BLOG: Rep. Murray rips petroleum drilling in state parks

Tom Jackson
May 26, 2011

 On Wednesday, the Ohio House voted 54-41 to approve drilling for oil and gas in state parks, sending the proposal to the Ohio Senate.

Rep. Dennis Murray, D-Sandusky, debated against the bill. Here's a video of his speech:

Comments

Kimo

If you set up a rig at Middle Bass, angle the drill NE, you can suck the oil and gas right out from under Pelee Island. Close off the marina and dump the contaminated waste in the hole.

Or another option, set up at the KI State Park, drill towards Pelee, and dump the contaminated waste water in the abandoned quarry.

 

6079 Smith W

Naw! Let's not sell off or exploit any state assets to help reduce budget deficits and create local jobs; let's just tax the h*ll outa wealthy seniors and business owners and watch 'em flee to warmer, more business and tax friendly climes.

 

brutus smith

 birther/deather/full time right wingnut, do you need help packing?

6079 Smith W

@ Confused:

 "Is there something you want to add to the conversation other than your usual hate and nastiness?" (brutus smith, May 24, 2011)

ROFLMAO!!!

 

The New World Czar

Mr. Murray should be grateful that the provisions didn't include drilling in Sandusky Bay or Lake Erie, as this would ruin his million-dollar views.

brutus smith

 Not to mention the oil spills that come automatically with drilling. nwc, do you want Lake Erie to be a lagoon? This shouldn't even be a right or left issue when it comes to preserving our Lakes and parks.

Unabasho

~
The right wingnut's goal -
every resource depleated
on the day he dies
~

 

6079 Smith W

Confused writes:

"Not to mention the oil spills that come automatically with drilling,"

As misinformed as ever. There have been thousands of wells drilled in the Gulf, the vast majority of which result in no leakage. The technology keeps improving. 

Most of these would probably be nat-gas wells anyway because of the Marcellus Shale which runs along the Lake Erie coast and the Eastern edge of the state.

http://geology.com/articles/marcellus-shale.shtml

Louisiana and TX must really hate all those jobs that go along with fishing plus the gas and oil production as well as all the tax dollars it brings in.

The OH "regressives" and the RINOs could show 'em a thing or two about taxing and spending while sending employers and jobs elsewhere couldn't they?

You don't even live in OH, what do you care?

 

brutus smith

 Let's see, winnie's right wingnut version of oil spills or reality. Hmmm.

Oil spills escalated in this decade

By Alan Levin, USA TODAY The number of spills from offshore oil rigs and pipelines in U.S. waters more than quadrupled this decade, a trend that could have served as a warning for the massive leak in the Gulf of Mexico, according to government data and safety experts.

The spills — and the amount of oil that leaked — grew markedly worse even when taking increases in production into account, a USA TODAY analysis of federal data shows. The leaks came as the oil industry repeatedly claimed that offshore drilling was never safer.

 

 

Bailey

BS (Brutus Smith) 
If you say we can't quote Fox then please don't quote from the second most socialist paper in America.

Thank you

 

brutus smith

 USA today Socialist? ROFLMAO! Who owns them tool?

DaBusiness

You're a fool if you think Fracking is safe, this will turn water supplies into toxic time bombs, look what it has done when utilized on land in states like Pennsylvania . WHAT WILL IT DO IF ITS USED NEAR MAJOR WATER AREAS?THESE TOXINS WON"T JUST BE LEAKING INTO LANDS IT WILL LEAK INTO OUR LAKE!

6079 Smith W

"Confused" doesn't even read his own article. ROFLMAO!!

"Environmental activists and safety experts said the increasing numbers of spills should have been a red flag that the industry needed to tighten safety practices and that federal regulators needed to improve oversight."

"The amount of spillage represents a small fraction of that piped out of the ground, according to the American Petroleum Institute, a trade group that represents the oil and gas industry."

http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2010-06-07-oil-spill-mess_N.htm

As I wrote: The technology keeps improving.

Does your Mom let you use her car or does she make you walk?

You don't even live in OH, what do you care?

 

brutus smith

 birther/deather/full time right wingnut, did you fail to read the paragraph before the one you copy and pasted? here it is.

 

In the 1980s, an average of about 2,900 barrels of oil and other toxic chemicals spilled a year. That figure rose to more than 4,400 in the 1990s and to more than 6,100 in the 2000s. Offshore oil production increased during that time, but the rate of barrels spilled per barrels produced continued to increase.

 

Such an old fool.

DaBusiness

"As I wrote: The technology keeps improving."

 

Here's your technology that keeps improving, finding new and exotic ways to poison us and the environment.

http://www.earthworksaction.org/FracingDetails.cfm

 

Bailey

Oil City PA,

TOURISM plays a prominent role in the region by promoting oil heritage sites, "NATURE TRAILS"  But forget that, the liberals have to live in FEAR, always FEAR that something, somewhere might happen, BOOoo!!  Did you jump Brutus?

Could the reason that Dennis isn't happy about drilling be that if something happened his family would have a difficult time suing the government, especially if he voted for it to be allowed?

 Dennis can afford to spend upwards of $10-20-30 even  $40 a gallon for gas, just imagine if you can count that high how much his family makes on just one well played lawsuit.

Its easy to be the big shot who is 'protecting' all us poor and stupid citizens who should cut back on living and drive less while they charge what I believe is excessive fees for representing clients in the name of JUSTICE. I seriously detest lawyers, they are the lowest of all things I can think of.

6079 Smith W

@ DaBusiness:

Yes, fracking technology is improving all the time. You're practicing naive scare mongering.

http://seekingalpha.com/article/251422-gasfrac-non-water-based-fracking-technology-should-handsomely-reward-investors

There's a direct correlation between the creation of the EPA in 1970 and decline of heavy industry and the loss of millions of jobs in the U.S.

Cleveland's population has sunk to 400K. The air may be cleaner and the water fresher - but where are the jobs?

Los Angeles is almost at 1 million people on food stamps. Who's going to pay for all this?

http://www.businessinsider.com/to-eat-and-survive-in-la-on-track-for-a-million-food-stamp-users-2011-5

Can environmentalists and liberals be burned for fuel to help keep the rest of us warm in winter?

Enjoy your Brave New World comrade - leave me out of it.

 

6079 Smith W

@ Confused:

Yep! The govt. kept pushin' production into deeper water.

Why did Obama congratulate Brazil on their oil production and say that he wanted the U.S. to be their best customer?

So did you inherit your MIL's car after you caused her death?

 

 

DaBusiness

Well get scared here's another story of another town/area in PA...

http://www.vanityfair.com/business/features/2010/06/fracking-in-pennsylvania-201006

What they are improving is the cheapest and easiest way to get to the "gold" no matter the consequence to the surrounding area, I beleive you're an intelligent person and see this.There is no way they are making it safer beyond a few cosmetic dressings to appease anyone in the general public. The EPA can't touch a vast majority of these companies because of loopholes from which they operate behind.

It's not fears, its facts.

eriemom

Bought and paid for. Listen to the people. This is 1/2 of 1% of land, yet we need to deplete any and all natural resources so that a few may profit.

heycaptainjohn

Kudos to Rep. Murray.....Kasich & his supporters in the House and Senate will most likely  DESTROY  the State of OHIO in the next three years.....The taxpayers paid to purchase land for these parks, passed levies to manage them...Now Kasich wants to lease them to allow drilling for gas & oil...He cares NOTHING for the State of Ohio...He is only interested in SELLING OHIO to the highest bidders...then in four years he will be a Highly paid CEO for one of them...Shame on you Representative & Senators for not listening to the people of this State...You all created this deficit now you want to SELL our State...Shame  on you!!!!!!!!!!  See you at the polls!!!!!!!

Kimo
  For 33 years, all high‐level radioactive components Including fuel assemblies have been stored on site at Davis Besse. Initially in a cooling pond and then in above‐ground containers.     After we rape and plunder the State Parks, we can move the spent fuel rods to State Parks.    Problem solved.
Peninsula Pundit

Smith:

'Yes, fracking technology is improving all the time. You're practicing naive scare mongering.'

Wrong again.

There is already a safe way to frack, but it costs more money than the way they're doing it now.

Just like BP in the gulf.  If they'd used drilling mud, they would've been able to control the high pressure the natural gas was exerting in the well.  But using drilling mud was more expensive than using sea water. The BP supervisor on board said, and I do quote:

"I'm BP here, I say use water."

BOOM.

It's the same story over and over.  The technology is there if it is used correctly, but it costs more to do so.  That's why business screws everything up through their pennywise, pound stupid methods.  That's why no one trusts businesspeople or Republicans.

 

Bluto

It's the same old story . The bean counters for the big companies will always override safety practices in favor of the almighty profit . And all it will take to turn the waters and land into a dead zone is one short cut that will make a few more bucks for the already ridiculously rich .

TheScientist

Disclaimer:  Not only am I an environmental scientist that works at a nuclear facility in southern Ohio, I'm also a proponent of drilling in State parks. 
It can be done "right," but doing it the right way is expensive.  It shouldn't be about politics, it should be about safely harnessing our natural resources, relying less on foreign resources, creating Ohio jobs, and being safe and keeping things "clean."  I can't imagine them drilling someplace like John Bryan State Park, but someplace like Dear Creek State Park, yes. 

Seems easy enough, but it never ends up that way. 

FST

 People need to realize that the Great Lakes is the largest body of "fresh water" in the world and it is being polluted and drained constantly.  The last thing we need is to have a major oil spill in one of the Great Lakes.  I don`t have a problem will them drilling for oil as long as it is away from our drinking water source.   This country is motivated by greed and  leave it to the greedy Republicans to crap where they expect  "everybody else"  to eat.  I want to know why instead of creating the jobs they promised, they are passing laws exempting Congress from  Obamacare,Medicare and everything else "We the Taxpaying People"  HAVE to live by.  AND they are passing laws to make the USA the world police to keep us in steady wars.  When is our government going to make cuts from their own budget?  NEVER!!!   Americans need to come together for the sake of our country and our childrens future and vote ALL the old faces out of Washington. Remove the ones who know how to play the system and get  real people in there who actually care about the American people and our future.  The wealthy and big corporations haven`t been creating any jobs and are still moving out of this country.  They didn`t use the stimulus money to create jobs either. So why do they still need the tax breaks?  If they aren`t going to create jobs in THIS country, then why do we need to give them any breaks? All while making record profits and keeping the money instead of spreading the wealth and creating jobs. Make them pay their FULL share of taxes. If they move out of this country, double the taxes on everything coming "into" this country and lower the taxes on exports.  If they don`t like it, then let them leave!!  How about doubling the taxes on everything "imported" into the USA. That will force businesses to locate in the US while creating jobs HERE.     That is MY OPINION.

VENERABLE VETERAN

Take a cruise along the Canadian shore and you will find oil and gas wells all along the shore.  They have been there operating in Lake Erie for years and selling the oil and gas to the United States.  Do you really believe that we are not as technologicaly capable as the Canadians?

brutus smith

 Canadians don't put greed 1st.

Kimo

 

Re: Not only am I an environmental scientist that works at a nuclear facility in southern Ohio

U been around 2y 6m, how many diff screen names for how many diff right wing causes?

And yes I really am Superman................

 

 

Centauri

What does a lawyer know about geology? Is the lawyer Murray also a scientist educated in geology?

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