Stand with Perkins students

Anonymous
Mar 13, 2013

Excerpt from the editorial in Tuesday's Register: Perkins High School students learning French have been united in their interest in saving the program.

“If the only class left is Spanish, where does that leave me?” Junior Karla Camargo said. “Academics should always come first.”

We agree.

While the school board says it is inevitable some cuts will need to be made regardless of May’s levies, we stand with Camargo and all of the other foreign language supporters in defense of those vital academic programs.

Read the rest of this editorial plus Chuck Hoefert on today's editorial page. Get the e*Paper or buy a Register at a newsstand near you.

Comments

MBR

'“Academics should always come first.”'

Then cut money from the football team. Or better yet, get corporate "foreign language" sponsors. It works when schools want to build new, expensive sports stadiums.

Talkings hit

Excellent point.

oldpirate

Every teacher is passionate about their program and believe it is important to the students development. I fear that if each area starts to promote each programs as being more important than others it will have a negative affect. Also, extracurricular activities are important but all need to go before any academics.

Tool Box

You can always take French at Firelands while still attending HS. Just an option if you are in a pinch for the course.

Centauri

Another option is to learn French online or buy software to learn French at home. Ohio provides high school students to test out of taking classes.

http://www.ode.state.oh.us/GD/Te...
"Ohio’s system of credit flexibility gives students new and innovative ways to earn academic credit, including the option to test out of a class by passing a rigorous exam or performing specific skills to demonstrate mastery of that knowledge."

I am curious about those trips to France. Who pays for the trips and expenses?

SanduskyExpat

The students' families pick up the expenses of the trip, including expenses.

SanduskyExpat

The students' families pick up the expenses of the trip, including expenses.

EZOB

Maybe they plan on having the French class in the new football stadium. I know they wouldn't put sports before education!

mitchello

More child propaganda..."Stand with Perkins students"... does that mean if a levy fails residents are against students?

Talkings hit

I think it means that WHEN the levy fails, we should look for ways to finance education instead of luxuries. It seems like a good idea.

Tribester

Yes...that's exactly what it means. Don't try and tell yourself otherwise. If the levy fails, Perkins residents are less concerned with their childrens' education then most other communities in the county and state based on a measurement of local tax effort. It's as simple as that. Sorry to shatter your bubble of denial.

underthebridge

This is their mantra isn't it? You're either FOR US or AGAINST US. There are a lot of reasons people might not support the levy: 1) economic reasons based on job loss; 2) economic reasons based on limited income - senior citizens; 3) disagreement with the funding structure; 4) disagreement about the spending priorities of the school district; 5) disagreement with the BOE and their style of leadership; 6) political reasons; 7) etc., etc.

Lil DAB

Exactly right! Vote NO

onlythetruth

Moderators have removed this comment because it contained Personal attacks (including: name calling, presumption of guilt or guilt by association, insensitivity, or picking fights) and Libel and defamation.

Tool Box

Really, with all of the Border Patrol around Sandusky, there is still a drug problem? Amazing!

Matt Easterhold

It amazes me how hypocritical this paper is when it comes to Perkins and Perkins schools. The Register constantly pounds on local governments and their spending when it comes to taxpayer dollars, especially SCS and the City of Sandusky. Perkins Schools has shown the most irresponsibility when it comes to taxpayer dollars and deserves to be critized as harshly by this paper as anyone else.

It makes you wonder how many staff members have children in the schools or whatever advantage they would gain by not burning Perkins Schools at the stake as they would others.

I also wonder why the issue of MERGING with Sandusky hasn't been raised by the Register. Seeing as the Register is so concerned with taxpayers money being used correctly, you would think they would be the leaders of a merger campaign.

Why does this area need 2 police dept's, 2 fire dept's, 2 city service dept's, 2 road crew's, 2 city hall's, 2 schools systems, 2 school boards, 2 superintendents, 2 administrative offices, 2 high schools, 2 top of the line football stadiums that are all basically ACROSS THE STREET FROM EACH OTHER??

Perkins keeps sticking their hand out wanting more?? There is a high school across the street with better facilities and curriculum(if you don't believe me check for yourself, SCS has many more advanced classes, college credit classes and vocational studies than PS)

I'm just saying there should be a stronger drive in this area to merge together, and I'm just curious as to why this paper isn't the ringleader in this?

samantha

I couldn't disagree with you more. SR beats the crap out of Perkins: Carol Smith; the Waters and the bullying law suit; the $100million campus headline; not to mention them pounding the merging issue for more than two years (which you forget would INCREASE Perkins taxpayers by greater than 50% while SCS would reap the benefits). The only Love SR has for Perkins is all the drama it causes in this blog. They do everything they can to stir the pot.

Matt Easterhold

Don't forget the teacher at Perkins who had a relationship with a student, SMCC also had a teacher do this. But these are separate from the budget issues in which I brought up. The Register loves putting articles that will cause a stir in their comment sections, this is evident in how they comb through the daily log's to find amusing items.

Everyone gets beat up by this paper, I'm simply stating that the huge failure by Perkins Schools to operate within their budget is ignored by this paper. Which is odd considering that this paper especially loves to beat up local municipalities over their spending habits, you can't deny this.

There is no way that a merger would increase your taxes 50%, you must of been told this by Perkins. Remember they would rather lie to you to keep their high paying jobs than merge and lose their jobs. Both schools would lose jobs, but it would provide better service and schools to the whole area, not just Sandusky. But we wouldn't want to do that now would we?

underthebridge

SR reports news stories that generate interest. That is the job of the newspaper. They have not delivered strong editorial opinions on the Perkins Schools for a few years.

A few weeks ago, the SR published an editorial that was little more than a restatement of the facts regarding the controversy about the facilities report, the Health Department involvement, etc. Despite significant interest in the bullying lawsuit, they didn't address it from an editorial perspective. Despite the controversy regarding FRMC purchasing naming rights, the SR didn't publish an editorial criticizing the school district for that. They have written that the benefits of merging should be strongly examined, I wouldn't call that a pounding of the merger issue. The fact that you feel so strongly that they've pounded Perkins and other posters feel so strongly that they haven't suggests that they are problem maintaining some neutrality.

bayshore

But Perdusky, Ohio, Blue Pirates doesn't have the same ring to it.

phslowbrass

@Matt Easterhold, Perkins keeps sticking their hand out wanting more?? Sorry..... But, check your facts like I have. Although I am a student, I can do research... Perkins has not asked for any money since 2000. The board has stated that a financial levy should have been asked for 5 years ago. Although I might not agree with Dr. Gunner (a lot of the time), He has stretched our budget for the 5 years he has been here... Also, I don't agree with the money handling throughout the BOE. But as a rule of thumb, some of the decisions that the board has made has made Perkins stay afloat without asking for money for 13 Years...

fredinperkins

At the last attempt to pass the levy, I believe the wife of the previous publisher was heavily involved with Perkins Schools. A one half page OPINION article was scribed by the usually FACT based future's, stock options and general business issues writer supporting the levy in a SUNDAY SR paper. Just saying.

I agree, merging school districts in such close proximity should be considered.

Perkins2060

For the sake of the students, VOTE NO!

Truth or Fiction

The students are once again caught in the middle. As a community, we have a responsibility to them as they are our future. While I don't agree with all of the BOE and Administration moves, I do stand with and for the students. I will VOTE YES come May 7.

phslowbrass

Here here Truth or Fiction!!!! Thank you personally for doing what you think is right for the students!!! :)

Perkins2060

Stand with the students and VOTE NO!

phslowbrass

How is it with us? I go to PHS Everyday... Levy failure hurts us.... We (The Students) all want the levy to pass.!.!.! So how would voting against the levy be standing with us?!!?!!?

Perkins2060

Stand with the students and VOTE NO!

phslowbrass

I AM A STUDENT!!!!!! IN CASE YOU CANT FIGURE THAT OUT....... You're certainly not standing with me or any of my friends or class mates.......... Just an FYI.....

Perkins2060

Stand with the students and VOTE NO!

Tool Box

I'll stand with the students and VOTE NO!

Randy_Marsh

You want to learn spanish go to norwalk and hang out at the taco joint, Thats easy.

Truth or Fiction

To the students of Perkins, you are entitled to your opinion and I commend you on your active participation. Please do not take negative statements by some on this thread as the mood of the entire community. Many understand the severity of the problem and will vote yes on May 7.

phslowbrass

I am not trying to take them as the mood of the entire community. I am simply just asking how it would be with us? Haha, not trying to start a fight!

Perkins2060

For the sake of the community, VOTE NO!

nosey rosey

Until you are old enough to vote and pay property taxes, you have no right to an opinion. Maybe study civics in your spare time because school funding in this state has been proven unconstitutional twice. It's everyone's duty to vote no on all school levies put before them. If parents can't bring themselves to tell their kids no, I certainly can.

Perkins2060

I like you.

phslowbrass

Ohh.... I have no opinion about my future..... Ok.....

luvblues2

You have an opinion, you just don't have any say so just yet.

In the USA we have these laws that have age requirements. I don't and never have always agreed with them, but they are still there and we basically have to listen to them or have problems with those who govern us.

What is your proposition and where is your thesis? Do you have any experience in program management or did you just come to voice your understated and under aged opinion?

SanduskyExpat

You're joking, right? I haven't heard anything remotely like a "thesis" on these comment boards. Of course the student has a right to an opinion. This decision affects him. And, in fact, even if the decision DIDN'T affect him, he is still allowed to have an opinion. That's what's great about this country. So don't act like that. It doesn't mean that his opinion will amount to much, as he doesn't pay taxes and isn't old enough to vote (the 2nd is an assumption that he is under 18, though some kids are 18 in high school)... But seriously. Calm down the antagonistic tone, would ya?

luvblues2

Why so SERIOUS!? lol Just because we want something, doesn't mean we get it. That was my point and my opinion.

oldpirate

VOTE YES! Invest in your schools and community.

Perkins2060

VOTE NO! Invest in your schools and community.

Tool Box

VOTE NO! invest in stocks and bonds instead!

Lil DAB

Stand with the students' parents! VOTE NO! Protect home budgets. Parents educate your children to not allow themselves to be used as tools for the propaganda machine of the school board.

Students certainly have a right to their opinion, but have NO SAY in the vote for ravishment of our wallets unless they are 18 or older and have the right to vote.

I wish articles using children as such tool would quit. Trying to make voters that do not support the shanghiing of our family incomes look like the "bad" guys is incongruous. Even family courts don't allow putting kids in the middle!

✰VOTE NO✰

http://voteno43410.webs.com/

Lil DAB

oldpirate, look at your county auditor page or your tax bill to see how much of your property taxes already GO TO THE SCHOOLS! We ALREADY ARE INVESTING! AND WE ALREADY SUPPORT THE SCHOOLS! I don't know about you, but volunteering school projects & boosters, paying for school supplies for my kids classrooms, paying for events, fundraisers, volunteering and attending community events and committees makes me a pretty good supporter and "investor."

Kottage Kat

Please check voting laws on regard to age
18 yr olds can vote issues only???

Lil DAB

You got me to look, KK, Thanks, I could not find anything regarding "issues only." Anybody else?
To vote in Ohio, you must meet the following requirements:[1]

You are a citizen of the United States;
You will be at least 18 years old on or before the day of the next general election. (If you will be 18 on or before November 6, you may vote in the primary election to nominate candidates, but you cannot vote on issues or party central committees until you are 18);
You will be a resident of Ohio for at least 30 days immediately before the election in which you want to vote;
You are not incarcerated (in prison or jail) for a felony conviction under the laws of this state, another state, or the United States;
You have not been declared incompetent for voting purposes by a probate court; and
You have not been permanently disenfranchised for violating the election laws.

Kottage Kat

Thanks for the info.
I am on a phone
No internet

Kat

oldpirate

You are very short sighted. Do you think you financially hurt Gunner or any board member by voting no. They won't be affected. You only yourself if you have kids in school. The levy will pass at some point.The only thing in question is how much damage the naysayer's wish to impose. You anger is misdirected. If you are upset about taxation direct your anger to the state level.

Lil DAB

Actually I am INSIGHTED, oldpirate... and have researched fiscal reports etc. I have seen where my district has made their cuts and why. During construction and remodeling of several schools, cuts were made in education re: instructional supplies-textbooks, workbooks, bus fuel etc not to mention an increase in the electric bill due to new buildings and air conditioning etc. 'So much' for putting education first (before real estate.)

So who is "standing with the students?" Moms and Dads are the only ones that have their backs. Vote no to protect yours and their pocketbooks and the kids' future taxes!

Go Figure

The SR continues to amaze me by using children as a propaganda tool to win over a few votes. Parents, if education comes first, try St. Mary’s.

EZOB

The teachers and school are on another brain washing campaign! If your child comes home and advises you that you should vote yes just tell them. Okay, now you are going to pay for the levy. I'm spending 300 dolars less on school clothes and activities that I pay. You need to get a part time job and pay the difference in my taxes the rest of my life "OR" shut up and don't tell your parents how they should run their house. When you are supporting yourself and maybe family, vote however you choose.

donutshopguy

phslowbrass,

Are you willing to have people in your community lose their homes so you can have what you want?

Are you willing to have people in your community not be able to purchase their medication or needed food so you can have what you want?

As an adult you must think of all these possible ramifications when you enter a voting booth.

I am interested in your thoughts in regards to these two questions

oldpirate

vote yes

Perkins2060

Vote no