children who survived infancy? Earthquakes occur in other places besides your hated west coast. Look at what happened on the island of Haiti. Earthquake research is applied to building standards in the U.S. We can all thank scientists for these. Science, all of the sciences, use methods that try to explain nature. They try to prove or disprove--test, one another's explanations. Society no longer believes that disease and natural disasters are caused by witches, hexes, or the gods. We all understand that there is a cause and affect for every natural occurrence. To attack scientists for the work that they do and the methods that they use, instead of arguing the science behind their conclusions, does not change the fact that you don't understand it. I suggest that you go buy a juju bag the wear around your neck the next time you have a fever instead of taking aspirin.

DGMutley says

Pretty serious stuff! If we are experiencing the abnormal then we should look for the abnormal. How is the Clyde area different than other areas? Not much. The only major difference in the area is a liquid disposal site just a couple miles away injecting millions (billions?) of toxic waste into the ground.

worriedparent says

Ignorant people run the earth in big herds. Until it happens to you and you try to solve the problem you will never know what it feels like to watch your child go through hell just to survive. I hope for anyone who puts negative comments on this sight that you never go through what a parent of a child with cancer or someone who has cancer goes through.

tk says

Good grief Taxpayer, don't you get sick of hearing yourself? What in the world is funny about these kids getting cancer? Keep you ha ha's to yourself.

brutus smith says

Did anyone really think they were going to blame businesses? Must be that cigarette smoke.

Factitious says

Both brain cancer and nasal cancer can be caused by formaldehyde, the exposure to which can come from many sources, including common building materials, but molding parts acetal thermoplastics (Delrin, Celcon, among others) can give off quite a bit of formaldehyde.

worriedparent says

I think that we need to look farther than Clyde concerning this cancer cluster. My son was diagnosed with Medulloblastoma (Brain Cancer) in January of this year at the age of 14 1/2 years old. We live in Huron County along the Rte. 20 corridor and have since learned of over 6 other kids and many adults who also live in this area that have been diagnosed with various forms of cancer. There is way too much of this happening in this area and it is affecting way too many lives. I do agree that we need to look into our parents as well as our grandparents to see what possible link we could have. If we all look there are a couple of things that we do have in common along this stretch and it is Rte. 20 (truck traffic with many types of possible hazardous materials that have gone through), train traffic as well as farmland and orchards. I know that my family has been from this area for many generations. I am very interested in seeing if some of the above could have a relationship to the cancers in not only Clyde but areas to the East of there as well.

Taxpayer says

So the state spent MILLIONS on this study and the result is BUTKIS! Ha! Ha! I think they might want to look at testing what is in the WATER. "Oh, we will get to that later when YOU pay up." This almost reminds me of the elite scientists who get paid TRILLIONS by taxpayers. Don't like that? How about scientists studying earthquakes since 1906 San Francisco? Over a CENTURY of spending to learn what? "The big one is coming." How about the liberal environmental scientists, NASA and NOAA? These wizards of taxpayer smart claim: "The earth is warming, oops, no, the earth is cooling, oops, no, the earth climate is changing." How about scientific celestrial astronomers? "A big asteroid might hit earth." How about a FAILURE of a socialist president, "Let's land on an asteroid in 25 years." Ha! Ha! I couldn't even make this stuff up. The sad thing is the people have PAID taxes for all this liberal dribble and even gave EXTRA for cancer, diabeties, heart disease, and the long list for a cures for over a century and received very little to NOTHING in return. In fact, many of these scientists have retired on all our money with NO results. Is there a need for research? Absolutely. But, if you are a business person, the amount of money invested for the desired goal of results over time is FAILURE. The CITIZENS of Clyde need answers and so far no one knows SQUAT as to why so many are dying.

Cowboy says

What about local farm produce and chemicals used in farming the crops?

Are there crop dusters dusting crops too close to developments?

Factitious says

If any has the link to the EPA's "year-long analysis of Clyde air quality on its website," it would be helpful to post it here.

Factitious says

The results mean Clyde air is safe to breathe? That's a leap of logic, not a justifiable conclusion.

man4451 says

I just wonder what type cancer/cancers they got? Because they tested every chemical known to man to see what cancers threy cause. Like mesothelioma is caused by asbestos.

They should know this by now. Just another government cover up?

hilltop says

I ask once again, have family members (grandparents) been interviewed about their personal contact with chemicals in the workplace? Chemicals that can affect DNA usually skip a generation before showing up. "Silent Spring" by Rachael Carson is a good source for understanding the effects of chemicals on animals and humans.

Where did the grandparents get their water? Was it from wells adversely affected by Waste Management in Vickery? Were other (long gone) industries dumping industrial waste into the environment?

In Erie County, we only have to look towards the Paper District in Sandusky to see the extent of the chemical contamination from industry, especially what was exported to the Erie County Landfill in the 70's. It happened in a lot of places in Ohio before chemical waste became regulated.

As usual, the Ohio EPA (Northwest District Office) and the State Department of Health are ignoring an important part of the research - the human generational affects of chemical mismanagement.

Find out what chemicals family members were exposed to and the potential affects on their children and children's children. Then your research will be "complete."

tk says

What about the Water?

BobWilliams says

Clyde's problems come close to my home district 58 and many of us empathetic to the mysterious tragedy suffered by its victims. Of the seven dumps in Clyde, three were used by Whirlpool. The reservoir is too close to these dumps. That said, if you're not using the right test then your test will not turn up the culprit. The grassroots feeling is that the culprit is to be found in the water, given the proximity of the dumps to the reservoir.

man4451 says

Now isn't this what there are SUPPOSE to do? Just as Republican Leader John Boehner, senator joe lieberman. and the rest of them JOKERS in Washington said; THEY'RE doing what THEY should be doing, Making a PROFIT for the STOCK holders? As the medical health care, pharmaceuticals, Doctors, Hospitals are doing? Now YOU don't wanna beleive THAT, and THEY don't want you to beleive THAT, but those are the facts. Even the President of this cuntry can not change it. Capitalism ar it best, right?

Woody Hayes says

Taxpayer, do you feel good, smart, intellenget and whitty? Man, you are a very sick person. I usually think your blogs are funny and stupid. This blog of yours is just sick. Lets just hope you never go through the pain and hurt these folks have gone through.

brutus smith says

Profits before safety. Corporations consider these deaths just collateral damage, after all the bigwigs live in gated communities far from any exposure to dangerous chemicals and gases. It's time to demand answers and not wait until it's your son or daughter.

man4451 says

A TOTAL SHAME that our Country is based on Capitalism, where even making people SICK will make a PROFIT from there illness and untill they die, and sometimes even after death they will collect. And not enough to pay for medical for these poor people. My heart aches, we missed out on Public option.

eriemom says

Taxpayer: Your mindless rambling lacks reasoned thought and logic. Your post shows that you do not understand science and how you yourself benefit from the application side of pure research. Do you drive, fly, or eat? Do you have healthy children who survived infancy? Earthquakes occur in other places besides your hated west coast. Look at what happened on the island of Haiti. Earthquake research is applied to building standards in the U.S. We can all thank scientists for these. Science, all of the sciences, use methods that try to explain nature. They try to prove or disprove--test, one another's explanations. Society no longer believes that disease and natural disasters are caused by witches, hexes, or the gods. We all understand that there is a cause and affect for every natural occurrence. To attack scientists for the work that they do and the methods that they use, instead of arguing the science behind their conclusions, does not change the fact that you don't understand it. I suggest that you go buy a juju bag the wear around your neck the next time you have a fever instead of taking aspirin.

DGMutley says

Pretty serious stuff! If we are experiencing the abnormal then we should look for the abnormal. How is the Clyde area different than other areas? Not much. The only major difference in the area is a liquid disposal site just a couple miles away injecting millions (billions?) of toxic waste into the ground.

worriedparent says

Ignorant people run the earth in big herds. Until it happens to you and you try to solve the problem you will never know what it feels like to watch your child go through hell just to survive. I hope for anyone who puts negative comments on this sight that you never go through what a parent of a child with cancer or someone who has cancer goes through.

tk says

Good grief Taxpayer, don't you get sick of hearing yourself? What in the world is funny about these kids getting cancer? Keep you ha ha's to yourself.

brutus smith says

Did anyone really think they were going to blame businesses? Must be that cigarette smoke.

Factitious says

Both brain cancer and nasal cancer can be caused by formaldehyde, the exposure to which can come from many sources, including common building materials, but molding parts acetal thermoplastics (Delrin, Celcon, among others) can give off quite a bit of formaldehyde.

worriedparent says

I think that we need to look farther than Clyde concerning this cancer cluster. My son was diagnosed with Medulloblastoma (Brain Cancer) in January of this year at the age of 14 1/2 years old. We live in Huron County along the Rte. 20 corridor and have since learned of over 6 other kids and many adults who also live in this area that have been diagnosed with various forms of cancer. There is way too much of this happening in this area and it is affecting way too many lives. I do agree that we need to look into our parents as well as our grandparents to see what possible link we could have. If we all look there are a couple of things that we do have in common along this stretch and it is Rte. 20 (truck traffic with many types of possible hazardous materials that have gone through), train traffic as well as farmland and orchards. I know that my family has been from this area for many generations. I am very interested in seeing if some of the above could have a relationship to the cancers in not only Clyde but areas to the East of there as well.