NRA: Don't read this

Matt Westerhold
Dec 23, 2012

But most people cannot look away. They can only watch and grieve for those families, for those parents whose lives will never again be normal.

For now this tragedy is embedded in the American consciousness. For now. Perhaps the images of those beautiful children and courageous educators will stay embedded and we won't forget. And as a nation, maybe, just maybe, there will be forward movement that begins to address this persistent problem; this persistent debate.

The National Rifle Association weighed in on Friday, suggesting the solution to the epidemic of mass shootings should be addressed by placing armed guards at every school door. If it's a war you want, it's a war the NRA is willing to back.

The founding of the nation came from the end of a musket, and the fascination with weapons is natural and has grown. There is little need to regulate the very clear right of law-abiding citizens to own weapons. Yet there is still a need.

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Most people would agree that private individuals should not be allowed to develop their own arsenal of nuclear weapons. By way of the NRA's logic in it's support of semi-automatic weapons and 60-round magazine ammunition, that's a violation of the Second Amendment.

Comments

Randy_Marsh

So you disagree with your namesake? Or are you only disagreeing because the NRA reintroduced it?

The Big Dog's back

It doesn't work, I disagree with it. I don't want our schools becoming prisons just so some gun nuts can have assault weapons and 30 round clips. And where do criminals get these guns? Oh yeah, they steal them from the people who do have them. Imagine that.

Dr. Information

So what do you want people to do about people stealing others guns? Oh thats right, there are already laws against theft.

The Big Dog's back

What happened to your armed homeowner defense? They steal them from armed homeowners. Ban on assault weapons, no assault weapons to steal.

Randy_Marsh

@Big dog
You do realize the system is already flooded with weapons and the ban just stops the sales? They do not make the weapons illegal to own at all.

dontcare

I would do away with the theft laws, The constitution says we have the right to the pursuit of happiness. If taking his mother's gun and shooting her makes him happy, that is his constitutional right. For you Dr. Information I feel the need to explain that this is what's called "sarcasm". Google that with your next quote.

4shizzle

ouch !

dontcare

Clinton proposed school resource officers, not with the specific intent to be armed guards.

Randy_Marsh

@Big Dog
"the only way to stop a bad guy with a gun is to have a good guy with a gun" If this is not true, Do not call the police if somthing bad is happening to you. They are good guys and if the bad guy has a gun they are worthless, Right? You should be used to playing the victim so just suck it up.

The Big Dog's back

Martial arts, tasers, knives, crossbow, ballbat, 2x4, .....

Randy_Marsh

You miss the entire point of the second amendment dont you?
A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.
Notice "The security of a free state"? It means we are armed to prevent your types from overturning the constitution and making a god-king out of your politician of the month.
The founding fathers saw your types back then too, They were called tories and wanted to keep the king because they had no need of rights and freedom from a overbearing dictator. That is why we have the second amendment, To protect us from the stupidity of the clueless giving away our rights and allowing our Republic to fall.

dontcare

Can't you get it though your head that was 250 years ago. We were a British colony. There was a revolution to break away from the English fought not only by the military but by citizen soldiers. We are no longer a British Colony, If you want to play army, join the army. People like you who dream of overthrowing the government are the very ones who should not own a gun.

Randy_Marsh

It is a constitutional right to own a weapon, What can't you see about that? 250 years ago or today the writers of the constitution saw you people comming and make it so the rest of us sane individuals could protect ourself from your dictates and stupidity if it got out of hand.

Dr. Information

Cant argue with the left even when its in the constitution. I think the 1st amendment should be done away with so @dontcare can STHU!

dontcare

The 13th amdenment to stop slavery, the 19th amendment gave women the right to vote, neither were in the orginal document. The constitution should evolve with the times or at least be reinterpreted to reflect the changing society. No one wants to take away your bunker, gas mask, or other survivalist gear you're going to need when the government starts their unbearable oppression and you have to start up the revelotuion with your non-military weapons. Please don't shoot me.

4shizzle

NRA = Not Rational Americans

puddin95

How would making guns illegal help? Nobody can stop drugs among many other things.

Just Thinkin

Selling news, Isn't that what this is all about,The media may not have murdered those kids, but be honest they all are glad it happened really look how intense they are milking it, Why to make money from it. otherwise they would refrain from the onslaught of repeating the same crap, they will when the public gets tired of this and something more interesting happens, You all know it's the truth, By the way Merry CHRISTmas, and Happy New Year

Nor'easter

Westerhold missed the root of the problem completely.
The HIPPA privacy law forbids health professional from disclosing medical information about patients (even to the patient's spouse or parent) unless the patient has given written permission approving the release of information. Once again, our bumbling government and its over reactions to perceived problems has created another nightmare scenario. Only after the mentally ill person has caused mayhem, is any professional permitted to take action. This same issue was one of the causes of Columbine, Virginia Tech and nearly all these mass killings except for 9/11. The cause of that was government forbidding communication between the CIA & FBI. We clearly need to replace our legislators with someone with basic common sense.

Centauri

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l...

12 Shots In Under 3 Seconds with a six shot revolver. Who will call this a full auto assault weapon?

Whiskey Tango F...

Anwser this question honestly and you will solve the issue. When a shooting occurs, what is the immediate first response??? Call 911 and ask for police to come right? What if a few trained cops were already there? Maybe even able to act before the shooter turns the gun on himself? No one is saying this is a permanent solution, but it is an immedate attempt to do something other than pass laws that we don't have resources to enforce. fighting about individual weapons and accessories is fine but we have not made it any safer for our greatest resource.... our children.

luvblues2

Anti-gun brickheads lose this round. Sorry 'bout your luck.

Informer

I am a privatized security officer certified through the state of ohio, and would have no problem standing guard at my child's school. I would do it for free if they would allow me too. Most of my job is deterrence, if you see me, you will think twice before doing what you were planning on doing. If it wasent effective, I would not have a job...and we are doing pretty well in such a down economy. We all know some people choose not to obey the law, and we all know the national average response time for emergency personnel is 20 minutes. It dosent matter what kind of weapon you use, you can kill many people in 20 minutes. Having an armed guard in every school would work as a deterrent, and if catastrophe were to happen they would serve as a quick reactive solution. If we were to become more proactive in protecting ourselves from those who chose to break the law, we wouldent spend so much time being reactive. Think of it as the deadbolt on your door, or the lock in your car. If you dont secure your car, the only person you can be mad at is yourself when you come out the next morning to find that someone has been through your things. Now someone may break into your car, but that takes time and allot more effort. More than the usual criminal is willing to make, Same thing with armed guards... there's always going to be a potential for this to happen, but with deterrence and proactive thinking, it is my belief these acts of crime will diminish severely.

2cents

(Most of my job is deterrence,)
The paddle on the wall by the classroom door in grade school did this as well. Unfortunately the progressive left do not consider this form of punishment a deterrent and let some kids run the show!

Informer

Which also might be part of the problem...although I havent done any research to support the fact, statistically anyway. Although im sure we could say its evident.

sanduskysteve

That, was the fault of the ACLU and the courts that created that issue - NOT necessarily the "left" as a whole.

luvblues2

You are a facsimile of law enforcement. You are a target waiting to be shot. Don't kid yourself.

Informer

I would rather it be me, than an innocent child. Or I could deter an assailant long enough so others could move to a safer location. Your right, I gain more attention, which I tend to use to my advantage. In turn it could potentially save more lives. We might not be able to save them all but we should at least try.

The Big Dog's back

Didn't work at Columbine.

Informer

A Jefferson County Sheriff’s Deputy, Neil Gardner, was assigned to the high school as a uniformed and armed school resource officer. At the time of the shooting, Gardner was on his lunch break in his patrol car. He was just northwest of the school, watching students in the "Smokers’ Pit" in Clement Park. Around 11:23, the custodian radioed him, requesting assistance in the "back lot". While on his way, Gardner heard on his radio that a female was down. While leaving the car, he heard in another call, "Neil, there’s a shooter in the school".Harris immediately fired at Gardner, who was wearing a distinctive yellow uniform, as he exited the vehicle.Gardner returned fire at Harris and Klebold, distracting them from the injured Brian Anderson.(Anderson escaped to the library and hid inside an open staff break room.) Harris fired a total of ten shots at the officer, who reported a Code 33 (officer in need of emergency assistance) to his colleagues~ taken from wikipidia. You cant be everywhere at once, But he did save Brian Andersons life. Thats enough for me.

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