Change is good

Matt Westerhold
Mar 23, 2010

 

The last paragraph from the Murman report executive summary recommends Kim Nuesse not be reinstated as Sandusky police chief "unless the city is prepared for the wholesale replacement of the command and support staff."

So be it.

Comments

Anonymous

$9.34 is more money than I make now. I would gladly accept $9.34. So what is your point? What wages will the Marina District pay once it is completed? What do the area water parks pay? How about Cedar Point other than the full time employees? What are the wages at some of the smaller factories in our area? So what is your point?

Anonymous

What is the point of having a casino if there are a small number of living wage jobs. Walmart employees can not affort to gamble and if they do, they will fall back into pverty and have to beg for gas and food money....that is the point. Of course no one has ever claimed that smarter people support casinos...but it is obvious that dumber people go to casinos given that the odds are all in favor of the casinos!!!

Anonymous

if hillary get the nomination, then takes strikland as VP, then I, chris "$400 haircuts in columbus twice a month" redfern, can get appointed gov like i did as state rep and county com! yipee! oh and trust me i know about 10% unemployment in my district, thats why i got a job in government to begin with, oh and my wife only pretends to be a lobbyist, she's actually inherated wealth so she plays at being a consultant to pass the time

Anonymous

Walmart employees already gamble because they buy Ohio Lottery tickets. Casinos have a better payout than the Ohio Lottery does. You have better odds in a casino than with the Ohio Lottery.

Anonymous

Yes, it's his second marriage for appearences and no kids in the first one. Was a neighbor and used to get some of his mail by mistake...all sorts of interestng magazines. Not the kind of stuff a healthy red blooded male reads if you catch my drift.

Anonymous

Not always the sharpest pencils in the box stores as evidenced by lottery sales and casino dreams....wake up!

Anonymous

Businesses such as Cedar Point, Las Vegas, Atlantic City, Kalahari, casinos and other businesses look to the outside people with money. How could a Walmart employees afford to go to Las Vegas, Cedar Point, Kalahari and other expensive businesses? Casinos would draw in people from out of state and from areas within the state. I cannot afford to go to Las Vegas and blow over $1000 on air fare and hotels but I can afford to blow $20 in a casino once in a while. Of course, I could blow my entire paycheck on drugs or credit card debt if I want. Maybe Ohio ought to outlaw credit cards with interest rates over 10%. I heard some credit card interest rates are over 24% and the poor people get saddled with these huge rates. Poor people will blow their money on drugs, booze, the lottery, credit cards or just legal crooks like predatory lenders.

Anonymous

He can't be appointed Governor you moron. The Lt. Gov would take over. Per the constitution of the State.

Anonymous

Redfern is in Columbus not Washington.

You guys prove the average American is pretty stupid when it comes to their own government and operates. Go back and take a government class would you please so at least if you make your stupid comments they would be correct.

Anonymous

What about the comments about the person in the Kelleys Island fire not having a smoke alarm? Why would you delete them?

Anonymous

...The stalwart 007 asked to have stuff deleted? So, she can attack whomever she pleases and be cool? But when someone 'outs' her, you delete those comments, at her request? That is garbage! Who is with me???

Anonymous

Credit card rates are currently being listed as high as 34.99% according to bankrate.com. If Redfern was a leader instead of a political stooge, we would have a usury cap at 12% as some other states do.

TT

I don't know. I should probably be on the fence here, but I think I'm going to have to go with you, "Wait..." I'm "on the fence" because I have used the "Report Abuse" option liberally since its inception. The thing is, I've used it almost everywhere I've found racism, personal attack/threats, unprintable words or phrases, or anything off topic - not just ones agaisnt me specifically. If 007, whoever they are, can ask once or twice to have a small handful of posts that unmask him/her, then I don't see why someone who has endured mountains of attacks (libel, slurs, threats, rude jokes) - like, say, Dr. E.B., must look at said mountain of evil day after day even after innumerable polite requests.

I was outed once; if you look hard on the Forums, you'll find it. I took more than my turn attacking Dr. Baumgartner, something for which I will ever be sorry and of which I will ever be ashamed. Only after I was outed by her that I decided to educate myself on who she really was and for what she really stood. The moral is: if you're going to make inflammatory posts (and sometimes I still do, I'm still learning), slander someone's name, and attack a person or a belief constantly, then you should prepare yourself for consequences beyond your control.

Anonymous

Well written, and yes this is a learning and self-restraint lesson. I do believe Dr. E.B. has much to offer and we should at least be listening. Once you go against the system, the system has a way of getting you out of it's way. Those who take a moral stand for what is right as opposed to what THEY want us to do, are the ones we should listen to. They've paid the ultimate price by being removed from their jobs, so they obviously stood up to the system.

Anonymous

If Murray is a Refern clone, then does he also support casino gambling in the Sandusky Marina District?

Anonymous

@ tt: First of all I have big shoulders and to set the record straight, I requested nothing. I am a firm believer of registering username and email address. If you remember crackhead asked why the posts directed towards me were deleted. I never actually saw them myself.Also tt, maybe the Register perceives you as the proverbial crying wolf, therefore ignoring your requests, since you state you use the report abuse liberally, just a thought. @wait: Why not pick something a little more suited as a user name other than a command, it makes conversation a little less strenuous.

Anonymous

I too have the up most respect for Dr.E.B. and can honestly say that I never bashed her verbally on the blogs or in public for that matter and feel for one that she was railroaded, and offers more knowledge than most of us can comprehend through all of her experience. I will admit sometimes I get a little caught up in the postings and sometimes maybe a little rough on opinions, but who hasn't. It's very aggravating when you have a constant level of grade school rants and finally enough is enough. I think the Register should implement

1. Constant username

2.Register email for them only

3.By implementing these standards, you alleviate people using your user name, which all of us that have one have been subjected to this. Plus all the replies with the annoying user name duh, or the first word in the paragraph. Then and only then will you see the blogs clean up and true intelligent debating will occur.

Anonymous

Cute? I'm a nobody? Why, because I work in customer service? So a golf pro is a nobody? Redfern is an idiot, the MOST unfriendly person that I've ever met. Period. He should be a grade school principal, not a politician(that's joke, in case you couldn't tell).

Anonymous

How about a new topic Matty Boy you and your fans have pretty much bashed this one to death don't you think. How about some new wisdom from that creative(?) mind of yours and Phares.

Anonymous

I have to agree that being forced to use a constant username and/or registering as a requirement to post of the blogs would be most beneficial. I also think certain stories should be blocked from comment. For example, the trash that was posted on the Calvin Harper stories was shameful. The Jensen tragedy also comes to mind. I realize what stories to 'block' would be aa subjective call, but something needs to be done. If Mr. Harper or Mrs. Jensen were a relative ofmine, I would be crushed to read some of the filth posted in the stories involving them.

Anonymous

People post comments because both reading and writing comments is entertainment. Some of the entertainment is good and some is straight garbage. Nevertheless, they're both entertainment.

2 EZ

Anonymous

The question is , will lameduck Chris Redfern endorse ringmaster Tomas Ferrell Jr.

Anonymous

Re to Lucille: Please explain Redfern endorsing Tom Ferrrell, for what may I ask? I thought it was funny that Ferrell would give up his county seat after all these years. What kind of democracy is it that all these people leave their seats only to get appointed without an election being held.

Joe

Redfern is the kid everybody hated in school, and wanted to beat up.

Anonymous

Both Tommy Ferrell and Chris Redfern have skelitons in the closet more than most politicians.

Anonymous

Tom is a old wolf in sheep clothing.

Anonymous

I think we have have seen the last of Redfern. He used his office and the people of this district to only take care of himself.He left a loving and loyal wife and children to marry a lobbyist, a Republican at that.Redfern has charged his living expense in Columbus to the Ohio Democratic Party. He has disloyal to a lot of people. It will catch up with him, it always does. He reminds me of Dave Geist a former Erie County Democratic Chairman who down in flames. Whatever happen to good and decent Dems.

Anonymous

Why would Redfern step down, He's been sponging off the system for years. I doubt if he's qualified to be anything but a politition.

Anonymous

Re: to Long Time Democrat : I agree with you on Redfern fading fast . I heard that the local Democratic party is split , being the real true blue Democrats using the name Country Club Democrats to the wanna be Republican -Democrats that use the party to get in office.

Anonymous

Isn't Redfern's wife a reporter for the Port Clinton paper? Or was that a past wife?

Anonymous

Redfern would make a good used car salesmen. Those used cars would be junkers that are bought at auctions, especially those cars salvaged from flood areas, dried out and sold. Imagine Chris running out after you to sell you a used car telling you to buy now because the car may not last long. Or maybe he could do those long info commercials on television at 3 in the morning trying to sell you courses on how to get rich.

Anonymous

Old Politicking Democats-Skeezers with a toupees/hairpieces

Anonymous

Anyone that has had hundreds of conversations (Chris Redfern) with Dennis Murray is very short sighted or lacks moral character in my opinion. The arrogance is very evident in politics around here. Just what we need....more of the same in Columbus!

Anonymous

Better watch out for all those "Old Politicking Democrats-Skeezers" they're liable to find some book making going on!

Anonymous

Hey Redfern! What ever happen to all those state jobs you promise to the Erie County people when you were running for the State Chairman? You lied again. You never took care of Geist like you promised. The only person you did take care of was the Republican lobbyist you left your wife for. You should be ashamed of yourself.

Anonymous

Chris Redfern is a cute little boy who was hand picked by Strickland. Strickland runs the Ohio Democratic Party not Redfern. He will fall in line and support Clinton like the rest of the Ohio delegates. If he does not do what Strickland tells his boy, he will be working for his Republicans buddies.

Roll over Chris.

Anonymous

Ought to look into the Ohio Dept. of Jobs and Family Services....They are sitting on their cans....ignoring the unemployed....They don't help the unemployed, they hinder them...actually ignore them....I think their motto is ignore them...eventually they'll go away

Anonymous

Only registered Democrats get the jobs. No jobs to Republicans. Let Bush find you a job.

Anonymous

His first wife was messing around on him and he has no kids. You people need to get your facts straight before you bash the man. There were also no promises of state jobs up here by Redfern in the last election. Why would any body want to employ you bunch of back biting morons any way? We will never get any thing done up here until you people lay off everybody and quit posting this false info. And the Democratic Party is doing quite well in Erie County these days under the great leadership of the new Chariman. Count up the county offices and see what I mean.

Anonymous

No doubt our useless Representative made that last post himself. He is probably quite shocked at the vitriol directed towards him in this blog. And here he thought he was fooling everybody.

Anonymous

Redfern has 2 children with his first wife. His wife was not fooling around.

He is a slime ball.

Anonymous

I can remember every office in Erie County was held by a Democrat. Good decent people who care about the average person. Not just the Country Clubers.

Anonymous

From my readings about Redfern, I see where he used campaign funds to pay future wife Kim $4,700 for the cost of living with her early last year. Redfern used another $12,800 in campaign funds to pay rent and utilities for an apartment in the Columbus Brewery District throughout 2006. The rent was $975 a month, and he wrote himself a $2,739 check to cover utility costs from a previous year. He also got more than $4,000 in travel reimbursement from the House in 2006. Maybe Redfern was allowed by law to convert campaign funds to his own use but was this MORALLY RIGHT? Will be beg for more campaign money when he runs for another political office? Why didn't Redfern save this money for a future political campaign or why didn't he turn it over to the Democratic Party which has campaign debts? Just because somebody can do things doesn't make it morally right. And from my readings, Redfern does admit that he is married to a lobbyist who is also a Republican. How wonderful to the special interest groups that a lobbyist is married to and in bed with Redfern. And Port Clinton continues to sink and the potholes just keep getting bigger and more numerous. So where is Redfern to help out our area? Maybe he is too busy rubbing elbows with the rich and powerful elite and ignores the peons that elected him.

Did Redfern report all of this money on his tax returns since he converted the money to his own use? Also I would like to hear more about his home in Columbus and this million dollar house that he and his present wife own on Catawba.

Anonymous

I'll bet the IRS would love to hear about all of this. Nothing pleases my heart more to see a jail cell door slam shut on a thieving politician that's in it for personal gain and no one else!

Anonymous

You are incorrect. Redfern has no kids and his 1st wife was messing around on him.

You know the Register is doing a disservice to this community by continuing this silly blog and all the false statements being made. Wonder if it would continue if he was a republican???

You know on second thought since this sorry rag of a paper is immaterial any more it doesn't even matter does it Matty Boy. How's your circ number these days??

Anonymous

Chris is a lameduck on his way out the door and that means we won't see him no more.

Anonymous

The Register is doing a great service to the community by exposing Chris Redfern's self centeredness and greed. Now if the Register would start asking questions about his role in obstructing criminal investigations of sexual abuse of children by the politically connected.

Chris' district is a pedophile's playground for good reason

Anonymous

To the ONE blogger who franticly keeps defending Redfern. How in God's name would you know that his first wife was messing around on him? Sources please.

Anonymous

Be careful what you ask for Chris, as you might recieve it just like this special treatment from the SR and its readers. Who will be the next target for the SR blogs.....Murray? Recall how this whole mess started with the news that Murray was expecting an appointment to complete Refurd's term and then the speculation about a possible Marina District interest to continue the casino gambling initiative for the city...let's not forget that there remains many unanswered questions....

Anonymous

Redfern was a little putz back in High School, then milked a "gravy job" after college as the "director" of Ottawa County Litter Prevention that lasted until he schmoozed his way into Darryl Opfers seat.

This is a guy that has NEVER had to work a "real" job in his life. NEXT!

Anonymous

Tom Ferrell would defend Chris, being he needs an endorsement.

Anonymous

So why were my comments taken down? I only posted the truth about Redfern that was already reported in the Toledo Blade, Columbus Dispatch and other Ohio newspapers. Did Redfern call and complain again? So Nicholas White, please explain why my comments were taken down about Redfern using campaign funds for his own personal use?

Anonymous

Mansfield paper just announced that SR 30 inside the city limits of Mansfield is being repaved at NO COST to Mansfield. What happened to Redfern serving Milan for 250. Guess he was too busy kissing up to Hilary.

Anonymous

Anti republican posts are deleted Anti Democratic posts are posted and kept up for weeks. Nice going Register way to show your true colors.

Anonymous

Nothing but a bunch of pot lickers running the Sandusky Register. Nicholas White is a hypocrite taking down my comments which did not violate the Discussion Guidelines. The SR will let Chris Redfern and other panty-waisted politicians decide what news the people will read. Read the news articles for yourself and decide.

http://toledoblade.com/apps/pbcs...

http://fairfieldgop.blogspot.com...

Anonymous

Amazing story and links that are clearly supportede by facts about the questionable use of campaign funds to support living "in" expenses paid by Refernd to his to his soon to be bride as reported by a major newspaper. How does such news go unreported by the local papers? Are the local papers too timid to shine a light on some very questionalble practices? Got to wonder how many lobbyists donated to the Refern's campaign?

Just Asking

For those of us who aren't in the inner ring of politics, why does Tom Ferrell need an endorsement? What is he running for? Something must be going on for him to give up his county seat that he is so intrenched in.

Anonymous

Blogging is here to stay, the media and politians alike hate it..Bloggers you and I can post anything we want and get a million hits on the story and there will be no backlash or being fired for going against a boss of a paper,magazine,etc.. blah blah blah bloggers are here and we are not going anywhere...got to love the World Wide Web..

Anonymous

Perhaps Redfern should take computer classes. and start blogging himself and set up a face book or myspace maybe someone will give a dam about him or Murray for that matter..

Anonymous

Yeah and after a while your blah blah blah goes in one ear and out the other and after that you are still a moron.

Anonymous

@ Sandsuky OG,

I agree with you that blogging is here to stay. However, two people went to jail (Bryan Dubois and me) for running a website out of Sandusky Ohio.

I'm still looking at 8 years for use of the internet to criticize the judicial process. My statements were far less offensive then what is said on these blogs. (See for example comments directed at Judge Fox in the Bellevue stories)

So there is a backlash if you irritate the wrong people (prosecutors, judges, police, lawyers)and that includes the local media who refuse to report on certain cases so the censorship of certain viewpoints contary to the status quo continues.

Anonymous

Hey Matt.....where ya at? Been quiet since Chris called ya.

Anonymous

vacationing with the police chief spending her "admin leave wtih pay" money.

Anonymous

When I read about the guy and his picnic table in Bellevue I thought of Redfern.

Anonymous

Elsebeth Baumgartner, I always felt you got railroaded anyways, sorry to hear they still try to censor us..but I won't be silent this city is screw'd up from the top down and the best person they hired they suspended go figure...I don't know the whole story with you tho...I loved the fact you are so out spoken..If you do jail time I'll write and send plenty of money your way no worries there..best of luck

Anonymous

King of Sandusky, yeah blogs are for the everyday joe to comment what they feel...as far as the murder that went down in Sandusky, wait another murder with no one charged..people say what they say don't try to censor us...we are here to stay..sorry, whens the last time you strolled down camp,hayes,jefferson streets at night by yourself...try sometime before you start hating on what people say about situations...King of Sandusky..LOL go stroll your kingdom

Anonymous

Don't be hitting on Elsebeth. I'll bet you'll send money. Check is in the mail Elsebeth!!! :)

Anonymous

Huh? ALERT! DEATH NOTICES!!!!!!!

Huh??

Anonymous

I agree...why is this an alert?

Anonymous

To Sandusky OG...LOL...whatever. If you want to write hateful, racist things on these blogs, go right ahead. How am I going to stop you? You write your opnions and I'll write mine...and mine happens to be that those types of posts are not conducive to any useful dialogue. These blogs aren't the place to post hateful, libelous, racist tripe.

And by the way, the name I use is a handle, not my title, you tosser.

Common Sense

I have an idea for your next blog since you have not posted in some time. What are my duties at the SR? With such a long time between blogging, I am wondering if you needed a "vacation" to come up with an idea on what to blog on next.

This one is a freebie, but the next one will cost you. LOL

Looking forward to your next topic, whether it be mine or one of your own.

Common Sense

Helloooooo Matt!

I read in the newspaper last week that your blogs would be a regular feature. What does the term "regular" mean? If you are inhiding for taking it on the chin from Redfern, it's time to gear up again. If you are afraid of the Sandusky force, let your readers take them on.

Hope to hear from you soon.

peanut59

Does the Register ever wonder if this blog will prevent people from cooperating for a story? If my kids were involved in something newsworthy and the Register wanted to do a story on it, I'd have to say no, because it doesn't seem to matter what the story is - some bloggers will write nasty comments and I wouldn't want my kids subjected to that. Even if they didn't read it, they could hear about it from someone. I've seen nasty comments about the most innocent stories . . .

Anonymous

Hey Matt, Why were my comments about Redfern taken down? All that I did was summarize what I read in other newspapers like the Toledo Blade, Columbus Dispatch and other news sources. Did Redfern call you again to complain about my comments? Hopefully Redfern reported all of those campaign funds on his income taxes. Hey Matt, why do they call Redfern "The Fern"? Ferns grow in "shady" places. Gee Matt, I was going to forgive you for posting that CCW list if you would report the TRUTH in our area. Maybe I was a bit premature in giving you "kudos" which I am now taking back. You can talk the talk but can you walk the walk? Don't worry about Redfern, he is just a typical panty-waisted politician. He will never compare to Marcy Kaptur who is a TRUE representative of our area.

Anonymous

Hey Nicholas White,

Please read the Discussion Guidelines again and again. I still cannot understand why you took down my comments. This isn't Nazi Germany or the USSR. Or is "Freedom Of The Press" dead in America? I have come to the conclusion that politicians will dictate what the newspapers will print. Sad.

Anonymous

I never thought about that comment before. I've been reading mean and nasty comments posted and I've read some very nice ones. Unfortunately, its the mean ones that prevail. I, like you, would not allow a story to be written about my child due to the fact that there truly are mean people out there. There unfortunately are people that feel the need to trash a young adult in this area and bring them down. So, maybe these blogs are a bad idea.

Anonymous

I don't know what you wrote, but you are free to start your own blog - then you can say whatever you want without fear of having it removed. This blog belongs to the Register, and if they remove something, they aren't trampling on your free speech. You can shout your comments from the street corner if you want.

Anonymous

Your self-righteous first amendment crap simply does not apply here! The Register is NOT obligated to provide a space for people to spew hate. If you take down this blog, you are not trampling on free speech. People are free to start their own blogs. Ahhh - but by maintaining a blog, you get to stir it up and use it to sell papers. Give me a break. You didn't start this blog because of the First Amendment!

Anonymous

Redfern is a little sissy. When you claim to be be a big shot, as Redfern does, you have to expect that your family and you are fair game. If it's too hot in the kitchen, the sissy should get out. If he would do that, we'd all be better off!

Anonymous

It would be a shame to see thought police type controls on blogs when there are only two basic abuse categories that are needed: 1) report abuse for obscenity and 2)report abuse for off topic comments that would include comments that hijack the blog when a blog begins to address a person's alleged adultery, spousal problems, or any perceived personal issues, persoanl orientations, or personal preferences.

Raising legitimate questions or statments of opinion should not be censored.

Purposeful misrepresentation of actual facts should be monitorerd, but not necessarily censored as most mis-statements could be easily challenged with another view of "the facts" by anyone who wished to access the blog so readers will best informed to develop their own opinions.

In the case of perceived or questionable allocation of campaign funds to cover housing expenses provded through a "live-in" arrangemebt with a lobbyist, if the facts are well established and also reported & documented by news sources, then let the truth and the breaking story ring out as was the case recently.

The SR, if not the bloggers, should tell the complainer to work on returning measureable results for his district to improve his political track record. OR, simply tell the whiner to get out of politics, stop trying to control the press, stop managing an image, and stop wasting everyone's time.

While "the fern" may not like the blogs, he now knows that all is not well if his voters can not wait for him to run out the clock as he takes care of himself first. A lack of productive leadership over the years proves how another wasted opportunity slips through the voters' hands whenever voters pull the lever for career polictians. More voters may be growing less trusting of "good ole boy" type politicans and their country club fiends.

Anonymous

free speech?? We don't have no need for no stinkin free speech. One minute for you!

Anonymous

Politicians have a lot of nerve stepping on free speech rights, but they will show up at your doorstep wanting your vote next time they run. They forget all about you until they need your vote once again.

Anonymous

Elsebeth never got railroaded she was alwaya a train wreck looking for a place to happen from the beginning!!!!!

Anonymous

To the poster at 3:52 PM. My comments were directed to Nicholas White unless YOU are Nicholas White. My comments had to do with "Freedom Of The Press" when little Chris Redfern complained about what Matt wrote in the blogs. I am not afraid if the SR takes down my posts. The SR has deleted many of my posts in the past. But what I was concerned about was Nicholas White's previous blogs, especially "The lessons of Deep Throat" where people put up factual information and angry politicians call in to have the comments deleted. All of the information is all over the internet on other newspaper sites. I guess it is all right if politicians use the newspapers to slander or spread misinformation about private citizens or even political rivals. I don't like when politicians dictate to newspapers what should or should not be written. Seems like Redfern and other politicians only want newspapers to write good things about them and not negative things.

Maybe you need to get a pair of reading glasses or you need better reading comprehension. I did NOT mention "free speech" which is an entirely different topic. And even starting up a website or blog to criticize government officials can get one sent to prison so "free speech" no longer exists. I have no idea why I have to reply to a bonehead such as yourself. I guess that I just had to lower myself to your standards.

Anonymous

When, Mr. Westerhold, is it free speech and when is it decency? Depends on who's side you are on , right?

TT

Nick, when's THIS vacation over?

TT

Comments gone again?

Anonymous

wow Know I'm being called a racist..now is that when you have no idea of my race nor did I say anything racist..I simply suggested you stroll the street of sandusky..And yes sorry I did get off topic..I apolagize for that..but please don't presume anything of anyone KING OF SANDUSKY

Anonymous

Do you have one example where someone was sent to prison for "starting up a website or blog to criticize government officials"? If so, I'll shut up. My point is everyone (including the Register) seems to think the Register has some obligation to maintain this blog. Its their blog. They can delete what they want or take it down all together without compromising "Freedom of the Press". Anyone can start a blog and that same person can take it down or decide what gets deleted.

Anonymous

Freedom of the Press mean the press can't be stifled by the government. It also means you're free to start a paper, and you can print what you want. Now if a government official talks to someone at the paper and they tone down or delete an article, the paper is free to do that. I'm not condoning that, I'm just saying it doesn't violate "Freedom Of The Press". Papers can print/delete what they want - that's Freedom Of The Press! Redfern's complaining to the Register in no way violates this freedom. In fact, Redfern is exercising his own freedom when he does that.

Anonymous

I commend you Matt for telling us all about the result of your Redfern blog. You didn't cover up what the outcome was of those comments. What I do not understand are the people that want to complain about a paper... saying it stinks or is one sided etc, but continue to read it. So who's the idiots here? If you hate the Register, don't read it! There are other papers out there that will give you the same stories as this one does... right? There I excersized MY right to free speech.

Anonymous

Does Chris Redfern want some Cheese with that Whine. Chris you cry us a stream-river wheezer when we vote in 2 Republican Erie County Commissioners this Election Year.The democratic party leads should have told you ,if you can talk the talk and can't walk the walk-DON'T WHINE & CRY. So if you can't Run with the BIG DOGS stay on the PORCH.Chris you are just like your democratic Buddy Tom Ferrell Jr. a real whiner.

Anonymous

Can't stand the heat then get out of the kitchen. Maybe if you actually did your job people wouldn't be so upset with you.

Anonymous

If Chris gets bad press then his campaign contributions will go down and he won't be able to live in his mansion. Boo hoo "Mr." Redfern. I have sooo much pity towards you.

tk

I once wrote a letter to the editor critical of comments made by Redfern. Redfern called me saying he had not made the comments as quoted in the SR. He also called the editor to complain, the editor then called me to ask where I had gotten my information. I told him I got it from the SR and ask him if you could not believe what the SR printed. It was a regular three ring circus all because "Little Crissy" couldn't handled being criticized.

Anonymous

Mr.Redfern : Presidential election year and you being the Chairman of the Ohio Democratic Party, must be a hard job knowing Hillary & Rover Bill can't catch - keep up with Barack Obama.We hear alot of talk about a split vote in the Democratic Party this Presidential election year.Chris you know John McCain is a real War Hero ( POW ). John McCain should visit the Ohio Veterans Home around the 4 of July-Independence Day so we can meet a past veteran-serviceman who served our Great Nation-Country

Anonymous

it's not free speech when you but stuff up here that is not true. Those are lies and the Register is a liar if they print them. Make the people do the same thing they have to do when they write a letter to the editor of this sorry rag. You wouldn't print a letter to the Editor that came from "crackhead" with no phone number and no real name would you Matty boy????

Anonymous

In my opinion:

10. Elsebeth

9. Perdusky

8. Anne X. Ation

7.

6.

5. Elsebeth - speaks her mind and uses her real name

4. Anne X. Ation - tunnel vision on schooling issues

3. Vladimir Pootin - Immature, but actually funny

2. tt - Knowledgedly covers a broad range of topics

1. Crackhead - I look forward to Crackhead weighing in on issues

Honorable mention goes to the Gyro Cart guys, who are funny but don't qualify for this list because they use different "handles" but the message is consistent, and hilarious.

Anonymous

Mr Redfern fairness isn't right-to-work and anti-labor .Chris you should read the Sandusky Register and see what's going on in your 80th Ohio State District with Union Labor . The Unions do have concerns that need addressed with the Democratic Party this election year.No. 1 being the outsourcing of jobs like the ECSO-FOP-JOBS at the Erie County Courthouse.Mr. Redfern 3 Erie County Commissioners on the board and 2 of them are Democrat.Democrat and president of the board Tom Ferrell is up for re-election this election year.

Anonymous

Looks like the democrates are imploding at all levels, national, state and local politics is always about the economy and jobs..not much to brag about here over the last two Redfern terms...

Anonymous

if a person receives a paycheck from the tapayer, is elected, or goverened by people who are elected, then one should accept criticism. many people draw from the public well. your dollars support their lifestyle. taxpayers have the right and the resposibilty to speak out. apathy has created the situation that sandusky faces. you question the actions of your law director. d. icsman,

salary: $106,000 yr. + benefits. (highest paid public servent in sandusky) yet the elected comm. never question his actions. why? this vehicle allows you that opportunity.

Anonymous

What about '007'? His non-sensical rants are sure to liven up any discussion board!

Otherwise, I like your rankings. You should set up a SR blog "smack off" (Props to the Rome show).

Anonymous

FYI:The only time the Unions see or hear from Chris Redfern is at election time, being he wants the Unions to endorse a Democrat or Democrats.Chris some of the Good Ole Boys Club Democrats are Anti-Union Labor and don't agree with collective bargaining agreements.Chris you should know what's going on behind the scenes ( Propaganda Intimidation Attemps- Tactics To Scare Union Members ).

Anonymous

Thanks for allowing a space for us to speak our mind. Really don't know what my problem was either, but if you did remove them, had to be for a reason. You should be able to remove remarks that are vulger, race oriented, sexist, or just plain out of line. I'm sure I've posted some things that I should not have, but I get caught up in this crap, too. I know of several where I mentioned names of SMWI Local 33 officers and they were deleted. Those guys know who I am, and they know how I feel about their sorry union, and their suit against the city. I read these news articles and comments a lot. Again, Thanks.

Anonymous

There is no way the Democrats should lose any election in Ohio this year. The country is in terrible shape. However, with cry baby Redfern running the show, McCAin will probaly carry Ohio. We've never had a Democratic state chairman hated by card carrying DEMS as cry baby Redfern is. If the DEMS win in Ohio, it will be in despite of the glory hog, Chrissy. Prissy Redfern.

Anonymous

In other words Redfern called you guys like the cry baby he can be at times. At least not maybe more people will notice how he acts.

Anonymous

So Mr. White, do you think that you’ve seen enough of the amateur song-and-dance and are ready to hook ‘em in?

Anonymous

what I've decided....you people that posted all this stuff about Redfern this week are all just jealous of him....jealous of his success....jealous of his intelligence......jealous of his wifey (who is a babe and also very nice).....

jealous of his youthful appearance and of his good looks.

So stick it in your ear and go back to your computer games or your caves or where ever you came from or reside. That includes you too Matty boy. He's where you all wish and dream you were.

Anonymous

How about this for an idea, let have 2 bloggers that use the same name all the time go on WLEC and have callers ask them questions on the air live. I don't know about you but reading what these people write I always wondered what they sounded like. Besides WLEC could use something new and exciting, plus let the bloggers on here pick and vote for who they want to speak to. Sounds like a great way to have some fun and get the city back in check at the same time and i'm sure WLEC will get plenty of sponcers, once it starts rolling. Also i'm sure it would produce the most hits on the blog pages. Hey Nick, this might be just what you need to impress Matt AND HIS BOSS AS THE NEW KID ON THE BLOCK!!

Anonymous

youre a f___ing idiot!

Anonymous

Chris Redfern should review the comments made on the recent stories about Sharrod Brown. There were few negative comments on him. Maybe Redfern should look in the mirror and see why he is getting negative comments. If this forum is putting pressure on him to be a better representative of the people, all the better. The SR is just making it a bit more difficult for elected officials to be bad characters. And, I say to the SR, keep up the good work!

Elsebeth

After battling incontinence while reading comments under Spirit Searchers...IMO..it's not even close. tt is #1.

Anonymous

I just want to say HI and Thanks to Karl Hungus, Elsebeth Baumgartner, Ralph.....

For always being so nice to me on these Comment Boards and Forums. I do sincerely apprecaite it very much. I know that I don't have as broad of a vocabulary as you guys do, but I am learning.

Thanks for stickin by me and with me.

Sincerely,

Leigh Ann/TOW

Anonymous

It is the voters who need to change and stop electing career politicians. When someone has not held a real job for most of their working lifetime, there is a greater chance that such a career politician will not best relate to what is taking place in the "real" world. That may also explain the "special treatment" expected by career politicians such a Redfern when he leaned on the SR not once, but twice over the same blog. Voters need to wise up and elect people who can better represent their interests. Blogging is here to stay and thanks to the SR and Matt Westerhold voters now have a voice!

Anonymous

THE DOWNFALL OF THE OHIO DEMOCRATIC PARTY IS CHRIS REDFERN. HE'LL TAKE TOMMY "DO NOTHING" FERRELL DOWN WITH HIM, AND PROBABLY BARACK OBAMA IN OHIO AS WELL. THE TABLE IS SET FOR THE DEMOCRATS TO WIN THIS YEAR. HOWEVER WITH THE PUBLIC'S HATRED OF "CRY BABY" REDFERN, I'M AFRAID THE DEMS HAVE AGAIN SHOT THEMSELVES IN THE FOOT.

STRICKLAND HASN'T FIGURED OUT YET HOW BADLY REDFERN IS SEEN BY OTHERS.

Anonymous

Hey Chris how is your picnic table doing?

TT

Appreciate the tip of the hat there, Dr. As I come to know you, at least through real study of your situation, I'm glad I was able to have my mind changed about you. You're one brave lady. Apparently my religiosity is under question by people that have never heard the foundations of their homes settle at night (hence the "bumps"). I'm as Cathy-lick as ever, and I know that any ghost besides that which is Holy doesn't exist. The best part is that even that God tells me that this is so, I know if from pure sense anyway - God hates fools, and really doesn't like people trying to disturb the souls of the dead. If you believe in God, you wouldn't believe in regular ghosts anyway!

Anonymous

to report abuse. The post on here at 2:10 by Erie County Watch Dog is bull crap. Take it off Matty boy. Or since it is against a Democrat it's ok?? Or do you have to check with Phares before you do something???

Anonymous

Imagine if all Bill Clinton or John Kerry had to do to get people (or the mainstream media) from making comments about their spouses was to call the editor and cry. Most people would call fair comments about elected officials' spouses fair game - especially when those spouses represent an industry that is paid to interfere in the relationship between elected officials and the constituents they represent.

If comments are vulgar and pointless, that's one thing. But if people are questioning how the head of the Democratic party and and an elected official balances being married to a lobbyist, I think that's a fair and decent question.

And one that deserves discussion.

Anonymous

tt: ‘If you believe in God, you wouldn't believe in regular ghosts anyway!’

It’s pure superstition no matter how you care to slice and dice it.

Anonymous

discuss it jerkwad but show a little respect for an elected official. I 'll say it again you guys are just jealous of Redfern jealous that he is succesful and jealous that he has things like you morons don't... brains and a life. The remark about him and the picnic table is ridiculous. It should be deleted. This blog should be run like JJ Huddle is. The Huddle is constantly monitored by administrators and if you break the rules that are set up you are off.....forever!!!!

Anonymous

You are so correct So. Everybody should show respect for our elected officials whether they are Democrats or Republicans. I just wish that all of the bashing against Bush would stop.

Anonymous

Democratic sex scandals and elected officials.A good Erie County Commissioner would keep that thing in his pants/ trousers and not try and think with it.

Anonymous

The democratic party is positioned to replace Redfern with his clone. Anyone impressed with Murray's handling of City Commission afairs is in a vacuum. He's been on the commission for going on three years and is still lost. I'm a life-long Democrat but I'm voting Republican for State Rep. this year.

Anonymous

Nicholas, Forgive me I did not respond to your initial column. However, let me say this. You may be the beacon of hope to a newspaper whose professionalism and objectivity disappeared long ago. In leiu of that, we subscribers (and I am no longer one and won't re-subscribe until Matt Westerhold turns at least 12 years old) who have been reading this rag for 30 years, have found our level of frustration with the edititorial department, to be higher than the Sears Tower. The lack of objectivity and juvenial ranting, from the editorial staff, have illicited a like response from their readership(a response they seem to be surprised at). In years past, we have only been able to respond in snail mail form, which we all know found its demise in the SR shredder. The ability to respond immediately allows us to voice in support or disapproval. As for those who leap over the top, the ability to monitor and censor their comments is absolutely necessary. I believe a "membership form" containing Real name, address, phone, legitimate email address and screen name, with a login required, might eliminate much of the off-color remarks and personal attacks. I'll say what I feel but also try to keep it civil. However "IT IS YOUR RESPONSIBILITY TO SET THE TONE AND THE CONTENT OF YOUR ORATORY IN ORDER TO INSURE CIVIL DISCOURSE". If you can not remain objective, expect your readership respond likewise. Good luck in your endeavor with the SR. I suspect you won't be there long as you are a different breed! A breed the RAGister will not support for long, as you will be a threat to their longstanding reputation as a biased, liberal, subjective news outlet. That's my opinion and I'm sticking to it until the SR gives me reason to change!

Anonymous

Well if you were a true blue Democrat you would never vote for a Republican. Especially for someone like Enderle. You think we don't get any thing up here now just send Enderle down there to Columbus. They will laugh at him.

Anonymous
Anonymous

RC: ‘The ability to respond immediately allows us to voice in support or disapproval. As for those who leap over the top, the ability to monitor and censor their comments is absolutely necessary.’

Your writing is articulate and you appear to understand some of the nuances of journalism.

You must know that newspapers and newsmagazines as a business and as you knew them are dying, and that the web is the apparent future of the news media.

IMO, any interaction by any readership that the old media can promulgate is a positive.

To cut off the opinions of even the great unwashed is a questionable exercise and could be at the future expense of this small town newspaper.

These people are feeling their way – allow them the experimentation for the time being.

Kelly

Of course Elsebeth uses her real name. How could she play the martyr while incognito?

Anonymous

Mr. White is always watching - give him a good show.

Anonymous

FYI: ED ENDERLE WILL FIX THAT MESS ,THAT REDFERN MADE WHILE HE WAS REPRESENTING THE FAMILIES OF THE 80th STATE HOUSE DISTRICT.MR. ENDERLE HAS DONE A GREAT JOB REPRESTING THE PEOPLE OF HURON TOWNSHIP WITH LOW TAXES AND CRIME.TRUST ME ED HAS THE KNOWLEDEGE & TOOLS TO MAKE THE 80th DISTRICT A GREAT PLACE TO LIVE & WORK LIKE HURON TOWNSHIP.

Anonymous

Sorry to say, I'll be voting for a Rep. as well! When Politicians conduct their business the way they have been, it's no wonder the people are sick-n-tired of it all! We're too vote for "MORE OF THE SAME"? As far as I'm concerned, I plan to EXERCISE MY RIGHT TO VOTE for who I feel is best! Someone, please give the def. of a "true blue Democrat"! To "Stacy", I agree w/you 100%! To "So", jealousy has ABSOLUTELY ZILCH to do w/my decision! I'm sooooo TIRED of that being used as an excuse! Learned a VERY long time ago, it's a waste of EMOTION & TIME! As for the respect factor, maybe it's time our local politicians start showing it for the people they represent. It is after all, a 2-way street!

Anonymous

I always vote the straight Democratic Party ticket no matter who is running. I don't vote for the person but fully support the Democrat Party. I wish that we had more Democratic candidates like Robert Byrd and sometimes Democrat like David Duke. I will support Redfern, Murray and Ferrell because they are all about jobs. Jobs are what this area needs now.

Anonymous

It is truly sad when newspaper pander to the dregs of life. Allowing hatred and stupidity to be published in the name of the First Amendment just dumbs down our society. Shame of the Register for acting like an irresponsible childish rag. Gee, where is Annette LaCross? Who'd thought we would say that?

Anonymous

I'm voting Republican this year for the first time in my life. I didn't leave the DEM Party. It left me. I could never be comfotable with a party led by the arrogant, and self proclaiming Redfern. He's the biggest wanna-be in America!

Anonymous

Democracy; n pl -cies A form of government exercised either directly by the people or through their elected representatives; rule by the majority; the practice of LEGAL, POLITICAL OR SOCIAL EQUALITY! Even the vote of us DREGS (?) of life count! As for Robert Byrd or David Duke, are you serious? As for jobs here in Erie County....the only jobs they seem to be concerned with (LOSING) are their own! ARROGANCE is truely UN-ATTRACTIVE!

Anonymous

I have a novel idea. Why don't we all just register as independents and vote for the best qualified candidate. This way we would not have to say, "I vote Democrate or Republican no matter what". It is time we break up this good ol boys clubs of Democrates and Republicans and vote for the best candidate no matter what party they may represent.

Anonymous

Because someday Redfern is going to be Prez and you can say I knew him when.

Anonymous

I am a Democrate but I NEVER vote party line only. Anyone who votes strickly party line does not have the best interest of their county, state, or country in mind! People should vote for who is best for the job, NEVER party-line. This State Rep race is an example of that. I will be voting for the Republican candidate there because he will do a better job.

Another case where I will be voting Republican is for the Clerk of Courts. Barbara Johnson, like Chris Redfern, has not been doing her job and she needs to go.

So, please vote for the person who is best qualified for the job, not party-line.

Anonymous

Mr. Westerholden,

As I fully agree with the First Amandment and value anyone's right to speak, I don't necessarily think that means that a platform needs to be offered to all who choose. Especially an anonymous platform. There's nothing in the First Amendment that states "all shall be provided a conduit for their rhetoric". Please don't defend this social experiment's legitimacy with the First Amendment when the truth is... the blog is good for business.

Anonymous

Really? Should you be serious about that comment, just another Dem. I won't be voting for! TO: Nightstalker, likin' the way you think and am SERIOUSLY considering switching to Independant, although I would like to think I am already INDEPENDANT in my way of thinking as well as my decision-making process.

Anonymous

"...fully agree w/the lst. Amendment, I don't necessarily think that means that a platform needs to be offered to all who choose. ESPECIALLY an ANONYMOUS PLATFORM....What a freakin HYPOCRITE, cause I noticed you didn't SIGN YOUR NAME!

Anonymous

Once again, people on here are incapable of seeing the point. I'm not condemning the blog. I'm not condemning Mr. Westerhold. I'm merely saying that the real reason why the Register defends the blog is because it is extremely good for business. No more. No less. I have seen the vicousness of the bloggers on here. Would it really be a smart decision to be the ONLY blogger who identifies themself? However, if it became necessary to list one's real name in order to blog, I still would.

Anonymous

I must disagree with you, at least personally, as I am quite capable of understanding your POINT! Okay, the blog is good for business. That's what business is all about, to be profitable, correct? However, I too have seen the viciousness of the bloggers, as well as have had personal friends verbally attacked here. I have, on certain occassions identified myself, as I felt it necessary to speak out against the vicious, bigoted and racist comments being made, asking that they be removed! I find it rather odd that the bloggers are asked to REPORT ABUSE, when it is clearly evident in the writings. You'll find it on many of these different story sites. I also find it ironic when a comment you have made, not abusive and usually of the political nature, is removed because it's content just doesn't jive w/the powers that be! So be it! Isn't that what this particular comment site is about, BALANCING FREE SPEECH WITH DECENCY?! There is an old saying... you should never discuss sex, politics and religion..... When it comes to these topics, a persons' ideology is quite personal, and it seems to always lead into an argument! No two people are ever going to always agree on certain things, so how 'bout we just agree to disagree, RESPECTFULLY? When push comes to shove, I appreciate the opportunity to put my THOUGHTS out there.

Anonymous

Agreed. I think this is a prime example of what the blog could and should be. Although we may disagree, no one has resorted to the sophomoric personal attacks that I see so often on here. It is merely a debate and a way to be heard. And, hopefully, a way to find common ground.

Anonymous

FYI: Chris redfern chairman of the Ohio Democratic Party and representive of the families of the 80th Ohio State House District knows the Democratic party has some bad apples/Democrats.Mr. Redfern problem with the Register's blogosfhere, is not wanting the true Blue Democrats-Unions-Citizens-Public to find out about the Democrats that vote against the True Blue Democrats-Unions-Citizens-Public,in a free society we have to make sure we see the whole panorama of the human Democratic behavior behind the scene and ask ourselves what a True Blue Democrat is to the Public-Citizens-Unions.Chris you know Tom Ferrell Jr. isn't a True Blue Democrat and it behooves you to know the True Blue Democrays can see what's going on behind the scenes this election year.

Joe

It is sad that people attack Redfern's wife. What's the point? He's a big enough a**hole on his own.

Anonymous

Why don't you try taming down your sentence by using a few periods instead of one long run-on sentence cause its just too hard to read the way you write it without any periods and you don't make as much sense that way cause of your run on sentence so that way people could understand better what you are trying to say and I wish I could think of somemore things to say to keep this single sentence going but it's late and I'm just running out of things to think about but I'll keep trying if you want me to...........................

TT

Amazing, Sage. Do you ever come into contact with a situation in which you don't say one thing only to do another? If not, that explains while you're still here. I thought you were just going to watch, remember? Don't worry -your credibility's never been in question here; we all know you have none.

Anonymous

I agree wholeheartedly that whether or not your a republican or Democrat, you shouldn't run with your straightline. I voted majority democrat last election, but voted for Enderle. A family member of mine ran into some problems and I felt that I should give my representative a call. I couldn't believe the condescending way that Redfern talked to me. I told him I had rights , his voters whom funds his paychecks come from shouldn'y be talked to in the matter he handled with me. He did nothing but be a smarty pants, so I told him where he could go. I have a mouth , for the time being enjoy free speech. So until the next election, every friend, relative or even a stranger that breaks out with a conversation about politics is going to be told of my experience. It will be effective. Redfern is just biding time, trying to look like he is doing something, if he was truly about jobs, why are more people than ever in Erie county losing their jobs? Have you noticed the fast food industry? DOMINATED by older folks displaced by losing their jobs. Waking up every morning getting ready to go to a job that pays $6 an hour, working their tails off and wondering how did they get to this point in their lives at their age. I personally know 6 people that have lost jobs, 4 of them were 50 somethings, 3 lost everything they had, house etc. Redfern is all about eye candy, he has bigger things on his agenda. If you want your job, no matter how secure you think it is, you's better listen carefully and VOTE. I'm not promoting anyone on this blog, I know who I'm voting for. But as far a Redfern goes....I WANT HIM OUT. I can say that because I've dealt with him.

I want a future for my kids and grandkids, this is the beginning of the toughest times for all of us, think about it, how many people do you know that has lost their jobs? Read our foreclosure auction site at the Erie county sheriff website, I bet you know a few people on the list, if not in this months listings, keep watching, you'll recognize a name.

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