Dog killing spurs change

Anonymous
Mar 2, 2013

It seems to us the question must be: Is shooting a dog and allowing it to die slowly the proper and appropriate way to respond to a loose dog call?

It's not.

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Sandusky police chief Jim Lang said on Thursday he is developing a training program for officers in how to handle loose dog complaints. That's good, but there are legitimate questions whether it's appropriate to even have police officers in charge of loose dog complaints, given the enormity of the usual and important responsibilities officers already have. In the past, dog wardens and animal control officers were assigned these responsibilities, and were trained in the tasks.

Sandusky city commissioners are likely to claim budget constraints forced them to eliminate the job. But the city has a $15 million annual budget, and we're convinced there are still responsible ways to spend taxpayer dollars that have not been explored, given the waste that is ever present in the city budget.

We're glad Lang has decided to develop better animal control response practices. This incident should be viewed as an opportunity to correct bad practices; not endorse them.

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Comments

DGMutley

What is "VERY UNEDUCATED"?

Darwin's choice

Once again, everyone jumps on the owner! The question is "shooting the dog and allowing it to die slowly", not the owner is guilty! Brad Wilson needs some time off, as does Lang for his covering for him! This shooting is disgusting! The new "shoot first" mentality is alarming....who's next?

dorothy gale

I agree. The officer was wrong to shoot the dog. The dog should not have been running loose. The owner gets the blame for not keeping the dog restrained and the officer gets the blame for killing the dog needlessly. Why is that so hard to comprehend?! What is wrong with making an officer of the law accountable for HIS decisions? Cops are NOT infallible and maybe the Register will stop belaboring the point when the SPD accepts responsibility for its MISTAKES and bad judgment!

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shbamn1

The dog was dead. It was it's nerves kicking.

SamAdams

Yeah, yeah, yeah, and if Officer Wilson had shot the dog a second time (to put it out of its alleged misery), there would have been a host of people whining here that the dog might have survived if only the evil, dog-hating cop hadn't delivered the coup de grace.

This was a no-win situation for the police. They had to consider the threat of harm to ordinary citizens as well as themselves, and the fact that Lucy was a repeat offender (thanks to her owner) just made matters that much worse. And yet there are those defending the owner! Why? Lucy would be alive and well if her owner hadn't cared so little that she repeatedly permitted her unlicensed and obviously unfriendly (at least with SOME regularity) dog run around! And the truth is that even a usually friendly dog will bite under circumstances IT views as a threat (whether we look at it that way or not).

If this incident serves any purpose whatsoever, it ought to bring to light the appalling number of irresponsible Sandusky dog owners. I agree: If somebody's cited, it's crucial that punishment be enforced. And if somebody's cited more than once, they need to have the animal(s) involved removed to a better and more responsible home.

Meanwhile, just wait. Somebody will be bitten, and then the Register and city residents will be jumping up and down to demand why nobody's done anything. Did it occur to ANY of you that, if you REALLY cared about animals, you'd be advocating for their proper care, including safe confinement?

herbie_hancock

Jackpot there Sam.

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BW1

Wow Sam, here you are playing the statist apologist yet again.

Speakezy

Darwin... you can't have a dog getting shot, run over or hurt someone if the OWNER KEEPS IT RESTRAINED!!! So you goof, this would NOT have happened if she would have paid attention to her animal!!!!!!!

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BULLISDEEP

The owner didn't let the dog out,she was at work,the boyfriend let the dog out .

Bluto

If she is the owner , she is still legally responsible .

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BULLISDEEP

My comment was to the other person ,it was about who let that dog out, not anything to do with legal .

The owner didn't let the dog out bluto.

Bluto

Doesn't matter who let it out . She was the one charged , or did you miss that?

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BULLISDEEP

The comment matters ,and thats all.

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BULLISDEEP

We will see in May about the charges.

herbie_hancock

Acually Bruno, legally it is whoever has charge of the dog that is legally responsible, so in this case its the boyfriend. As per Judge O' Brien. But I agree with you, neither of them have stepped up and claimed responsibility.

deertracker

It's a no win situation for the dog owner too. If your obviously well cared for pet gets loose you are a terrible despicable owner. If you chain it in the backyard you are a terrible despicable owner. If you don't buy a license, which is nothing but a rip off, you are a terrible despicable owner. If your boyfriend doesn't give your pet 24hr attention while you are away, you are a terrible despicable owner. Improper care of the pet is things like no vet visits, no feeding and providing water, or just downright abuse. My neighbor's dogs charged my kids in their own backyard. All he did was open the door and the dog took off. He is a very responsible dog owner but things still happen. He handled he situation properly. No harm no foul. You all need to stop judging this lady because she had no dog tags, or has a boyfriend, or a job, or a couple of tattoos. If you really cared you would be advocating for the proper handling of incidents like this one. Ms Hansen appeared like a very level headed adult on BTL. ALL OF YOU JUDGING WOULD HAVE ACTED THE SAME WAY IF YOUR DOG HAD BEEN SHOT DEAD. I highly doubt any of you would have said "oh well,it's my fault sorry about your luck Lucy."

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BW1

Gee thanks, deertracker. Here some of us are trying to be fair minded and acknowledge her error, but still hold that the officer responded inappropriately. In another thread, I said no one is holding her blameless and then you go and make a liar out of me.

Even if everything you say is true, she's guilty of extremely poor judgment in her choice of romantic partners, and leaving her dog in the care of an irresponsible person.

BEHAPPY

Great comment DEERTRACKER

herbie_hancock

...no your right not everyone would say that, just the responsible ones would. They may have to say it through their teeth, but they would say it.

Swamp Fox

deertracker, Do you even have a dog, clearly not a clue of having a pet dog. Any dog can get loose once, this was an ongoing problem. No dog should be chained, they are pack animals, should be with the family if you don't plan on having them in the house with you, don't get them. The boyfriend was to busy hiding due to his warrant, yea one great guy. Personal attention is a important component of pet ownership. License is not a rip off its a means of identifying lost pets and funding the dog warden as a users fee. Did she have renter's insurance in case the dog did bite someone? If this alleged lady would have been a responsible pet owner Lucy would be alive today, you can't change the facts. There should be a special place in hell for those who don't take care of their dogs responsibility.

Bluto

That is an interesting question . If they are renting and don't have proper insurance that would cover a dog bite , does liability then fall back on the landlord ? Anyone know?

starryeyes83

I asked that very same question on one of the other threads.

Okay SR, here's your chance to do an informative article on this subject regarding the legal issues.

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BW1

Any decent plaintiff's attorney would go after the landlord. Since the house is likely mortgaged, he has to have insurance, and thus there's the deep pocket.

Julie R.

@ Swamp Fox: Why do you keep saying the young lady's boyfriend "was to busy hiding due to his warrant"? I never saw anything in the paper that implied that. Are you stating a fact or are you making an uneducated assumption there?

goodtime1212

When being charged with no tags and loose dog, how do you ple not guilty when the dog was lose and did not have tags. The shooting is not what the charges are about. That part of it, is what it is!

FST

deertracker..you make good points here. I have been reading the comments in this paper for a few years along with a few other papers from around the country. People in Sandusky are some of the cold heartest people around and can`t seem to be able to figure out why Sandusky is so screwed up. In Sandusky you are guilty even before you have commited a crime. I grew up in Sandusky and lived most of my life in the city and can`t seem to figure out where things went wrong. How did Sandusky become so full of self rightous know-it-alls that feel they have to right to be judge and jury of everybody? Just like with this story..the whole point is that it should have been animal control handling this problem not a city cop who is not trained to deal with animals. Why did the dogs act aggressive? Could it be because the cop going at it had a long stick in one hand and a gun in the other? I agree that the owner is a lot to blame here, BUT the cop didn`t know the dog was known for getting loose, OR that the dog didn`t have dog tags, OR that the owner had unpaid fines. Why didn`t the cop use his tazer? Why didn`t he use his mase? SOME cops need to realize that killing something or someone isn`t always their only option.

The Brownie Elf

How would a tazer help this situation? Is he going to handcuff the dog after the 5 second burst is through? Let me put you in a situation with a large breed dog and you can try all of the options you just mentioned. Let me know how it goes. I love dogs but humans come first.

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BW1

I'll take that challenge. I've been attacked by a few large breed dogs with no gun, no tazer, no mace. Came out victorious each time.

An able-bodied adult is more than a match for any lone dog, if you keep your wits about you and know a few things about dogs. Note that police officers are required to be more able-bodied than the average person.

The Brownie Elf

Wow, you should start your own reality show. Maybe you could, how about a 7 year old kid riding his/her bike past that house at that time. Good old Monday morning quarterbacking going on with this incident.

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BW1

I seem to miss where the officer was described as 7 years old. Don't you have to be 18 to be a cop?

The officer in the video appears to be bigger and in better shape than I. He should have been able to handle this without a gun. In many jurisdictions, the animal control officer does not carry a gun.

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