'Only cowards scapegoat kids'

Matt Westerhold
Aug 4, 2014

U.S. Rep. Rep. Luis V. Gutiérrez, D-Ill., in a speech on the House floor Friday called out House Republicans, saying they are following a "script on immigration" from U.S. reps Michele Bachman and Steve King, and U.S. Sen. Ted Cruz, a Tea Party candidate from Texas in his first term.

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"Is there no one in your conference who can stand up and talk sensibly when others in your Party want to demonize Children at the Border and support the Dreamers who live in our neighborhoods across America. You are so frozen in the fear of your own voters, so frozen in the fear of your own colleagues, and the nation needs you to be courageous.

"Only cowards scapegoat children, and only those who are ashamed of themselves do it in the night on a Friday. You are apparently not strong enough to stand up and craft real solutions to American problems.

"In the end, the Republican position on immigration is to deport them all ... it's nonsense and suicide."

Comments

knowitall

Doesn't anyone understand that this illegal traffic of children will continue until we stop it. It is not about kids. Need to stop pulling on those strings. Central and South American people merchants will continue to do this as long as there is a "market" in the US. It will only stop if we prevent it or until we rename our country the "United States of Colombia, Ecuador, etc". Then our economy and society will look like theirs......poor.

jlsullivan50

We refused Jewish children refugees from Poland and Germany back in 1939, and before someone writes these kids are not refugees please research the situation.

vcreed123

Let them open a boarding house across the street from you Matt and we'll see if you're still so emphatic about NOT deporting ANYONE. The weaker they are on it the more they will just stream in, everyone here illegally needs to be sent packing, not doing so is a major disservice to those that DID do it the right way.

Matt Westerhold

Thanks vcreed. You're entitled to your opinion but it seems to me that you and others who share your view contend the rule of law is important, but you convicted everyone without any due process; don't want to allow due process; and don't bother to differentiate at all whether any of the claims for asylum have merit. You also are supporting a "deport all" policy that cannot be accomplished, has no practical purpose, is politically divisive and void of human compassion. You're playing politics with people's lives, with the lives of children. 

There you go again

So, Mr. Westerhold, are you opening your home to these children?

Matt Westerhold

Thanks There you go. Asked and answered. See reply at 5:37 a.m.

Donegan

You never answered the question, You made a statement about having your own opinion. The question was "Would you take some illegals in" that is a yes or no question.

knowitall

Don't deport anyone. Just don't let them in in the first place. Stand in line, take a number, plead your case.....get in or don't get in. Be compassionate about it though. Compassion is not everything goes. Matt you know this is trafficking. This is a business. Corrupt drug lords and others are charging to get these kids to our border because people with the same attitude as yourself are letting them in. Your attitude is promoting more and more of this. And I am a liberal.

vcreed123

I do agree with your point that we both pay taxes and are both entitled to our views. The only difference in our views is you have a soapbox and I do not but that's either here nor there. Let's say for arguments sake every undocumented kid is allowed to stay, what then? where will they go? who will take care of them? who will teach them English, math, etc?

The parents of these children are not "brave" as you once called them, they are cowards that are using their children as pawns to get themselves here. It has been widely publicized these children's parents will be located and brought here to be with their children. The other part of this story is they are coming here with nothing more than a phone number to reach ANOTHER relative who is here illegally and instead of contacting that person and deporting them as well, they are all allowed to stay.

Again, my entire point was, and still is, MILLIONS of people have come here legally, followed the process, passed the test (which I doubt most of us could) and are now productive Americans, why change the rules now? to make you feel good?

buttermaker

Mr. Westerhold, these illegal immigrants broke the law. Due process does not apply, as they are not citizens. Get in line like many (my great grandparents included) have done. I believe you are confused about just who is playing politics here, as from many people's point of view, it is the democratic party, and groups like La Raza who are politicizing this by exploiting these illegal children, and calling people racist who disagree with them. To speak nothing of the families that sent these children here unsupervised, or the current administration, who is dumping these illegals on the states, and then accusing them of being anti-immigration when the respective state wants to do something about the problem.

jlsullivan50

These "illegal aliens" are fleeing for their lives. In Guatemala you have a 1 in 14 chance of being killed, compared to 1 in 250.000 chance in New York City. Back when you great grandparents came over we accepted nearly everyone, read the inscription on the Statue of Liberty. Also due process, within the 14th amendment, does apply if they are on American soil.

buttermaker

I have personally been to Central America, and yes, it is third world, especially when compared to the United States. But we have immigration laws. Get in line. Apply for asylum if the situation warrants. And the Constitution applies to citizens. Not illegal aliens.

jlsullivan50

Your wrong, here is the case. They obviously do not have all the rights of a citizen the rule of law and due process do exist for them. The fact that you have been to Central America really is meaningless in this discussion. I wish your mindset didn't exist in 1939 when Jews from across Europe tried to "invade" our country to escape the Nazi's:.........
In Yick Wo v. Hopkins, a case involving the rights of Chinese immigrants, the Court ruled that the 14th Amendment's statement, "Nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws," applied to all persons "without regard to any differences of race, of color, or of nationality," and to "an alien, who has entered the country, and has become subject in all respects to its jurisdiction, and a part of its population, although alleged to be illegally here." (Kaoru Yamataya v. Fisher, 189 U.S. 86 (1903) )

Truth2u

Moderators have removed this comment because it contained Personal attacks (including: name calling, presumption of guilt or guilt by association, insensitivity, or picking fights).

exsanduskian

Once again Matt, how many illegal children have you taken into your home? I bet NONE! You don't mention that once the illegal children are allowed to stay in this country their parents will be allowed to come to this country will you take them into your home also?

Matt Westerhold

Thanks for asking the question again, but again, it's a rude and accusatory and implies I'm not entitled to an opinion unless I take different steps than you do in solving this problem. The cost to solve this problem wouldn't amount to a penny from your change purse. As taxpayers, we're both entitled to babble our opinions how our tax money should be spent, and we're both entitled to advocate different approaches. In my opinion, the lack of compassion, the politicization and the righteousness the protestors and the right demonstrate is nauseating and anti-American. They should be protesting at the Statute of Liberty.

knowitall

You can be compassionate in how you send the back to where they came from. Your definition of compassion seems to be anything goes.
The protestors are somewhat self righteous. But, it is their state and In their "neighborhood".
You also seem to want to take away the protestors right to protest because it does not agree with your opinion. Un-American you say. I think not.
It is a political issue, not a humanitarian one. It is border security. Obama has been delinquent, as had congress, in addressing this homeland security issue. Islamist extremists are licking their chops with this porous border.
And I am a liberal Democrat.

exsanduskian

Matt, you are attacking the wrong people. Try getting to the root of the problem in Washington and that is Obama. He has done more to divide this country than any other president in history. He claims he can't get any bills through the house but why should the Republicans pass any bills when he, through "Executive Orders", changes the LAWS? Let's face it, Obama can't be trusted to uphold the law. Instead of playing golf, vacationing, and flying around the country campaigning for his party(attaxpayer's expense)he should be tending to the business of running this country. A "Community Organizer" is not a leader he is a "DEMANDER". Washington needs a LEADER. By the way, I never voted a straight ticket until 2012 & voted for Bill Clinton!

Contango

Re: "The cost to solve this problem wouldn't amount to a penny from your change purse."

@ Mr. Westerhold:

So what exactly IS the potential unfunded liability for feeding, clothing, housing, educating, giving medical care and more to tens of thousands of individuals illegally crossing the U.S. border?

< 1¢ eh?

Contango

Re: "They should be protesting at the Statute of Liberty."

Absurd argument.

Where on the SOL are liberally provided 'cash and prizes' mentioned?

There you go again

Obama has practically sent invitations to all illegals to come to the US. I wouldn't care as much if I didn't see so extreme poverty in my school ( and the excessive entitlements my students receive).
Where do we draw the (red) line, Obama?

knowitall

Where do you want the red line? It can be picked up and moved wherever and when ever. It fades rather quickly when Obama draws it.

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The Hero Zone

It's interesting to read a profile on Rep. Gutierrez: http://www.discoverthenetworks.o...

JMOP

Thanks Hero!

Interesting read.
Seeing his track record on education and abortion, I don't think he's doing this for the children. At least it seems he doesn't care about the American children.

sugar

He's a real lover of liberty and freedom. What a nutcase, most likely thinks Amwrica was stolen by Europeans, but forgets Gutierrez is not native American. Sounds Spanish to me.

LivinOnTheLake

Matt, is it so wrong for us "citizens" of the USA to demand from our elected officials that anyone (child or adult) who wants to immigrate to the USA do it the right way and go through the naturalization process? Many immigrants come to America the right way and follow OUR LAWS to become US citizens. Unfortunately, the liberals in this country always pull on everyone's emotions to get what they want and sometimes the USA is not the answer for some and more importantly, I don't really care for MY tax dollars going toward providing entitlements to ILLEGAL ALIENS.

Matt Westerhold

Thanks LivinOnTheLake. I'm not a lawyer but I know due process takes more time than what you're suggesting by already pronouncing each person subject to this draconian view of justice guilty before process. This view assumes guilt without review. It advocates the rule of law even as it ignores the rule of law. It's an ill-informed and disingenuous position. 

knowitall

Not everyone gets into this country because you want them to. LivingOnTheLake is just saying follow the present law. Should not be a problem to follow law should it? So, what is your idea Matt? You seem to want anything goes. Help us by justifying your position/opinion.

Matt Westerhold

Thanks know. Saying "just follow the present law" assumes the law is not being followed. It assumes guilt without and before process and therefore taints the process. It's a view that appears to promote the rule of law as it ignores the rule of law. See Contango's comment below. Process is not convenient. 

JMOP

With all do respect Mr. Westerhold, Obama, and the rest of the government recognize this surge as "illegals". Given that title, it's a safe bet they're not following the rules.

Straight from the http://m.whitehouse.gov/sites/de... website.

"Parents brought them here illegally and give those young men and women a chance to stay in this country if they serve in the military or pursue higher education."

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