Change is good

Matt Westerhold
Mar 23, 2010

 

The last paragraph from the Murman report executive summary recommends Kim Nuesse not be reinstated as Sandusky police chief "unless the city is prepared for the wholesale replacement of the command and support staff."

So be it.

Comments

reader

Either way, if the charges are justified or not, this certainly brings into question the wisdom of those who hired the chief.....or the wisdom of those who are on a "witch hunt."

Common Sense

If you were truly only interested in those areas shared by every citizen, how many citizens requested the Sandusky Register to publish the CCW list? Also, I can personally attest for a number of citizens who still would like to know why the Register has not pursued items concerning the Perkins Police Department such as the investigation that was published a few short months ago and yet, no one has ever spoken about its resolution? If you have read or can archive past blogs, you will see that it is a common point in many threads concerning police departments or the trustees.

Anonymous

I am starting to think that Elsebeth isn't as crazy as people make her out to be. Things have been covered up much too long and someday the swat team will be all over this town, it is just a matter of time. The pot has been brewing for quite a while now and is ready to pop it's lid.

Anonymous

The SR poll asking how we feel about chief Nuesse being put on paid leave is not right. If two people live in a household and one votes already then the other person doesn't get the right to vote. This is not fair and does not reflect the true view of the people.

Anonymous

It's hard to talk from where I sit. Know that I read and investigate what you say as it relates to my position. Kim was doing what she was hired to do.

Anonymous

Why don't you get from behind the computer and go get the facts of this story. Inquiring minds want to know the details.

Anonymous

I told everyone that Matt knew something was going on. And all of you haters out there ought to give the man props on this one. Some of your stories are junk, Mr. Westerhold, but you called this shot.

sandtown

Nuesse doesn't know what she is talking about. of course she is the chief cause now our law enforcement can only play patty cake with anyone who does anything wrong. You want to keep people out of jail give us a chief who can kick some a**. I am sure her lack of decision making will get her out of there soon enough!

Anonymous

Who you tink you people are? I gotta lotta money anda I pay a lotta money. I givva lotta of money to election campaigns. Inna this country, money talks anda my money talks. I putta lotta money into Perkins. Ima da boss here. I paya my boy Matt a lotta money. Matt printas whatta I tell him to. You no like Sandusky thenna you move. I tryta paya the woman chief money butta she no want. You shutta up you face, Elsebeth. You no have business inna Sandusky. I gotta lotta money and money do lotta talking.

I gotta lotta friends in highya places.

All you people here stupid. All you people shutta up you face. Who you tink putta dis ting together? Me, dats who. Ima da boss here.

Anonymous

Now is the time to get rid of Nuesse, for she has been trouble the first day she entered the Police department. All she thinks is about her. The media gueen, me me me I I I When she came in,the first thing she did is change all the cuys work schedule just to screw up their lives and it been down hill from then on. Send her butt back to Reynoldsburg where she came from.

Anonymous

Is chief Neusse getting too close to specific facts about Murray, Stahl, Crandal and the Marina and Chesapeake projects that these people thought they had well hidden?

Anonymous

It's time for the Register to step up and show if they are a legitimate investigative journalistic entity or part of "the old guard" trying to hide in the closet.

Anonymous

Very Racist thing to say.

If you had worded into "Street Language" and inferred that somehow an African American had talked like that, you would be without questioned called a Racist. Not all Italians are mobsters.

Anonymous

I demand the Register removes Cosa Nostra Don's comment IMMEDIATELY! I AM OFFENDED!

TT

The ones that aren't deleted, anyway. By the way, many of us responed to your last blog - you may not remember it, it was so long ago. I digress: when can we expect your other-worldly answer to where some of those posts disappeared, or your undoubtedly amusing explanations as to what, if not deliberate deletion, befell them? I await your response, hoping you're not one of those paid "professionals" that works on a "whenever-I-feel-like-it" (or "whenever-I-can-get-back-the-nerve") basis.

TT

The ones that aren't deleted, anyway. By the way, many of us responded to your last blog - you may not remember it, it was so long ago. I digress: when can we expect your other-worldly answer to where some of those posts disappeared, or your undoubtedly amusing explanations as to what, if not deliberate deletion, befell them? I await your response, hoping you're not one of those paid "professionals" that works on a "whenever-I-feel-like-it" (or "whenever-I-can-get-back-the-nerve") basis.

TT

You don't let anyone's personal information remain on the pages...huh...I don't know, the CCW list as published (if I remember correctly) only came with a name and a county, which was still too much, and I don't have any problems finding it on the website. Ooh, I get it, the "personal information" that was up there only happened to belong to one person! Right! Was it...MATT?!

TT

One more thing: the "much-needed" vacation? You wrote three blog entries before this, the last two of which were basically done for you. Was the three pages/week getting to you, or was it the realization that people don't seem to like you?

Anonymous

Why are you offended? Are you part of the mob? The Cosa Nostra are Italian and Sicilian but not all Italians are Cosa Nostra. You also have the Jewish mob, the Irish mob, the Russian mob and other mobs. Lighten up. Do you also complain when the Godfather movies are shown on TV? Racist? Nobody made fun of Italians here. Geeze, you just made invitations to crazy people to start posting Italian jokes and bashing Italians just like they did the gay people. Somebody posted that possibly there may be mob influence and you get your undies in a wad.

Anonymous

You're such a tool! Look everyone, there's n profanity here, but watch it gets deleted anyway!

Anonymous

Nick,

It has come to everyone's attention that you only have this job because you're daddy owns the paper. Care to address the situation? What are your qualifications exactly? And a masters in underwater basket weaving doesn't count. You're such a joke. Go back to New York you yuppie scum!

Anonymous

My new format looks like crap. It's impossile to find anything on me. Thanks for ruining a good thing Nick!

Anonymous

You look like Walter Peck, the bad guy from ghostbusters. Bill Murray called him a needle dick. You're probably a needle dick too, if you have one. Will you erase this post? Probably.

What a hypocrit.

Sandusky HATES YOU!!!!

You've ruined my favorite website (funcoast) and I hope you die!!!

Delete away, hyocrit, delete away!!!

TT

Ohh Niiiiiiiickkkk...I had 4 posts up here: 3 posts and a correction. You are the hypocrite of hypocrites. Put my posts back up please, especially if you're going to leave the others up. I expect to see them very soon, or perhaps I'll just rewrite them. Our whole paper is a sham, and you staffers are an embarassment to all kinds of real journalists and ALL honest people everywhere.

Anonymous

What is racist about it? I recall an old Alka Seltzer commercial on TV where an Italian guy is eating spicy meatballs and gets an upset stomach. The guy in the commercial said something to the effect of "Mama Mia, thatsa spicy meatballa". Maybe you are more upset because there may be mobsters doing business in Sandusky and you and Italian American want the post taken down because maybe it is really true. I wonder if you two are the same people that bash a known private person on the news blogs.

TT

Here I go, you little pervert:

1.) Nick, from what were you taking a vacation from, your three-page/week op-ed job, or from the righteous ridicule you received for actually writing worse than your partner-in-Grime, Matt?

2.) Maybe you could have used that time to get a real degree, and could have left us alone to EARN a real job. That'd be work, though, right?

3.) You say personal information was deleted from the CCW list. Again, you are a liar. I can still find all the information published from the CCW lists - that's name and county - so who's personal information could have been deleted? Why, it could only have been your good buddy Matt's! Matt has often forgot that what goes around, comes around. Luckily, we, his adoring public, are around every corner to remind him - and we will do so to you as well.

4.) Do you SR op-ed jackals understand why you're the scourge of the entire community? It's because you wrap yourself in the concept of jounalistic integrity to protect yourself (unsuccessfully) from reproach from your thoroughly unethical and arguably illegal acts. We used to have a paper worth reading everyday, worth touting and good enough to make us all proud to be from this community. Now, thanks to you, Matt, Marie, and all the rest, it's half scandal-sheet and half propaganda rag. Are YOU proud?

TT

Amazing, I no sooner posted my next comment and the one I had posted a minute before was gone! It contained no profanity, no libel, or anything. If you can't take the truth, you should go back to cowering and crying in the corner with Matt! I had 4 kosher posts earlier today: 3 originals, and one for a spelling correction (Matt, take note: when I misspell a word, or misspeak, instead of getting angry at other and ignoring the error, I CORRECT MY MISTAKE AND LEAVE IT AT THAT, glad for the increased wisdom.

TT

Where are my posts, Nick, you craven little coward? ALL of them...

TT

Nick, Matt, put them back up.

TT

Hey Nick, remember this?

In the two-and-a-half months since I've been employed at the Sandusky Register we have not, to my knowledge, removed any posts because we disagree with them. And I am in a position to know. Posts that are not clearly libelous, defamatory, threatening, or abusive must be cleared by me before they are deleted. I would consider anyone's removing posts for such a reason as grounds for immediate disciplinary action, and I would fire anyone who did it twice -- and I'd put the post back up in both cases.

-you-

TT

You going to back that up, or just do what everyone expects you to do?

TT

I'm not going away this time. I want to see my posts up there and kept there. If you can't take the heat, stay out of the kitchen.

TT

Yoo-hoo, how about them posts. I know you can put them back up, ladies. You've done it before when you'd been called out. Let's see 'em.

TT

I'm still here, liars, and I won't go away.

TT

I'll make this the most-commented-on post of the day. I can't imagine you'd want so many others to read what's here.

TT

Posts - put 'em up. Each one gave you a much-needed dose of truth.

TT

So, how long are we going to have to wait for you to respond, Little Nicky? Two weeks this time? You've got your vacation lined up for the rest of the month? If not, might I suggest the Chesapeake - it's been both as expensive (that's "very) and useful (that's "not at all") as you have comparatively been to the Register, I'm sure. How about you respond right now?

TT

Put the posts back up.

TT

Oh my goodness! Those missing posts just magically appeared! Wonderful!

Anonymous

Hey tt:

Shut the fck up. I do my job better than anyone on earth does theirs.

I am amazing.

Leave me alone.

TT

I'm gonna find you.

Then I'm gonna rape yer butt!

TT

Oh wait, you missed two.

TT

And uh, why doesn't tt at 10:26 find a more creative alias. tt's been taken.

TT

You guys are confused. I am "tt," and I'm not Nick White: read the whole thing, Nick is quoting me. The headline is "tt [that's me] wrote on..." He's responding to my comment on a previous blog. I hope that clears the air.

TT

Shut up mom I`m busy I don`t want to go to bed yet!!!!Oh s@$t did I type that

TT

Mom look what you just made me do

TT

Mom I don`t want to take my meds ,your embarrassing me infront of my friends.

TT

I gotta go mom`s pi@#$$ed

TT

To the imposter of the last four, grow up. If you think I'M childish, what does that make you? Obviously, you're at a very specific level of intelligence and self-respect (low, why else would you pose as someone else?) Have you applied to write for the Register yet?

Anonymous

There is no such thing as the mafia.

TT

And to the imposter, didn't someone already call you out previously? Maybe you SHOULD go to bed - that way you'll be more intelligent by morning! Have a Blessed Evening!

Anonymous

Are you kidding? The Mafia doesn't run this town--if it did, things would run much smoother.

Anonymous

Well Matt, looks like you will have to wait another week and then you may not get a story. Mum is the word because of pending litigation? I think the city handled the whole thing poorly. I see her leaving because of the broken relationship with her employer. Her career has been destroyed and for that, there will probably be a lawsuit to set things right. I see it being settled out of court for fear of this going to court and exposing the corruption within our city and all records will be sealed never to know what really took place.

Tim

I bought some Italian snow tires a couple of months ago. I was told that dago through mud and snow. But that was not the case. They went flat and went wop wop wop as I slowly drove down the road. My Jewish relatives were killed by the racist Fascist Italians during WWII.

Anonymous

All i have to say is that I believe in Karma and it's about time. My personal interactions with her showed me her true character and it wasn't good. Don't be fooled she will do and say what is necessary to cover her butt and doesn't care who or what she hurts in the process. There is proof out there and I hope it's found.

Anonymous

a bear is sitting on a log taking a crap. a little squrrel sits next to the bear. bear says "hey squrrel do you have problems with poop sticking to your fur?" squrrel says "why no". bear says "good" and picks up the squrrel and wipes his behind.

Anonymous

If you want anyone to believe you are the genuine "tt", you must first acquire a larger vocabulary. Or maybe you should stop drinking before posting. I may not always agree with the genuine "tt", he often uses words that nearly 80% of the population must use context clues or a dictionary to figure out his/her message.

Anonymous

Mr. White, it would appear that you’ll have to employ some method of registering posters. On other paper’s websites it seems to help keep nonsense down to a minimum.

Also, I’ve noted that some media websites delete the post yet let the poster’s username name remain thus helping to draw attention to those who would repeatedly submit content that is inane, insane, lewd or vulgar.

Anonymous

Has anyone heard about the employee attacked and bit in the face by the pit bull in the Castaway Bay parking lot? I am surprised the register has not checked up on this!

Anonymous

Sandusky never did get the full story when former Fire Chief Owen Reed was let go many moons ago. We never will no the entire story behind former City Manager, and Assistant City Manager Packan for that matter, leaving abruptly. Likewise with the Nuesse story even if she is not let go. Let's call in Cleveland Action 5 Team to get the answeres.

Anonymous

Why the vitrol directed against this man? I am disturbed by some of these posts. What has he done to deserve these attacks? Can someone tell me what is going on?

Crackhead

it is a secret.-- t.t. knows something.strangely his posts seem to disappear.

Anonymous

The fact that the same attorney (Michael Murman) is being used inappropriatley to "investigate" the allegations in the community development department and Chief Nuesse stinks. Chief Nuesse's area of expertise is contract compliance, financial checks etc.

Looks to me like she discovered fraud in the awarding of City contracts that affects some of the good old boys (Murray Baxter et al) and the legal mafia has to take her out.

IMO, Sams is a big part of the problem. He was given an outline of the fraud issues in August 2006 shortly after Nueese was hired. Also the problems with detectives Volz and Prosowski in the James Fitzpatrick prosecution and issues of those same detectives trading dropped drug charges for sex has been covered up by Sams.

Apparently he has been running interference for quite awhile.

Anonymous

I think some people are upset because Mr. White represents a return to fuedalism in our country. He didn't earn his job by merit, (talent or appropriate education) but by birthright. He even boasts about the fact that he doesn't have any journalistic standards.

He's the son of the Lord of the manor, abusing position to silence and or discredit the serfs in the field.

Anonymous

Maybe someone can talk the Sortinos into buying WLEC!

Anonymous

Wasn't it Det. Helen Prosowski who wanted the job of Chief before they brought in Chief Kim Nuesse?

Anonymous

So the Register takes tt's posts off the blogs? Hmmmm, that's weird. His posts are usually very good. And this White guy is responsible? To EB: Who is the 'Lord of the manor' you refer to? Thanks to both of you for the information...this is interesting.

Anonymous

No. There are a few other's trying to make a name for themselves though.

TT

I don't know anything more than White himself gives me - he doesn't have a practical degree, and none in journalism, he thinks that journalism school is essentially what's wrong with journalism (both points not assumed, but made explicit by him, and disturbing revelations, indeed), and since he's been here - 2 and 1/2 months - he's written one original blog and fed off comments for his next three. He has also tinkered with the Funcoast page, apparently. Like a few other notable SR staffers, he claims to take truth and journalistic integrity very, very seriously even though his other writings and certain actions speak toward the contrary, in my opinion. Equally vexing about his claims toward journalistic integrity is his stance on journalism schools. I've only taken one lousy journalism class in my entire life, and even I know that it takes a real education - in journalism, of all things - to learn the ethics of the trade. Exactly what Mr. White's problem with said schools is a mystery to me; maybe Nick can enlighten us all as to that...

Anonymous

Your Royal Highness, King of Sandusky

Your liege, Baroness Bootmaker of the Black Forest humbly petitions you for redress under the terms and conditions of your realm.

Sir Nicholas of White Paper has caused much suffering in the realm by his censorship of not only comments of your vassals such as tt but of the learned postings of your Barons that criticize his father's misuse of the power of the press, to wit the posting of Baroness Bootmaker of the Black Forest was deleted by Sir Nicholas of White Paper.

Anonymous

The name I use is just a handle. In reality I'd never want to have any position of power in this city. In any event, I think what you're saying is his dad controls the paper, and therefore controls the message. And, apparently, there's evidence that the paper (i.e. Mr. White) deletes posts on these blogs that don't violate the terms of discussion but upset/could upset certain people who are part of the perceived Sandusky/Erie County 'establishment'? Did I interpret your post properly?

Anonymous

Mighty King of Sandusky

res ipsa loquitur

Crackhead

Elsebeth even this is beyond my grasp please, for me go back to writing what i can easily understand. King of sandusky- thank you for the interpretation.

Anonymous

Dear crackhead,

I'm sorry. It's a stream of consciousness flashback thing with me.

Anonymous

Hmm. Det. Proswski's application for police chief should be on file. Public Records.

Crackhead

that's okay. i was kidding anyway, as i can understand, but if you expect much of the register staff to understand, you will have to shoot a little lower.

Anonymous

Got it. Thanks.

Crackhead

has anyone seen or heard from MHL on here of late? just wondered.

Anonymous

Yes I applied for the job and I have the film rights.

http://sanduskyregurgitator.blog...

Anonymous

I am curious to read your explanation for the removal of Grassroots American Values' post. Since it was not "clearly libelous, defamatory, threatening, or abusive," is someone at the Register going to suffer "immediate disciplinary action"?

Crackhead

hey mr. white--- out of all of the stories on these pages, the one that is detrimental to health and welfare is the Margaretta water situation. how about a follow up story. we'd like more info. read the blog and then see what you can do. prove you're a credit to your industry.

Crackhead

i'd at least like to hear an opinion.

Anonymous

Inquiring minds want to know, who got caught in Neusse's NOOSE? When and where is the lynching?

Anonymous

In xanax veritas...

Anonymous

DUDLEY WHITE HAS BANNISHED YOU TO PURGATORY OTHERWISE KNOWN AS NORTH CENTRAL OHIO. WHAT DID YOU DO TO MAKE DADDY MAD??

Anonymous

King of Sandusky, let me put it this way. If you were a contestant on Jeopardy and the answer was, "res ipsa loquitur," the question could be, "Is Elsebeth Baumgartner a crazy person?"

Anonymous

...and the answer is...yes (sorry EB).

Anonymous

I wonder if you are the same person who whined and cried when I posted onto Matt's blog. The term "res ipsa loquitur" means "the thing speaks for itself". Cosa Nostra Don

Anonymous

What it all comes down to,a woman doing what what has been concidered a man's job but better!The problem is the Ole boys can't deal with it!Face it women make the better leaders.In the average household who takes care of everything from making sure the bills get paid on time, the kids get to school,all the appointments are made , phone calls, dinner, housework, and everything in life in general.Women are the organizers in most households.If you don't have organization you do not have anything.The ole Boys are just mad because Neusse is on top of everything and they can not get away with it with someone on their toes.It's really to bad it really had to come to her getting a lawyer to protect herself when she has done nothing wrong!Good Luck Nusse !You will need it aganist these jerks!

Anonymous

Please Please Ms Nuesse where ever you go take McClung and Westerhold with you. My ears are tired of listening to all of this crap! Just remember one thing, YOU were WARNED about that person on the "otherside" on Perkins Ave.

Anonymous

Agree 100%.

It is time for the Sandusky Register to hire David Marburger and file a Mandamus Action to require the City Commission comply with the Open Meetings Act and Public Records Act.

The contracts awarded to Michael Murman to conduct investigations of City employees are illegal because the contracts were not approved in an Open Meeting. Moreover, there must be notes taken by Commissioners especially Fuqua as liason to the police, Murray, Crandall, and Stahl (at meeting with Nuesse) and in the City Manager's office and police department that are public records.

Because Murman was not legally hired under the Open Meetings Act he has no authority to conduct an "investigation" and there is no exemption under the Public Record's Act.

Time for the Sandusky Register to use legal process to enforce the Public's right to know.

Anonymous

Mighty King of Sandusky:

Your humble servant Baroness Bootmaker of the Black Forest is pleased she has found favor with you. She petitions for a writ of pentobarbital veritas in the realm.

: )

Anonymous

You're cracking me up. The writ is granted. Your posts are insightful. BTW...I don't think you're 'crazy'. Sorry about that.

Kim

Yeah...what she said!!

Crackhead

this story goes up the ladder pretty far, Matt. are you sure you should go there? if you are looking at the SPD, you need to look higher.

TT

This might be off topic...or it might not. I think I've figured out what goes on in the op-ed and editing offices of the SR. Here's a good laugh. Beware - gratuitous innuendo!

http://www.ebaumsworld.com/video...

Anonymous

The commissioners start an investigation and then they will create a written charge when they figure out an angle that might possibly be considered believable. Try defending yourself against the metamorphosis of the unwritten accusation.

Anonymous

So let me get this straight. Elsebeth and Westerhold have the same feelings toward something. Now there's a match made in heaven. We have the male version of Elsebeth leading the local newspaper. Outstanding!

Anonymous

'Therefore, by their fruits you will know them.'(MT: 7:16)

Hate produces hate, or you are what you post.

Anonymous

It's the typical Sandusky good ol' boys mentality. That's why I've moved away. A police chief is hired from outside the area because the city wants to go in a new direction. But after the new chief is on the job and making some changes and progress, one or more of the good ol' boys cries foul and says she's created a hostile work environment. I guess the new direction is not supposed to be too different from the old. Or, maybe the hiring powers thought Chief Nuesse was going to be just a "yes" girl, like Mr. Kline is turning out to be.

Anonymous

Mr. Westerhold:

What's the status on the Register's public Records Request as reported on your entry dated March 4, 2008?

tk

What a shame that this nice lady, Chief Nuesse, is being smeared. It's even a bigger shame that no one is coming to her defense. We know that three of the city commissioners have been doing the dirty work, but where are the other four. Why is no one speaking up for this lady who was doing the job she was hired to do?

I am a registered Democrat but there is no way in the world I will vote to send Dennis Murray to Columbus as my Representative.

Anonymous

I have a mint bag full of 5000 brand new shiny pennies. 10 brand new pennies to all who will put up campaign signs for Murray this fall.

Anonymous

TK"I am a registered Democrat but there is no way in the world I will vote to send Dennis Murray to Columbus as my Representative. "

I'm in he same boat you are. I've been having similar thoughts of late. The surfacing of this issue hasn't done anything to convince me of his "leadership" skills. He needs to shake the sycophant Chihuahua from his leg and take charge of the Commission.On the other hand, maybe he has "taken charge" which is why the collective Commission's silence on the matter is deafening.Seems as though "gag orders" are the rule of the day in these-here parts.

Common Sense

Although I agree with Elsebeth's suggestion for the newspaper (legal counsel), I hardly believe you will step out of line or put money towards the truth. Go ahead; prove me wrong!

Anonymous

Dennis Murray signs in the yard, I highly doubt it, you would even have a problem having your nitwit brother carry a sign if he still run around Sandusky on his roller blades just to get his name in the paper. The problem with a Murray in any office is they try to run it like the law firm. The commissioners follow suit as to what Murray says , since his is a so called attorney and they are afraid. Well riddle me this batman, why do you think Murray wanted to be a commissioner when he has a thriving law practice which pick and choose what cases to take, cause we have a multi- million dollar office and marina to pay for so please keep all lawsuits above the 6 figure mark and give the rest to the local yocals. Do you think there are some underlying motives here? I think I speak for the majority of people in Erie county as saying I or we wouldn't let Dennis Murray take a dog to Columbus to be euthanised, much less be our state representative!!

Anonymous

Matt, Keep up the heat. The three stooges are feeling it. Word is not all 7 are behind this "investigation"

Anonymous

Aren't you the new guy? And you're already taking vacation? Got some cheese?

Anonymous

Lotsa blather and counter-blather. BOR-ING. (Yawn)

Anonymous

Matt,

I read today's article containging vague references to emails obtained by your newspaper and the decision from the Ohio Supreme Court relied upon by Don Icsman to justify withholding information for fear of a lawsuit for defamation.

IMO, the fact is by Matt Kline publizing vague unsubstaniated verbal allegations against Chief Nuesse the City is already in jeopardy of a lawsuit for libel, slander, and false light invasion of privacy.

Would you and the Register please step up and demand the records of all communications involving any City employee or official concerning initiating an investigation of Cheif Nuesse. IMO, Mr. Icsman is misrepresenting the nature of attorney client privilege, the Open Meetings Act, the Public Records Act, and the decision Jackson v City of Columbus to improperly smear Chief Nuesse through an unjustified investigation.

Anonymous

Time to get rid of Don Icsman. Best advice an attorney ever gave me was:Never trust an attorney. I found that to good advice more than once. If they have to, they will cover their butts with someones hide.

Anonymous

So, now Don Icsman states he is representing the trio. Hmm, why do they think they need representing? I think the city knows they handled this poorly and they need to cover themselves with yet another investigation only to do it the right way this time to cover themselves and save face when nothing turns up.

Anonymous

I feel that this is politically motivated and we need both an investigation of the city manager and the city commission and let's throw in Don Icsman while we are at it. They all should be on paid leave while this is going on and probably the city would be better off. I would rather pay these clowns not to do anything then to have them get involved and screw everything up. What is a few more city officials being paid to not work. We already have at least 3 people on paid leave.

reader

If you think public records are being improperly withheld, why doesn't the Sandusky Register file a court motion requesting their release ?

Anonymous

Let an "unbiased" newspaper cover this story. How can the managing editor have such venom toward city hall and expect the people of this area to believe we're getting "unbiased" or level coverage in any way, shape, or form?

Anonymous

I no afraid of you, Matt. I paya bigga money. I leava no tracks. Digga all you wantta. I hava no sin. I go to Father Guido Sarducci for confession. I no go to hell. Italiano Americano afraid because I paya him bigga money.

Anonymous

IMO, Don Icsman has violated multiple Disciplinary Rules governing his conduct as an attorney.

For starters, anything related to his meeting with Chief Nuesse, and Commissioners Crandall, Murray, and Stahl is absolutely NOT covered by attorney- client privilege. There is nothing confidential about a meeting between the Chief of Police, the Fire Chief and several Commissioners. Don Icsman is a witness as are Crandall, Murray, Stahl, Fuqua, Miessner etc.

In short Don Icsman is making false statements to interfere with the administration of city business.

Also he has no authority to hire Mike Murman without a vote of the City Commission. He has been getting away with these unauthorized contracts for years under the guise of an independent investigation. Murman is not conducting an independent investigation but a means by which Icsman and the people who want Nuesse gone due her expertise with budgets will fabricate evidence against her.

Come on Matt, your legal advisors can not be buying this from Icsman. File the Complaint for a Writ of Mandamus compelling the production of documents. Also Nuesse ought to consider a Complaint under the Open Meetings Act to set aside the contract to Murman to stop this witch hunt.

Anonymous

I think the commission has violated the open meetings law as what can and cannot be conducted behind closed doors when it comes to dispatch. I do agree that Murman should have been okayed by the commission to bring on as a consultant like any other consultant the city hires. Murman's bill will be well over the cost of what it states in the charter can spend without the commissioner's approval.

Anonymous

Still waiting on the story Matt. Do you think you will ever get it?

TT

Must we wait another week and a half before we here from you again, Nick? Can you give us something about Mr. Harper's tragic murder, or your take on the County Fair board's beer debate, or, since this is still a small community, the re-revamped WLEC? Perhaps you could respond to comments on this blog, even?

Anonymous

It is refreshing to see a newspaper find its voice and begin to actually uncover some of the "good ole boy" ills that have plagued the city for decades. Now let's see the SR authorize and support reporters to become investigators and report their findings rather than relying on what little they are told by public officials. Matt's disclosure from a police officer about the misguided investigation of the police chief is enlightening & refreshing. This newspaper would thrive and provide a public service by being committed to  uncovering the issues, poor decisions and questionable practices of our taxpayer employed public officials at the city, school district and county levels.  However, the SR would also need to put their own staff on notice that those staff relationships and entanglements with "special interest" connections to the "good ole boy" network would also serve as a conflicts of interest to achieve the SR mission and purpose. In other words, a code of journalistic ethics needs to prevail among all SR editors and reporters, something that has not been apparent up until this point. The SR has been part of the problem in Sandusky in the recent past and may now have an opportunity to be part of the solution. If Matt's comments in this editorial are to have any credibility he must support his words with consistent actions by all of the SR staff in the future. Let's hope and trust that all of the SR staff can also learn to walk the talk!

Anonymous

Don Icsman can probe me anytime. He is sucha dreamy stud muffin.

Anonymous

Was that cop authorized to give you a statement. The are rules against that

Anonymous

The better question may be was there even a cop.

Anonymous

So, tell me, if you are off subject you get your blog removed? You said you would not remove any blogs, but you did.

TT

How can I remove blogs? I'm not Nick White.

TT

At first, I was glad to see you sticking up for Nuesse, Matt, but I remembered her former business relations with your dear, dear friend Timmy McClung, which it seems she had wisely severed a while before this happened. Could your outrage toward City Hall have anything to do with this, now that the powers-that-be are attacking a friend of a friend? It's okay to stick our necks out for the Chief, Matt, but let's make sure we're doing it for all the right reasons.

Anonymous

And yet there are further examples of mental masturbation at it’s finest. BOR-ING (yawn).

Anonymous

Matt: I don't always agree with you but I definitely liked your opinion in Sunday's paper about the Nuesse situation. Politics in this town can be awful, but one thing the whole town agrees upon is that Nuessee is getting a bad wrap. As for records not being released, you aren't the only one not receiving requested records from city hall. The city continues to violate requested records information. I especially enjoyed Don Lee's Sunday's cartoon. Don has out done himself on that cartoon!!!!!

Anonymous

Matt:

Greetings and salutations, I must ask you something, why does Erie county have a coroner, but when there is a death bodies are sent to Toledo for the autopsy? Of course it's another Baxter, just curious.

Anonymous

"tt" has brought up something about Matt that I have been wondering about as well after reading his series of articles on the Nuesse matter. His writing does come off as acrimonios toward the city, and he clearly exhibits a bias toward the chief. Is he indeed running interference for " a friend of a friend"? Or is he himself that friendly with the chief, and is letting that friendship color his thought process? It makes me wonder.

Keep on writing, Matt. But be aware of how your writing is making you sound. Be objective...there will be plenty of time for recriminations later on.

Anonymous

Matt:

Good job! "Good Jobs" sometimes can be perilous, but you have done your job. So, (and I know you know this) do not give out the name of the officer who confided in you.

NOT TO ANYONE --- NOT EVEN ANYONE ON THE EDITORIAL/NEWSROOM STAFF! If that officer is "active" he would become dead meat. Keep "that source" protected at all costs. May come in handy later.

During my lifetime, I have seen reporters being served a warrant for far less reasons than protecting a police officer's name. Remember, there are too many retired common pleas court judges and ...........x

Anonymous

This town continues to be manipulated to death, but the cities latest bungling could be a blessing in disguise. By identifying the people who arrogantly & cleverly work behind the scenes to manipulate events in Sandusky and Erie County, perhaps we now have the opportunity to root them out and get a fresh start. By orchestrating and attending the meeting to bushwhack Chief Nuesse, each person involved, at a minimum, demonstrated poor judgment and a failure & unwillingness to follow protocol and the chain of command.

By leaving the Thursday meeting, Chief Nuesse was the only person who exhibited good judgment. Matt Kline failed his first test of judgment by participating in the meeting in the first place. He failed his second test of judgment by not declaring the meeting inappropriate and hanging up…. and third, he failed his test of character by suspending Chief Nuesse and conducting a press conference.

If there was an issue between Chief Nuesse or Chief Nuesse & her employees, then it would have been a personnel issue and Matt Kline’s responsibility to manage as city manager. Kline should not even have discussed a complaint until it was submitted in writing, signed and both sides of the issue heard.

By attending the meeting, Murray, Stahl and Crandall demonstrated poor judgment and arrogance. By not waiting to consult with the other commissioners regarding Chief Nuesse and then proclaiming their joint opinion on dispatch, each exposed themselves as self-anointed decision-makers and above the other commissioners. People are who they are and eventually they will expose themselves. These men have certainly exposed who they are.

The investigation is now being managed and defined by the very men who participated in the events. Each of these men should now be included in the investigation. An independent investigator, without any previous ties to Icsman, the city, or the others….should be hired. Each should at the least step down until a thorough investigation is completed.

Don Icsman, totally failed the city by allowing the meeting to happen and also by not declaring its inappropriateness and walking out of it. He has no business hiring someone to manage an investigation that he himself is embroiled in. After the investigation, Don Icsman needs TO GO!

Murray’s, Icsman’s, Stahl’s Crandall’s and Kline’s actions have all helped to further demoralize a city that is just trying to recover and survive the long list dramas we have gone through in the last couple of years. And we wonder why people don’t want to buy homes and to live in Sandusky; and why other communities shy away from working with Sandusky.

These men have helped to further demoralize the city’s staff and wreacked havoc with the police department. Careers will be destroyed… And for what?

These men have failed their oath to serve the citizens of Sandusky’s best interest and they all need to step down and allow people who earnestly and selflessly want to serve the public’s best interest to take their place.

There is only one way to get beyond this mess and that is with honesty.

• Openly and honestly admit the mistakes that were made.

• Apologize to Chief Nuesse and give her the support and the authority she needs to establish & manage a police department that represents her goals for the department.

• As a city, be willing pay the consequences of such honesty, so we can move on to becoming the kind & prosperous city on the lake we all want to be.

• Make a commitment to creating a city where fair, open and respectful discourse is the only discourse that we are willing to tolerate.

• Hire Sy Murray (CSU's authority on city management and administration) to help clean up this mess.

Anonymous

Why do you keep stirring the pot Westerhold ! people are sick of you and your paper.

TT

At least we post different and original thoughts, most of which don't belong back in the barnyard! Crash/Al, have you turned in your employment application to the Register yet? Your verbose repetetion coupled with lewd imagery suitable for bathroom stalls would be a perfect addition!

Son4

To Pot stirring . Thats what a democracy is all about Pot stirring ! Keep up the good work Matt.

observer

Broom Pusher and Ice Cream man were together today. Would have liked to been a speck on that wall! Sheepskin not required for those two hold the keys.

Anonymous

Sandusky has the Broom Pusher and Ice Cream Man. Perkins has the Pancake Man, No Tell Hotel Man, Gravedigger AKA Uncle Leon, Preacher Man and the Jack Daniels Man AKA Otis. Are all of these characters part of that 20/20 group?

What other characters does Sandusky have?

Anonymous

"Enough is Enough" Matt, you sure are fanning the flames. What is on the agenda for Monday? What exactly is your agenda? Do you think the investigator will need more time? More time to pad the billing? I hope you will find out just exactly how much this guy's bill is going to cost the taxpayer including the billing for four months of investigation which is still ongoing involving the housing department--that is if the city will turn over the documents. Good luck with that!

Anonymous

Mr. White, is this in fact your name? I've had some voids in what is happening at the Register. I requested from you last week information about "what is your job description."

These blogs seem to identify you as a "White." But it's not clear just who you are. However, your pretentious boasting and obvious ego lead me to believe you are either Dudley's (of Santa Barbara, CA.) grandson, or nephew.

Could you allow the paid subscribers of The Sandusky Register to know your relationshio to the "family owners" of The Register, the Norwalk Reflector, and the many other newspapers and radio stations?

You have made many enemies on the editorial side and other departments of the newspaper. Earning respect is something you don't learn in college, is it. Stop talking down to employees, and ask "about them" instead of boasting of your education and authority.

Your real boss, D.R., current chairman of the board (CEO, etc.) started at The Register in the press room, a dirty, stinking job, and he earned the respect of the entire staff. And he also has a college degree. He did not boast, did not portray a figure of authority, and he enjoyed Friday night perch fish frys with employees.

Hoping it's not too late for you to alter your approach to management and to the top of the ladder, heed my advice.

Anonymous

The rumors have proven to be true. tt once had an 'original thought,' but tragically it died of loneliness.

Anonymous

Isn't asking Westerhold that question comparable to asking the county comssioners about employment matters @ SR? If you are curious about the coroner issue ask the powers that be in the county instead of posting it on these blogs.

Anonymous

Well thought out post. We all need to think through how we handle these kind of situations. We have to demand that our community leaders act like professionals.

Anonymous

Seems like it was one more than you had.

Anonymous

LET THE INVESTIGATION GO ON. IF THERE ISN'T ANY WRONG DOING ON NUSSE'S PART THEN WHAT IS THERE TO BE AFRAID OF. DON'T KNOW WHAT SHE IS BELLY ACHING ABOUT BECAUSE SHE IS BEING PAID WHILE ON ADMINISTRATIVE LEAVE. IT SEEMS THAT THE HOMETOWN PAPER ALLOWS MR. WESTERHOLD TO JUST BADGER ANY PERSON WHO HE DISLIKES. IF THIS WAS JUST A PATROLMAN YOU WOULDN'T SEE HARDLY ANYTHING, IF AT ALL, IN THE NEWSPAPER. YOU HAVE TO REMEMBER THAT SAMS AND FROST ARE EVEN COMPLAINING ABOUT NUESSE SO THERE MAY BE SOMETHING TO THIS. SHE GOT HERSELF INVOLVED WITH MCCLUNG CARRYING OUT HIS MODE OF OPERATION WITH SANDUSKY POLICE FINDING OUT THAT SOME OF THESE PEOPLE STAND UP FOR THEMSELVES. AS FAR AS FRANKOWSKI'S LETTER THAT GUY WAS A JOKE. HE DIDN'T DO NOTHING TO INTIMIDATE PEOPLE HIMSELF WHEN EMPLOYED AT SPD. SAT BEHIND A DESK WITH HIS CATALOGS PLANNING HUNTING TRIPS OR WATCHING TELEVISION. HE GOT OFF ON MAKING EVERYONES' LIVES MISERABLE WHEN AT WORK. LIKE I SAID IF THERE IS NOTHING TO HIDE OR FEAR WHY SHOULD NUSSE CARE ABOUT THE INVESTIGATION.

Anonymous

This story is under an "alert". ??

Anonymous

How many witnesses do you need to do an expose on Erie County Prosecutor Kevin Baxter? How many documents do you need to substantiate the claims?

It's been 6 years since I filed the Affidavit of Krista Harris as part of a comprehensive motion to appoint a special prosecutor to investigate Kevin Baxter for official misconduct including alleged sexual misconduct that dwarfs that of former Governor Spitzer.

In all that time, not one of your reporters ever requested an interview with me or to review the bankers boxes full of documentation supporting the allegations of official misconduct.

IMO far from providing a channel for real whistleblowers to get their story out about public corruption, your newspaper has for well over 6 years been abusing those real whistleblowers through yellow journalism by reversing the burden of proof to protect public officials and failing to investigate anything that a whistleblower reports to the SR.

Anonymous

What's a Common PLEAN? TYPO!

Anonymous

Matt, I think the key to all this is when and how the vote went down to take dispatch to the county. The commissioners had a regular commission meeting not mentioning anything about taking dispatch to the county and the next day, this thing with Nuesse went down also announcing dispatch will be handled by the county. The city commissioners need to be held accountable for this illegal vote. This was done in executive session or by some other means other than in the public eye. I think the way the commissioners handled the decision of dispatch was illegal. At any rate, someone needs to look into this situation of how the vote went down and if ALL the commissioners were involved in the decision making or was it just the "trio" who made the decision without the rest of the commission members. Go to the commission president and ask how exactly this was decided and see what answers you get.

Anonymous

There needs to be a "probe" of Westerhold-electricle probe that is.

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