Obama official caught misleading Congress

Tom Jackson
Jun 7, 2013

President Obama, defending his domestic spying program today, said that Congress knows all about it. 

"Obama said Congress had been fully briefed on the various secret programs, and suggested that lawmakers who disapproved of those initiatives or to 'abuses' could have objected," says this Yahoo News account.

Oh, really? A dramatic example has emerged of the administration's idea of "fully briefing" Congress: An Obama administration official who denied in testimony before Congress that the National Security Agency collects data from millions of Americans.

Here was the exchange between Sen. Ron Wyden, D-Ore., and the president's director of national intelligence, James Clapper:

Wyden: So what I wanted to see is if you could give me a yes or no answer to the question: Does the NSA collect any type of data at all on millions or hundreds of millions of Americans?

Clapper: No, sir.

Wyden: It does not.

Clapper: Not wittingly. There are cases where they could inadvertently perhaps collect, but not wittingly.

This was not exactly the truth.

Citation: Here and here.

 

 

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Darwin's choice
Darwin's choice
Darwin's choice

And, the hits just keep coming...
http://redflagnews.com/headlines...

Grandpa04

This cant be true, polotitions lie?

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Mime Bloggling

"Obama official caught misleading Congress"

Isn't the word 'misleading' another word for lying?

http://michellemalkin.com/2013/0...

Maggdi

I won't criticize the main point of this post, but that 'you can't see the forest afore the trees'.
The scope at this point in history of direct abuses of individual liberty and freedom is breathtaking. Everyone needs to stop and ruminate about whether we, as individuals truly have any expectation of liberty or what liberty means for that matter.
Does our safety and well being depend on ourselves or the government?
Or something in between? Because if you're an 'in betweener' I have inconsolable news for you: That dog won't hunt. It's either one or the other. And one at least has a chance of working for more individuals than the other. The other is a Little Shop of Horrors in the making.
So I guess our question is: is the collective more important than the individual?

I want one hundred and fifty words on that by Monday. FYI, I can spot plagiarism!

coasterfan

Sorry to burst your bubble, but this began in 2007 under Bush. It's a direct result of The Patriot Act, which was the first obvious challenge to the 4th Amendment. If you didn't complain then, it's pretty hypocritical to complain now, especially given the fact that Congress knew about and repeatedly approved Prism over the past 6 years.

Maggdi

I complained and resisted! I will repeat that the Patriot Act is an abomination! From conception.
I was also under the impression that our current President was going to make all bad things go away.... Oh wait. I get it. the conservative/ repuglitan's prevented the One from setting these wrong's right.

Contango

Re: "If you didn't complain then,"

Hated it then, hated it even more after expansion.

Re: "Congress knew about and repeatedly approved Prism over the past 6 years."

Then why the outcry from the NY Times, Al Gore and several Dem members of Congress???

So you OK with this coasterfan?

The Big Dog's back

It wasn't a problem with the right wingers until a Black man became President.

Contango

^^^ “Almost as bad as the FACT that we have a Black President.” - The Big Dog’s back, Oct. 18, 2011 :)

The Big Dog's back

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Maggdi

It was a problem and I had hoped at the time that our two party system would stop this travesty. I was astonished when the Democrats went along with it. Until I realized All those new unionized government workers that would have to be hired to administer a new bureaucracy. They must of been salivating.

Maggdi

*** Crickets ****

2cents's picture
2cents

Who tracks you more? Big brother or Google and Amazon LOL

Contango

Re: "Amazon"

The State of OH should track on-line purchases and send consumers a tax bill for all the unpaid sales taxes.

Since the Obamabots love the IRS and the NSA, they oughta have no objection.

Maggdi

And give this leviathan even more resources?
Let's hold off on anymore revenue raising ideas until we certify that we aren't paying some poor hard working civil servant's $3700 a night hotel bill at the very least..

The Big Dog's back

So you think kassick is a Leviathan now huh? Who knew?

Contango

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2cents

Are you suggesting the consumption only tax? It may work if the reporting can be done right.

Contango

Re: "Are you suggesting the consumption only tax?"

Seems to work well for states like TX and others.

The Big Dog's back

No it doesn't.

Contango

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Fromthe419

What I find amazing is the amount of anti-Obama articles coming out in newspapers (not just the SR) the past two weeks. Memo to future Presidents, do not investigate the AP or other journalists, they will do the same to you. For five years Obama enjoyed and largely got a free pass from mainstream media, it seems to me that he is declaring war on the very people that helped put him in office. He better watch his P's and Q's or they'll keep digging and we'll be calling him former President Obama (not sayin' I'll have a problem with that).

Contango

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The Big Dog's back

So we should be afraid of the Press now?

Contango

Re: "So we should be afraid of the Press now?"

^^^ “I was thinking more like a registered maroon.” - The Big Dog's back, 6/2/13

Fromthe419

No, we shouldn't be afraid, but he should. If you attack the very people that helped put you in office and your administration continues to mislead Congress, illegally targets your political opponents, and uses the NSA to spy on your citizens. Who is the new head of the NSA? Susan (it was a spontaneous protest) Rice. Do you really trust her to head this very powerful organization? As I said in an earlier post, what type of government do we want? It seems we have two choices, one the protects our liberty and freedom or the nanny/saviour state that protects us from ourselves.

Contango

LOL.

Happened to catch a bit of Bill Maher's show last night.

He said that he was OK with all the NSA stuff under a Pres. Obama, but that he worried about it under a Pres. Ted Cruz.

Mr. Fascist should know that Sen. Cruz was born in Canada and that a run for POTUS would be highly contentious if not unlikely.

PLUS, the useful idiot was OK with collecting DNA from EVERYONE who is arrested!!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e...

coasterfan: You respect the ideas of this fascist???

bondgirlM

Maher's an idiot

Maggdi

HEH!

I like the cut of your jib BondgirlM! ...'when a few words will do'...

The Big Dog's back

Bill Maher is a Libertarian. Aren't you a libertarian pooh bag?

Contango

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Contango

Pres. Obama: "Nobody’s listening to your phone calls,"

And "nobody" is looking at your credit card transactions OR most IRS returns either.

They're called COMPUTERS. They use algorithms to sift through the data.

See, he didn't LIE; perusal, he just MISSPOKE. :)

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Whatdoyasay that we mix up a nice big pitcher of ice-cold Obama brand flavored Kool-aid, kick back and listen to some Bobby McFerrin?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y...

The Big Dog's back

Into repeating already this morning ehh? A A.

Contango

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shucks

This is " Binge Week" for Contango

Contango

^^^ “He's gotten nuttier.” – 4shizzle, 6/5/13 :)

The Big Dog's back

One Bourbon, One Scotch, one Beer. A A.

Contango

Get ready for the newest Obama apologist.

Samantha Powers, Pres. Obama's nominee for UN Ambassador:

"Why do they hate us?"

"This resentment may be incurable. But much anti- Americanism derives from the role U.S. political, economic, and military power has played in denying such freedoms to others."

"U.S. foreign policy has to be rethought. It needs not tweaking but overhauling. We need: a historical reckoning with crimes committed, sponsored, or permitted by the United States."

http://www.newrepublic.com/artic...

(She thought the U.S. bombing of Libya was OK!)

The New World Czar

Re: NSA, IRS, etc.- this isn't a left vs. right issue anymore. More like a "They The Federal Government" vs. "We The People" to create the ultimate Nanny State.

swiss cheese kat

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swiss cheese kat

Question for big pup. Why do Democrats Love To Spy On Americans? As you are a rabid "Obamabot", I thought you might have an answer instead of some witty comeback.

shucks

Really?
Check the track record of the Republicans on spying.
There's Watergate and Bush's Patriot Act to start with.

Fromthe419

There's also Obama's extended Patriot Act, the IRS scandal and the NDAA. They both spy on us and it d%mn wrong of both of them.

Fromthe419

Oh, and no I'm not a drinker, I prefer lemonaide :)

coasterfan

You can always spot an ultra-conservative at 50 paces. They think that everyone who doesn't share their narrow minority viewpoint is a Communist, Nazi, Fascist, Socialist and/or anti-American. NEver mind that they would be hard-pressed to tell you the difference between the above.

My point is that you are all blaming Obama for this, while ignoring the GOP Elephant in the Room: your party applauded The Patriot Act when it was enacted, which did a 180 on more than 200 years of how our country regarded the 4th Amendment. And furthermore, PRISM began under the Bush presidency. PRISM Is a policy sanctioned by both parties.

Five years ago I would have decried it as unnecessary intrusion. Then came lone nuts like the Boston bombers, and the several incidents where bomb plots have been foiled. Suddenly, it doesn't seem like such a bad idea to use technology to help foil terrorist attacks within our borders. Republicans, of course, would gripe if an attack happened that we weren't able to prevent. You can't have it both ways...

At the end of the day, if you are a law-abiding citizen, you have no reason to think that the government would be reading your email. There are 300 million of us, for gosh sakes. If you actually think the gov't cares about your latest Facebook post (I.'m having dinner at Five Guys,"), you have a grossly overinflated sense of self. Why not choose something REAL to worry about, like getting enough exercise, and eating properly - something that actually affects your life?

Contango

Re: "Everyone who doesn't share their narrow minority viewpoint is a Communist, Nazi, Fascist, Socialist and/or anti-American.

NEver mind that they would be hard-pressed to tell you the difference(s) between (among) the above."

EASY - Boiled down to its essence, it has to do with the means of production.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mea...

Socialism/Communism (Marx & Engles used the terms synonymously):

The STATE owns & controls the means of production.

Fascism: The State owns and controls some of the means of production and that which it doesn’t it heavily regulates.

Free-Market Capitalism: The ownership and means of production lies in the hands of individuals.

@ coasterfan: So you admire and share the views of Bill Maher the fascist?

I've asked you SEVERAL times: So with which of the Ten Planks of the Communist Manifesto do you disagree?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The...

The Big Dog's back

Wrong again poo.

goofus

prove he was wrong

Maggdi

Um, they didn't stop those punks. And as to the one(s) they supposedly stopped using this technology, you again have no idea what you're talking about. Najibullah Zazi was stopped by regular law enforcement tactics. Just like the Pacific Airlines bomber (pre 9/11 bty), the New Year's bomber and others. Our liberties should not be bought with impossible promises of security. The harm that can be done to individuals by other individuals with that kind of power for the offense of disagreement is chilling. But I suppose as long as you're not the one having to defend yourself; No blood no foul. But don't get comfy, someone who disagrees with you may get that power and use it against you. And just to let you know I may disagree with what you're saying but I'll fight for your right to say it.

"RESCIND THE PATRIOT ACT"
It's been an abomination since it's inception.

Maggdi

****crickets****

shucks

Well said, Coaster

Contango

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shucks

"This is " Binge Week" for Contango".– 4shizzle, 6/8/13

Contango

^^^“Talking to your self I see.” – 4shizzle, 6/6/13 :)

shucks

Clowntango

Contango

Re: "Clowntango"

^^^ "You taunt like the immature person you are." - 4shizzle, 6/4/13 :)

shucks

"geetar play'r "?
"We're trying to communicate with an illiterate socialist – NOT SURPRISED. :)"

Contango- Thu, 06/06/2013 - 2:43pm

Contango

^^^“My ‘poetic license’ was just too much for you. – 4 shizzle, 6/4/13 :)

shucks

I've got better things to do than bicker with you.
Bye cupcake.

Contango

^^^“Later Satan's channel.” – 4shizzle, 6/5/13 :)

shucks

Ha ha !

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Mime Bloggling

It's like watching a ping pong game....with wonderfully executed serves by Contango only to be followed by 4shizzle's corkspins into the net.

shucks

"...with wonderfully executed serves by Contango ..."??!!

You must drink a lot too.

shucks

PS
-Mime Bloggling,
So, his bullsh!t just hypnotizes you, huh?

The Big Dog's back

winnie, step away from the bottle.

dorothy gale

The Bush administration misled the country by lying us into a war, and the Republicans in Congress today mislead us every time they open their lying pie-holes! So suck it up and deal with it.

anthras

I do not think that Bush and the republicans were the only persons wrong about the WMD's If he was in fact lying then so were the democrats listed below and I could have continued to fill a whole page with the quotes or as you say lies

"One way or the other, we are determined to deny Iraq the capacity to develop weapons of mass destruction and the missiles to deliver them. That is our bottom line."
President Clinton, Feb. 4, 1998

Iraq is a long way from [here], but what happens there matters a great deal here. For the risks that the leaders of a rogue state will use nuclear, chemical or biological weapons against us or our allies is the greatest security threat we face." — Madeline Albright, Feb 18, 1998

"He will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he has ten times since 1983." — Sandy Berger, Clinton National Security Adviser, Feb 18, 1998

"Hussein has chosen to spend his money on building weapons of mass destruction and palaces for his cronies." — Madeline Albright, Clinton Secretary of State, Nov. 10, 1999

"We know that he has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country." — Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002

We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and developing weapons of mass destruction." — Sen. Ted Kennedy (D, MA), Sept. 27, 2002

"It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein wiill continue to increase his capability to wage biological and chemical warfare and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons. Should he succeed in that endeavor, he could alter the political and security landscape of the Middle East which, as we know all too well, affects American security."
Sen. Hillary Clinton (D, NY), Oct 10, 2002

There is unmistakable evidence that Saddam Hussein is working aggressively to develop nuclear weapons and will likely have nuclear weapons within the next five years .. We also should remember we have always underestimated the progress Saddam has made in development of weapons of mass destruction." — Sen. Jay Rockefeller (D, WV), Oct 10, 2002

shucks

anthras-
It's a FACT that the Bush administration LIED and DECIEVED everybody, move on.

Contango

Re: "It's a FACT that the Bush administration LIED and DECIEVED everybody, move on."

"DECIEVED"?

It's a more obvious FACT that you can't spell. :)

shucks

You are a petty little person, Clowntango.

Maggdi

Triple dog dare you....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?fea... ...

The Big Dog's back

You really do watch Fox news.

Maggdi

What?
It seems I'm too stupid to understand your point as it relates to the link.
As it was simply a link to one of Obama's campaign speeches.

arnmcrmn

Obamabots just do not get it. They would defend this turd at all costs. Comical.

Contango

coasterfan writes:

"Suddenly, it doesn't seem like such a bad idea to use technology to help foil terrorist attacks within our borders."

And the Admin. gets to define the term "terrorist." :)

The refrain of fools throughout History: THIS TIME - IT'S DIFFERENT.

“In the end, more than freedom, they wanted security. They wanted a comfortable life, and they lost it all – security, comfort, and freedom.

When the Athenians finally wanted not to give to society but for society to give to them, when the freedom they wished for most was freedom from responsibility, then Athens ceased to be free and was never free again.”

― Edward Gibbon

Contango

"Obama Administration To Open Criminal Investigation Into NSA Spying Leaks":

"The investigation would likely focus on The Washington Post and The Guardian,"

Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/o...

So, after telling us that "domestic spying is good for you," and that "everyone in Congress knew," Dear Leader is targeting those who let "We the People" know that we were secretly being spied upon for phone records, credit cards and emails.

IOW: If everyone in Congress knew, how can there be leakers????

REAL DUMB for Pres. "I won!" to go after the news media - REAL DUMB.

Contango

"Glenn Greenwald Breaks ANOTHER NSA Story":

http://www.businessinsider.com/g...

It's too d*mn bad that ya often gotta go to RT, Al-Jazeera, The Guardian and other foreign media outlets to get the TRUTH and/or the FACTS.

Obviously in the Bizzaro world of Pres. Obama and his lil' pet Obamabots, ignorance is bliss: Be sure to listen to Bill Maher, MSNBC, NPR and the Comedy Channel in order to stay properly indoctrinated.

Contango

Sen. Ron Wyden, D.-Ore.: “Does the NSA collect any type of data at all on millions or hundreds of millions of Americans?”

James Clapper, the director of national intelligence:

“Not wittingly. There are cases where they could, inadvertently perhaps collect-but not wittingly.”

"NOT WITTINGLY"?

http://openchannel.nbcnews.com/_...

And SWAT and DEA teams NEVER hit the wrong house do they?

Woody Hayes

Contango,
Does your family laugh and your dog growls when you walk into a room? Just wondering.

Contango

^^ "Does your family laugh and your dog growls (sp) when you walk into a room? Just wondering." :-7

The Big Dog's back

Yes they do, yes they do. ROFLMAO.

deertracker

I think it's the other way around!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Contango

Ever heard of Elliot Spitzer?

The Patriot Act ordered banks to report anything suspicious. What about those checks to a hooker? OOPS!

Bah-bye Elliot!

"Somebody" wanted you GONE.

http://armstrongeconomics.com/20...

KURTje

A certain poster has always whined about so many topics. Said poster is old and never knew job loss (economy of the 50;s). Said poster is 1 of many reasons America is in trouble now. So self-centered & bitter - whada quitter. rhymes... Not to mention how many failed marriages? Folks if you can't stay married how much more on relations outside of your abode? geezz

TboneWalkerJr

Geezz, Paranoid much?

shucks

kURTje -How many marriages?

Contango

Pres. Obama, 6/7/13:

"If people can't trust not only the executive branch but also don't trust Congress and don't trust federal judges to make sure that we're abiding by the Constitution, due process,and rule of law, then we're going to have some problems here,"

No sh*t!

TboneWalkerJr

NONE OF THIS MATTERS !!! to the OBAMA BASE that is, which includes 99% of BLACKS and a large number of liberal whites who consider themselves BLACK ON THE INSIDE

OBAMA SUPPORT HAS NEVER AND WILL NEVER DROP BELOW 49% because the WHITE-HATING RACISTS WHO ELECTED HIM ONLY CARE ABOUT HIS NON-WHITE SKIN COLOR (OK, HALF NON-white)

IF Obama announced his intent to REPEAL THE 13th AMENDMENT to the US Constitution, BLACKS and LIBERALS would STILL SUPPORT HIM 100%

If Obama announced a national MILITARY DRAFT of ONLY BLACK MALES, his support among blacks and liberals would remain unchanged

Come to think of it, those would be GREAT MOVES for him. Not only would he keep his entire base constituency, he would also get 90% of the REpublicans,

he would have enough support to repeal the 2-term limit for presidents

deertracker

Would someone PLEASE throw TBone a bone then call the dog catcher?

Contango

Re: "Would someone PLEASE throw TBone a bone then call the dog catcher?"

Ignorant of the Blues eh?

“The Blues is the truth. If it’s not the truth, it’s not the Blues.”

- Willie Dixon

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h...

OMG.LOL.WT_

We survived Bush. You will survive Obama.
https://www.facebook.com/WSBYSO

The Big Dog's back

My sentiments exactly.

Contango

Re: "You will survive Obama."

Gotta think longer term.

According to Bill Maher, he's worried about a Pres. Ted Cruz.

"Road to Serfdom": The 'best intentioned' legislation will ultimately be misused.

BTW: Not heavily mentioned in the media on Fri.; NEW record number of households on food stamps. GO 'BAMA!

http://dailycaller.com/2013/06/0...

Contango

Pres. Obama, June 7, 2013: "I welcome this debate."

Edward Snowden, the former NSA employee said that he wanted to start the debate.

There ya go!

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Pres. Obama, June 7, 2013:

"So in summary, what you've got is two programs that were originally authorized by Congress, have been repeatedly authorized by Congress, bipartisan majorities have approved on them, Congress is continually briefed on how these are conducted."

So EVERYONE in Congress knew, but NOBODY knew the scope of the programs until Mr. Snowden exposed them to The Guardian?

http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-pr...

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commen...

So how are the "Fast & Furious," the DOJ/AP, the Benghazi and the IRS Congressional "briefings" goin'?

FULL cooperation Mr. President?

The Big Dog's back

So now you are defending a man (Snowden) who committed treason pooh?

Contango

@ Kool-aid drinking, "Don't Worry, Be Happy," Obamabots:

Here's what your HERO Paul Krugman had to say:

http://dailycaller.com/2013/06/0...

arnmcrmn

Ohio Dept. Of Insurance: Obamacare To Increase Individual-Market Health Premiums By 88 Percent.

Thanks Obama!!!!!!!!!!!!!

http://www.forbes.com/sites/thea...

KURTje

You lose - pay up.

arnmcrmn

Here is your LIAR N CHIEF. ENJOY PUKING ON HIS TWO FACED LIES!!!!!!!

Video You Won’t See in Media: Senator Obama Debates President Obama on Surveillance

Read more: http://newsbusters.org/blogs/mat...

Minuteman

All our personal info is being used for more than anti-terrorism, it is used to see how we will vote, and who is on "the other side", etc. As with other entities that harvest our info and see what we are looking at online, it's used to sell us something. There's a whole industry devoted to analyzing our info and making it work for whatever they choose. They will now show us how the whistle blower should take the blame, by using our data reaped from the internet. He'll be the villain and the gov't can continue as if nothing happened, and even better, the public will support more intrusion. No need for a search warrant.

Minuteman

Next week's scandal will make this one insignificant. Benghazi was years ago wasn't it?

The Big Dog's back

I suppose when there are no scandals the Repubs need to create one.

Contango

^^^ “Another insightful comment by bonehead.” - the Big Dog’s back, 6/5/13 :-7

Contango

The NSA has access to ordinary Americans' credit card ,cell phones and emails records but the STATE can't use this data in order to find the 11 million or more "illegals" that 'may' be terrorists?

arnmcrmn

Video You Won’t See in Media: Senator Obama Debates President Obama on Surveillance

Read more: http://newsbusters.org/blogs/mat...