Public has a right to know

Matt Westerhold
Mar 23, 2010

 

Dear Mr. Murray:

Below please find a comment posted this morning at sanduskyregister.com. This is just one among several "leaked" allegations I've heard previously about my alleged nefarious involvement in Nuesse-gate.

So let's see, we at the Register secretly tape-recorded conversations, according to commissioner Julie Farrar, and we also secretly listened in on private conversations over a speakerphone. Is that your experience of how we do business? Seems to me you could have dismissed both assertions the moment they were made.

Are these the types of allegations you and fellow commissioners approved for inclusion in the integrity probe? Was there a truth here that taxpayers (the CLIENT) needed to have uncovered? Or was the agenda to obsfucate the truth with as many spurious allegations as possible? How much mud will be thrown up against the wall before we know what will stick?

The entire Murman report, with any and all audio or video digital recordings or tapes that were made, any notes and all other materials should be immediately made available to the client. Every scrap of paper, including the Kleenex upon which Mr. Murman blew his nose, needs to be made public. Transparency is transparency. City officials are either being transparent or they are not. Any partial report that has been delivered to the city also should be made immediately available to the public. The balance of any report can be given to the public when attorney Michael Murman returns later

this month from his vacation.� 

The Register has made this request in an effort to give your constituents (the CLIENT) all available information with regards to this serious matter. I hope you and your fellow commissioners support this request. Withholding this information from the public based on an attorney-client privilege seems

to fly in the face of the transparency to which you have so often referred.

I apologize if I am being a little testy today, and I mean no disrespect. I likely am almost as tired of this story as you and your fellow commissioners are. I've also included a second posting that was made this morning on the Elsebeth Baumgardner goes to prison story that helped snarl my mood.

Sincerely,

Matt Westerhold

The truth please..... on 05/11/2008 08:25:58 said:

"Matt, Answer the community this: The night this mess started wern't you at the Police Chief's house, listening on speaker phone as she called all the commissioners without them knowing you were listening? If you have an ounce of honesty left Matt, answer this truthfully."

Elsebeth goes to prison

now on 05/11/2008 08:00:00 said:

"Now if we can just get Westerhold in the same position we can finally be rid of the delusional community crackpots who get waaaay to much attention for their paranoid Oliver Stone conspiracy theories and Erie County can be a quiet community again. ---Conspirator# 43"

cc: Commissioners Dave Waddington, Julie Farrar, Brett Fuqua, Craig Stahl,

Dan Kaman, Brian Crandall

Comments

Anonymous

Every time I think that this mess can't get much worse, it does. May I ask why would the SR post people's IP address? THAT is unbelieveable to me.

Anonymous

When you put up an open forum for anyone to write anything, regardless of whether or not it is true, and without requiring them to sign their name, don't start crying when you don't like what is said. This forum is nothing more than a bathroom wall, and unfortunately Matt, its your guilty pleasure.

Anonymous

Matt you seem to want all these answers, yet you have yet to answer any of ours...or are you "Not taking questions" like at the "Town Hall" meeting? Since when is it the job of the local newspaper to pick sides when it comes to this stuff? As I said yesterday, arent you supposed to be un biased, ESPECIALLY on matters that you have no idea about. You have ONLY heard Kim's side, because for some reason the City Manager and Commissioners, dont think you are a priority. So they are going to do this investigation right, so they can send her packing like she deserves. Whats sad is the front page of the LORAIN JOURNAL showed a picture of Ret. Ofc. Ronald Susana and Capt. Paul Sigsworth in front of the Police Officers Memorial in SANDUSKY, yet the Sandusky Register is continually bashing law enforcement. This is like the community downing the entire staff of the SR for your sadistic views. You say you are getting tired of this story like the rest of us, yet YOU write about it everyday. It is also funny that have yet to deny being at Kim's house the day this story broke, the only thing you have denied, is recording it. I wish you would start answering the questions of your "clients" instead of dodging them. Every story you write about this subject gives us the opportunity to bash you, like you bash everyone else...

Anonymous

Matt would you do EVERYONE a favor and just move on to another city. How do you sleep at night knowing you are dividing a city in half, by reporting on stuff you have no idea about. Had Kim not run to the NewsPaper with this, it would have been handled discreetly. She went to you guys because she wanted to make a circus out of this and she knew you would help her. Now you have NO idea what she is being accused of yet, you are defending her. What kind of sense does that make foe a newspaper editor?? I mean does this further your career? When Mel Burns was going through this, nothing close to this was done. However, because she is a woman and you knew you could get a lot of public support, you took this and ran with it. Then you start blaming the city manager and commissioners for dragging her through the mud? Last time I checked the SR is not owned by the city. Once all this comes out and she is let go and everyone knows what this woman did, I will be demanding that you apologize on here!!!! Trust me Matt, I am not the ONLY One who feels this way. You and these so called ministers who have decided to back a woman who has done some pretty bad things.....wow....she must have SOME influence. I would just really like to know what you could possibly gain by turning your back on the city government. As my heading states, this city deserves better than you Matt, they deserves someone who is going to report the news without bias...

Anonymous

Re; Sandusky Deserves Better
You want to slam Matt because he supposedly, in your mind, is slanted towards Nuesse, you make claims about "and everyone knows what this woman did" and "a woman who has done some pretty bad things", but would you please make a list for us as to what she has done so bad. You must have seen the report that everyone is waiting to see so please enlighten us.

Anonymous

Keep up the good work. You are doing more for this city than any commissioner has ever done. Please keep us informed and keep the pressure on them. Thank you Matt for your dedication and for finding out the truth. Sue them if they don't make the documents public. You have my 100% full support!

Anonymous

Where did the SR publish someone's IP address? I don't see that anywhere.

Anonymous

If a report was available on Friday, why is it already Monday evening an no report has been delieved to the newspaper to share with all taxpayers and voters? The only conclusion that can be drawn is that the city commissioners are hiding something from the voters.....but why? It seems that the only force in the city serving the taxpayers and voters is the newspaper and the challenges it presents to the city commissioners.

Anonymous

You people are all just jealous because Matt is a hottie. Leave him alone. He is doing a great job. AND he is cute!

Anonymous

Murray and Farrar are in my opinion, jealous that Matt doesn't sport a mullet at they do.

Anonymous

Matt, when the report comes out and you find out who made these claims against you, will you feel the same way? I will be watching. I think you may be surprised who made these claims against you. Please, go on the record that these are all lies. Then when the report comes out, I want to see if you call this person a liar.

Anonymous

Well said Matt.Really what do you have to gain from playing favorites?It is refreshing to see someone stand up to these miscreant's.Justice need's to be carried out swiftly.It's laughable that people think you just want to sell paper's.It show's how shallow the thinking is out there.How about contacting U.S.Attorney General's office i'am sure they can get to bottom of this blatant disregard for transparency.

Anonymous

Yes. The comments in the above article were published with their IP addresses. After WOW @ 5:57 commented the addresses were removed. The edit on this post is mine
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Sincerely,

Matt Westerhold

The truth please..... on 05/11/2008 08:25:58 said:

"Matt, Answer the community this: The night this mess started wern't you at the Police Chief's house, listening on speaker phone as she called all the commissioners without them knowing you were listening? If you have an ounce of honesty left Matt, answer this truthfully." (from IP: 72.xxx.xxx.xx
Source - Edit)

Elsebeth goes to prison

now on 05/11/2008 08:00:00 said:

"Now if we can just get Westerhold in the same position we can finally be rid of the delusional community crackpots who get waaaay to much attention for their paranoid Oliver Stone conspiracy theories and Erie County can be a quiet community again. ---Conspirator# 43" (from IP: 24.xxx.xxx.xx Source -

Anonymous

Chicken Butt.

Anonymous

...That's it.

I'd also like to add...where is Bob Runner? Pay him whatever he demands and let him re-take the helm of the SPD. Enough of this stupid circus.

NineMM

RE: Re Westerhold Bashers........CUTE! He looks like a young Rodney Dangerfield or a young Jackie Gleason at best.

Anonymous

How about taking a lie detector test to prove Julie wrong?

Anonymous

Obsfucate?

What the heck is that? Put your thesaurus away, sir. If you can’t spell it, it’s likely you don’t really know the meaning, moron. Again, you put yourself in the middle of this story. It’s been said that it is better to remain quiet and have people think you’re an idiot than to speak and prove it. Keep talking Matt. Eventually Doug Phares will get sick of the embarrassment.

Anonymous

@ RE: WOW
I don't know what happened to them. They were here when I first read the story. They were at the end of each blog that he printed....HMMMM....

Anonymous

HOTTIE? CUTE? WHOOOOOOOOA!

Anonymous

Commissioners said they haven't even seen Murman's report yet and there was no executive session announced for tonight to have Kline discuss Murman's partial report with the commissioners. This whole thing is really odd. Matt, it will be years before you can crack open Murman's report. The commission said it would be two to three years before Nuesee's situation is resolved because she can appeal. I wasn't too far off saying that this situation could go on until the November election. Murray will already be in his State position before any of this goes down of who did what.

Anonymous

After reading, it may seem I think you didn't spell the word correctly. I was actually pointing out you couldn't spell it with a dictionary, thesaurus and a couple editors typing it for you.

Anonymous

Public has a right to know
Public has a right to know
Public has a right to know
Public has a right to know
Public has a right to know
How about the news about those Perkins teachers and insurance fraud. We want to know.

Anonymous

Let's start off by stating that I have the up most respect for the IMA, but are they qualified to perform an internal investigation when you have a lawyer as a city commissioner? The handwriting is on the wall as to why Murray is for the investigation from IMA, as it will keep them busy from their original agenda of recalling Murray, Stahl, and Crandall. By keeping the IMA busy also leaves Murray more of a time frame to acquire Redferns job as state representative when he steps down. We as citizens of Sandusky have seen over the last few months how the unqualified commissioners try to micro manage the city. Remember a few months ago when the commissioners wanted the citizens to pay $2.50 a month extra so the electric bill could be paid at the city building? Yet they continue to spend money like it's growing on trees.
Assistant for city manager, $60,000 plus for investigations on police chief, and mis handling funds on the housing project, tax breaks for Cedar Point, by the way are set up for NEW SMALL BUSINESS OWNERS! Law directors that are paid well, yet always seek outside legal help, and from the same legal firm, Murman and associates. Another is the Marina Distric, the citizens were never shown actual drawings of those monstrous condos before voting, but we were supposed to. Just another example of an attorney commissioner running the city on his own all for $125.00 a week! Read between the lines IMA, do what you originally intended to do. Start by the three that are in question and continue on down the line. I see that Waddington, and Fuqua finally decided to voice what they call an opinion, since they know deep down what is going on in the city government but have sit back on the fence post not wanting to pi$$ of Murray and Stahl. We have identified that Sandusky does indeed have a cancer, IMA will be the first treatment to start Sandusky on her way back to recovery and continue until the cancer is totally removed from the city so we as a community can prosper and be proud of our once beautiful city without the help of certain waterfront owners that have ethic issues but are being suppressed until their new political office is ready for them in the state!! "

Anonymous

it started out as a conversation at the fire station with yes or no answers.. it evolved into an "investigaton" which has transformed itself into a "criminal investigation." in the beginning don icsman was in the room with all the players. please note that now, he is no where to be seen nor heard. also note that the word "criminal" has been attached so that chief nuesse has no civil recoarse in this matter. d. icsman made that mistake in the mulvin "whisper campaign" a few years ago and the taxpayer got burned in district court by a large civil settlement to mr. mulvin. like hyman roth in the "godfather" icsman played this one perfect.

Anonymous

The elected officials don't seem to realize that one of the real responsibilities and freedoms of the press in this country are to DEMAND that those issues important to the public are disclosed in a timely manner and not covered up as seems to be the intent of some of the Commissioners who likely influenced the actions of Mr. Kline. What bothers me the most is that they think we are STUPID enogh to buy their story and Mr. Murry's quick endoresement of the IMA investigation seems like an attempt to cover his butt. I was truly in favor of Mr. Murray's run for higher office, but now I beleive that he is not the type of person I want representing me. nor do I think he even deserves the power that he currently has and seems to use without regard to those who receive injury from the bloody sword that he wields with such enthusiasm. Anyone who holds public office and thinks that THE PUBLIC HAS NO RIGHT TO KNOW, or that their knowledge of public affairs should be restrained IN ANY WAY, needs to go and should be barred from ANY public office or trust! That simple.

Anonymous

Let's put a few of my friends on the investigation team.

Anonymous

Whatever happens in Vegas stays in Vegas right?

Anonymous

Why put in peoples email addresses?

Anonymous

With all the people in Sandusky, why do we always elect these lying losers to the city commission. There's got to be better people to run out there.

Anonymous

Matt, Nice cheap shot with the IP address, but would'nt expect much more from you. You ranted and whinned but never answered the question did you, a sure sign of guilt, dodging the question. You do remember that night when you listened in on the converstations don't you!? If you you don't remember ask the same person who has told several others, you know who....You were sitting in their house...remember...

Anonymous

why not? they are city officials, with city email addresses. Is there are problem? they should be available to the public upon request anyway, right?
as Homer would say...doh!!

Anonymous

@ RE WHY E-MAIL ADDY'S
Oh yea? Who says they were blogs from city officials? You? Who are you? I would think it wouldn't matter who they were, I wouldn't think that Matt should publish ANYONE'S IP address.

Anonymous

Who cares about IP addresses, they don't mean diddly squat. Get real. You people are clueless about the internet. Your name, phone number and address in the phone book provide more info than your IP.

Duh!

Anonymous

Time for the SR to file an open records request off all e-mails, text messages or any other digital form messages from January 1st to the present that were sent over the city computer or digital equipment and/or private personal computer or anyother digital equipment from each and every city commissioner, Kline, Icsman, and Windman. The SR will then have all electronic messages pertaining to anything related to any city business or interest. That way the SR can sort out any and all connections in those e-mails to determine the history of communications regarding the police chief issues, the dispatch fiasco, the current Murman investiagation, the February inquisition meeting at the firehouse and anything that transpired so that the commission could vote 7-0 to vote for the IMA investigation and so on and so on. It is a common practice for the newspapers in other towns to solicit broad open records requests of public officials e-mails or text messages. Get in touch with your legal counsel and file the open records request of all digital messatges followed by a court order if necessary to compell city compliance with your request. Given that the SR has been stonewalled by Murray and Icsman, now all city commissioners are responsible for open records request complicance since your letter was copied to all.....no doubt that there will much to report and write about if you can obtain those digital messages among the city commissioners, Kline and Iccman....your clents are waiting for you to take the open records request to the next level...

Anonymous

Nice work.Now you are talking.I love it when a plan comes together.We can beat em' at their own game.Adapt,overcome.Brilliant really.

Anonymous

If city commissioners fail to comply with the open records law or fail to disclose any and all e-mails or other digital messages related to anything connected to city business, then the option for the city's voters could be a recall petition targeting the city's commissioners who fail to comply or are caught destroying any public records of any form including deleted e-mails or text messages. A public record may not be destroyed without following the required policy according to Ohio statues covering public records. The idea of transparent government is a joke in this city given what has taken place in the last two weeks...time for city commissioners to get on the internet and Google Ohio's open records laws and learn about their obiligations under state law.

Anonymous

GREAT idea!!! Just don't forget Nuesse's computer and phone also. Let's see everyone's if you're going to do it. I think it would show fairness.

Anonymous

So.....are we signing petitions or not? Was this just a bluff?

Anonymous

WE should start wrapping crime scene tape around city hall,confiscate all computer's with private investigator's if necessary.

Anonymous

Matt, you've ridden this train too long. True, it was the only one to bring you any accolades, but that was many, many articles ago (and therefore a matter of a few days!) Quit with the "Look at me! Pat me on the back!" stuff - we're afraid to touch you, as some of your "genius" *cough* might rub off. If you were a real newspaper man, you wouldn't be waiting for the City to release what they want us to hear and call it a story, you lazy bum. Go out and scoop!

Anonymous

It's no bluff. A buisness group is forming a petition drive this week-end.

Anonymous

I'll keep watching....

Anonymous

Great lets get this ball rolling, let's see what can be done to oust Icsman also. What he told the commission on Monday about being able to hire Murman on emergency according to article 307.86 of the rivised Ohio Code is an outright lie. I have the revision he is talking about and nowhere does it say he has the authority to do this. This would have to be voted on by the commission as an emergency legislation allowing him to hire this Murman group according to the code.

Anonymous

point taken.. please remember that the city commission works for d. icsman. regardless of what he says or does he has controled 222 meigs st. since 1998. deception, lies, and blatant disregard for those work around him have lead to this chicanery. a truly charming individual of low moral and mental capacity, iscman flips commissioners the way you do a pancake.

Anonymous

You people are really hopeless. Why can't you just keep your pants on until they come out with the truth on the allegations? Geez...I am sure that the people involved with the investigation have their reason's for not releasing as of yet...and Nooooo, not because she might be so innocent. I have never seen such a bunch of people that act like they have no other life than Nuesse. Take Note: There IS life beyond Nuesse.

Anonymous

307.86 pertains to County Commissioners. What does the City Charter say?

Anonymous

To the one person obsessed with bashing Don Icsman - you need to get a mental health evaluation and get started on your meds. This kind of obessession is not healthy. It appears that at some point you didn't get what you wanted down at City Hall and you need someone to blame. Don's not that person. I have been a friend of Don's for years and can tell you that no one cares more about this city and about protecting the city from lawsuits than Don Iscman. Don is one of the most moral and ethical law directors that this City has ever had and he will stay here as long as he wants to stay. He is a good man and he does not deserve your spiteful vindictiveness. You really don't know about even a fraction of the issues that Don faces, nor do you know about the efforts he makes to protect the city. If you knew, you would be ashamed. To all you reading this blog, please keep in mind that the defamatory ramblings of one mentally unbalanced individual should be treated with serious suspicion. My guess is a fired city worker. Get over yourself.

Anonymous

Section 25 of the city charter says that anything over $10,000 must go out for bid. It also says that the total incremental billing is to be counted against the cap of $10,000. It does not give Icsman the authority to declare an emergency in order to over-ride this section. Any and all emergencies are to be voted on by the commission not Icsman.

Anonymous

Sorry, but you are wrong on all counts. The fact that you are a friend of Icsmans just makes the issue more biased, as in, you can't see the forest for the trees. His constant rulings have caused more problems for this city then any person in that same position in the citys history. He makes a blind decision that Murray has no conflict of interest in voting for the MD and the mear fact of Murray having a marina in the same area and would benifit from any building along the waterfront floats in the face of common sense. He makes the decision to hire an investigator for this Nuesse fiasco and does not have the authority to do so. These are just a few of the recent examples of his incompetence. I am sure alot of people could quote you more idiotic decisions this person has made. You obviously do not posess an open mind in this issue.

Anonymous

OK, if there were allegations about Nuesse concerning her truthfulness (the fact that the city's dispatch was not in as dire need to be replaced as she said...The Tim and Kim show as it's been described on here), or allegations of disappearing parking tickets (which is a crime...and keep in mind what happened when McClung didn't pay his parking tickets and some soul paid the fine after the warrant was issued to the trustees), along with other allegations of hostile work environment (whatever that may be..hmmm), and things the public does not know that are contained in the investigation. Some of you same people would be criticizing the city gov't (Kline, Icsman, and the commissioners) for not doing something about it. Once an allegation is brought to the attention of management, don't they have an obligation to at least get the facts? Whether it be through statements from the accuser, or evidence brought forth by documentation, or writs of public record? I personally do not care if she is guilty or innocent. If's she's innocent, get her back to work. If she's guilty, send her on her way. All I'm getting at is this..many of you same people would complain if the city didn't do anything about it, and now that they are, you are armchair quarterbacking every decision they make. Let the investigation take it's course. Wait till the report becomes public, then decide. Everyone's in arms about this thing and none of us, including myself, know what is factual, and what is rumor. We live in a small town. Somebody is gonna know somebody. All the bashing of our elected officials, and Kline, Icsman, Nuesse,etc. is not going to solve anything. They've already forked out wads of cash for Murman. I would like to at least hear what he has to say. Seriously people, make your own decisions, instead of letting Westerhold, the SR, the commissioners, Kline, and Icsman make them for you.

Anonymous

Maybe in any other situation,but i see a pattern of conduct from city hall that clearly is evasive and self-serving.not to mention delay tactic's out the wazoo.sooooooo when is the timeline for this?

Anonymous

I think at the next Charter Review, the Charter members should look into Section 25 and shore up the loop holes that Icsman is looping through. When Don Icsman decides to hire on a consultant without competitive bidding because he is claiming an emergency, he needs to get that emergency okayed by the commissioners. This is not Icsman's complete call because there are budget ramifications to consider which the commissioners have to answer to. We need checks and balances to spend money, especially money we don't have.

Anonymous

don icsman has "a" friend??? he must have needed to use you for something. like the city commission and pancakes, he flipped you too. sympathy is extended.

Anonymous

I have to tell you Matt that I am now a disgrunted reader. You should do something about the unanimous people that post here and make registration mammatory. That meeting at the fire station was all pre-deranged. All of your rants hear will not clench my thirst for facts. When you right stories, you seem to take things out of contest and write suppository remarks. A lot of your writing shows frigments of your imagination. tt is right about you, you are a lazy bum that refuses to seek the facts. Get off your lazy bum and go scoop. Maybe you can set the truth free which will be a detergent for dirty politics and corruption.

Anonymous

So, what has Kline done with the report? Is he going to let anyone else in on it? How much longer to we have to wait? When is the rest of the report due? Do the commissioners get to see what was in the report? If Kline can look at the report, why weren't the rest of the commissioners given a copy? Kline just took the report and didn't shared it with anyone?

Anonymous

Is dismissive and calculating, IMO.

Anonymous

I've seen the future of the Ohio Democratic Party and its name is Marc Dann.

The man speaks my language.

You go, Dann. I'm cheering for you.

You go, Dann.

Anonymous

add to the list: vindictive, callous, abrassive, hateful, dishonest, unhappy, incompetent, charming,immoral, manipulative, paranoid, calculating, deceitful...the list is long when one mentions don. c. iscman. ask around...and check the eyes,the eyes don't lie..

Anonymous

Fostoria, Perkins Township chiefs settle suit
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Fostoria’s Police Chief has settled his defamation lawsuit against Perkins Township for $45,000.

Police Chief John McGuire’s defamation lawsuit against Erie County’s Perkins Township trustees and Police Chief Tim McClung has been settled out of court, with a resolution approved Tuesday night by Perkins Township trustees.

“It was dismissed. It is over. Am I happy? I would like to have seen it go to court but there are extensive legal bills I had to consider. I think it was unfair the taxpayers and (the township’s) insurance company have to pick up the bill for some actions and comments made by McClung,” McGuire said.

Dean Henry, McGuire’s attorney, confirmed the settlement and its amount. He said the agreement has no admission of liability from either party.

“It was a reasonable settlement. For my client it was more about the principal,” Henry said.

Henry said the amount of the settlement was more than attorneys fees McGuire acquired defending himself during last year’s criminal proceedings.

McGuire’s suit agains McClung was filed in February 2007 over comments McClung made about McGuire “with intent to harm” that questioned McGuire’s character and commented on past allegations that were never proven to Fostoria Mayor John Davoli and Safety Service Director Bill Rains prior to McGuire being sworn in as police chief in February 2006.

Perkins Township trustees voted 3-0 Tuesday night to approve a resolution to accept the agreement that pays McGuire $45,000 for those comments.

Phone calls to the Perkins Township trustees were not returned.

McGuire was an officer and a detective in Perkins Township from 1993 to 2000, during which time he and McClung built a history. McGuire provided grand jury testimony against McClung regarding alleged embezzlement of funds from the township’s K-9 unit. McClung faced several trials in 2001, with juries acquitting him of some charges and unable to reach decisions on others. At McClung’s last trial, he eventually was charged with 28 criminal charges that were dropped in exchange for McClung giving $11,000 to the National Narcotics Detector Dog Association, according to published reports at that time. Records on those courts proceedings have been sealed.

Years later their fates came together when McClung testified against McGuire during McGuire’s criminal case on four charges of falsification and tampering with records for allegations he falsified his resume and job application to the city of Fostoria to obtain the office of police chief. McGuire eventually was found not guilty last year by Seneca County Common Pleas Judge Michael Kelbley after a week-long bench trial.

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Not first lawsuit wrote on May 14, 2008 9:34 PM:

Anonymous

please note.. don icsman "rarely" renders a legal decision on municipal law. for 10 years squires, sanders & demspey, a cleveland law firm have handled MUCH of the legal work for sandusky. outsourcing is the reaon d. icsman has remained in power. his shell game on paying for these services is a work of art. keep the cost hidden by raiding dept. budgets
and nobody knows the real cost. the nuesse scam and the housing dept. fiasco are two examples of hiding true expenses..and the beat goes on...

Anonymous

obsfucate the truth wrote on May 15, 2008 9:54 AM:

" I have to tell you Matt that I am now a disgrunted reader. You should do something about the unanimous people that post here and make registration mammatory. That meeting at the fire station was all pre-deranged. All of your rants hear will not clench my thirst for facts. When you right stories, you seem to take things out of contest and write suppository remarks. A lot of your writing shows frigments of your imagination. tt is right about you, you are a lazy bum that refuses to seek the facts. Get off your lazy bum and go scoop. Maybe you can set the truth free which will be a detergent for dirty politics and corruption. "

I REALLY hope all those mistakes were an attempt at humor

Anonymous

Yes, it was all meant for humor. It was sarcasm because Matt misspelled the word obfuscate. Somethings have to be fully explained to some people. :)

Anonymous

Poop!

Anonymous

This is so sad. I grew up here and never realized what a pathetic place it was to be.

Politicians who polarize this city in search of their own self importance. Elected officials who cry "transparency" and practice opacity. Citizens who are ready to torment and crucify at the drop of a hat. People who are both juvenile and delusional in the way the speak and behave regarding the lives and beliefs of others.

A place where spelling errors become a platform for ridicule. And stupidity becomes an open opportunity to practice bigotry and hate.

A place where a person dare not post their name, because they cannot be sure if you are their neighbor and your narcissistic behavior leaves them wondering what could be next. A place where it is better to fear your friend than to trust in the people you have known for your entire life.

This is Sandusky and Sandusky, I am one of you. And I am ashamed.

Anonymous

Matt is ridiculed on a daily basis because he has decided to take on the entire city governement, without being armed with ANY FACTS. It is this simple.....if someone commits a crime and you talk to ONLY them, of course they are going to say they are being picked on. If you take up their side based on ONLY that, then you have no ethics and you become a puppet. This is what Matt Westerhold is. He is not a real journalist and he has shown that over the past few weeks. He thought he would further his career by snuggling up to Kimmie in her time of need and thought he could help her out at the same time. All he has done, is made a mockery out of this whole situation and allowed her to continue to get paid for doing nothing. I mean let's look at this way, what if Matt Westerhold could have helped her get her job back who do you think she would have run to everytime she had something to say....well it all backfired in his face and I love it. Unless he owns the SR, I think he should be run out of town with Kim. He has brought shame to that paper, that was running on fumes before all this. The Lorain Journal talks more highly of Law Enforcement than the SR ever has. Am I the only one who finds it funny that two of our officers were on the front page of the Lorain Journal for the LE Memorial and that same day the SR was running LE through the mud again...are they stupid???

Anonymous

AMEN to that!

Anonymous

Someone should try to go and blog in the latest Kline story, there were just about 8 blogs that were deleted as soon as they went on here. They get touchy if you are not a Nuesse supporter. Why is that?

Anonymous

SR is up very late deleting blogs.

Anonymous

The RE: RE: JUST ANOTHER ONE OF US IS MY COMMENT TOO.

Anonymous

Post below is mine too

Anonymous

Keep up the GREAT work Matt! These city officials can't stand the fact that YOU are doing your job in trying to bring to the public light, the nonsense that they are trying to escape with! I for one, would love to KEEP reading what you have to say!

Anonymous

Wonderful suggestion! The thing is, by the time someone would request such, the information will be most likely be deleted! Perhaps you should have suggested this via a phone call to Matt. I hope Matt reads this and does exactly what you suggested!

Anonymous

bye bye kimmie

Anonymous

It seems the Murman report is holding up everything and had the investigation been done in a timely manner, our city could have saved tons of money and a whole lot of grief. My guess is that Murman only put in a few hours a week on this or it would not have taken this long to investigate one person. I would question the amount of hours his agency devoted to this a week and the way the investigation was conducted with adertising for people to come forward with any dirt on her. This is coupled with Kline's slow reading of the report and the seriousness of the matter to render a decision of whether or not to keep the chief. I would hold Icsman accountable for not monitoring the progress of this investigation so as to quickly devote the time to not dragging the investigation on and on. If we can outsource the housing department, we certainly can outsource the law department. I am for going back to a part-time attorney to get us through the basic daily operation of our legal work and outsource the rest of it to an firm, competitively bidding the contract out, to a firm that specializes in city law. I believe with all the outsourcing Icsman does and the salary he gets paid for outsourcing most of his work out, that it isn't in the best interst of the city to keep him on full time anymore and the commissioners need to look at this and make a move on it.

Anonymous

Just wanted to see if this blog stays...all of my blogs keep getting deleted.

Anonymous

Matt must have already deleted "Open records law"? or am I missing it? Seems that all of the blogs that speak the truth get deleted. There was a VERY good blog in yesterday's article that didn't last too long here at all last night. EVERY time I asked what happened to it and every blog of mine after that got deleted last night. SR was up late deleting.

Anonymous

" All you "Nuesse Followers" who are demanding to know what she is being accused of....why dont you ask her or her joke of an attorney??? The moron knows now what she is being accused of, so why has SHE not made it public??? Uhm maybe cause she knows if does she will lose her "support"???? The city manager and those invloved are no longer the ONLY Ones who knows....she does....so why hasnt she run to Westerhold and pleaded her case?? Was she told not to? If so, then I guess she is following the advice of her "Attorney" either way the woman (and I use that term loosley) knows what she has been accused of, so ask her to tell you if you want to know so bad......... "

Anonymous

VERY good idea! Buuut, do you think she will tell the truth? Hmm. ;)

Anonymous

@ Hey Matt Answer this... post on May 18, 2008 4:05 PM:

I am a resident of Sandusky and I am on the fence about this whole ordeal. I want to know ALL the facts before I decide for or against the chief.

With that said, it seems that you have some "inside" information about this entire ordeal. Please tell us. Inquiring minds would love to know what the he*l is going on here. If you know what she is being accuesed of, please tell us. I for one am sick and tired of waiting for this stupid report to be made public.

You say, "The moron knows now what she is being accused of, so why has SHE not made it public???" and, "The city manager and those invloved are no longer the ONLY Ones who knows....she does....so why hasnt she run to Westerhold and pleaded her case??"

So it sounds like YOU know what is going on. Please enlighten us so we know whether to jump on the Nuesse band wagon, or the anti-Nuesse band wagon.

Or is it that YOU can't spill any beans just like SHE can't spill any beans.

This IS a very interesting (and frustrating) situation.

So please - tell us what is in that report!

By the way... are you Matt Kline....or Don Icsman....or a city cop....or Murray...or Stahl............Who are YOU that you have this inside information?

Inquiring minds want to know the truth; so don't hold back....spill all out Big Boy! ! ! ! !

Anonymous

Hey SR...How about an IP address for the "Hey Matt Answer this... post on May 18, 2008 4:05 PM."

They obviously have some inside info.

Anonymous

Obviously they must not want to tell it or can't. But like they said, why don't you all ask Nuesse?

Anonymous

Have you tried getting any reports from a government agency? With the Freedom Of Information Act it still takes for ever and they seem to be dragging the feet even more now days.I have been waiting,for an U.S. Army Corps of Engineers report from last September about my property,while my property erodes away. These types of delays makes me think that "OUR" government is hiding something or they are WRONG and just won't admit it.

Anonymous

I'm telling you people, get a grip on this IP stuff, YOUR CLUELESS!!!!!!

Get over it and stop the complaining. If you're so worried about privacy want do you allow our federal gov't to snoop on every phone call and email that gets placed or sent in the U.S.?

Huh? Yeah, thats right, you don't care about real privacy but when somebody mentions IP address you freak out like a hooker in church.

Anonymous

This is nothing other than a cat-n-mouse game. Kinda like Tom & Jerry! Whether for or against the Chief, or the Commissioners, let the investigative report be read and a decision rendered. Isn't that what Mr. Kline is being paid to do? Then go from there! If the Chief ends up having to fight for her job, she already has a lawyer retained! Supposedly one of the best, for sure one of the most expensive! Sure hoping the city won't have to pay for that as well! Maybe that's why Mr. Kline is taking his time in rendering a decision?

Anonymous

Crandall to step down on Friday. He has delivered his official letter of resignation to city hall.

Anonymous

@ "Hey Matt Answer this"

Come on dude, your post on May 18 at 4:05 sounded like you had all the inside information on Nuesse. Tell us what it is.

Inquiring minds want to know the truth; so don't hold back....spill it all out Big Boy! ! ! ! !........or don't you have the BA*LS to do it?

Anonymous

It appears to me that Kline should be investigated for the inept and possible corrupt way he has handled the Neusse investigation.

Was her alleged wrong doings so felonious that he could have discussed the allegations with her and corrected them before blowing up in the communities face ?

It appears to me Kline is over his head and the Commissioners should consider replacing him.

Anonymous

How does a city manager take so long trying to come to a decision of how he is going handle the end result of the report? Is the city manager capable of making a decision? We need a decision rendered so the city knows what it is up against. Either way, one career has been destroyed and a lawsuit will be filed. I don't look for the chief to come back because she has no support from her bosses and so much hate coming from the employees she serves over that she won't be able to function. We all know what is coming, just do it and get it over with. The city needs to take its lumps and prepare for the storm that is about to hit. Kline needs to call an executive session to tell his bosses what is in the report and what he intends to do and go from there. The commissioners also must think about whether to keep Kline on as he has cost the city a great deal of money. We need to have a clause in the city manager's contract that there will be a year's probation and if his management is not up to par, the city can let him go during the probationary period. It is obvious, Kline doesn't know the first thing when dealing with personnel problems. The IMA needs to stay clear until the report and Kline's decision comes down. They should not interfere with the process until it is over.

Anonymous

It appears to me that neither one of you have a clue on what you are talking about. You are not the city manager for a reason, Mr. Kline is the city manager! I am SURE that he knows what is going on here and I am SURE he knows what he is doing in handling it. So why don't all of you "know-it-all" people just BACK off and let him do the job he was hired to do. What is SOOOO hard about that to understand?! In other words, BUTT OUT.

Anonymous

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Anonymous

If Kline can't make a decision in two weeks after reading the report, he shouldn't be city manager. The guy cannot make any decisions. It is time to get this all out in the open and he needs to quit dragging his feet. The longer this goes on, the more problems it creates. If it takes much longer, different groups will be shooting from the hip with recall petitions.

Anonymous

Matt Kline is now on page 71 of the 256 page report. I think the ink is dry!

Anonymous

@ Hey Matt Answer This:

It's been 3 days know since you shot off your mouth and you haven't put any of that "inside information" on these blogs that you seem to have.

Come on "Hey Matt," we want to know the inside scoop.......Just what I thought, "Hey Matt" knows NOTHING! He's just a Nuesse hater with NO information to back up his claims

You are either an idot or you don't have ANY BA*LS! Which is it?