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Bellevue Police

May 27, 2012
9:14 a.m. — 200 block Union St., man said neighbors poisoned his mother’s cat, and they've done before.

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Unassumer

There's alot of cat haters around here. Wish I could bake them a pie.

Nature Advocate

The law in the USA is that it is perfectly legal to destroy any animal, someone's pet or not, that is threatening the health, well-being, and safety of yourself, your family, your animals, or even your property. Also true even in most densely populated cities, firearms laws permitting, if not then 700-1200fps air-rifles are commonly used. The only animals exempt from you taking immediate action, legally, are those listed on endangered or threatened species lists, and any bird species under protection of MBTA (the Migratory Bird Treaty Act). Even then variances can be given should there be sufficient problem but this requires further study by authorities. Since cats are listed in the TOP 100 WORST invasive species of the world in the "Global Invasive Species Database" ( www.issg.org/database/species/ec... ), this means they have no protection whatsoever from being shot on sight, they are not on any protected species list anywhere in the world. Quite the opposite as a matter of fact. (This is precisely how I managed to clear out every last one of hundreds of these invasive species vermin cats from my own lands. On the sound advice of the sheriff. Even he found that trying to reason with and warn the cat-lovers did no good. But shooting every last cat finally worked! My lands have been 100% cat-free for nearly 3 years now, for less than the price of a couple cups of coffee for the ammo.)

Shoot to maim is punishable under the laws that define animal-cruelty (these are the ONLY cases that cat-lovers cite to try to manipulate and scare everyone from shooting their only favorite animal). But shoot to kill is a perfectly legal way to humanely destroy an animal. The same laws and principles that apply to methods of humanely hunting animals also applies to cats. (Outfit your rifle with a good scope and laser-sight. This will ensure a totally humane, instant, and LEGAL kill each and every time. Though use a fatal chest-shot, a head-shot is not always a sure thing.) Unlike cat-lovers' psychotic beliefs, the reality is that a cat is just another animal. It's NOT their baby, their child, their offspring. Even if they do view their cats that way, letting them roam free is no less criminally irresponsible than them telling their child to go play in the freeway and then blaming the cars for their child's death. If they let their cat roam free, NO MATTER HOW IT DIES, that is THEIR fault and they can be charged with all laws that clearly define animal-neglect, animal-abandonment, and animal-endangerment. Not to mention being in direct violation of all international invasive species laws in existence.

In fact, here's a publication from a study done by the University of Nebraska on the best ways to HUMANELY deal with a feral-cat problem wherever you live. This documentation INCLUDES the best firearms, ammo, and air-rifles required to HUMANELY destroy cats. deenawinter.files.wordpress.com/2010/12/ec1781.pdf

Besides, what difference does it make if the cat gets shot or ran over by a car, attacked by another cat or animal, drowned, or poisoned by plants animals or chemicals (inexpensive 1-adult-strength generic acetaminophen pain-relievers gaining in popularity, for being so species specific, far far safer than antifreeze and rat-poisons that cat-lovers have forced everyone else into using lately). The result is the same. The cause is the same -- the fault of the criminally irresponsible pet-owner that let their invasive species pet roam free. They've already proved that their animal is 100% expendable. You can either destroy their cat for them humanely, or let their lack of care cause it to inevitably die inhumanely. They don't care one bit how their cat might cruelly suffer to death if they let it roam free. Humanely destroy their cat for them before that can happen. A well aimed bullet is the MOST humane death that ANY stray or feral cat can ever look forward to. Any other death that they WILL eventually face is all inhumanely downhill from there.

OokyFanooky

Thank you Nature Advocate! I will aim at the proper spot next time, only with pellats instead of BB's.

Nature Advocate

Yes, you have to make sure that whatever firearm or air-gun you use that it is sufficient to kill, and not just maim. Shooting cats with BB's *IS* illegal, as that falls under shoot-to-maim. (Though in the cases of shooting invasive species birds, then some air-powered BB-guns are sufficient to do the job legally.) You must shoot-to-kill. Make sure your sights are well-aligned first and you won't waste one bit of ammo either. Out of the hundreds that I had to shoot and bury, I didn't waste even one bullet. 1 bullet = 1 cat. As it should be. Besides, wasting a 1/3cent on-sale bullet on a cat would be too much of a financial loss. No cat is even worth that. :-)

queenjhb

Take your meds ,your losing it. This problem has gone straight to your head, too much time hating cats.

Nature Advocate

Destroying cats is neither hating cats nor a fear of cats.

Why do mentally-unbalanced and psychotic cat-advocates always presume that if someone is removing a highly destructive, deadly disease spreading, human-engineered invasive-species from the native habitat to restore it back into natural balance that they must hate that organism? Does someone who destroys Zebra Mussels, Kudzu, African Cichlids, Burmese Pythons, Brown Tree Snakes, or any of the other myriad destructive invasive-species have some personal problem with that species? (Many of which are escaped PETS that don't even spread any harmful diseases, unlike cats.) Your ignorance and blatant biases are revealed in your declaring that people who destroy cats must somehow hate or fear cats. Nothing could be further from the truth.

It is people who let a destructive invasive-species roam free that tortures-to-death all other wildlife, wasted for their cats' play-toys, that have zero respect for ALL life. They don't even care about their cats dying a slow torturous death from exposure, animal attacks, diseases, starvation, dehydration, becoming road-kill, environmental poisons, etc., the way that ALL stray cats suffer to death. They don't even respect their fellow human being. This speaks more than volumes about your disgusting character. People like you should be locked up in prison for life for your cruelty to all animals, cruelty to your own cats as well as all the native wildlife that you let your cats skin alive or disembowel alive for their and your entertainment. If you let cats roam free you are violating every animal-abandonment, animal-neglect, animal-endangerment, and invasive-species law in existence.

If people do hate cats today, have LEARNED to hate cats today, you have nobody but yourself and everyone just like you to blame. YOU are the reason people are now realizing that all excess cats must be destroyed on-site and on-sight. You've done so much to make people care about cats, haven't you. If you want to do something about it, direct your sadly and sorely misplaced energies at those that are causing the problem, not at those who are actually solving it AND HAVE SOLVED IT 100%.

THIS IS YOUR FAULT and THE FAULT OF EVERYONE JUST LIKE YOU. You have *NOBODY* but yourselves to blame.

You can take that all the way to the very last shot-dead cat's grave.

queenjhb

humans are invasive species, are they next on your list? Humans destroy habitat and animals , but I dont want to eradicate us, just help people to be more responsible pet owners, curators of this beautiful planet, stop over population of people, and pets and give the wildlife a hand. All mammals can be and spread disease, Humans among them. Pollution is a bigger threat.

Nature Advocate

Here's my standard issue prepared reply for bible-home-schooled freaks like you:

Homo sapiens is NOT an invasive species ANYWHERE, you freakishly stupid moron. Since humans have the genetic code to give them the capability to travel/migrate to ANY part of the globe, this means they are native to any area that they have traveled to on their own. Just like birds that have this capability and can travel to different continents and islands. Those that have the flight-range required to do so are NATIVE to those areas that they are capable of traveling to ON THEIR OWN.

(And for the love of all that's good in the world, PLEASE don't display your further ignorance and stupidity by trying to claim that European, Native American, African, and Asian humans are different "species". That's usually your next huge omelet-on-the-face move that you astoundingly ignorant fools make.)

Whereas, an animal genetically engineered through selective breeding, such as CATS, are NOT AN INDIGENOUS SPECIES ANYWHERE. They are no more natural to any native environment anywhere on earth than some genetically engineered insect that was invented in some lab, that once released out into nature will destroy all native wildlife, JUST AS CATS DO. Someone once kept a "pet" bee one time. He too selectively bred this pet. After he selectively bred it it was called an Africanized Bee. It accidentally escaped his supervised confinement, and look what happened. Luckily for us they're' not destroying the complete food-chain in every ecosystem where they are found today, are limited in their range, and they're not spreading many deadly diseases to all humans and wildlife -- you know, all those fun things that these domesticated-species cats do.

If you phenomenally stupid cretins are going to use ecology, biology, speciation, and genetics in your arguments, the very LEAST that you could do is have a base comprehension of what you are talking about. Don't you think?

No. And that's the problem with terminally ignorant morons like you, you CAN'T think.

If ONLY there was a legal cure for "stupid".

SamAdams

Anybody who would poison an animal is sub-human. That being said, cats can't be poisoned if cats aren't running around loose! I realize that some cat owners out there think that Fluffy WANTS to go outside (Fluffy often does), and that because Fluffy wants to, it's okay. No, it isn't. There are cars, diseases, feral cats, unattended dogs, and yes, godawful neighbors. If you REALLY love Fluffy, keep him/her inside!

Factitious

Yep. And furthermore, it's illegal in Sandusky to let your animals run loose.

eightballcuet1

There is no law about cats running loose in Sandusky. The lease law only applies to dogs.
But it doesn't make any difference because this happened in Bellevue.

Nature Advocate

Licensing and laws do nothing to curb the problem. If cats are required to be licensed then cat-lovers just stop putting collars on their cats, as they did by me. And they won't even bother getting them micro-chipped, especially not that They want absolutely nothing that can hold them legally accountable for the actions of their cats. We're not talking about the topmost responsible citizens of the world. They don't want that responsibility of what their cat has done coming back on them. If they had even one iota of a sense of responsibility and respect for all other lives on this planet we wouldn't even be having these discussions.

I found something that DOES work, works well, and works fast (relative to the years it takes trying to educate deceitful and lying cat-lickers that accomplishes ABSOLUTELY NOTHING). Where I live cat-lickers have learned that _ALL_ cats, stray and feral, collared or not, ear-tipped or not (because TNR con-artists now just clip cats' ears only, WITHOUT sterilizing or vaccinating them, to protect their hoarded cats from being trapped and euthanized), _ALL_ their cats are shot on sight and buried whenever found away from supervised confinement.

The ONLY thing that works is destroying any of their cats found outdoors off their property. They either learn to stop getting more cats that die under the wheels of cars or from animal attacks, or they finally learn how to be a responsible pet owner, respectful neighbor, and learn to keep their invasive species animal under confined supervision, as it should be. Win win win all around.

You can't train a cat to stay home but I found that, in time, you CAN train a cat-owner into being a responsible pet-owner and a respectable neighbor. Most of them are so phenomenally stupid, disrespectful, and criminally irresponsible though that you have to make at least 12-15 of their cats permanently disappear before they even start to figure out what they've been doing wrong all during their sorry, useless, and pathetic lives. (Though the ones by me who were adopting "barn cats" from "barn-cat programs" were uniquely cretinized and lobotomized. I had to shoot and bury many hundreds of their cats, to stop their cats from annihilating the very last of my native wildlife, before they started to learn.)

If you live where its not legal to use firearms then check into 700-1200fps air-rifles and pointed vermin-pellets. Many of the new ones come with their own sound-suppressor designs built-in, specifically designed for shooting vermin cats in urban areas, the demand is that great. Failing that, then there's always the SSS and TDSS Cat Management Programs that are exploding in popularity worldwide. Shoot, Shovel, & Shut-Up; or Trap, Drown, Shovel, & Shut-Up. Both methods are legal on every square foot of this earth. No local laws were violated if it never happened. (Where cats have already learned to evade all trapping methods, then inexpensive generic acetaminophen (overseas paracetamol) pain-relievers are a more species-specific vermin poison. But you really need to dispose of that cat safely so that wildlife won't die from the diseases cats spread even after their death.)

I don't see anyone dumping cats where I live anymore. They don't even adopt more than can be kept under lock & key 24/7. When driving through the area I don't see even one cat on anyone's doorsteps anymore. I always keep an eye out to see if there are more free-roaming cats that will have to be shot. And if I'll have to leave fish-oil trails on all the roadsides again, leading right to my IR surveillance system and laser-sighted rifle. (You can read some of the most effective methods I invented to rid my lands of hundreds of these vermin in only two seasons, posted here: americanhunter.org/blogs/arkansas-will-trap-feral-cats The eradication so complete and effective that cats are non-existent from my area for over 3 years now. Not seen a one.

Leaving ANY of their invasive species cats outside in my area means certain death for that cat, their further existence can be counted in hours. You'd think everyone else could learn from this simple lesson. The quickest way to solve an unwanted animal and irresponsible pet-owner problem is to let everyone know that you will quickly and humanely destroy every last one of their unwanted, uncared-for, or unsupervised animals for them. They either grow up fast or, far more plausible, dump their animals elsewhere to become someone else's problem.

You just can't be an enabler of criminally irresponsible spineless and heartless idiots -- or they remain that way. (At least where you live, anyway.)

IF THERE ARE NOT DIRECT AND IMMEDIATE IRREVERSIBLE CONSEQUENCES TO THEIR CRIMINALLY-NEGLIGENT AND CRIMINALLY-IRRESPONSIBLE BEHAVIORS AND VALUES THEN THEY LEARN ABSOLUTELY *NOTHING*.

happyfeet64

I have to agree with you! I am a MAJOR animal lover and own 2 brother cats that are fixed and declawed(done b4 I got them). These 2 have ALWAYS been indoor cats and always will be. The very few occasions when they did get out freaked them out so bad, they were traumatized for a week. Fact- a cat that is allowed outside cuts there life expectancy down to only a few years compared to upwards of 20 for indoor cats. Fact-Feral CATS are just that FERAL. You can attempt to adopt them but if they are allowed in and out, it takes a long time, alot of patience and alot of frustration to convert them into your "kitty". Doesn't work that way. Cats are very territorial and remain so even after you try to give them a home away from the street life.I will never feed or try to take a feral cat into my home. It's just stupid.You want to call yourself a cat lover? Be responsible-get them fixed,take them to a vet, and if YOU really want them outside there are options- a caged in area for them to interact with the birds and such, leashes and harnesses to walk them(yeah takes some getting use to LOL) or there are even strollers made(lol) to push them around the neighborhood, window perches and last but not least TOYS!Condos, feather wands etc. Make their inside world just as exciting as what they would have on the outside. Although,I don't agree with shooting them,etc. I do understand the frustration of having ferals running amok. And to be honest, the majority of ferals are because of people that get a kitten or cat and they don't behave or they just are ignorant and thnk dropping them off somewhere will be fine- cats are able to hunt and take care of themselves etc. Makes me sick. Like someone else said- if you have the time to drop them off, take them to a shelter and give them a chance for a loving home.

mikeylikesit

must have been one tough cat if they did it before and it survived to be poisoned again..

luvblues2

They have nine lives.

Nature Advocate

Use a laser-sight on a firearm (or high-powered air-rifle and using vermin pellets) to aim for a precision chest-shot. They die in under 3 seconds, often less than 1 second, not even enough time to make a sound. This is FAR FAR FAR more humane than the days of terror and torment that even TNR advocates put their cats through (and then the slow INHUMANE "death by attrition" that they spew and embrace). Contrary to popular opinion, do not use a head-shot. I tried that once, it took longer for it to die. This leads me to believe that cats survive more by their reptilian brain-stem than any unused gray-matter that might be above it (just like cat-lovers do). I now also suspect this is the origin of their 9-lives myth. 1 bullet per cat if your aim is good, not 9 bullets. I didn't waste even one bullet on all the hundreds of cats that I was forced to destroy.

happyfeet64

I do find your screen name and the content of your posts to be ironic to say the least. Even though logically I understand the reason behind your post, emotionally I find you to be repugnant. If you had such a huge problem with ferals and are able to shoot them with a scoped and laser equipped weapon, why do you not have coyotes roaming your land? Do you shoot them also? Has it occured to you maybe they could have culled the population of ferals? That would have been more in tune with nature. Just saying.

Nature Advocate

The equation is this: destroy ONE free-roaming INVASIVE SPECIES CAT = save THOUSANDS of native animals' lives that would either be tortured to death or starved to death by that ONE cat, including any of the wildlife's offspring and potential offspring.

I wish I had more native predators around. Sadly, farmers and ranchers in my region have extirpated every last one of them. There haven't been coyotes around for decades. But that really wouldn't matter.

Read this discovery of mine. It explains why native predators cannot, will not, and do not keep these cat-populations in check. Even Australia found this out recently when they discovered that extra Dingos did nothing to curtail cats' breeding rates. Native predators might pick off a few of the muted-coat-pattern cats, and then dying in the process from the diseases in cats, but in the end you will be left with nothing but bold-patterned cats annihilating the lands, cats destroying everything, from smallest of prey to the top predators that are starved-out or displaced. Precisely what happened on my own lands.

Please read this post that explains why this perfectly natural anomaly happens: http://neighbors.denverpost.com/...

The ONLY predator on earth that can balance the equation of this MAN MADE CAT and MAN MADE ecological disaster today is a human with a discerning eye who can perceive which species must be destroyed with hunted-to-extinction methods (more correctly: extirpation of all outdoor cats in this case). It is the ONLY method that is faster than their breeding rates and cats' ability to out-adapt to any trapping methods. And also faster than criminally irresponsible morons let more cats be born and dumped outdoors.

aside: I find your screen-name ludicrous. You have absolutely NOTHING to be happy about (except for your bliss borne of self-inflicted ignorance). If you have cats around, your world is sadly empty. I estimate about 1 returning or 1 never-seen-before native species PER DAY have been showing up on my lands for the last 3+ years. That's a LOT of species that cats made disappear for the previous 15 years with them around. And conversely that's just how sad and empty your world has become if you have cats around. Still happy?

OokyFanooky

I can sympatyhize for the neighbor who allegedly poisoned this cat. I have had problems with cats coming into my yard and crapping all over it. They even come on my front and back porch and crap on my furniture and leave piles of hair all over the furniture as well. Now, I am animal lover as I have 3 dogs of my own, but if I have repeatedly asked you to keep them out of my yard and if that does not work, then I will take matters into my own hands which could be the situation here. So don't be hanging this neighbor from a noose if you do not know the whole story.

Factitious

Call the cops if you know who the owner is. They're in violation of 505.02 - DOGS AND OTHER ANIMALS RUNNING AT LARGE

OokyFanooky

Now why would I waste the cops time over a cat or two when they have more important things to be concerned about. A BB to the back side usually teaches them a lesson.

Factitious

That's punishing the animal for what the owner did. Better to punish the owner with the citation and the fine.

Nature Advocate

I found a perfectly 100% natural solution for those who don't want to take more direct and more effective measures against free-roaming invasive species cats. Anyone who has criminally irresponsible cat-lickers in their area need only plant lilies on their properties. (Must be from the Lilium species, not just with "Lily" in the common name, see notes.) Cat-lickers always want their more responsible neighbors to grow plants around the perimeter of their properties that will repel their cats for them (from the cat-owners' own criminally negligent and criminally irresponsible behaviors and values). Well now you can brighten up your yard AND repel cats naturally! -- PERMANENTLY

(WARNING: If these plants are not native to your region don't plant these if they cannot be contained, or risk introducing yet another invasive species!)

Google for: lily toxicity cats

It has been reported that a cat even licking a little bit of Lily pollen from their fur will be fatal in short order. A cat even drinking some of the water in which a bunch of lilies has been kept is also fatal to them.

Everyone happy! You get to have the kinds of plants that you want, they get to have the kind of pets that they want -- if they take care of it like any responsible grown-up would. Or are cat-lickers now going to demand that you can't plant flowers on your own property? That would be their next and usual move, wouldn't it.

A perfectly natural solution to an invasive species animal that didn't evolve with Lilium species around. Plus it's a good incentive plan for cat-lickers to finally educate themselves all about ecology, native species, and evolution. :-)

Doing a little research on ASPCA's toxic plants lists (Family: Liliaceae).

Lilies (Lilium species) that are deadly toxic to cats ONLY, in even small quantities (even the pollen will do):

Common Name | Scientific Name

Asian Lily (Asiatic Lily) | Lilium asiatica

Easter Lily | Lilium longiflorum

Red Lily | Lilium umbellatum

Rubrum Lily ** | Lilium speciosum cultivar

Stargazer Lily ** | Lilium orientalis

Tiger Lily ** | Lilium tigrinum

Wood Lily | Lilium umbellatum

(not of the Lilium species)

Orange Day Lily | Hemerocallis graminea

( ** see notes below)

Lilies (Lilium species) that may be toxic to dogs if the dog ingests enough:

[NONE]

Be sure they are from the Liliacea Family, has "Lilium" on the plant label or are common N. American Day Lilies. Many plants with "Lily" in the common-name are not of the "Lilium" species, and are in fact toxic to other species of animals besides cats. Double check. On further investigation I also found out that all plant-parts, the blossoms and pollen being the most toxic, if harvested and dried (for year-round use) are just as deadly toxic to cats (if not more-so because of the unknown toxin being concentrated), and the drying makes them even more palatable to cats. What a great mulch for gardens! (Or a ground-up additive for a special outdoor can of tuna.)

** There have been some anecdotal reports of some free-roaming cats that have spent many years around some of these particular species of plants and still survived. So it is best to harvest, dry, and grind-up the plants and mix them into any appropriate bait-foods to be most effective.

luvblues2

I love kitter-kats. But,...if you aren't mine and I catch you in my trash or walking on my car, you'd better have wings because you are gonna fly...

Nature Advocate

Making it "fly" is not going to help matters. One of my good friends has cats, and he regularly shoots any stray cats that he doesn't know to protect his own cats from all the deadly diseases that stray cats spread. He shoots cats to save the lives of his own cats.

(In fact, he's the one who gave me my rifle to rid my own lands of cats. I didn't even own a rifle until I found out from the Sheriff that it was the best and only way to get rid of a cat-infestation. It works and works well. Not seen even one cat in over 3 years, now going on 4. I do have to thank those cats for one thing though, they revealed that I had a hidden marksman skill I never knew I had. Thanks irresponsible cat-lickers and your vermin cats!)

Julie R.

lovelyblues2: If you don't want them in your trash, try putting a lid on it. If you don't want them walking on your car, try putting it in the garage.

Nature Advocate

If you don't want your cat shot, poisoned, ran-over by a car, attacked by another cat or other animal ... keep it in your house.

Since when did it become everyone else's responsibility to take care of your cat the way that YOU want?

I got 5000 rounds of .22's on a close-out sale for only $15. That's 3 cats per penny, $0.003 per cat. That's about as much time, money, and effort that I am willing to spend on anyone else's cat. Even that is too much, they're not even worth that.

If you don't want your cat taken care of in the manner that I see fit, then you keep it where you can take care of it the manner that you see fit.

Is this too difficult for you to comprehend?

Or are you stupidly going to try to believe that everyone everywhere should make the WHOLE WORLD safe for you and your cat so you can let it roam free? Think again, moron. People like you aren't worth anyone's time. You most certainly don't care about the lives of anyone else, not even the lives of your cats. Why should ANYONE care what YOU want?

Do you know how many fatal car-crashes and lifelong debilitating injuries are caused every year from people swerving their cars to miss your free roaming cats?

There should be a new bumper-sticker: FLATTEN A CAT -- SAVE A LOVING FAMILY OF 4

so.....

The one thing Nature said I agree with. I'm not responsible for your animal. So I have to build a garage to keep YOUR cat off MY car????? Ridiculas theory.

Nature Advocate

'Zactly. Asking you to do that is just as foolish as when some criminally irresponsible cat-licker wants everyone else to run around spraying all their property with pepper sprays and who knows all what else. Or buying expensive motion-sensitive devices to scare their cat away from everything. I have one of those, it's called a .22 rifle, and it only needs to be used ONE TIME per cat.

What? Do they want everyone in the world to spray the whole world with cat-repellant just to keep the owner's cat on its own property? That's the cat-licker's JOB. Let them waste their time keeping their piece-of-sh** home, that's nobody else's job in the whole world.

Bonus Info: Now you'll know the underlying reason why cat-lickers do this in the first place. Even they aren't aware of why they are more than happy to throw their cats under the wheels of moving cars and still claim they love cats, and why they can't stop themselves from doing so. Google for (include quotes):

Cats "Human Territorial Behavior By Expendable Proxy"

luvblues2

See my reply on the last page, Jules. I'm sure you won't appreciate it and it will make you think lesser of me.

But just like Nature Advocate who shoots them, I agree that 'loose cats' are more trouble than they are worth. Collar on them or not. I also eradicated the cat population around my home. I don't want this place turning into what Milan, Norwalk and even good sections of Bellevue, Clyde, Fremont and Monroeville have. Those are in-town cases. Living in the country is different. I live in town and cannot legally shoot them. Me being smarter than cats are, have various ways to make certain they don't come back.

They rarely catch the squirrels but they do catch the rabbits and anything else that was fauna around my place, and have given my dogs who are kept on MY property, severe scratches that need taken care of by a vet. No cheap ordeal.

Actually, they aren't much really different than raccoons.

Unassumer

if it's illegal to let your animals run loose, then why are there so many running loose?

OokyFanooky

Because people are not affraid of cats, unlike dogs. They are more of a nuisance than they are a safety hazard. Plus, you let your cats out, it does the dirty deed with a feral cat, then that feral cat has kittens and before you know it, you have cats roaming the streets and all hell breaks loose.

Factitious

Lawlessness starts with little things - incivilities and minor infractions - and snowballs. If you don't work on the little problems, you'll soon be working on big ones.

Nature Advocate

After 15 years of trying to reason with criminally negligent cat-lickers, I learned my lesson (at the loss of nearly all the native wildlife on my lands that were tortured or starved to death by their invasive species vermin cats). You can't train a cat to stay home; but I found that, in time; you CAN train a disrespectful, inconsiderate, and criminally irresponsible neighbor into being a responsible, considerate, and respectable adult. One who finally takes care of their animals like any responsible grown-up would.

Google for this complete string, as-is, including all quotes:

"Licensing and laws do nothing to curb the problem." AND "I don't see anyone dumping cats where I live anymore." AND "irreversible consequences to"

Therein you'll find a humane answer that works 100%, is affordable by any individual or size of community, and the cat problem is completely resolved PERMANENTLY in less than 2 seasons. Guaranteed.

People who let cats roam free only do so because they think their disease-ridden INVASIVE SPECIES cats are going to live idyllic lives chasing and torturing animals (valuable native species) or someone else will take care of their vermin cat for them. If they realize that that cat will die within hours or days from them having dumped it or letting it roam free, the dumping and free-roaming of cats stops 100%. They can't just believe it MIGHT happen, they have to KNOW that IT WILL HAPPEN. It worked where I live.

Did I mention that you have to ignore every last thing these deranged invasive species lickers spew to the world? That's the MOST important part. Asking them for advice and help to solve the problem they created and are hellbent on perpetuating is as foolish as asking career thieves for advice and help to hide your valuables from their self-justified motives and activities. That's where I made a foolish error for 15 years and lost nearly every last native animal on my lands because of it. Don't make the same mistake I did. Just do what needs to be done and the problem is solved -- PERMANENTLY.

Aside: In case you are curious -- the term that I use of "cat licker" is justifiably and accurately gleaned from the growing fad of people who are obsessed with cats and want to do everything possible to make their cats feel good, as naturally as possible, at the expense of all that is reasonable and sane.

They are now licking their cats clean.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=p9xmiOxsTWg

Since they see a cat fighting back from being washed in water as animal abuse, but the cat not fighting if they use their tongues, they use their tongues instead to wash their cats.

It's just another one of the many aberrant and mentally-ill behaviors of "cat lickers".

I cannot, in all honesty, EVER use the term "cat lover" again to describe these heartless and spineless cretins. People who love cats do not throw them under the wheels of moving cars, let them lap-up antifreeze in a gutter, force them to attack one another to fight for territory (no different than people who run dog-fight rings and are just as criminal of animal abuse), or let them be attacked by other animals by letting them roam free. "Cat Lover" is an extremely oxymoronic label. "Cat Licker" is the only one that accurately works today!

biggiesmalls

Annoyed kitty, touchy kitty,
grouchy ball of fur.
Moody kitty, grumpy kitty,
Grrr, grrr, grrr

Nature Advocate

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[Nature Advocate replies: That's a bunch of BS.]

so.....

Nice! Made me chuckle...lol

Nature Advocate

Glad you read it before the mentally and emotionally insecure 5-year-old moderators deleted it. :-)

BEHAPPY

If Nitros Law passes you people who are just evil haters might have a felony on your a$$ if you get caught. Karma will get you even worse~oh yes~and it WILL come back a slap you big time :) just a matter of time

ladydye_5

Live trap is not illegal. Now. or after Nitro's law.

Nature Advocate

I worry about these cat-lickers who believe in Karma.

If cat-lickers truly believe in Karma, maybe they'll be skinned alive or gutted alive someday, then left to flop around and scream in agony -- EXACTLY what they allowed their cats do to all other animals all during their sorry and useless lives. Then hoping their screams can draw the attention of someone with the strength of heart to put them out of their misery and torment. Like I had to do to all the wildlife on my lands that local cat-lickers tortured to death with their cats -- my being forced to stomp those poor suffering animals to death with my own boot to hush their agony and screams of suffering caused by their cats. May the cat-lickers who believe in karma hope like hell that I'm not the one to hear their screams for help after something has gutted them alive or skinned them alive one day. I'd just leave them there to rot to thoroughly learn their much-deserved lesson at long-last, not even risk dirtying my boots with their unused gray-matter.

I'd just keep on walking -- to a far far better day.

KnuckleDragger

Actually, Nitro's law would do nothing because it would still be legal to kill a feral cat. The bottom line is, if you want your pet cat to live a safe, happy life, keep them indoors for God sakes. Even the Cat Fanciers association strongly recommends that cats never be let outdoors unless it is in an enclosure that seals them in from all sides and the top. Letting kitty outside is stupid, considering the multiple risks to their well being.

Bubba's Buddy

I like Cats!!!
With a little garlic and red wine they taste just like chicken!

Nature Advocate

Due to all the heinous and deadly diseases that cats carry and spread today, it would be wrong to advise they be used for food or anything in this day and age (even in jest). The risk to anyone dressing them for even the use of their furs today (as they were commonly used in the past) could be deadly to the people involved.

These are just the diseases cats have been spreading to humans, not counting the ones they spread to all wildlife. THERE ARE NO VACCINES against many of these, and are in-fact listed as bio-terrorism agents. They include: Afipia felis, Anthrax, Bartonella (Rochalimaea) henselae, Bergeyella (Weeksella) zoohelcum, Campylobacter Infection, Cat Scratch Disease, Chlamydia psittaci (feline strain), Cowpox, Coxiella burnetti Infection (Q fever), Cryptosporidium Infection, Cutaneous larva migrans, Dermatophytosis, Dipylidium Infection (tapeworm), Hookworm Infection, Leptospira Infection, Giardia, Neisseria canis, Pasteurella multocida, Plague, Poxvirus, Rabies, Rickettsia felis, Ringworm, Salmonella Infection, Scabies, Sporothrix schenckii, Toxocara Infection, Toxoplasmosis, Trichinosis, Visceral larva migrans, Yersinia pseudotuberculosis. [Centers for Disease Control, July 2010] Sarcosporidiosis, Flea-borne Typhus, Tularemia, and Rat-Bite Fever can now also be added to that list.

(Yes, people have already died from cat-transmitted plague in the USA. Totally disproving that oft-spewed LIE that more cats in Europe could have prevented the plague. They would have made it worse.)

I tried feeding one of the shot-dead cats on my land to the last few starving opossum (almost all the rest of my native wildlife starved to death from cats destroying all their food sources). Thinking that for once these invasive-species cats could give back for what they had destroyed and wasted during their existence -- giving the remainder of the starved-out opossum a much needed protein boost. Those opossum promptly died from some disease in that cat-meat. Alarming -- in that opossum, due to their cooler body temperatures, cannot contract nor transmit many common diseases, not even rabies. They are one of the most disease-free animals in N. America. (Quite an admirable species when you learn about them. They've even recently isolated something in opossum's blood that makes any animal injected with it immune to the most deadly bio-toxins on earth.) Yet ... something in that cat-meat was able to kill all the opossum that were under my care (2 adults, 3 offspring they had while under my care). Cats truly are complete and total wastes of flesh. They can't even be used to safely feed wild animals. Leaving any of these invasive-species cats out in nature, alive OR dead, is no better than intentionally poisoning your native wildlife to death.

PLEASE dispose of them safely and responsibly. Wear gloves while doing so to protect yourself as well. After the last cat is gone incinerate or bury those gloves too.

KnuckleDragger

While I agree with you that destroying feral cats is the best way to control the population, the fact that you are incessantly posting about shooting cats is giving the impression that you have some mental health issues. One post would have been enough. If you enjoy killing them that much, maybe you should consider some counseling, before you move on to lets say, children.

Nature Advocate

Do not misconstrue post content and quantity with effort. Most of these are just single mouse-clicks. Wasting more effort than that in trying to explain the same things over and over again to moron cat-lickers is more than any of them are worth.

But if you still believe your perception, then here's one just for you (and all others like you who think that killing animals is a sign of mental-instability):

According to you and your demented ilk, this must be just like all those deeply disturbed serial-killers in the making that are eradicating all those other invasive-species in N. America; like Kudzu, Purple-Loosestrife, Gypsy Moths, Emerald Ash-Borers, African Cichlids, Burmese Pythons, Brown Tree Snakes, and Eurasian Watermilfoil from their lands and lakes. MANY of which are escaped pets or were released from pets' habitats (Eurasian Watermilfoil came from pet fish aquariums).

Or how about all those sickos that run animal-shelters, they're nothing but a bunch of child-murdering pedophiles because they have to euthanize animals every day. And every farmer and rancher that has to humanely put down an animal with a gun must be molesting and murdering everything in their county. Those damned sickos! And what about all those people in stockyards murdering all those cattle every day for your McBurgers? I bet they're a hide-out for all the serial-killers that nobody can find! And all those hunters that provide food for their family by hunting, I bet they're the worst of all!

And of course, the ABSOLUTELY WORST, MOST MENTALLY-ILL OF ALL -- all those people that are INTENTIONALLY paying others to murder all those MILLIONS of INNOCENT animals to make your cat-food for you! A bunch of demented basket cases! They're probably the MOST heinous and notorious serial-killers of all! (on this one I'd agree)

I bet you're onto something!

Like your needing serious psychological help.

Paranoid psychotic much?

KnuckleDragger

I didn't misconstrue anything. Your post content and quantity suggest that you have an unnatural propensity for violence towards animals. Your rantings suggest an element of mental instability, not an attempt at rational discourse on the subject of feral feline population control.

I certainly don't believe that all killing of animals is a sign of mental illness, I farm on a small scale, and raise animals that are eventually slaughtered for food. However, an unnatural obsession with it, coupled with the obvious enjoyment you seem to get from it, would lead most to believe you have a psychiatric condition. The post above proves it.

Julie R.

@ Nature Advocate: If nobody else likes you, be rest assured Satan does.

Nature Advocate

Destroying all our native wildlife with an invasive-species predator, and spreading many deadly zoonotic diseases to humans and all other animals through your man-made cats, could only be construed as "good work" by the ruler of hell. You are aware that TNR (trap, neuter, re-abandon) falls under the definition of bio-terrorism, aren't you? On a two-fold level, no less. Not only are these invasive species harmful to all other animals on earth, but they also spread many deadly diseases that are already listed as bio-terrorism agents. If I release 100 diseased pet Black Mambas in your backyard are you going to call that an admirable effort too? Moron much?

It is people who let a destructive invasive-species roam free that tortures-to-death all other wildlife that have zero respect for ALL life. They don't even care about their cats dying a slow torturous death from exposure, animal attacks, diseases, starvation, dehydration, becoming road-kill, environmental poisons, etc., the way that ALL stray cats suffer to death. They don't even respect their fellow human being. This speaks more than volumes about your disgusting character. People like you should be locked-up in prison for life for your cruelty to all animals, cruelty to your own cats as well as all the native wildlife that you let your cats skin alive or disembowel alive for their and your entertainment.

Why don't you just go and buy canaries and hamsters to throw them at your cats so your cats can live the "full outdoors experience"? Is the ONLY reason that you don't entertain you cats that way is because it's too expensive? Surely it's not because you don't think that that would be inhumane, otherwise you wouldn't use all of our innocent and defenseless wildlife for this purpose OF YOURS. It's because it's cheaper to use all our native wildlife for this INHUMANE purpose OF YOURS, isn't it. C'mon, admit it.

YOU are the reason people are now realizing that all excess cats must be destroyed on-site and on-sight. You've done so much to make people care about cats, haven't you. If you want to do something about it direct your sadly and sorely misplaced energies at those that are causing the problem, not at those who are actually solving it AND HAVE SOLVED IT 100%.

THIS IS YOUR FAULT and THE FAULT OF EVERYONE JUST LIKE YOU. You have NOBODY but yourselves to blame.

You can take that all the way to the very last shot-dead cat's grave.

Nature Advocate

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meowmix

Nature-- there is really something seriously wrong with you. I sense you take great pleasure in killing these beautiful creatures. Seek help immediately-- you know what they say about serial killers don't you? They graduated to humans after killing innocent animals just didn't do it for them any longer.

KnuckleDragger

I agree, and he calls me psychotic for pointing out to him that his unnatural obsession with killing felines may be abnormal. Oh well, you can't fix stupid. While I don't disagree with destroying ferals, this moron advocates killing every cat that finds its way on his property. I live in a very rural area, and yes we do destroy ferals that threaten our chickens and destroy property, but most find little enjoyment in it and certainly don't get on a comment board and repeat it ad nauseum. One day this moron is going to kill one of his neighbors cats and either 1) they are gonna put one between his eyes, or 2) sue him civilly. Keep in mind, animals are considered property in this state, and there is some precedence in the courts of people winning monetary awards because some nutty neighbor decided to kill fluffy. It wouldn't be to hard for a lawyer to get ahold of this guys posts to use as evidence. Afterall, the SR does record your IP address when you post.

Nature Advocate

I've already shot and buried every last one of my neighbors cats. And guess who told me to do so? Funny story: The neighbors called the Sheriff one more time that I was threatening to shoot their cats that were showing up on my lands. The Sheriff too had had enough of their cat-licking nonsense over the years. He told me to shoot their cats and don't stop until every last one is gone from my lands, while he was standing right in front of them. Then he just walked away. That call of theirs to the Sheriff certainly backfired, now didn't it. LOL

You just don't get it, do you. MORON.

KnuckleDragger

Keep in mind, something doesn't have to be illegal for you to be sued. You just don't get it. If your neighbors were horders you should have called the health department, that would have put a stop to it. I'm sure your neighbors just love you.

Nature Advocate

The ONLY people who are claiming and believing that killing cats is fun or somehow enjoyable are you pathetic mentally defective cat-lickers.

Why do you hopelessly psychotic cat-advocates always claim that people who are forced to destroy cats must enjoy it somehow? It's a DISGUSTING JOB, and you'd know that if you ever were forced to do it. But one that MUST be done. Like cleaning a filthy toilet or emptying a septic tank. And I am EVER SO HAPPY NOW THAT THAT JOB IS OVER on my lands.

Do you HONESTLY think it's fun having waste valuable time from your own life to shoot and bury hundreds of YOUR piece-of-sh** cats? You can't even use them for pelts today like they were commonly used in the past, not with all the deadly diseases they carry today. YOUR CATS ARE A TOTAL WASTE OF EVERYONE'S TIME, WILDLIFE, AND MONEY. Cleaning a septic tank is more enjoyable than trying to rid your land of cats, because at least you know when the job is finally done and it only lasts a few hours, not a couple seasons of your valuable life.

The death of any animal is never enjoyable. For you to project that into what I have stated only reveals your OWN deep and dark pathological values. (How's that for a 100% accurate observation, eh?)

KnuckleDragger

You should probably stop posting before the guys with the straight jacket, from the state mental hospital you escaped from find you. Nice job of backpedaling though.

Nature Advocate

Moderators have removed this comment because it contained Off-topic comments.

[Nature Advocate replies: Oh, but KnuckleDragger's comment wasn't off topic? LOL Wow, I'm dealing with a bunch of bambi-cartoon-educated mommy's-basement dwellers here.]

KnuckleDragger

Nice job of showing your below average IQ.

happyfeet64

RE: Nature's Advocate Again I understand the frustration and anger you seem to have that is unnaturally overflowing from you. But, take a bit of advice- you really need to see a mental health specialist, as your rage and hatred is completely out of proportion. If you are exhibiting this much emotion over something like this, what other areas of your life do you rage on when YOU are not able to control situations or people in your life? Your rantings concern me(in a strictly professional sense).And I'm posting this not because of my love for animals but because seriously, from your descriptive text and obvious enjoyment of killing, you really are out there!Your wife and children should be concerned also.

Nature Advocate

You can look at it this way .... it took me 15+ years of dealing with cat-lickers who did ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to stop their cats from annihilating all the wildlife on my lands, and 2 seasons of shooting cats to get rid of every last stray cat on my lands; feral, pet, it mattered not. This was accomplished through relentless vigilance and accuracy. I realized afterward that the ONLY way to prevent this from ever happening again was to apply the very same techniques now to those that had caused this local ecological disaster in the first place. To stop them, for all native wildlife, for myself, and everyone else that has been tormented in life by people just as much of a mindless moron as you. I'm not going away until every last person that advocates the release of invasive-species cats has been stopped from practicing their criminally-irresponsible behavior. You can count on that. Payback's a bitch, Bitch.

You might want to have your paranoid psychoses looked at. It's rather pronounced.

meowmix

Yeah, you're a big bad a$$ alright. I have a family of six chipmunks outside my back door. They like to dig in my mulch and do damage to my flower beds, but you know what? I wouldn't think of harming them because they are cuter than all get out to watch. Besides, the fox snake that is residing under my deck occassionally gets lucky enough to catch one and have himself a nice meal. That is nature. Now, you go to the yellow pages and look up "Psychiatric Care" and call one of the phone numbers you see.....

KnuckleDragger

In Ohio, you're not allowed to kill a neighbor's cat that has wandered onto your property:

ORC 959.02 Injuring animals.
No person shall maliciously, or willfully, and without the consent of the owner, kill or injure a horse, mare, foal, filly, jack, mule, sheep, goat, cow, steer, bull, heifer, ass, ox, swine, dog, cat, or other domestic animal that is the property of another. This section does not apply to a licensed veterinarian acting in an official capacity.

So you are admitting that what you are doing is illegal? I hope your neighbors are reading this and figure out who you are. Just because the sheriff let you off the hook doesn't mean anything. All you neighbor has to do is file a complaint with the county prosecutor. Your numerous posts on this site is pretty damaging evidence. If you don't think you are identifiable on this comment board you are wrong! These posts can be gotten via supoena and then you are toast. Afterall, you have admitted several times that you killed all of your neighbors cats. Hopefully the SR will remove your posts due to you advocating illegal activity.

Nature Advocate

Quoting laws out of context (that contradict your very own words by-the-way), only proves that you are a manipulative fool, desperate for attention, and nothing more.

KnuckleDragger

Nothing out of context there. How do they contradict my own words? I never implied it was ok to shoot your neighbors pets. I specifically stated FERAL felines. Killing your neighbors pets is illegal, and a simple google search will show you that there are numerous successful prosecutions in Ohio of people just like you, that killed their neighbors pets. The only one desparate for attention is you. Apparently you didn't think you were getting enough so you posted the same gibberish a half dozen times until someone finally called you on it. Now that you can't rationally debate the merits of your obtuse line of thinking it's on to the name calling and making things up. I'm done with you, since it is unlikely that you will post anything of intelligence.

meowmix

Bravo KnuckleDragger!-- I'm with you. I guess you just can't argue with insanity eh?

Nature Advocate

When you can cite ONE case, where the cat was shot on the shooter's OWN property, and there were no veterinarians, vet-bills, nor later euthanasia involved (all being signs that this is actually an illegal shoot-to-maim case, and not a legal shoot-to-kill case), then perhaps you will be believed. But I suspect you have fallen prey to they very same manipulative and deceptive BS that all cat-lickers have been spewing for decades. Citing shoot-to-maim cases and claiming this proves that shoot-to-kill cases are also illegal. Vets, vet-bills, or later euthanasia in their story is always a clear sign you've been sadly manipulated.

YAWWNN

Here is one, you freaking wingnut:

Recently, a Fremont man shot and killed his neighbors cat.

Reporting officer, Deputy Zender, wrote in his report, "When I spoke with David Pickard he informed me that he was sick of the cats in his yard killing his birds and bunnies. I asked him what he did about the cat that was in his yard today and he stated he took care of it. I asked where was the cat and he stated he buried it in the marsh and it was turtle food now."

Mr. Pickard was charged, found guilty and fined only $100 plus court cost by Judge Burkett.

I sat in the courtroom during the sentencing, and when Judge Burkett asked Mr. Hart his opinion concerning what the fine should be, Mr. Hart explained to the judge that he had no recommendation.

Saturday's News-Messenger reported that Bob Hart declined to offer his views on the sentence but (Bob Hart) said such cases should be viewed based on a spectrum.

Hart was quoted as saying, "On the one hand you have somebody who maliciously killed somebody's pet and on the other hand you have someone who killed somebody's cat because he thought it was a feral cat. There will be some that will argue that fact and will believe the court's sentence was too lenient, but ... there's no way to ascertain what Mr. Pickard's thoughts (were) when he pulled the trigger."

I’d like to ask Mr. Hart why it makes a difference whether or not Pickard believed the cat was feral.

It is against the law in the state of Ohio to shoot a cat in your yard, even if you believe the cat doesn't have an owner. If you do so, you're breaking the law.

Ohio Law 959.13 clearly defines what Ohio courts regard as a companion animal; “Companion animal” means any animal that is kept inside a residential dwelling and any dog or cat regardless of where it is kept.

Society for the Protection of Animals, Inc. (S.P.A.) agrees that the safest place for a cat is inside and we won’t adopt a cat to someone who plans on allowing their cat to roam outside. At the same time, S.P.A. does not support breaking the law by killing cats, feral or otherwise

Additionally, Ohio State Law 959.02, INJURING ANIMALS says that, "No person shall maliciously, or willfully, and without the consent of the owner, kill or injure a horse, mare, foal, filly, jack, mule, sheep, goat, cow, steer, bull, heifer, ass, ox, swine, dog, cat, or other domestic animal that is the property of another. This section does not apply to a licensed veterinarian acting in an official capacity."

Another Ohio Law, 959.03 forbids POISONING OF ANIMALS. This law makes clear that, "No person shall maliciously, or willfully and without the consent of the owner, administer poison, except a licensed veterinarian acting in such capacity, to a horse, mare, foal, filly, jack, mule, sheep, goat, cow, steer, bull, heifer, ass, ox, swine, dog, cat, poultry, or any other domestic animal that is the property of another; and no person shall, willfully and without the consent of the owner, place any poisoned food where it may be easily found and eaten by any of such animals, either upon his own lands or the lands of another.

In April 2003 prohibitions concerning companion animals were rewritten in the state of Ohio. Current Ohio law regarding animal abuse clearly states that the maximum sentence for anyone found guilty of knowingly torturing, tormenting, needlessly mutilating or maiming, cruelly beating, poisoning, needlessly killing, or committing an act of cruelty against a companion animal is 6 months in jail and a $1,000 fine. The first offense is a misdemeanor of the first degree.

If you are found guilty of any of the above for the second time, it becomes a fifth degree felony punishable with a maximum sentence of 6-12 months in prison and up to a maximum $2,500 fine.

http://www.spaohio.org/news_3396...

Shall I post more? Now go take your antipsychotics nutcase.

Nature Advocate

I'd ask you to post more, but you won't find more.

I had no idea that Ohio had been so sadly manipulated by cat-lickers. 'Tis truly sad indeed.

Well, then everyone else? Just use the SSS and TDSS Cat-Management Programs that are exploding in popularity worldwide. If cat-lickers can find ways around all the animal-abandonment, animal-neglect, and animal-endangerment laws that are supposed to force them to keep their cats on their own properties, then there are loop-holes to that allow you to do likewise. :-)

Shoot, Shovel, & Shut-Up; and Trap, Drown, Shovel, & Shut-Up.

This is what you are left-with when cat-lickers have hijacked your lands and lives by so easily manipulating your lawmakers.

SSS -- Shoot, Shovel, & Shut-Up
TDSS -- Trap, Drown, Shovel, & Shut-Up

Those are your two very best friends when living next-door to a criminally irresponsible cat-licker. Legal on every square foot of this earth. No local laws were violated if it never happened. Many a raccoon, dog, car, coyote, hawk, cat-napper, etc, was blamed for a neighbor's missing cat that is now acting as fertilizer for rose-bushes.

Good luck! :-)

Nature Advocate

p.s. a $100 fine is often worth far less than any damage a cat can do. If it'll only cost you $100, shoot the damn thing. LOL

YAWWNN

Keep in mind this occured before Ohio passed a new law making the penalty $1000 fine and 6 mos in jail. With all the cats you claim to have killed, you would quickly find yourself in the poor house since the penalty is for each charge.

So tell me, how long before you start killing children who find themselves on your property? Jeffrey Dahmer started by killing cats too.

YAWWNN

Oh and try this one, by the way this cat did end up dying and the man who shot him was convicted of animal cruelty. If it's not illegal, as you say, then please tell me what county you live in. I will contact the prosecutor and give them transcripts of your postings, admitting to the crime of animal cruelty. You should have no problem with me forwarding this information along with your identifying IP address since as you say, "it's completely legal." My guess is that you don't have the guts because you are either lying to stir up poop or you just haven't been caught. I'm betting you're a liar, because if you were telling the truth, you would have been prosecuted.

http://www.sanduskyregister.com/...

Oh, and by the way, I have about 20 more cases, but I have no need to post them. You yourself said only one case needed to be posted, I gave you two. Your not the brightest bulb, so now that I made my point, and you again find yourself to be a failure, you can stick your head between your legs and lick your cat!

Nature Advocate

Oh, tsk tsk, you fail. THAT is a shoot-to-maim case. LOL

YAWWNN

Oh tsk, tsk, no its not. The SR didn't do a follow up. How do I know, Beth works with me. Run along little man, don't you have to plan that first killing of yours? A good shrink will help you decipher those voices in your head.

Kottage Kat

Nature advocat
Hiss on you

Kat

LadyC

If I had a choice between having a freak neighbor like Nature Advocate, who I picture as some crazed Ted Nugent wanna-be, or a bunch of cats, I'll take the cats. It would be really cool to see someone like Nature Advocate tied up, sprinkled with tuna water, and covered with a hundred hungry feral cats. Karma.

meowmix

lololololol! Beautiful!

queenjhb

agree, he has to be some lurking sadist, crazy scary obsession.

luvblues2

Those cats I caught were given whatever we consider the humane death penalty for humans in Ohio. Like I said, if they didn't have wings they had better learn to fly. They were humanely trapped and fed a last meal in that cage also with water. The next day, they were taken to a very deep quarry with no water in it. About a hundred foot drop. They committed suicide when I opened that trap... 3 foot from the edge and they dove to their death.

Those cats knew how to open my trash lids and I'll be damned if I will build a garage to keep cats off my cars.

I love my kitters. They get nurtured, neutered, spayed and stay in the house. After all that is done, they don't even want to go out. My kitters are good mousers, that's why we have them. They are loved, BUT they don't go out. They also get regular vet check ups.

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Tue, 06/04/2013 - 5:52am)

Julie R.

If I was ever ignorant enough to do anything as sadistic as what you just said, I sure would never be ignorant enough to BRAG about it!

luvblues2

Who is BRAGGING, Jules? I'm just reporting on how I have taken care of a problem that used to exist in my area. That isn't sadism either. Quick and painless. It wasn't like I laughed at what needed done. Cats are a dime a dozen and if people took care of them as I do, that 'problem' would never exist.

queenjhb

luvblues2, Im glad you take care of your own cats, that says a lot, but it comes across like you enjoy this torture, next,. cruel videos are in your future

luvblues2

Where do I promote torture, queen? Please quote it.

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thinkagain

Pretty neat little trick…I wonder if it would work on Liberals?

Julie R.

I've never seen a cat yet that knows how to open a trash can lid. Must have been some very intelligent cats. As for jumping on cars --- those shiny new cars depreciate thousands of dollars the minute you drive them off the lot and they don't depreciate because a cat jumped on them. If people are so concerned about their cars that they use them as an excuse to sadistically kill cats, may I suggest if you ever pre-plan your funerals, ask the funeral director if you can take your cars with you.

Blues

You don't know cats very well then, Jules. Ever start your car about ten minutes after shutting it off and have your fan blade go wacko because some stray wanted to keep warm in the winter because it's owner didn't let it IN? Then ya gotta clean that mess up? Cats are ingenious and nefarious animals. They will F*!k your stuff up.

Julie R.

If your comment was intended to justify the sadistic killing of cats, it was stupid beyond belief.

Blues

In your opinion.

Kottage Kat

Julie
No cars, I am taking my katz

Kat

eriemom

I just did a google search using, "invasive species + cat". There is a lot out there that backs up what Nature is ranting about. Still...he seems to have a vendetta. The good news is that I don't think he is local.

meowmix

Actually eriemom-- certain insects are much more of an invasive species and causes more damage. But the five top invasive species in the US are: 1) Constrictors 2) Asian Carp 3) Zebra Mussels 4) Mongoose 5) Starlings.

My personal problem is the tons of rabbits I have around my house--but you know, I spray a deterrent around my garden and certain plants and we can co-exist. I have several stray kitties wander through my yard and may catch the unaware bird from time to time--usually a STARLING--which doesn't break my heart.

queenjhb

Yes ,they have for sale cat & dog repellents, they work.

Nature Advocate

Good! Then if you don't want your cat shot to death, start buying some and spray them around the perimeter of every property where you don't want your cat to roam. But get the property-owner's permission first, lest you be convicted of vandalism and endangering lives of others and other animals with toxic chemicals.

Nature Advocate

So does this mean we shouldn't destroy cats everywhere they are spotted until they are in the top 5? African Cichlids aren't on your list of 5, but there are laws in place that if you are found to so-much as even transport one across the road in a living condition, you can be steeply fined. They MUST be destroyed on-site immediately. Throwing one back after you have caught one is also a criminal offense and you can be fined just as steeply as the original perpetrator of this crime against nature.

(Hint: once an animal has been declared an invasive species, the ONLY numbers that matter are how fast it is breeding, how far it has spread, and do we have the financial and time-restraint resources to destroy them fast enough to stop their destruction of native species and habitat.)

100 of the World's WORST Invasive Alien Species

http://www.issg.org/database/spe...

"38. Felis catus (mammal) English français
Felis catus was domesticated in the eastern Mediterranean c. 3000 years ago. Considering the extent to which cats are valued as pets, it is not surprising that they have since been translocated by humans to almost all parts of the world. Notable predators, cats threaten native birdlife and other fauna, especially on islands where native species have evolved in relative isolation from predators.
Common Names: cat, domestic cat, feral cat, Hauskatze, house cat, poti, pusiniveikau "

44846GWP

Keep your Cat in the house, plain and simple!