Bring our troops home

Mar 5, 2014


“I’ll take the Operation Enduring Freedom category for $1.4 trillion dollars, Alex”

“President Obama on Feb. 25 informed Afghan President Hamid Karzai, our NATO allies and the American people that the United States is finally planning an orderly withdrawal from Afghanistan by the end of the year if President Karzai does not sign the Bilateral Security Agreement”

“What is BYE!”

“Even though the answer is supposed to be in the form of a question, the judges, fully understanding your exuberance, will accept your, and the United States, BYE!”

Wonder where the money went? — Part I: According to statistical breakdown of the Department of Defense spending for Operation Enduring Freedom, the $1.4 trillion includes all the appropriations Congress made to the military through the Pentagon since the start in 2001.

Plus, the future payments, along with interest, on money borrowed to finance the operation, plus, future obligations for U.S. veterans’ medical and disability payments through 2053.

More proof that just about everybody makes a profit on war except our brave soldiers and taxpayers.

More proof that wars never end.

Wonder where the money went? —Part II: Add in the cost of Operation Iraqi Freedom and the cost of United States wars this century through 2013 is $3.1 trillion.

And counting.

With more than three times the brave soldiers, 14, who’ve given their lives so far in Afghanistan compared to this time last year, a year when 127 of our finest died fighting on foreign soil, a plan for total withdrawal is a heck of a lot better than the plan in the works now.

In fact, the fact is the Pentagon has been pushing for a plan that allows the United States to keep up to 10,000 troops in Afghanistan after 2014.

However, and yes there’s always a however;

However, after President Karzai talked to our President Obama last week about a vital security agreement that would allow the United States to keep troops in Afghanistan after 2014, a pact which Karzai is refusing to sign, saying he wants his successor to sign the pact after elections this spring, President Obama asked the Pentagon to plan for a complete withdrawal of U.S. troops from Afghanistan by the end of this year.

So, now the Pentagon is planning the plan for complete withdrawal by the end of the year. A plan Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel stated is moving ahead:

“With my strong support. This is a prudent step given that President Karzai has demonstrated that it is unlikely that he will sign the Bilateral Security Agreement, which would provide Department of Defense personnel with critical protections and authorities after 2014”

With the Afghanistan presidential elections a month from today, because of term limits, Karzai can’t run, its pretty much a given neither of the top two candidates, Abdullah Abdullah and Ashraf Ghani Ahmadzai, if elected, are going to sign the Bilateral Security Agreement.

I would give you the names of the other nine Afghan presidential candidates but my spell checker, thanks to my massive doses of spell guessing, needs a rest. The campaign for president in Afghanistan does make me wonder just exactly how big are their bumper stickers.

Vote for Sardar Mohammad Nadir Naeem.

Truthfully, after 13-plus years of Operation Enduring Freedom, this is the perfect political excuse for President Obama to have for all our troops to leave Afghanistan. Especially when the old and new presidents disagree with President Obama on how their security forces should be run.

So there you have it, President Obama stating that if Afghanistan President Karzai does not sign the Bilateral Security Agreement the United States will plan an orderly withdrawal of Afghanistan.

With today being Ash Wednesday, I’ve always been impressed with the things people have given up for Lent such as alcohol, tobacco, gambling, sex and chocolate.

Here’s hoping President Obama, instead of giving up one of those vices for Lent, will keep something he’s addicted to for Lent.

A promise.

Specifically, his Afghanistan withdrawal promise.



Darwin's choice

Great thought, but don't forget your talking about the liar-of-the-century!

Promises? I don't keep no stinking promises! "you can keep......"
sound famiLIAR ?

WinstonSmith's picture

Freedom tipped bullets and warheads packed with explosive liberty; delivered by drones that might as well be angels sent from heaven, only funded by 'voluntary' taxation.

Heil Lincoln, preserve the Union!


**Big Brother IS Watching...

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Where's the LIKE BUTTON ?

WinstonSmith's picture

Thanks... LOL

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Thanks... LOL


The inner party only cared about the outer party.

Proles did the work and were kept ignorant. Kinda like today. :)

WinstonSmith's picture

Orwell is rolling in his grave... 1984 WAS NOT supposed to be an instruction manual.


Re: "Orwell,"

Agree with Neil Postman; we're headed more towards "Brave New World" and will amuse ourselves into serfdom.


I'm not exactly sure what all that means WinstonSmith IS a highly creative rendering.

(Just wait for the "A.I." troops to go marching in.)


Lest you forget Chuck we are out of Iraq. Charlie Wilson's war is bad legacy. We should have never entered Afghan in the 1rst place.


Re: "We should have never entered Afghan in the 1rst place."

All thanks to Carter the First and the plan to arm and finance the Afghan mujahideen:


Carter? Really?


Re: "Really?"

Did you click on the link and read or is your Alzheimer's full blown today and you forgot already?


Are you ever going to enter the 21st century? Did you forget or ever even know why America is in Afghanistan?

I agree with Chuck. Bring home ALL the troops wherever they are!


Re: "why America is in Afghanistan?"

And you'd like to forget who originally armed and financed the Afghan mujahedeen.

Too bad about your Alzheimer’s ‘turd.

WinstonSmith's picture

Al-CIA-Duh is %100 a construction of the Military/Pharmaceutical/Economic/Educational/Industrial Complex.

Bin Laden's CIA Codename was "Tim Osman" all a creation of Donald Rumsfeld and Zbigniew Brzezinski.

Look that shit up...


I predicted this would happen and I was correct!
I am Seer!
OR do I just live and breathe?


"God created war so that Americans would learn geography."

- Mark Twain

Excessive debt and military adventurism has led to the bankruptcy of empires and great nations.

The U.S. is not immune to this fate.


I think we can just print some more simoleons

WinstonSmith's picture

And that's the rub, isn't it?
Gas prices haven't gone 'up' in 40 years, but every time the Federal Reserve prints more green paper, it drives the buying power of green paper down.
So what you have is not 'inflation' but radical currency de-valuation. That's why in the year 2013 a pre-1964 dime has more buying power than a one dollar Federal Reserve note. Almost %50 more buying power to be exact.


Should we have become involved in Afghanistan in the first place? Debatable (except for the Carter administration's funding of Afghan "freedom fighters" who spawned al Qaeda, which is, at least in hindsight, a bad move). Should we STILL be involved in Afghanistan? Again, there are arguments on both sides, though the side that suggests we shouldn't be there anymore seems to have the better case. Is the Obama administration handling the current circumstances and the planned withdrawal well? No. But there's quite literally NO foreign policy in this administration that can be defined as effective let alone any good!

In reality, I'm not entirely sure who died and made the U.S. the world's keeper, but it's long past time we stopped messing with everybody else. That does, by the way, include the massive amounts of foreign aid and "loans" (they're not paid back in most cases, so it seems disingenuous of Congress to call them that) to countries that are NOT our friends.

If a withdrawal from Afghanistan means we'll keep our nose out of localized "domestic disputes," then I'm all for it even if it DOES happen to agree with the Community-Organizer-in-Chief. Should we continue to pay attention to such disputes? Of course. There can be, and often are, implications for our own national security. But I can't pretend that means we ought to be so quick to become intimately involved in so many places!


Re: "Should we have become involved in Afghanistan in the first place?"

H*ll, thanks to Pres. Wilson, we got involved in The Great War, upset the balance of power, which in turn helped to spawn the next one.

In 1948, the Brits essentially gave the U.S. the "keys" to the world policeman's job and said: Good luck.

We've been attempting to clean up theirs and the French's past colonial messes ever since.

Neutrality (like the Swiss) works for me.

Unfortunately, the jinn will be impossible to get back into the bottle.

Better hope that the Muslim extremists don't take over a nuclear Pakistan - payback will be a b*tch.


No argument as to how we got into it. A variety of factors came into play, some more sensible (at the time) than others. The question is how and when we'll get OUT of the business of playing the world's policeman!


Pres. Obama's admin has NO foreign policy.

They shoot from the hip and have a lousy aim.

Maybe go back to ol' Teddy's mantra?

"Walk softly and carry a big stick."

FYI: If FDR wouldn't have ordered the Pacific Fleet from San Diego to Pearl, events would have undoubtedly went a bit different.

Protect our own!

Numerous countries are developing drones. It's just a matter of time before some nut loads one with a nuke.


We understand the depths of your depraved brain which is properly positioned to be shooting from the hip.


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Talk about the double standards of the SR. :)

Here ya go:

"Ukraine Crimea Crisis: Hillary Clinton Compares Russian President Vladimir Putin to Adolf Hitler"

Shootin' from the hip?


Re: "Shootin' from the hip?"

And those be some sizably substantial hips.


Paranoid much pooh? Our foreign policy should be to mind our own business!


Re: "Our foreign policy should be to mind our own business!"

Kinda too late for that now 'turd, when your pal Barack is out there droning innocent men, women and children and 16 yr. old American boys.

Making new terrorists every day.



No it's not. If 16 yr. old boys knew how to behave they might not get droned! Terrorists are made daily regardless. It would be nice if you and those like you would have the same compassion for the boys that were gunned down in Florida!



Re: "If 16 yr. old boys knew how to behave they might not get droned!"

What was Abdulrahman crime?

The Obama admin. says that it's a SECRET.

Good to see that you condone murder.


What was Trayvon's crime or Jordan's crime? Walking while black or listening to loud music is not a crime but plotting to kill Americans is.


Re: "What was Trayvon's crime or Jordan's crime?"

You think that Obama secretly ordered Trayvon shot?

Your Alzheimer’s is bad ‘turd, real bad.

The Big Dog's back

Psssst! pooh. The moron in you is showing

WinstonSmith's picture

Doublethink much?

Stop It

Defense/Offense War Machine/Contractors have any sitting POTUS by the balls.
If we quit wars:
They will lay off in a heart beat, putting a great many outta work.
They will threaten we won't have the latest and greatest.
They already are selling to enemies, nothing will stop them from doing it even more if we don't pay our "rent" for "protection".



JM Keynes noted that military production and wars are good for an economy.

Herr Hitler and the boys used the method to take Germany from a bankrupt country to a world power within a matter of years.

Getting off the "sauce" and into rehab will be next to impossible.

It's the CIA's job to seek out the next theater for U.S. military adventurism.


WinstonSmith's picture

So does that mean you need someone to break your windows so we can stimulate this here economy? LULZ


Re: "someone to break your windows,"

The "broken window theory" works - just ask N. Orleans $1T + later.

WinstonSmith's picture

Hey, I got an idea... Farmers are poor and need money... Let's burn %60 of their crops and that way they can charge %60 more!! That'll be great for the farmers and the only folks who will suffer are the people that eat.

Hey, I got a better idea... Instead of burning %60 of the crops, how about we just pay the farmer to grow %60 less!

Keynesian economics is the most bass ackward thing ever and absolutely, positively at the root cause of why the Earth sucks in 2014...


Re: "Keynesian economics,"

Mr. Keynes said to save during the good times and pump prime in the bad.

The jamokes in DC practice bastardized Keynesianism and only know how to spend, spend, spend.

This economy went off the rails when FDR decided that the Fed Resv. was a tool for progressive pet projects instead of a source of liquidity during a banking crisis.

The Big Dog's back

So Raygun, the Bushes and Clinton practiced Keynesian economics? Who knew?

WinstonSmith's picture

Every president since Woodrow Wilson has been a Keynesian puppet with the Federal Reserve and Rothschild banking family pulling the strings.
The president of the USSA has real power like Jared can boss around Subway stockholders.

WinstonSmith's picture

Contango, have you ever looked into The Austrian school of economics?
Murray Rothbard, Ludwig von Mises, Friedrich Hayek, Robert Murphy?

If not, PLEASE, I beg you... Search Youtube for "Murray Rothbard" and give him an hour. I promise you'll never look at economics the same ever again.


Re: "have you ever looked into,"

Got four von Mises books on my shelf, one by FA Hayek and one by Hazlitt.

Had dinner in Chicago in '92 with Andre Marrou and Nancy Lord.

Yea, I know a thing or two about it.


Chuck: Do you have a mirror in your house that works?????

Stop It

The younger generation know it as "Kobayashi Maru". My generation know it as "Catch-22".

A no win situation...."Yossarian!!!"


In psychology it's referred to as a double bind.

Square that circle!

I'm investing in Cyberdyne Systems and hoping for the best.


You really need to run for an elected position pooh, you've have all the answers. **


Agreed! Wrong answers but answers!


Re: "Agreed!"

Sad about your Alzheimer’s.


Re "You (snip)"

Keep blo'n your nonsense bizzaro.

The Big Dog's back

Yes he does kurt. He has "answers" to everything.

Pterocarya frax...

So Winnie, when you make 29 posts on this thread in less than 24 hours, under 2 different user names, does it get difficult to remember which persona you are supposed to be using as you switch back and forth?

Stop It

You have proof that Tango posts under other handles? Do tell.

Dr. Information

Bring the troops home Obama. The only thing you have done is follow through with the Bush pullout of Iraq and then you turned around and dumped all those troops in Afghanistan.

Honestly, I think Obama and those dems are so nervous about bringing all those troops home, only to find out they can't get jobs. Oh well, more unemployment and more on the government yit. Free money for all until its gone.

Ned Mandingo

If they pull out where is the CIA going to get their heroin to smuggle? That country has gone from producing 10% of the worlds heroin to 90% since our army occupied it.


I'll be heading there in a few weeks GULP!