Change is good

Matt Westerhold
Mar 23, 2010

The last paragraph from the Murman report executive summary recommends Kim Nuesse not be reinstated as Sandusky police chief "unless the city is prepared for the wholesale replacement of the command and support staff."

So be it.

Comments

Anonymous

If the entire police force had an issue with Nuesse, why they have gone to their union and the union would have file a grievence with the city manger. That didn't happen.

Anonymous

OK Matt,

Instead of writing blogs, why not do some investigative reporting with truth and facts? Or are you too afraid of bringing up the real truth about your buddies? You can't have it both ways.

Anonymous

Maybe Chief Nuesse isn't experienced enough or doesn't know how to communicate with Unions.You see this alot today with ( State-County-Municipal- Department Heads ) not honoring Union contracts,a legal binding agreement between the Union - Union Employees and the State-County-Municipal Governments.Department Heads know it is unlawful not honoring Union Contracts and that is when binding arbitration is a tool with a mediator or arbitrator first.The State-County-Municipal Governments are liable under law to honor the Union Contracts or deal with binding arbitration.In a free society ,we have to make sure we see the human behavior behind the scene and that State -County-Municipal Department Heads honor Union Contracts.

Anonymous

Nick,

What a LIAR and HYPOCRITE that you turned out to be. You took down posts that followed the guidelines. LIAR!!

Crackhead

typical. no accountability. come on nick, don't tell us one thing and do another. that would make you an erie county official.

Anonymous

If you're given the opportunity to meet with Gary Packan while he's in town from Texas, do so, privately of course. He'll give you a real honest picture of what's going on in Erie County and all the fatheads that keep screwing things up. I'd take your current home off the market if I were you. Until the voters of Erie County clean house with all the corrupt politicians and family names running this County/City/Township, nothing will change...it will only get worse.

Anonymous

It is Easter give it a rest

Anonymous

The resident ranters are SO predictable in their reaction when no attention is paid to them - just keep wasting pixels on blather and perhaps someone, anyone will notice their self-proclaimed genius and respond. LOL.

Hope springs eternal eh?

There’s the hoop, care to jump through it yet once again?

Anonymous

If Nuesse is taking on the Union, then she is doing a better job as a leader than most people know. Unions are a large part of the problem and always obstruct solutions!!!

Anonymous

I thought the city is governed by seven commissioners.

Anonymous

I hope Dan Kaman and Dave Waddington will step up and provide the leadership we need.

Anonymous

The city is actually run by 3 people..Murray, baxter, and Icsman. Kline is puppet that gets the message across.

That's the whole problem in a nutshell. Murray has the other commissioners scared. He is the largest festering sore in Sandusky's financial cut, and needs to be removed immediately before we are no more. The other commissioners that don't step up now before this elimination process starts, remember you will too be on the outside looking in..

Anonymous

So, what if Murray had better sense last month and supported the police chief instead if the Iceman? Do ya think he might have helped himself by abstaining from the mischief instead of shooting himself in the foot again by teaming up with Iceman?

Crackhead

if that is the best you can do mr. moonblood, i am sorry. if you can't tell us why or justify your feeling this way, what's the point?

Anonymous

Murray had committed political suicide and the people will in fact see that he is held down from acquiring the state representatives job. It's just a matter of time until all corrupt ones here in our bankrupt city will be liable for their actions. I honestly feel the people have reached the end of the rope, now it's time to cut the rope from those not deserving. As key officials become exposed and removed, you will start to see our city start to flourish once again. We first must remove the cancer that is killing her.

Common Sense

Sage Moonblood,

Why are you repeat posting if that is just what you seem to opposed Also, what do you care about the ranters? Is it that they take precious time and space away from you? Or is it that you wish you had some of their wit and backbone to stand up for what it is they believe?

Anonymous

Waddington and Kaman leaders? Kaman flunked 4th grade. They try to manage from a coffe table with the same four or five people every Saturday morning? In six years they have made the lights blink down town, cleared a path to a marsh (canoe launch), gave Cedar Point a tax break and gave the City's water away to their buddy Tom Ferrell and his followers. Good luck with those two ever leading anything. It always helps to draw attention away from oneself by attacking your subordinates (City Mangers). How many more can we go through until the voters catch on who is really inept?

Anonymous

I'll take a double dip, and I think you forgot a dust bunny over there in the corner....

Anonymous

Maybe Tom Ferrell Jr - jeff Ferrell- Chris Redfern will all endorse Dennis Murray Jr as your next representative of 80th State House District.

Anonymous

Don't you wish you had the 'wit and backbone' of the Rhodes Scholars that regularly post on these blogs? Bah!

That, said, why were the original posts removed?

Anonymous

Good doggies (patting on head)!

Crackhead

no one seems to know, which only leaves speculation. i wish mr. white would tell us. on the very story that states the register doesn't remove posts, all of the posts disappear. what the? hey White--- where's the story on the water in erie county? bad wells all around erie county. and they are slowly poisoning my water in Margaretta township. take the bull by the horns.

Crackhead

hey sage- can you tell the fine audience why you would choose to go by a moniker of sage moonblood? do you know it's the same name as sylvester stallone's kid?

Anonymous

When the Ethics Commission ruling comes down, Murray will be forced to resign under duress and that will br the end of at least one old boys network ethics problem.

sick and tired

IMO: Jeff Ferrell should resign, he's not accomplishing anything. It seems like he is afraid to discipline or put anybody on administrative leave. Is moving forward with ball fields on Bell Ave, just because they have already spent the money on the property!! Come on, that is such a POOR excuse it's not even funny. He should resign!

Anonymous

You are a complete idiot. What do you think somebody can do in less than three months as a newly elected Township Trustee?? Why don't you vent some of your anger at a President who in 5 years has killed 4000 young people??

TT

Sage,

Why are you posting repeatedly to bash those who post repeatedly? At least those you're attacking have original thoughts. Why do you attack the "wit and backbone" of people who obviously possess mountains more of those traits than you? Why pick such a random time and board to post one comment and then repeat it? Why attack others for doing exactly what you do, especially when your victims are so much more intelligent and make more pertinent points than you? I notice that for your assumed superiority to these people, you don't make any attempt at a rational, feasible answer, but would rather just repeat, repeat, repeat the poorly-constructed insults. Why is that?

Anonymous

Jeff Ferrell is just like his brother Tom Ferrell Jr,being he can talk- the- talk but can't walk- the- walk. Jeff will support a bad department heads just like his brother Tom has done.In a free society,we have to make sure we see the whole panorama of the human behavior behind the scene.

Anonymous

I could be wrong. But I thought the role of Commissioners was to act on legislation, ordinances and such. They are a Legislative body with no Administrative roles or reponsibilities. The City Manager is hired to do the Administration. Or in a Mayor form of government the Mayor would be the Administrator who hires a Service Director. If I am correct, who in the world do they think they are and why does someone not fill them in.

Anonymous

Who thinks this blog effort may be a really lame attempt at parody? In any event, I think that the Lessons to which he refers have little to do with journalism or integrity.

TT

Amen to that, Dr. Why bother taking up screen space?

Anonymous

Chief Nuesse a little advice from my own LIFE-NIGHT-MARE experience in Erie County, town of Sandusky "A nice place to Live":

As a former first and last time union member, I worked for an EQUAL OPPORTUNITY employer in erie county for ten (10)years and was hired as a disabled veteran after my discharge from the Gulf war in 1991, after 14 yrs of dedicated service. A non union O'S------van's company in Huron Oh. was granted a $10,000 a year tax break for hiring me as a vetern, My aveage work week was 60 hours. Unfortunately, I became more ill from side effects of the Gulf War Symdrone and Post Stress Truama Disorder (P.S.T.D.) and other Illness covered by my contract and F.M.L.A.. the Company was sold after the union was voted in. The company formerly known as L--r, fired me twice for absentism after my 10 years were up.

The first time I was Terminated:

I was exonerated by the Ohio dept of jobs and service and given unemployment, at my appeal hearing officer could not believe what had happen to me. I was rehired only after I filed a report of complaint against both the company and the union with the CIVIL RIGHTS COMMISSION IN CLEVELAND, however I did not recieve any back pay, and was now $14,000 in debt to child support after a 14 month Grivence.

I called every lawyer in Erie County, no one would assist or represent me, because the union was involved the reply from

M r--y -M r--y, we don't sue unions. After a call to the Civil rights Comm. I was rehired.

The Second time I was Terminated.

After a Two year Grivence, the regional 2-b union office in mich. informed me to go get my own lawyer, that my case had no merit, a disable veteran with no merit, and behind two more years now at a $1000 a month child support order.

As of 2003, I have been among the statatics of other AMERICAN VETERANS: unemployed, homeless, separated and soon to be divorce and I still face my disablities every day, I paid my union dues,where was the representation I paid for?

Now, I'm a non traditonal student almost 50 yoa at B.G.S.U. in Huron. I decided I'm leaving Erie Co. after this semester to "BREAK THE ERIE COUNTY CURSE/SPELL/CRUD/ETC" the longer you stay the more you GET SICK or lose.

Did I mention the two year investigation conduct by the Erie County Veteran office? That a whole new episode.

I'm living proof.

If a Veteran can not get a fair chance in Erie County, How about a Police Chief who was not born or raised in Erie County, Sounds like a good movie to me how about you?

P.S. Has anybody seen my stolen car, I need a ride to school?

GOOOD LUCK,

Anthony Wright

Anonymous

Eureka! Dawn has FINALLY broken as evidenced by the last two posters on the point I have repeatedly been making.

See, ya repeated it enough and eventually somebody gets it.

Anonymous

@ Sage,

So Nick and you both swallow?

Crackhead

sage- you never answered my question. why stallones kid for a moniker?

CM

here's a story for you, maybe you can help me..." i would like to know what's going on there..we were approved for a loan from the city,(Owner occupied Rehabilitation Program--thru the state) they were supposed to install new windows, roof etc. in our house.....that was in 2006...in 2007 we didn't hear from them..it's now 2008 and everytime we go to the housing department we get "NOTHING" no-one has answers..the people that worked there, are no longer there...something happened to this funding, where is the money?? the only answer we receive is "you are still on the list"--"we are waiting for the funding"--ok, i just want to know what happened to last years funding??? does anyone have a answer??

so, what are these commissioners doing about this?? or are they to busy doing things that don't apply to them??

we just want some answers???

maybe the SR can get us some answers??? "

i posted this in another forum, reaching out, for someone to help me...can you help??????

TT

Sage danced around a lot of questions. Reading comprehension might not be his forte, or maybe through some delusion of grandeur he thinks he might be better than us. I've got breaking news - by posting in order to bash posters, you've really defeated your purpose.

Crackhead

CM - don't look to the register for help. don't fool yourself into thinking they care about anything but the controversy on these blogs. i have asked several times to look into erie counties' underground water system and also the Margaretta water problems and they seem to choose not to do a story or answer any of my questions.all they really have to do is check what the EPA has written, i did. apparently it doesn't affect enough people. heck, mr. white won't even say why all of the posts were removed from this site where he is discussing that posts wouldn't ever be removed for disagreements.

CM

well, crackhead

i probably have to agree with you, but i hope both of us ARE wrong!!! i'm just trying to get some help, trying to get answers....someone knows SOMETHING!!!!!

but then again, look at todays media...that's all i'm going to say about that.....

reader

Time for something new here !

Anonymous

Again, sorry you've had to go through this, and thank you and God Bless you for your SERVICE AND SACRAFICE! I understand how you feel about LEAVING ERIE COUNTY!

Crackhead

don't say that. they'll delete all of the posts and we'll have to start over, again.

TT

I think lil' Nicky's thrown in the towel. Still, it's five blog entries too many from him.

Anonymous

let us not just assume that Ms. Buamgartners tirades are completely oof base. the groups she attacks have the power to suppress negative press.

Anonymous

Congrats Matt, you've arrived as a blogger. Redfern was the only pol who ever complained about what was published about him at Erie Voices. But when offered the opportunity to respond he curiously remained silent.

In my experience he's a lot of hot air. He can claim he's not leaving early but that doesn't mean he will not leave his office early. He's just credible or very trustworthy in my opinion.

Anonymous

Correction

Congrats Matt, you've arrived as a blogger. Redfern was the only pol who ever complained about what was published about him at Erie Voices. But when offered the opportunity to respond he curiously remained silent.

In my experience he's a lot of hot air. He can claim he's not leaving early but that doesn't mean he will not leave his office early. He's just NOT credible or very UNtrustworthy in my opinion.

Anonymous

Funny how the story about Redfern and Murray has changed since the SR took on the "good ole boys" and the police chief witch hunt came to light....

Mary

I love the democrates, they are so honest.

tk

Redfern has had hundreds of conversations with Murray? No wonder he hasn't been representing the district. He doesn't have time for us peons.

Anonymous

When did you contact Redfern and he didn't respond to you?? What kind of help did you or do you need that he "didn't have time for"?? Examples please??

Anonymous

Chairman of the Ohio Democratic Party Chris Redfern will surely endorse Dennis Murray Jr. & Tomas Ferrell Jr.being Democrats.But the( Big Question ) is will the Unions give them a Union endorsement.In a free society,we have to make sure we see the whole panorama of the human behavior behind the scene.Some Democrats have burnt to many bridges and can't go back.

Anonymous

Setting aside politics for just a moment...

You've obviously been a journalist for some time now. Just like writing an article, why not call Rep. Redfern, before going to press/posting your blog? That's just responsible journalism.

You could've talked to him, then posted your thoughts a day or two later.

It sounds like you realize this, but only future blogs/articles will be a true indicator.

Also, if you meant Super Delegate, why not just say it? Why Super-democrat?

Again, politics aside, it truly does make you seem as though you're "trying to be cute," especially given past blogs and editorials written by you.

Anonymous

Redfern is a spoiled brat who was appointed to every position or office he has ever held, thereby running as the "incumbent" in the following election. His dismissiveness and ill-will towards constituents who call themselves Republican is galling. His blind loyalty to anyone or anything labeled "Democrat" is obviously part of his quest to continue to seek higher office. Chris Redfern is arrogant, a shameless self-promotor, and on top of that, an incredible snob. He is a Democrat loyalist who will do ANYTHING to further the agenda of the "party elite." I'm sure the wheels are already in motion to prep him for Marcy Kaptur's seat once she retires.

Anonymous

Chris Redfern should be representing the families of the 80th Ohio State District. Chris just a month or so ago i read an article about the Job Store Closing in the Sandusky area.Chris you had to know about the Job Store being our representative or are you to busy being the Ohio Democratic Party Chairman.

Anonymous

He IS trying to be cute! Been...for quite some time. I don't find him "cute" at all!

Roger

Annoy a conservative- Think for Yourself!!! :o)

Anonymous

Matt said that he is new at blogging. No excuse. You are a newspaper man and you are to verify your facts. As for Redfern, he is mad because you are on to him about stepping down early so Murray can slid right in without all that nonsense of campaigning and working real hard for the vote. It is getting harder and harder for Murray to wiggle out of office before that ethics complaint comes down.

Anonymous

The hell with Redfern. I have no respect for "Mr. Democrat" who is nothing more than a blowhard POLITICIAN. Redfern only cares about himself and his political career. Redfern has done nothing for our area. Redfern is nothing more than a big blabbermouth who blabs a lot but shows no actions. Kudos to Matt.

Anonymous

Redfern doesn't know why people expect him to step down? Because that's how Redfern got the state rep's seat--Darrel Opfer stepped down and Redfern was appointed. In fact, if my memory is correct, that's how Redfern ended up being appointed to the seat after someone(again, Opfer?)vacated the seat. So, now, Redfern wakes up on third base, and thinks he hit a triple.

Crackhead

what again is wrong with politics today?

Anonymous

Being a party boss and a "good ole boy" politician, it is not surprising that Redfern expects that everyone will want to kiss his behind all of the time or call him before printing anything to give him the drop on everything so that he may continue to manipulate the press as well as his supporters or adversaries by manufacturing his spin responses. What kind of "real job" has Refern ever secured without "special" treatment? Good for you Matt. No need to regret that you did not play Refern's game. More voters are becoming sick and tired of self-serving "good ole boy" politicians like Refern & Murray. Hope the SR can stand the heat and keep the heat on the good ole boy network.

Anonymous

Chris Redfern Chairman of the Ohio Democratic Party. Remember last election year when you endorsed a well known Republican named Jerry . Jerry was running for Perkins Township Trustee and you were the Ohio Democratic whip/wimp and endorsed a well known Republican.In a free Democratic society,we have to make sure we see the whole panorama of the human behavior behind the scene.

Anonymous

Redfern : Do you want some cheese with your whine.

Anonymous

Sometimes the SR is more entertaining than the National Enquirer......nuf said....

Anonymous

Crackead,

" what again is wrong with politics today?"

The same old crap that has been wrong with politics since day one. Maybe you are just paying more attention these days?

Anonymous

Sure hope Redfern continues to read this blog. He's not the most admired character around, is he. (hee-hee) Quite a bruise to his enormous ego I'm sure. Redfern ABSOLUTELY manipulates the press, and publications like the Port Clinton News Herald are only to happy to assist him in his quest for favorable press. Like his hero Bill Clinton, Redfern has no soul. He is a whimpy pair of shorts with a bad haircut.

Crackhead

you are most certainly right about that Cpt Gutz. if mr. redfern wants a little respect, i say we give it to him as soon as he lists all of his accomplishments right here. start with the day he took office. it shouldn't take long. and the only way that murray will get that office redfern has , will be the same way. it will have to be given to him because from what we have seen as a commissioner, he's unelectable to that seat.

Crackhead

while we are at it, have murray list his accomplishments right here (as commissioner). WHAT HAVE YOU DONE FOR US LATELY?

Anonymous

Funny...what Chris said about him leaving is opposite what Dennis has been saying.

Anonymous

Well now you have what you have wanted from the beginning... a Democrat bashing forum that you can control who gets to post and who doesn't. Hope you are happy. Yellow Journalism in the Hi Tech society. Congrats Matt.

Anonymous

Hey Redfurn, I personally think you are a LIAR. You as all of us here know how you acquired your offices, and it wasn't by being intelligent. We also know your boy Murray doesn't stand a snowballs chance in hell of winning the State Representatives office (through the election process), just from some of his covert antics here in Sandusky to state a few. He has in fact committed political suicide. The really sad part about you and Murray is both of your apathetic attempts on using the democratic party roll from years gone by, to today with your obtuse prospective outlook of what a real democrat stands for. You Redfurn and Murray alike in my opinion shouldn't even be allowed to hold public office, since the truth isn't within reach in either of you. Furthermore all true democrats over the years can see how the party of democrat has almost borderline socialism with your covert antics.

In closing , we the readers and taxpayers will indeed be watching very closely to see if you in fact appoint Murray, and if you don't appoint him, I assure you that you will totally amaze the voters and readers for once telling the truth!!

Anonymous

QUOTES by Redfern: “We now have a national reputation for corruption.”

And this one: “This is not just about coins. It's about a pay-to-play system that has been going on in Ohio for years. Since I got here in 1999, it's been an open secret that if you contribute money, you get the state jobs you want and the state contracts you want.”

So what will Redfern do about the ongoing corruption? All talk as usual and no action.

To: To Matt wrote on Mar 27, 2008 9:58 AM. This is NOT a Democrat bashing forum. I voted for and strongly support Marcy Kaptur as she is a TRUE Democrat that helps our area and people. So what has Redfern done for us?

JOBS! JOBS! JOBS! blabbermouth Redfern preaches. All I see Redfern doing is making sure he has a job for himself. BLAB BLAB BLAB, all talk and no action. How about a Casino for Port Clinton to save our city? A Casino would create lots of jobs and money for Port Clinton. Unless our trade agreements with China and Mexico are amended or scrapped, there will NOT be any jobs.

Redfern just loves to be in front of the cameras. He loves the limelight and loves to feel famous and important. He has a superiority complex. Check out these 2 Youtube videos. There are other Youtube videos but these two show blabbermouth Chris in action. The first video shows Chris "trying to be cute."

http://youtube.com/watch?v=RNw1v...

http://youtube.com/watch?v=WJ0H8...

Anonymous

Ohio Democratic Whip/Chairman of the Ohio Demococratic Party Chris Redfern.Matt should call the well known Republican Jerry Baumgardner and ask him about you endorsing him last year,when he ran for Perkins Township Trustee.Remember ?

Anonymous

FYI : Chris Redfern will never compare or be of the high class of Democrats like Marcy Kapur. Marcy is a true blue democrat in high standing with the citizens-unions of her district.

Anonymous

There can't be a casino in PC because the good folks of Ohio won't allow the bad sin of gambling in our state not becauase of any thing Redfern has done or not done. This is what I'm talking about.... bashing without the facts.

Anonymous

Well, Redfern needs to get the laws changed. Why would anyone pay $50 Million to the state to get a Casino into Port Clinton? Port Clinton needs help NOW! Check out this link.

http://www.aproundtable.org/news...

MARBLEHEAD -- Details of the state Legislature's proposal to legalize gambling in Ohio should be available within the next few weeks, according to state Rep. Chris Redfern, D-Catawba Island.

Redfern was reluctant to discuss specifics of the plan but said the state would auction seven gambling licenses for $50 million each to "development corporations." Once a license is sold, the developer who buys it has the right to build a casino hosting "traditional" gambling. Traditional gambling, he said, involves slot machines and table games.

He said, however, it will be up to voters whether they want a casino built in their community.

"The framework rests on the people who vote," Redfern said. "It won't be going into places it's not wanted."

Paying $50 Million to Ohio sounds like a "pay to play" scheme. How about charging $50 Million to corporations to bring jobs into Ohio? Makes sense?

Hey Redfern, do the job that you were elected to do. We need a Casino in Port Clinton NOW!!

Anonymous

Else, so how much did you win with these "card counting abilities"? Also, as far as your electability for a judge or prosecutor position, do you have any criminal trial experience, ie have you defended any criminals from indictment all the way through the end of a jury trial? If so, how many cases?

Anonymous

So if money makes some people do funny things, is the casino license sale to 7 ohio sites the reason someone is now having ethics issues? Think about it, the Marina District fever was about having to push an agenda for condos for "new residents" when all along the people behind the cutain may have been playing to bigger money ambitions and looking for a way to soften up a community to sell the casino proposal as step two for windfall profits.... if a condos for casino scheme is in the making, it will backfire bigtime in this area. Can't trust the "good old boys" on anything they say when it comes to money and economic development.

Anonymous

Now let me get this straight! Good friends Dennis Murray & Chris Redfern got together to plot Dennis's campaign, but they didn't discuss the political ramifications of each of the political issues currently taking place in Sandusky and Erie County and how Dennis should position himself?

Come on Chris!

Anonymous

How long does it take to connect the dots...? Does anything smell fishy here? Does the police chief witch hunt play into anything related to casinos and the Marina District?

Anonymous

I wouldn't be a surprised that all of this rukus centers around the Marina District as they have always wanted a casino in town to replace the jobs lost here. You can bet Murray and Redfern are up to no good. Redfern is coaching Murray every inch of the way. They think they got this planned out as long as it all stays under wraps until all the players are in position, and that is why Murray is running for state rep to continue with pushing for gambling in Ohio. Condos are not going to cut it and there has to be something else going on we don't know about.

Anonymous

When will Sandusky's citizens & voters be informed of the Ohio democrats' legislative plans for casino gambling in Ohio that could place a casino gambling in Sandusky?

A casino gambling law that will be introduced in the next few weeks appears in a story quoting State Representative Redfern and that story should run in area newspapers becasue a story is now available online at

http://www.aproundtable.org/news...

Anonymous

FYI: The Big Hotel was talked about at the Marina District meeting at Sandusky High School last fall/ election year.The Big Hotel/Casino is the part of the MD Plan that wasn't etched in stone.They said the the MD plan could be changed/deviated from the original plans that nothing was etched in stone and concrete being ,the location of the condominiums-side walks-hotel- indoor ice skating ring- trees.The planning development team showed you what something could look like but said things could change.

b

Well, thanks for considering what we've written.

Anonymous

Why is it necessary to have a another hotel when Chesapeake is running as a hotel and it isn't running at full capacity as yet unless they are going to introduce gambling? Wouldn't this be a duplicate of planning with a hotel planned for the Marina District? I'll bet there is another set of plans on the drawing board as we speak. Everything in a development agreement is subject to change as long as both parties agree to it. Look what has happened to the Chesapeak agreement. They keep telling us they would like to build the casino (oops, I mean arena) at the Sandusky Cabinets land.

Anonymous

On the Register's "forum" page, registration is required and there aren't as many of the "nasty" comments as you see in the article blogs. I for one would prefer to see registration so that if someone steps over the line, moderators can ban them for a period of time or forever. I think these blogs would then be much more productive to "discussing" the stories in the paper. Essentially, it is up to the Register to determine what they want for this website since it is their property.

Common Sense

It's good to see that you will be monitoring comments. I agree that some are downright rude. You get that with anything. Some people are never happy!

Anonymous

Somehow I knew Freddie wouldn't last. Now we have another new guy to break in with new ideas. SR wants the bloggers to cool it but SR is allowed to do their own thing. Matt will have to set an example. It is this simple: If you don't want the bloggers opinions, just don't make it available for us to blog on it. I would hate to see a few of the bloggers ruin it for the rest of us. If you have the ability to ban the repeated obnoxious bloggers, that is your answer, but you must lay down some rules without infringing on the first amendment rights.

Anonymous

Think there are trust problems with the city commission now, wait until voters wake-up and learn that a casino is coming to town to support the Marina District development.

Anonymous

Yes on the casino and on the Marina District development.You sound like the watch dog that was spreading all the proaganda about the MD.I bet your the guy that was worried about that old tree being cut down behind the police station near the pier.

Anonymous

Gyros and cake on me!

Anonymous

@ Lesbian Lawyer:

Why would I have to practice criminal law when my experience was in far more complex civil litigation? Further the role of a county prosecutor or judge is to properly administer in all phases of justice not just the least simplest areas such as criminal given all the plea bargaining.

If one's only experience is in the criminal justice arena (especially as a prosecutor or public defender), that person usually has no abilities as an effective administrator and little to no abilities in the larger and far more complex and important areas of civil law.

Locally, we see this with Baxter and Judge Binette. Judge Binette was so inexperienced with civil law and running an office that the taxpayers had to hire a second magistrate (an attorney who also works for Murray and Murray-no conflicts there) for him. Also Baxter refuses to properly ensure compliance with all laws including those laws governing expenditures of public funds. Thus the gross ineffeciency in Erie County government because judges and prosecutors usually are drawn from those lawyers who couldn't succeed in the private sector.

Let me give you an example of the low standards and inexperience of area attorneys and prosecutors. I recall being present as an attorney arguing a civil motion in the criminal case of State v Krista Harris seeking to disqualify Dean Holman as special prosecutor in her case because of ex parte communciations with Baxter and Harris' allegations concerning misconduct. (I had appeared pro bono strictly to handle civil motions as Ms. Harris had a court appointed lawyer on the case.

It was a well drafted motion with extensive exhibits and many witnesses called for the hearing. When I was removed from the case without a hearing, Krista Harris' court appointed public defender openly paniced in the court room. She spun about and exclaimed she's never had to argue a motion in court before with people present. Ms Harris had to discharge her for her incompetence.

Needless to say that important motion was never heard and 6 years later The US Sixth Circuit used the motion to grant a convicted murderer the right to file a second habeas corpus petition due the reported misconduct of Baxter contained therein.

My point is if a court appointed attorney can't argue a simple civil motion concerning prosecutorial misconduct without panicing because people are present in a court room, I shudder to think about how many people she represented are doing time for crimes they did not commit.

If only that court appointed lawyer back in 2002 had done her job. Ms Harris would not have done 5 years in prison, and Kevin Baxter would have been under a serious federal investigation years ago.

Anonymous

Anonymity tends to breed brutishness and a lack of civility. And considering the source - poor manners originate from an inferior upbringing.

Thanks you for thanking us in regards to our commenting about the comments.:)

Anonymous

You still are not responding to critiques about on line story selection. This forum should be (if you are true to a newspaper's mission) to discuss ideas and topics of public concern. The power of the press shouldn't be abused to invade and sensationalize the private matters of private citizens to drive your on line advertising rates.

Invariably it's stories addressing problems of private citizens that generate the outrageous comments. Also this site is manipulated to create false impressions of integrity within the SR.

Case in point: A forum topic was started on the Bellevue matter days ago. http://forums.sanduskyregister.c...

I posted in response and agreed that such matters do not belong in newspapers to be sensationalized. Then somebody posted early yesterday in your prior blog concerning comments that the defendant was an employee at this newspaper. Around 9AM on March 27, 2008 in the forums I stated that my opinion on the story would change somewhat if in fact the defendant was an employee. My point was the SR has a long history of tolerating sexual misconduct within its own ranks and undereporting cases when the poltically connected or powerful are involved.

Next I challenged you about it in your prior blog. My post started a humorous exchange that was not hurtful to the defendant's family because it wasn't highlighted as a story in of itself on line.

This morning I clicked on your third story "Bellevue Man Accused of Public Indeceny" wherein it is admitted the man is employed by the Register. Comments posted there started yesterday afternoon (3-27-08 after 2:00 PM well after my posts in your blog and forums questioning the publication in other newspapers and his status as an employee.

However the story claims you posted (published) the story originally on March 26, 2008 well before I posted my forum comments. If one checks your hard copy no such story exists in the March 26, 2008 edition. Within the story you claim to have published on 3-26-08, you admit the defendant is employed by the SR

Predictably the story generated a lot of hits and the comments for the most part do not add anything to the important issues raised initially in the forums. Instead the defendant is now publicly humiliated at his workplace and his family subjected to additional trauma as a result.

Please adopt the standards of other newspapers. Have posters provide you an email address and password for a particular alias but allow them to post anonymously. Please confine your on line story selection to stories of public concern such as the actions of government and limit the opportunity for people to abuse the power of the internet to harass private citizens.

In those rare instances where a story on a private citizen does raise issues of public concern be mindful of your responsibility to assist people harmed by posts to hold the actual posters accountable by providing email addresses to a person who complains to you. People will police themselves if they know they will be ultimately be responsible for what they post here.

Anonymous

When the MD issue was on the ballot, there was no mention in the ballot language about Battery Park & Surt's Up being used to support a casino, only residential condos, not rentals. If the property is used for other purposes there will be big problem with voters who are against gambling. Are we now being told by 'Voter" that casino gambling in Sandusky was the Sandusky NOW plan all along?

Anonymous

That is the problem with Sandusky and Erie County, we can never really know or can trust what our elected officials like Murray,Stahl and Ferrell are really up to.

They work over time being devious and can raise enough money and union support to get someone like Fuqa elected, over sell a project like the MD or destroy someone who gets in their way like Chief Nuesse.

TT

Thanks for thanking us...about commenting...on comments...Are you sure that's the best you could come up with? I don't believe this was any more insightful than the stuff you take week or more to write. Anyway, in my misplaced hope that you'll respond in a timely manner, or at all, from now on, here's something from two entries ago that for some reason you haven't gotten around to answering. Enjoy:

Others have asked you to remove libelous information from these comments. Look below for your best example; I should know - I mistakenly took my own part in posting unsubstantiated nonsense about the Dr. I notice that many pleas to remove libelous information, that themselves appear on this very comment board, are ignored. Why is this? Don't you think you should be consistent, and look into ALL these pleas equally? Wouldn't it make sense to comply with this request coming from the likes Dr. Baumgartner since she does it without anonymity, here on the comment board, and instead of immediately threatening legal action, politely asks you time after time to watch what's being posted about her? Can you please do more than 1 response every week and half? Can you please tell us the REAL number of phone calls from angry public officials you receive over these comment boards? Can you tell me why Register writers can crank out story after story with not much more than rumors with no new information day by day, and yet these public comment boards demand a level of journalistic integrity not held by the Register staff? Can you tell me why some honest-to-goodness opinions (phrases that start with "I believe" or "IMO") are deleted, since opinions and beliefs cannot be legally miscontrued for libel? "

Anonymous

The SR would still not be able to control registration. All I have to do is go into yahoo or hotmail and create an e-mail account "elsebethbaumgartner@yahoo.com" and it would be a valid account so when I post, I could say I was Elsebeth and post some outrageous claims (just using you as an example Else since your famous on here). Then when I get banned by the SR because Else calls in and says that it wasn't her, I just go create another account under a different name and start all over. There is NO true way to control every poster on any site.

Anonymous

When you distill all comments down to their essence. You will find that although, some (and maybe me) have offended others. But, if the "others" are also "Anonymous", little harm is done as with comments directed a tt. However when comments are directed at a named individual that may be a different story and a monitor can easily address that. These comments seem to be a new nationwide trend by many if not most news orginizations. I appreciate the anonymity and support it. It adds a whole new dimension to the paper, makes it more interesting and in my opinion is a poitive influence on the community.

Anonymous

@ Anonymity,

I agree with you concerning personal attacks on named persons versus two anonymous posters insulting one another. This is the essence of my comments concerning the Register's story selection placing the trials and tribulations of private citizens into the public domain. For example the Huron Cheerleader advisor and her family are defamed and harmed by the nasty anonymous comments directed at her by name. On line story selection wherein anonymous comments are permitted should be limited to stories involving public officials or public figures.

@ Registering.

I realize that persons can create emails accounts under another's name. But the fact remains that an email address does provide a lead to the indentity of the actual poster. In your example if somebody adopts my name, Yahoo will assist me in idnetifying the person because it is a form of identity theft.

I still think my solution is a good one as it is used by most respectable newspapers. Persons can create whatever anonymous on line handle they want, but they must have a verifiable email address to post. As part of the terms and conditions the SR makes it clear to persons that if a private citizen (not a public official or pulic figure) complains of libel or harassment the email address will be provided to that person for recourse. This relieves the SR of liability for defamation if they remove the posts and assist the victim in pursuing their rights.

Anonymous

Good post "tt" and I admire your candor about admitting to attacking a known private person like Elsebeth in the past. I don't know you as a person but in the past, I just didn't like you because of your attacks on a known private citizen. But now I like most of your comments and am even beginning to like you as a person even though I do not know you at all. I am judging you by your comments.

To Registering: Good points too but one should not be allowed to use a private person's name or even a similar name as their own. Currently nobody has to go through the trouble of creating an email account and a name or "handle" to post comments. But registering a unique name or handle would stop other people from hijacking the name. This would prevent several people from using the same name. "Ralph" (me) has been used by other people on the news blogs as has the name "tt" and other names or handles.

To Anonymity: I also agree with some of your postings. You can still be anonymous by registering. Your IP is identified whether you post by registering or not. And many people can use the same computer and IP address but the question is WHO made the comments? If a crime was committed online, then a person can possibly be tracked down but it would take a lot of time and expense.

Good post Elsebeth, I could not have said it better myself.

I don't ever try to be nasty with my comments but sometimes I really get angry with people. If someone attacks me or people that use their real names, then it is my nature to go on the defense or offense and use some not so nice words. I can't ever recall attacking a known private person who use their real names on the news blogs or on the forums. There are a certain group of people in a certain profession that I dislike as a group but not individually. There are exceptions. But anyone who is anonymous and attacks known private people or other anonymous people will get insults from me. And some of my comments have been deleted but I would not call my comments really vulgar, maybe just crude or even childish at times.

How can I insult an anonymous poster who to me is "fictional" or does not exist? Sure a real person did post the message but would that person post the same message if he/she were known and not anonymous? An anonymous person to me is the same as an "actor" in that the real person does not exist just like the character that an actor plays in a movie is not real. I have formed opinions about actors who always play sinister roles in the movies. That person could be a very nice person in real life but I stereotyped that person because of the sinister roles that he played.

The Sandusky Register also has a way of making very nice and honest people look like sinister people in the way that the SR reports the news. Also the SR can make some very sinister people appear as very nice and honest people. The news media has a way of influencing the minds of people about certain people or topics. They can make a mountain out of a mole hill or make a mountain appear as a mole hill.

Anonymous

IT SEEMS TO ME THAT mr.redfern HAS BEEN FLYING UNDER THE RADAR FOR A LONG TIME.HIS HOMETOWN IS FLOUNDERING IN IT'S OWN RECESSION.NOW GOING ON 15 YEARS OR ALMOST AS LONG AS HIS TENURE AS A POLITICIAN.POLITICS WILL GET YOU MONEY AND FACETME ON TELEVISION BUT THAT DOES NOT TRANSLATE INTO RESPECT.I REMEMBER A FEW YEARS BACK WHEN mr.redfern SAID HE WAS WORTH EVERY PENNY THAT HE GETS PAID AND THAT HE WOULD NOT TAKE A PAYCUT TO HELP THE STATE OR ITS CITIZENS OUT.HE COMES CRAWLING FOR VOTES AT ELECTION TIME AND THEN GOES BACK TO COLUMBUS AFTER GETTING WHAT HE WANTS.I AM A DEMOCRAT BUT I VOTED FOR ED ENDERLE.WHY? BECAUSE AT LEAST MR.ENDERLE KNOWS WHAT HARD WORK IS.SOME PEOPLE THAT HAVE WRITTEN IN KNOW THAT mr.redfern HAS BEEN HANDED HIS POSITIONS.NAMING HIGHWAYS FOR FORMER MISS AMERICAS AND GETTING ON THE 6 O'CLOCK NEWS FOR BEING A QUOTE UNQUOTE superdelegate MAY FILL YOUR PLATE,BUT IT JUST GOES TO SHOW THAT ONCE AGAIN THE PEOPLE OF OHIO GET WHAT WE PAY FOR.AN EMPTY SUIT, A NICE HAIRDO AND POSSIBLY THE NEXT GOVERNOR. GOD HELP US ALL.

Anonymous

yo! matt, question,what are the chances of you jumping ship and starting a republican newspaper in sandusky?

Anonymous

I am already registered on the forums so I have no problems with registering again to post comments onto the news blogs. Anything that I have posted in the news blogs, I also would have posted onto the forums.

But what can the Sandusky Register do about IP addresses? My son uses my computer as does his friends or my friends when they come to visit. If he or his friends or my friends post some vulgar comments onto the news blogs, will my IP be blocked because of what other people posted using my computer? And what will you do about dynamic and static IP addresses? Some people with dynamic IP addresses (changing IP addresses) can keep on posting vulgar comments that attack private citizens.

One solution is to have 2 forums. Keep the original forum where people can start any topic that they want and post comments and continue to call it the FORUM.

Post your online stories with a link to a second forum site and call it the NEWS BLOGS where the Sandusky Register posts the starting comments (news story) and people would need to sign in with a name or "handle" and password to be able to post. It would really cut down on the libelous comments and garbage that gets posted. Sure I found some of the garbage comments were funny and I enjoy a "spirited" debate online with others.

Make people register to post on the NEWS BLOGS. I have no problem with it. It will really cut down on the libelous comments against private citizens and will really cut down on the XXX rated posts. Plus the SR will not have to spend too much time monitoring the comments or waste time to delete 400 posts per week. And I still get to criticize public officials such as Chris Redfern. :)

Anonymous

those of you who have written about chris not working for his state rep. seat, and suggesting that it was just handed to him on a silver platter need to take a little lesson in state politics....

a term-limited rep. leaving his or her office is completely entitled by law to step down early and appoint a prospective candidate in their seat. this is VERY common, and happens on both sides of the isle, both dems and republicans. notice that i used the word CANDIDATE and not state rep. because the person being appointed STILL HAS TO RUN FOR THE SEAT AND GET ELECTED BY HIS OR HER DISTRICT IN THE GENERAL ELECTION.

ALSO, it's not the standing rep. that appoints, it's the caucus of the party. so to imply that this is a case of special treatment and that chris was just handed everything he's gotten is not only incredibly ignorant and misleading, but also undermines all of the hard work he's undertaken on behalf of his district AND the democratic party to get where he is today.

he wasn't handed any of his terms. rather, he won them on election day...

FOR THE RECORD:

2000 election:

Chris Redfern (D) fended off Joe Woods’ (R) challenge 64%-36% to earn a full term.

2002 election:

Chris Redfern (D) defeats Tom Lendrum(R) 55%-44%.

2004 election:

Chris Redfern wins, unopposed.

2006 election:

Chris Redfern (D) defeats Ed Enderle (R) 62%-37%.

also, chris has made no statements regarding stepping down, so to speculate and suggest otherwise is simply perpetuating hearsay, small-town gossip, and is frankly, quite pathetic...

speaking of pathetic, Matt, you might want to get your facts straight before you attempt to defame and vilify the subjects of your blog. another helpful hint...quoting slave-owners from the 1800's isn't very effective in attempting to get your point across...

Anonymous

What does everyone have against casinos anyway? How could Sandusky get any worse? There are no jobs around here except sub-standard $7-$8 an hour jobs. You can't support a family on that! Not everyone has the resources to relocate to where the jobs exist. Not everyone can afford to go to college. Those manufacturing jobs are not going to come back! People here want to work, but there is a lack of well-paying jobs.

Casinos would bring in well-paying jobs to the people in the community who really need them. Not to mention all the tax dollars that could be generated from the casinos instead of the working citizen. There would be no need for school, library, and city levies. Sandusky would become vacation land year round. Small businesses would have a fighting chance with massivly increased tourist traffic.

I understand the concerns people have about gambling problems. I know gambling can ruin people's lives. (How could they get any worse then they aready are in some cases?) I think before bringing in the casinos, it would be important to educate our community about the dangers of gambling. As far as people with existing gambling problems; there are already several venues where people can gamble. We have the state-sponsered lottery from which we basically see no benetit. (Now the state wants to bring in Keno to bars and restaraunts. Whopee!) You can bet on the ponies on Cleveland Rd if you want. Greek Town Casino is only what, two hours away? So what's going to stop someone from gambling anyway?

Still worried about drugs? It's already here. Still worried about prostitution? It's already here. Organized crime? It's already here.

Our community, along with others in the "rust belt" is dying. That sound you here is our economy going down the drain. Drastic change is needed before our community collapses into a quasi-welfare state!

Anonymous

I want to see a Casino come to Port Clinton. Why do people worry about gambling? Poor people already blow their money on the Ohio Lottery. A Casino in Port Clinton would bring "tourists" into the city the way that Cedar Point brings tourists into Sandusky. Get real people, the good paying factory jobs are gone.

Anonymous

If anyone has had any experience in typical casinos outside of the Fremont strip in Las Vegas then you know that the only people who profit from casinos are the owners, not the workers who work for minimum wages....drink some more KoolAid if you are already brain dead to the problems that come with casinos.

Anonymous

True, more $8 an hour jobs but better than no jobs at all. Better to gross $300 a week than nothing or be on welfare. That $300 a week can save a home from foreclosure. Plus look at the taxes that could go into a city's fund. Better a Casino than a bunch of condos or a water park that is doomed to fail.

Taxes from a Casino are better than zero taxes to help an ailing city. Why is Las Vegas such a rich city? I like Kool Aid during the hot summer. :)

Anonymous

Does anyone really believe that the postings that have been up for two weeks are in the purest form of the word BLOG?

I certainly don't, it has been too extreme and malicous to be considered a web diary or log.

There is an old saying that I beleive should be held in this forum also, it says..

"You have a right to swing your arm, but when your arm reaches the end of my nose your right to swing your arm stops."

Seems to me that the posts have been allowed and tolerated to reach the end of someones nose.

I ask why?

Has sensationalism been worth the pain and the suffering of many, by a few.

To be tried in the court of public opinion and crucified is not the American way.

If we disprespect each other so distinctly then why should other countries not attack us also.

If registering is not the way to go to blog, then why do you need to add your email to report abuse?

Registration shouldd be manditory even if only to make people 'feel' accountable in some way.

Anonymous

@ Educate Yourself,

I've lived in Ottawa County since 1979. Chris Rdefern started in politics by first obtaining is masters in poly sci from BGSU and obtaining a government jon in recycling. When Darryl Opfer was elected State Rep. Redfern was appointed to Ottawa County Commission. When Darryl Ppfer was term limited Redfern was appointed to Opfer's seat. Opfer was then given a job he was completely unqualified for in economic development and the slide in Ottawa County accelerated.

Do not insult those of us who know his record and his character. He's a professional politician who cares only for himself.

Anonymous

Above it says "Several of you brought up registration. That might be an answer, but it really might not. To actually verify a person's identity is very difficult and requires measures no one would like. It is always an option, however, and one we will be looking at closely."

So how hard is it to create a registry with usernames and passwords, all verified by a working email address. I run a website and I can tell you it is not hard at all. However, it will lower the amount of hateful comments, thusly lowering the number of hits the Register will get. It is all about money and ad revenue, not about what is socialy responsible is it Mr. White? As long as Jep Bloor and Mark Yocum have money rolling in why should the Register care about doing what is right....

Anonymous

when u look in the staff directory thingy it is the Web Sales Manager, Tracey Elson who is making the dough, not the two you mentioned. She's laughing all the way to the bank!

Anonymous

I agree with "Wait, WHat?" as far as running a web site with registrations.

If a person has to log in with a user id and their own password, it will also prevent others from blogging under someone elses id.

also you can follow a thread much more efficiently and you will eventually see the personality of the blogger and be able to avoid them.

It is not responsable for the website to allow this type of unrulieness.

Anonymous

are give a licsence to practice law. The problem I have, is we're the ones they're PRACTICING ON!

Anonymous

So the slide in the national economy did not hurt Ottawa County?? The slide should all be blamed on Darryl Opfer?? Great conclusion easy to see why you can no longer practice law.

Anonymous

Is Elsebeth Baumgartner????????????????

Anonymous

Good Job Elsebeth. I have lived in Ottawa County all my life and know that Redfern has consistently been appointed to ALL of the offices he has ever held prior to actually having to run on a ballot. Of course, then he always run as the "incumbent", doesn't he. The man indeed has a superiority complex. And you are right on, he is a professional politician who only cares for himself. The Republicans need to put someone on the ballot who is respected and fairly well known. Redfern IS BEATABLE. He nearly got beat by John Kosa a few years back.

Anonymous

A-M-E-N !!!!!!!! Sickening!

Interesting

Has anyone seen this blog? It is from Nuesse's son, very interesting.

http://www.sanduskyregister.com/...

or go to search word on SR home page and type in Nuesse's name and all the stories will come up. It's the story from her ex-partner.

Anonymous

Blogs are fun, it's a great way to convey your thoughts and insight. It offers us an outlet to support each other and often offer helpful suggestions to problems. The nastiness that often surfaces here often makes it difficult to see the insightful posts. It takes a lot of restraint at times to NOT post offensive comments.

When I compose an email while I am hightly irritated, I have made it my practice to NOT send it until I have rethought what I have written for at least an hour, often I simply delete it, knowing I wrote it in anger.

Maybe consider putting a one hour delay on these blogs, giving the writer a cooling off period. Then they can decide to post it anyway, or delete it, seeing it for the nastiness it is. Thanks for trying to clean it up, and don't give up.

Anonymous

"Hot heads and cold hearts never solved anything."

Anonymous

Sheesh!

Who’s got the time to read all that bombastic egotistical drivel put out by some?

Do they believe that they are being paid by the word?

Obviously there’s some confusion for some between ‘comments’ and ‘tomes.’

Anonymous

Of this Elsebeth person whoever the hell she is. Talks too much to be anybody important and her comments are the most sophmoric I have ever seen. Can't the SR limit her to maybe one comment a day. Or maybe shut her pie hole altogether??

Anonymous

You are not alone in regards to your feelings towards Elsebeth. She is very important just ask her!!!

Anonymous

I would rather read educational tomes than a bunch of stupid comments from nitwits.

Crackhead

Sage, you impress me with your big words and your pretentious knowledge of the English language. funny thing is, you actually never say anything. you seem very critical of those that post and yet never really seem to have a view of your own. i've asked you before to discuss the issues we are talking about and share your views. go ahead, its free. ah, no matter, people that cannot opine are as easily ignored as those of us with something to say. oh, and again, why stallone's kid? just curious.

Anonymous

I told you several weeks ago, you've toned down your responses, and they are more worth reading. You're posts have matured into something I read, instead of something I blow past. Hopefully the Sandusky Register blogs can morph into good reading.

Common Sense

It is interesting that Sage Moonblood once again rises to the occasion. Las time I read your "comment", you were busy putting others down. If you don't like what you read, move on.

Anonymous

Redfern is just a politician and one of the worst kind. He only wants what makes him look good.

My first encounter with Redfern was when he came to a Perkins school board meeting and promised to work to fix school funding when he could. He could not then because he had no power yet in the House. So we re-elected him. Then he could not because the Democratic leadership did not make it a priority. Now he is the head of the Dem. party in Ohio. Then he could not because he needed a Democrat as governor. So now he has one. Where are the changes? All talk and no action because, if he acted, he would actually have to take a stand and could be held accountable for it.

He only wants to look good. That is why he called to complain to the Register. Why has not called about school funding, the mess with the US250 bridge in Milan, the flooding in Perkins and Bellevue, or many other problems in our area that need the attention of our elected state representative?

Anonymous

Redfern went from a modest modular home to a million plus home located in The Bluffs above the Catawba Island Club after he dumped his first wife(a local gal) for a wealthy lobbyist representing over 30 special interest groups in Columbus. The property is title under an LLC to try to keep it out of the public view. He had conveniently stayed at her place while he was in Columbus during the week. What a piece of work. What's really scary is that there has been no reporting of the Ethical implications by the Register and yet Redfern is still complaining about the reporting and article of SR.

Anonymous

Per usual, the most recent posters have helped to illustrate yet once again what to me is blindingly obvious – YOU are the entertainment.

Mr. White provides the grand opportunity by generally writing about much of nothin’ and you obligingly jump into the circus’ center ring. He’s one smart cookie and he’s obviously got most of numbers.

You’re being played people – read it and know it.

To ‘ol crackhead: Why not?

Anonymous

Chris Redfern is one of the biggest pr*cks I've ever encountered in 19 years of customer service. In fact, he is the biggest considering his stature. What a complete c*cksmoker.

sandman

Wow looks like Redfern needs to get out of office and get a job, or can't he find one around here

Anonymous

Got to hand it to the SR, one can't win against those who buy ink by the barrel. What is better yet is when the "good ole boy" gets inked and deserves it!!! Sad situation for anyone who voted for this career politician guy only to be disapponted time and again. Sounds like he also has some personal ethics issues. Now the question remains, if he communicates often with a certain city commissioner, what does his association have to say about the level politics in the city?

TT

Right, because by doing the exact same thing, you somehow become so much wiser than everyone else here. "Per usual" isn't even a proper clause; it's "as usual," "Per the usual (note article, 0);" could it be that you're not as smart as you think, or want us to think, you are? If you don't like it here, if it gets under your skin, then don't come back. It's as simple as that. You keep your eyes glued to these comment boards, just so you can harass others that post (and here's the important part) for posting. That's called a "troll," and you're a hypocrite to boot.

Anonymous

Who cares what Redfern says or thinks? He sickens me! He is the epitomy of the slimy, slick politician - he and his buddies Ferrell and Lyons. They smile nice and then stab you in the back. It's all about "them" and any power they can grab. What they don't seem to see is power doesn't mean a thing when it's gained in underhanded ways. If you're not a truly good person and if you've gotten that little bit of power by trying to seem something that you're not, when that little bit of power fades (and it will), all that's left is the shame that you brought upon yourself. And that stands forever.

Josh

Redfern vowed on at least two occasions (the candidate nights at Sandusky High School and the one in Port Clinton) prior to his reelection that he would not step down prior to the end of his term. If he does, then he will do a great disservice to his constituents by appointing Murray in his place. Actually, he already is. Whatever happened to those town hall meetings? Oh, maybe he’s too busy running the Ohio Democratic Party. How would he have time to represent Erie and Ottawa counties when he’s wining and dining with the Governor in Columbus? Let the people vote for the representatives Redfern instead of appointing them like you have been in the past.

Anonymous

Are you trying to be cute? You are a nobody.

Anonymous

RE: Re-educate yourself: So, does Redfern have a conflict of interest dating a lobbyist? That should definetly be a no, no for a public servant.

Anonymous

Re: tt: Regardless of your emotionalism, you continue to be played and you’ve sadly missed the point.

Best of luck in the future.

I’m outa here for a time. Fight amongst yourselves as I observe.

TT

No, I think we've all got the point. We just realize you're wrong, and like I said, a hypocrite. You couldn't resist posting again after my last response. You're no different than any one of us whom you mock, except for your unfortunate lack of any new thoughts. You're just a broken record. You're a sucker, Sage; you've been suckered in just as you accuse us of having been, and when called out on it, haven't the gumption to even respond. Don't worry about us seeing you out; we didn't see you in.

tinayak

Where does all the hate comes from on here and why the post from #&&^$ is allowed to stay on here...where's the abuse policy at now Matty boy?? Oh I forgot he is a Democrat so it doesn't matter what is said about him in the Voice of the Republicans aka the Sandusky Register.

Redfern is married to that gal now.

Anonymous

With Redfern, who knows what the truth is?

what?

Redfern is married to a lobbyist??? You have got to be kidding me. I guess nothing surprises me anymore coming out of Washington. When you say congress is in bed with the lobbyists, they weren't kidding!

Anonymous

I wish all the energy Sandusky is putting in bringing in casinos to this area could be directed to bringing in jobs to this area. Once the casinos are brought into the area, the employers will NEVER come as it creates a lot personnel problems for their employees.

Anonymous

Want to see some newly created poverty, go to any casino area developed in small towns like Sandusky. The number of people hitting you up for gas & food money in parking lots or at the malls is shocking. Casinos create poverty! Don't be fooled by all of the casino promises, because that kool-aide is deadly for any community.

40 Hour Worker

When it comes to commenting I believe people can agree to disagree and do so in a manner that doesn't lead to divisiveness and insulting comments. Unfortunately not everyone has the maturity to discuss, comment, and debate without resorting to ignorance and immaturity.

It's not just here, it's everywhere on every forum and community on the net. There's always one in the crowd or a handful who aren't happy unless they are stirring up drama. Beyond being disruptive to the conversation they don't seem to understand that their nonsense shows them in an ignorant, immature, and ill-informed light.

Anonymity is a huge factor in all this. It's easy to come on the net, cut someone down, and do it while hiding under the guise of anonymity. About the best you can do with people like that is not feed them what they want which is a response. The more you feed them the hungrier they get.

Anonymous


To those who are eager to believe false promises of good paying jobs with a gambling casino in Sandusky as part of the Marina District take note: It was reported on March 29th that the Mountaineer Casino in Chester, West Virginia lags in wages and benefits, paying the unit an average wage of just $9.34 an hour. Cashiers start at $6.50. The pay is so low that some employees can't afford necessities such as health insurance the union representative said.

So there you have it, CASINOS DO NOT PROVIDE GOOD JOBS or lving wages and benefits...unless you are a casino owner/developer and can afford to buy off the local "good old boys" who sell out their taxpayers and voters...

Anonymous

Having a casino is the easy way out for the politicians; they don't have to work as hard to bring in jobs to the community. Trust me, this isn't the answer and it will deteriorate the town even more especially if they are going to put it in at Battery Park. Condos and casions in the same place do not mix plus the area will not accommodate the traffic. The ideal place would be over at Cedar Point. They can accommodate all the traffic, parking and keep it isolated to that area. Try putting it in Murray and Stahl's backyard and see how they like it. Cedar Point is all wire up for it and ready to go. All they need is the law on their side so they can trade the rides for casino buildings.

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