Feds keep taking away our rights

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Jun 3, 2013

I read the article “Outlaws raided” and couldn’t resist the temptation to question the “police state” mentality of our current laws.

I find the federal government’s power to seal the search warrant that was used to justify the raid is an encroachment of all of our civil liberties.

The power to hide the reason for a search warrant to be issued for as long as the federal government wants to hide such information flies in the face of our constitutional right against unwarranted search and seizure of personal property.

Outside of the feds and some local police agencies, no one really knows what they were looking for. When you give the federal government unrestricted power, history keeps proving that power will inevitably be abused.

Just to prove my point, the senate is now considering a national biometric database or a national identification card if you will, for every working American.

“Show me your papers please” is just around the corner for all of us here in America, and if you don’t produce them, then the authorities will be able get a sealed search warrant to search for who knows what in the name of national security. Wake up, America!

— Dale Terry, Huron
     Chapter leader, the John Birch Society

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Darwin's choice

The 12 million+ illegals here now, with no fear of prosecution from our gutless government, aren't concerned......!

There you go again

That was Obama's plan. No surprise there.

gene44870

In my eyes , It seems to me that the locol right up to the feds make up the rules and change them to suit them .
As well as we really dont have any rights in this country anymore , Our rights were taken from us the day two planes crashed in the twin towers

zachfromsandusky2

The whole country is headed for a police state. After the Boston false flag op in April they govt militarized the police mixing them with default and military and shut the whole city down then went door to door violating 4th amendment rights while searching for the "terrorists. Meanwhile two days later Obama is meeting with a Saudi diplomat under the radar and deporting a Saudi national and while he is doing the the waco fertilizer plant was bombed as a distraction. Boston was simply a trial run of martial law and it worked cus people.are willingly ignorant and blind to what is actually going on!

TboneWalkerJr

Is that you Eric Cartman?

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swiss cheese kat

Start working at home with Google! It's by-far the best job Ive had. Last Monday I got a new Alfa Romeo from bringing in $7778. I started this 11 months ago and now make more than $133 per hour.

Swiftshot

I understand the right to privacy and I can appreciate the need for it to a point. The comment " wake up America" stirred me a little. I am pretty comfortable saying that the outlaws were not going to create any form of a mass distruction. BUT, AMERICA did wake up 9/11 and durring the past year durring the Boston bombings. Not to leave out the numerous happenings against us outside our borders. It is a changed world! its about time that the government gets involved. our borders were essentially almost open without any type of restriction and accounibity. I AM an american! If the FBI wants to search my property - I have absolutely NOTHING to hide. The next time that you think we are losing our freedoms because of the FBI searches, they are protecting them in the end. It would have been great to have some form of this "bio" technology prior to our every day fear that we are going to get attacked.

Fromthe419

They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. - Benjamin Franklin

The Bizness

Put that quote in context and it does not really have the meaning you want it to.

"In fine, we have the most sensible Concern for the poor distressed Inhabitants of the Frontiers. We have taken every Step in our Power, consistent with the just Rights of the Freemen of Pennsylvania, for their Relief, and we have Reason to believe, that in the Midst of their Distresses they themselves do not wish us to go farther. Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. Such as were inclined to defend themselves, but unable to purchase Arms and Ammunition, have, as we are informed, been supplied with both, as far as Arms could be procured, out of Monies given by the last Assembly for the King’s Use; and the large Supply of Money offered by this Bill, might enable the Governor to do every Thing else that should be judged necessary for their farther Security, if he shall think fit to accept it."

http://alexandermarriott.blogspo...

nonconformist

"Give me liberty or give me death." There's a quote for you. Put that one into context for us.

The Bizness

Good one bra....you are missing my point as is typical with this forum.

The Bizness

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Fromthe419

They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.

This was written by Franklin, within quotation marks but is generally accepted as his original thought, sometime shortly before February 17, 1775 as part of his notes for a proposition at the Pennsylvania Assembly, as published in Memoirs of the life and writings of Benjamin Franklin (1818). A variant of this was published as:
Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety.
This was used as a motto on the title page of An Historical Review of the Constitution and Government of Pennsylvania. (1759); the book was published by Franklin; its author was Richard Jackson, but Franklin did claim responsibility for some small excerpts that were used in it.
They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.

This was written by Franklin, within quotation marks but is generally accepted as his original thought, sometime shortly before February 17, 1775 as part of his notes for a proposition at the Pennsylvania Assembly, as published in Memoirs of the life and writings of Benjamin Franklin (1818). A variant of this was published as:
Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety.
This was used as a motto on the title page of An Historical Review of the Constitution and Government of Pennsylvania. (1759); the book was published by Franklin; its author was Richard Jackson, but Franklin did claim responsibility for some small excerpts that were used in it.
http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Ben...

Yes, there has been some controversy as to whether it was his original thoughts, but he certainly believed it as he put it in his writings.

The Bizness

I am not saying I want the government looking at everything I do but you can't just use peoples quotes without knowing the context of them.

Too many people use words from our found fathers that when put in context have no bearing on modern situations. They also use a lot of made up quotes as well.

4shizzle

The Bizness +10
Fromthe419 fat 0

Fromthe419

Troll, I in fact agree with The Bizness quite frequently...I rarely agree with anything you have to say because you bring zero to the debate.

Fromthe419 +10
4shizzle -10

4shizzle

Let's see.
I got censored for the SAME EXACT comment that 419 has posted.
Me thinks that 419 has pushed the "Inappropriate? Alert Us" button on me.

Fromthe419

I did not push "Inappropriate" button, I believe everyone has the right to exercise their first amendment right.

4shizzle

419-

Bizness made sense.
Your response to Bizness was an exercise in pretentious 'face-saving' mumbling.

That's why I gave the Biz +10 and you a fat 0.

Oh, I see my post restored.
Thank you Sandusky Register.

Fromthe419

did you hit the inappropriate button on me?

4shizzle

Yes I did.

Fromthe419

I see you are against my first amendment right, typical of your ilk :)

4shizzle

No clown,

You were the only suspect. If I got censored and you didn't, I repeat- for the SAME THING - then you are the only suspect.

Call me anything you want, but if I retort with something you don't like, be a man and don't censor it.

Fromthe419

I have never hit an inappropriate button since I've been on this forum, you can write to SR and that they can contact me and I will allow them to tell you if I did it. I enjoy this forum and like hearing opinions that differ from mine, how are we all going to come together if we don't listen to each other. I'm sure there others that you have had disagreements that might have hit that button, as I said I did not do it.

4shizzle

ok

Nemesis

Bizness:

Yes, bur in this case the intended meaning is relevant to the current context.

If you think Franklin meant something else, you really need to learn more about him.

WiseManOnceSaid

Great Quote 419.

Swift YOU ARE THE PROBLEM.
The last line says it all.. "our every day fear that we are going to get attacked".. I do not share that fear.

There will always be murder, there will always be drugs, nothing you can do will stop things like this. Allowing our government to act in a police state because there is a possibility of someone hijacking a plane is not the way to live. There will never be utopia. Learn to live in the world that is, not trying to create a safe uptopia that will never be.

Swiftshot

I feel sorry for you if you think I am the problem. It is the future of my kids and my kids children and all the other future generation I am concerned with. What do you have to hide? I m not asking for a utopia. I don't think I said anything about creating perfection.

Fromthe419

I as well have nothing to hide, but if they want to search my house or my person they need to have a warrant. If they want to ask me my citizenship at a check point they need to have probable suspicion. We as American citizens have rights and for those rights to be violated and say nothing spits in the face of our founding fathers. Our leaders tell us the terrorists hate us because of our freedom. I say no they don't, they hate us because we have 900 military bases in 130 countries.

Swiftshot

Our founding fathers probably didn't take into account the technology that we have. A lot has changed sine the founding fathers declaration.

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