Republicans demand repeal of GOP health care plan

Tom Jackson
Sep 24, 2013
If you follow the latest dismal news from Washington, you know that Republicans in Congress are threatening to shut down government funding unless lawmakers go along with eliminating Obama Care. The deadline for passing a budget is Monday, Sept. 30.
Republicans so far say they are willing to shut down the government if Democrats don’t agree to defund Obama Care.
The odd thing about the standoff is that Republicans want to punish Democrats for pushing through what was essentially a Republican health care plan.
During Democrat Bill Clinton’s first term, the president and his Democratic allies in Congress tried to pass a program to provide health coverage to all Americans. The Clinton plan essentially was to require all employers to furnish health coverage, with an individual mandate to cover everyone else, and subsidies to help people who couldn’t afford the coverage.
Everyone would have been required to buy insurance from new regional health alliances. A key element of the plan was “managed competition,” i.e., there would be a standard benefits package, with insurers competing on quality and cost.
Republicans countered with their own plan, drawn up by the conservative Heritage Foundation. It would essentially have preserved the current system, but imposed an individual mandate for everyone to buy health insurance and provided subsidies to the poor. 
The Romneycare plan that then-Gov. Mitt Romney signed into law in Massachusetts was very similar to the Heritage Foundation plan, and so was Obama Care, the plan that Democrats pushed through during Obama’s first term. The Obama plan, whatever you think of it, was much less radical than what many Democrats would have preferred.
Republicans, then, are trying to repeal a plan that’s very similar to what their 2012 presidential nominee back when he was a governor, and very similar to what Republicans backed during the Clinton administration.
One final bit of irony: The current leadership of the Heritage Foundation is pushing for the Obama Care repeal effort. This is a particular sore spot with conservatives who don't like Obama Care but who think shutting down the government will only hurt Republicans.
See, for example, this Wall Street Journal editorial, which complains, "These columns opposed ObamaCare before it was known by that name, and we may have even been the first to call it by that name. We also don't need any lectures about principle from the Heritage Foundation that promoted RomneyCare and the individual mandate that is part of ObamaCare. Or from cable TV pundits who sold Republicans on Mitt Romney despite RomneyCare." See also this column by James Taranto, who also thinks the defunding effort is a bad idea politically.






The Big Dog's back

Earth to pooh, the country was long divided before Obama.


Re: "country was long divided before Obama,"

True. But his political browbeating continuous campaign style and his coercive Progressive agenda has raised the tenor.

"Senator Says Politics Have Reached Civil War Levels":

Back to topic:

Since you're a big proponent and cheerleader for Obama☭are; third request:

So your health care benefits are provided how?

The Big Dog's back

Me and my employer.


Re: "my employer"

Your "employer" PROVIDES them - not YOU.

So, in other words: "Affordable" INDIVIDUAL health care plans & premiums on the exchanges are good for others, but NOT for you.

Is your employer a public or a private entity?

The Big Dog's back

My employer facilitates healthcare. We the workers pay for it. I know you can figure that out, but if not ......


Re: "We the workers pay for it"

100%? No employer subsidy?

Again: Public or private?

I brokered and sold group life & A&H ins. Also worked for an HMO. I've forgotten more than you'll ever know.

The Big Dog's back

Employer subsidy in place of wage increases.


Re: "Employer subsidy in place of wage increases."

Of course, better deductibility. Still money in the worker's pocket.

IMO, employer provided health care should be a taxable benefit to the employee. It would help level the playing field.

Why should individuals who buy it on the exchanges have to pay with after-tax dollars?

Third request: Public or private? Do you not understand the question?

AJ Oliver

Hey Tom Jackson -Nothing good can come from engaging with folks who lack the courage to post under their own names. All you get are ad hominum attacks, name calling and gibberish - kinda like Jr. High. Some of the stuff on the SR blog borders on cyber-stalking. Is the Register really OK with that?


Re: "folks who lack the courage to post under their own names."

It remains a weak argument presented by those who cannot intellectually articulate and factually support their positions in the forum as structured.

Yea, your previous "crickets" comment was 'real' mature. :)

Pot, kettle, black.

Dr. Information

Its the Sandusky register. Why do you think some of these liberal clowns rarely post on the NR anymore? Because they actually make an attempt to moderate it and ban people. The name calling shows the maturity and intelligence level of these posters.

Im still waiting for some moderation on this site. They have all these rules set in place but nobody moderates them. Hell, let me do it. I'll do it for free SR.


Like many of us continue to post, read and digest! Yes my post was over-loaded with Democrats which surely, in this case, was not my point but Mark Waggoner is a Republican. I am a registered Democrat until the next Primary, and I voted against O,Bama in both Primaries and in the General election. I feel sometimes it's more important to vote against a candidate than for one. This was My "OPINION" when I voted, anyone but Barack, even Hillary at the time. It din't have to be Hillary or Sarah Palin. I would have settled for Martha Stewart.


@ The Big Dog's back:

Here's an idea for you and the others that think that Obama☭are is such great sh*t:

Suggest to your employer to just cut you a check like Walgreen's, Trader Joe's and others are in the stages of doing for their employees and go buy your OWN insurance on the exchanges.

Buy the cheapest plan and hopefully pocket any left over bucks!

"As A Result Of Obamacare, Employer-Based Health Insurance Is Becoming Extinct":

Like excessive govt. regulation led to the demise of the traditional defined benefit pension plan and brought about the defined contribution 401(k) type plans in the private sector, Obama☭are is DESTROYING the employer sponsored health ins. system.

The Big Dog's back

Aaaaaa, I really wanted single payer.


Re: "single payer"


The Progressives had to design a private payer system that was destine to fail, blame it on the free market and then "ride to the rescue" with socialized medicine.

The Progressives don't care how much pain, misery and confusion that they cause in the process, because they're ruthless power hungry Machiavellians - the ends justifies the means.

"Atlas Shrugged":

"We’re after power and we mean it. You fellows were pikers, but we know the real trick, and you’d better get wise to it."



@ Doggie:

So your idea is: Scr*w the "little people" on the exchanges, I've got MINE through my employer?

Fourth request for an answer:

Is your employer a public or a private entity?

Do you not understand the question and need clarification?

The Big Dog's back

The "little people"? By the way NOYB.


Re: "By the way NOYB."

Afraid to answer eh?

Since you're a cheerleader for Obama☭are, gotta figure that you're somewhat sheltered from this abortion of a program - scr*w everyone else eh?

Public or private doggie?

Ned Mandingo

It looks like the entitlement people won. Free healthcare, food stamps, child care, schooling, ect. Congratulation Obama you created a whole culture of losers with no ambition to accomplish anything for themselves.
The only question is what will these people do when the handouts dry up?


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