Fundamental fairness? Forget about it

Matt Westerhold
Mar 23, 2010

NOTE: Retired Lorain County Common Pleas Court Judge Joseph Cirigliano did not sentence a woman hell-bent on making Erie County Prosecutor Kevin Baxter uncomfortable to eight years in prison. Judge Richard Markus sentenced Elsebeth Baumgartner. A previous verson of this blog contained incorrect information.

You better believe the "fix" to make sure fired Sandusky police Chief Kim Nuesse stays fired is already in place. Law director Don Icsman recommended the city civil service commission appoint retired Lorain County Common Pleas Judge Joseph E. Cirigliano as its hearing officer for Nuesse's appeal of her termination, and that's what the commission did on Monday.

What's wrong with that, you might ask. Well, first off, Icsman is so deeply imbedded in this controversy he has no business recommending anyone do anything on this matter. Icsman effectively approved the $22,000 Murman investigation without any input from city commission, which is required to review and give prior approval for such expenditures. City commissioners should be asking if the city charter was violated when Icsman approved the biased and bogus Murman probe, and if it was violated why their law director ignored city law on this huge waste of taxpayer money. Icsman should be held accountable for his decisions, and he should refrain from any further input on this sad, sad, sad affair.

Why haven't those questions been asked? Why is Nuesse the only person being held accountable? Why, indeed?

And Cirigliano? He has long-standing ties to Erie County Prosecutor Kevin Baxter, who was a witness in the Murman integrity probe and provided questionable testimony against Nuesse to the Murman investigators. Baxter later "corrected" the tainted Murman report after the Register raised questions about the accuracy of his statement.

What gave Baxter the right to alter a public document? Is he above the law? Why is Nuesse the only person being held accountable? Why, indeed?

Cirigliano ruled in favor of Baxter in a court dispute with his brother over the estate of their parents. Cirigliano has no business serving as the civil service commission's hearing officer in Nuesse's appeal. He should step aside and he should do so immediately. Surely, there is someone better positioned to provide the "fundamental fairness" this situation demands. That person is not Judge Cirigliano.

Comments

Anonymous

I havent been deleted in a while, good to know I hit a nerve Matt...you snake! As for the moron who says good job to the SR for deleting "Nuesse Hater" posts.....youre too naive to realize if the SR can sensor us, they will also sensor you when you have an opinion that differs from theirs. Think about it, I know its difficult but try. Anyway, I LOVE having my posts deleted I write them for Matt the idiot to read not you people, so if it gets deleted then it MUST have worked!!! Did po'wittle Matt get his wittle feewings....hurt??? LOL What a joke you are!!!

Anonymous

I have been searching my whole life for someone to look to for guidance and now I have......Matt Westerhold!!! Sure we have soldiers defending our country's freedom...sure we have Policemen and Firefighters protecting our lives and property, but they dont compare to Matt Westerhold, a TRUE AMERICAN HERO!!! Where else can you find a man....uh I mean a person, who can sit in his office chair and write about how everyone else should live and have people sing your praises? He is so VERY brave and I can only hope that one day I can have a little boy crush on someone who would never normally give me the time of day....I mean what more can you say??? LOL PLEASE Matt....Kim has you to choose from or Tim McClung...whatever will she do???? LOL

Anonymous

...like a lot of comments get deleted for no real substantive reason. I agree with mass deletions from the stories that deal with accidental death (in fact I don't think you should allow comments on those stories) and/or contain obsenities, but beyond that, let the comments stay!

Anonymous

Those two comments from you were obsenities and uncalled for and should have been deleted. Grow up!

Anonymous

HAHAHAHAHA. That is totally hilarious. You go girl, so glad you finally found your H-E-R-O. That has got to be the most laughable comment I have seen out of the thousands of Nuesse stories yet!

Anonymous

That irratates me the most! I have seen some horrible blogs in the stories like, Man chokes baby, and the story about Mr. Scally. The SR lets some of the worst blogs on those stories stay and delete the ones they don't agree with here. Why in the world would they let blogs stay in all of the sad stories that are so unkind is beyond my imagination!

Anonymous

I couldn't have said it better. For example, go to the story about the burned boats and read some of the trash people have posted. Very sad...

Anonymous

Cirigliano did not sentence Baumgartner. Markus did not sentence Baumgartner. Shirley Strickland Saffold sentenced Baumgartner to prison for eight years. Why isn't Mr. Westerhold correcting this factual inaccuracy?

Anonymous

The SR needs to think again and practice what they write. The Register doesn't let comments stay on long if they disagree with the Srs viewpoint. We need a newspaper that is honest and inbiased unlike the SR.

Anonymous

you are correct about don c. icsman.. since 1998 d. icsman has controlled the commission and managers.. he only has to flip 4 members to keep his power. when you are as "charming" as he is commissioners have NO chance to irradiate this cancer. he will never be removed. this town is his.

Anonymous

I agree with you, but I have found that when I write things to degrade Matt Westerhold, if they get deleted it means that Matt has read it and knows what people think of him and that is my goal. Those on here who support him and Kim, mean nothing to me, because you could have Kim on video commiting crimes and these people would somehow blame Matt Kline, but Matt Westerhold is getting paid to spew hatred towards the Police Department and he needs to know that no one considers him to be man, he is barely human, but certainly not a man. So when I love when my posts get deleted, it means he read them and I struck a nerve with my comment....that is what I want!!

Anonymous

but when my posts get deleted there is no derogatory remarks, no profane language or anything of that sort. Just my opinion of things that is different than the SR's.

Anonymous

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Anonymous

Well, just found that Meijer puts it's weekly ad on their website. To make a long story short, I canceled my subscription to the Register about 6 months ago and was buying the paper on Sundays, mostly to get the Meijer ad. Well, now I don't have to buy it on Sundays anymore! I can read the ad on the Meijer website! This is great!

Anonymous

SMOOCHY MUST GO

Anonymous

Mr. Westerhold DID correct his mistake. Baxter and Barylski corrected theirs also by crossing out and correcting not ONE MISTAKE but SIXTEEN on the grade school Murman Report but not until AFTER it was used to terminate Kim Nuesse. NO WAY was that legal.....

Anonymous

SO WHAT IF IT WASN'T LEGAL? HEE HEE-- I'M THE PROSECUTOR! HEE HEE HEE
SO WHO'S GONNA PROSECUTE ME? HEE HEE HEE HEE..

Anonymous

AGAIN! Oh well, must have hit a nerve, that's ok then. I know it was the truth. Shame on you SR. The posts that should be deleted stay here for eternity.

Anonymous

No...you're just an offensive, fat choad that no one wnats to hear from.

Anonymous

I couldnt agree with all of you more....I have seen posts on here with swear words....racial slurs.....explicit sexual content and they stay up, but I say something negative, but true and not threatening about Matt Westerhold and it gets deleted?? I would like to know why that is. Also if you ever tried to report a vulgar post, you MUST leave your EMail address which means they have your IP address, they then can follow you on ALL blogs.

Anonymous

That is the reason I put the name of the publisher and his phone number and email address further down the blogs. Check it out. Dont want to email? Call him. We get enough complaints and maybe it will stop.

Anonymous

As I read through these posts, I see a lot of people supporting Kim Nuesse. My question here is......what if the accusations are correct? Do you honestly think that the entire Police Department, the entire commission, the City Manager, the Law Department, the Erie County Sheriff, County Prosecutors are ALL lying and Nuesse is the ONLY one telling the truth? Because that is what would have to happen, ALL above would have to be involved, there is no way!!! By now, if this were the case, someone from one of the people listed above would have come forward, either in person or secretly. I am not implying there isnt corruption in some city governments, maybe even some people in ours.....but we are talking over 100 people here and Kim's only allies are...Dan Kaman, Gary Frankowski and Tim McClung. I dont count Matt Westerhold, because he is just being used as a pawn in this and is too dumb to realize it. I realize everyone wants to believe that the Police Department is corrupt, but c'mon really, those of you with sense, I mean not those who just hate cops because youve been arrested or given a speeding ticket, where would we be without them? So IF the accusations are true and they are, why would we want to take a chance in having another Tim McClung on our hands. Also, I would also be curious to know how many people who support her have actually met her....

Anonymous

Where in the world did you see any written reports from the, entire commission, the city manager, the law department, the erie county sheriff, county prosecutor that says Nuesse was lying. The only indication came from the PD and that was all verbal, not one piece of written complaint was turned in by these crybabies. Wake up and research this entire lynch mob attitude of this PD.

Anonymous

read murman's book.. forward by don c. icsman and payed for by YOU!!

Anonymous

Alright now, you have taken quite enough Prozac for toady. Just go lie down and do not listen to those voices in your head.

Anonymous

Dude heck yes I support her, dude she's hott

goofus

put up that story about perkins township wish list again or were all the pekins pig bashing too much

Anonymous

I support Neuss because she wasn't going to let these a$$holes run over her. I hope she gets a 7 figure settlement.

Anonymous

The story is at the bottom of the home page under PERKINS

Anonymous

"If "if" were a skif, we could take a boat ride! Ever hear that one? I have met her. Do I KNOW her? No! Do I SUPPORT her? That DEPENDS? My personal question has always been....why wasn't/hasn't the ATTORNEY GENERALS' OFFICE been contacted to LOOK AT THIS? Simple question. Is there an ANSWER?

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