Police chief fought, won

Matt Westerhold
Mar 23, 2010

 

Kim Nuesse’s not the only police chief fighting gender bias. In Youngtown, Ariz., an arbitrator ordered police Chief Kimberly Johnson reinstated, dismissing complaints from her subordinates that she “created a hostile work environment.”

The Nov. 14 article in the Daily News-Sun detailing the developments did not say if Johnson was “super crazy,” but the whine from her officers had a familiar ring.

“She was really mean to us and made us work really hard,” the big burly Youngtown police officers said.

The similarities between the witch hunt targeting Sandusky police Chief Kimberly Nuesse and Youngtown's Kimberly Johnson are eerie, and disturbing. Some male police officers are just so delicate -- especially those “elite commanders.”

But there are stark contrasts. The city of Youngtown spent just over $12,000 on a review conducted by a human resources firm. The city of Sandusky has spent upwards of $200,000 on Nuessegate.

The firm hired by Youngtown did indeed find that a hostile work environment existed: The hostility was created by the complaining officers protecting their comfort zones.

Comments

Anonymous

Has nothing to do with Nuesse. She lied to her bosses and everyone else. Nice spin Matt, but it won't help Kim.

Anonymous

PLEASE can't you write about anything else that is happening around here?! You must be bewitched by this woman.

Anonymous

I do believe Chief Nuesse mislead city officials about the dispatch system. I think she fell under the influence of the Perkins police chief.

Chief Nuesse also showed poor ethics and dismal leadership by fixing a ticket instead of merely paying the fine like every other citizen in Sandusky.

What all this circus will lead to I am not sure. Big payday for the lawyers and the judge....maybe a payout to Kim Nuesse to go away. Very difficult to see how she could ever return as chief of police in Sandusky.

Anonymous

Isn't amazing that some people have focused on a few small mistakes to be the basis for lynching Nuesse, and perhaps the Chief in Youngtown, AZ?

Let's take a microscope and checkout all these Whiny Cry Baby police officers to see just how clean their slates are before we hang these two women out to dry.

Anonymous

From what I am seeing, it doesn't look good for the city. If I were Judge C, I would throw this whole thing out because it is a waste of time and money. This hearing is dragging on and on with no discloser. We have been without a police chief for almost a year now. I want to see Baxter on camera along with Kline and Miers.

Anonymous

who cares... seriously...

this whole thing is absolutely ridiculous, unless you work at the sandusky police dept, this whole ordeal has no effect whatsoever on your life, why the hell is it front page news on the register everyday, is sandusky that pathetic that there is nothing else to talk about? i can't believe that the register is actually making money off of this utter crap. all that this story and sandusky register are doing is showing the rest of the area how big of a joke sandusky is.

Anonymous

Mike was making us progressive with the Paper District, The Marina District and Nuesse! Too bad, as it turns out , we can't afford any of em!

Anonymous

Let's get serious, and truthful! Kim Nuesse was set up and framed. We all know that!

Anonymous

Well I don't know that. I know she is a liar and was fired properly.

Anonymous

slipping Matty Boy!! After 3 weeks of silence and this is what we get. How come no explanation of why your 3 endorsed candidated all lost in the election. You stink as a managing editor and need to go away before you ruin Erie County and the Register!!!

Anonymous

I think he has already done that. He is a joke and so is this newspaper. I cannot believe all of the turmoil Westerhold and Nuesse have created. Too bad it isn't back in the good old days and we could run them BOTH outta town!

Anonymous

So, How did it turn out for the Chief Johnson when she did return to work?

Anonymous

Can't you write about anything else. You are a sorry excuse for an editor. Why can't you think of anything but Kim. It's not healthy. Matt, get help before it is to late. Then maybe you will realize, Kim deserved to be fired, she is a liar.

Anonymous

Below is the article about the Arizona chief. No mention of an arbitrator. It states she was cleared by the towns investigation. This is nothing like Nuesse's case. She was not cleared, she was fired. The Arizona chief was not fired. This editorial is a blatant attempt to misled the readers to think the cases are similar. Shame on you Matt Westerhold. Here is the story from a real newspaper.

Youngtown Police Chief Kimberly Johnson will report to work Monday following the release of an investigative report that cleared her of several allegations made by her officers.

Johnson had been on leave after town officials received a letter of no confidence against the chief. All nine officers on the force signed the letter, which read: "Due to the hostile working environment, lack of leadership and the emotional instability, we, the undersigned, no longer have the confidence in Kim Johnson's ability to lead the Youngtown Police Department."

Town Manager Lloyce Robinson hired Traaen and Associates to perform an investigation of the police force at a cost of $12,520. The investigation is the second audit performed by the human resources company of the police department, which also conducted a $4,999 audit in September to find the sources of reported low morale within the department.

Anonymous

That is quite typical of Westerhold. I bet their newspaper doesn't print half truths trying to fool its citizens either.

Anonymous

The difference between the two cases is that Arizona did a thorough investigation before taking a firing action. Two things could have been cleared up in Nuesse's case, the city could have pulled records on the grant and the car ticket, but it seems the city didn't look into it. The grant has disappeared and no one bothered to either keep records on the car as to who checked it out for the day as all this could have been investigated before they fired Nuessee. No records, no case. Here again, the city is sloppy in their lack of records and retention of paper work not to mention the absence of a union grievance on Nuesse, only verbal. Judge "C" has been around a long time as a judge and this is a waste of his time. All of this is heresay and no one bothered to check out the heresay for facts. The testimony is embarrassing on the city's part. Can't wait to hear from Miers and Kline although the cameras will be turned off for their testimony.

Anonymous

Enough Matt!!! Why do you focus your life around Nuesse??? Get over it and report or talk about something else. I only read your headline just to see what you are writing about. I have not read your complete story because its the same ole stuff "NUESSE". She is going to end up just like your good ole friend McClung you stood by him forever, look what happen to him. I still can't wait for that investigation to come out, coming soon!

Anonymous

Your obsession with Nuesse is just plain weird, Westerhold. You're coming across like a lovesick teenager.

Anonymous

This is unbelievable. You would rather see this city go under to give this woman what she wants after SHE messed up. I would rather see this city saved and get her out of this town. She lied to her bosses, can't get along with anyone but what it seems is a handful of people, caused so much hatred and turmoil (along w/SR) for this city and has no experience to boot. C'mon people. You cry about your taxpaying money but yet you continue to help her through this outrage. It's really simple, she messed up, got fired, let her go back to where she came from and let us go on in our own little town without this garbage. Too bad people have to butt in when it is all up to her boss. Is everyone forgetting what a boss is?

Anonymous

How does this Westerhold guy keep getting away with the damage he has done about this Nuesse?

Anonymous

Matt it is so nice to sign on and see a new BIAS editorial from you. Have you been in Youngstown stalking another female Police Chief? Is that why it has been a long time since you have written an editorial demeaning men and women who have jobs that actually make a difference to society? In fact Matt, I am starting to wonder if you are REALLY a man at all. I mean, you certainly dont have the courage a man is supposed to have. I have a 12 year old niece who has more "stones" than you have. Understand this Matt.....Kim is NOT coming back...all this other stuff is just smoke and mirrors so she can try and milk the city out of some money that she doesnt deserve. But ok, you obviously need something to do so you can EARN a paycheck, but once she is gone and she WILL be gone Matt, I would like to give you a few ideas you can write about next....you could do a story about lonely pathetic middle aged men, who obsess over women that would never give them the time of day?? I mean who knows more about that than you Matt??? How about a story about how the SR does not require their employees have any talent in order to put them on the payroll? Well thats about all I have for you Matt...oh yea I hear they are having a sale on Skirts at the Wal-Mart so you better hurry and get there before they run out.....LOL...you make this fun Matt!!

Anonymous

Mr. Westerhold is there anything else you can write about. This is your own opinion, nothing based on facts. Get over it already

Sam

Mattie you are like Hitler in the bunker just before the Russians arrived, in denial. Give it up, find a new hobby.

Anonymous

Westerhold, did you ever consider that maybe Nuesse is simply a liar... whether gender bias is involved or not?

Anonymous

Can you just please admit that it is possible that Nuesse is wrong?

Anonymous

WAAAAAAAAAAH, you crybaby Matt. Keep writing, we know you are frustrated every time you write and it is good to know you are still mad. HAAAAAAAAAAA

Anonymous

Youngtown, must be a nice bunch.
Fire a policeman with cancer. Won't consider his retirement request.

If they treat a man with cancer with such compassion, one can only imagine how they would treat a women......

Anonymous

Matt,

Take your lips off of the crack pipe. The burning of your lips has effected your ability to be an un-biased reporter. There are obvious reasons why you left Lorain County....Only if the other (brain dead) crack heads in Erie County could figure out that you are a "whack" job. What does your wife think about your obsession with the former chief.

I agree that she may have been a good chief, and did good things for this city, but your biased reporting, has called into question your journalistic integrity.

Anonymous

Has anyone else noticed the noticeable difference in Matt's weight from his earlier pictures for his 'blog'. I agree with the previous writer that he may be on the crack pipe. That would explain Matt's delusional obsession with Chief Kimberly Nuesse.

Matt please get the help you need and check yourself into a rehab program.

Anonymous

Please leave Matt alone, he is a very good customer of mine and should treated as such. And for you non-believers, that is sun burned lips, not burns from a crack pipe, as many of you are probably thinking.

Anonymous

Matt it is so nice to sign on and see a new BIAS editorial from you. Have you been in Youngstown stalking another female Police Chief? Is that why it has been a long time since you have written an editorial demeaning men and women who have jobs that actually make a difference to society? In fact Matt, I am starting to wonder if you are REALLY a man at all. I mean, you certainly dont have the courage a man is supposed to have. I have a 12 year old niece who has more "stones" than you have. Understand this Matt.....Kim is NOT coming back...all this other stuff is just smoke and mirrors so she can try and milk the city out of some money that she doesnt deserve. But ok, you obviously need something to do so you can EARN a paycheck, but once she is gone and she WILL be gone Matt, I would like to give you a few ideas you can write about next....you could do a story about lonely pathetic middle aged men, who obsess over women that would never give them the time of day?? I mean who knows more about that than you Matt??? How about a story about how the SR does not require their employees have any talent in order to put them on the payroll? Well thats about all I have for you Matt...oh yea I hear they are having a sale on Skirts at the Wal-Mart so you better hurry and get there before they run out.....LOL...you make this fun Matt!!

Anonymous

What must it be like to log on and see that so many people dislike....no check that....HATE you Matt. You work so hard at these so called "Editorials" and people sign on JUST to bash you. Maybe you really need to think about your choices Matt...like maybe there isnt something else in this world you wouldnt be better suited for. I was going to say a WalMart greeter, but then people would actually have to look at you and that would not do anything for their business. Wow, this is harder than I thought thinking of things you are qualified to do. The sad thing is, I bet Matt somehow enjoys the bashing he gets, cause at least SOMEONE is paying attention to him....its pathetic...

Sam

The Wal Mart greeters work for a living, unlike Westerhold. I doubt if Wal Mart would hire him.

Anonymous

I hear that he was hated in Elyria before he got here. IO hear the have youtube, they a very funny westerhold video there. I would put up the link, but every time I do, Matt deletes my blog.

Anonymous

Puleeeeeeeeez tell me that you people are teenagers commenting on this and not police officers.

Anonymous

If those two weasels of the Ohio State Patrol can get their jobs back, so can Kim. What she did is nothing compared to those two. The little boys of the Sandumpy Police Department should just quit and leave the area or stop your whining. The law officers of around the local area are becoming a laughing stock. Druggies, Drunks, Bullies, Thieves, Liars, have I missed any? And these are the POLICE?

Anonymous

You got two things right, Kim is the liar that you mentioned and Reynoldsburg PD is laughing their a$$ off at us for hiring her.

Anonymous

No MATT.....we are 90% of the people in Sandusky who dont like you. Dont cry about it, you use this sad excuse for a paper as you platform to try and impress a no good dishonest piece of crap blonde woman, what do you expect?? People know youre pathetic!! Though I wouldnt be surprised if some are cops.....who could blame them....

Anonymous

Well we cant all have important jobs like flipping burgers at McDonalds like you have. So if you dont mind, leave the job of protecting and serving to the real men and keep living in your parents basement or in your girlfriend's metro paid for apartment......I know women who are more man that you are. There are female cops on SPD....PPD....and ECSO that would make you run away crying to your mommy....youre as pathetic as Westerhold. Get on here and degrade cops while you hide behind your keyboard......

Anonymous

I am not a cop I just think Matt is very childish. The SR has turned into nothing but drama and bad reporting. He did this same thing with McClung. McClung could do no wrong but what happen Matt? You were wrong about him and you will probably be wrong about Nuesse. I don't mind you writing about politics etc. but keep your opinion on a low profile, give us the facts (real ones) and let us make our own decision. You have been on the same topic for a year now, get a life.

Anonymous

The SR has turned into the Enquirer! Matt is a Moron who has no clue about Law Enforcement or how the clash comes about within its ranks. He needs to move on! Also, I have spoken with Chief Johnson from Youngtown AZ and she was hardnosed when she was a Lt.

I bet Matt has never even spoken to her and to try and compare the 2 cases makes him look ignorant

Anonymous

Make that 91%.

Anonymous

Matt Westerhold is seeking justice. If you beleive Kim Nuesse wasn't railroaded, and lied upon, then you're in another planet!

Anonymous

You know nothing of this case. She got what she deserved. She lied to her employees, she lied to her boss and she lied to the commission. That is just cause for being fired. The only railroad is in your head.

Anonymous

What right do you have saying I"know nothing of this case"? I know much more of the Nuesse than you do, I'm sure! All you know is what you heard! KIM NUESSE WAS RAILROADED. Get that in your head, because it's factual. The truth will soon prevail, and you'll be surprise to find out who the liars are.

Anonymous

She was fired, is fired and will stay fired. And you know nothing about this case.

Anonymous

Druggies, Drunks, Bullies, Thieves, Liars, have I missed any?
Yes, wasn't there one that raped a kid in the cop station? Ugh.

Anonymous

Instead of meeting a problem head on and resolving it they call in their expensive big guns---the Cleveland lawyers and the retired Judge. Pathetic.

Anonymous

Twelve thousand compared to upwards of two hundred thousand....what a bunch of idiots we have running this city! This city has to be the laughingstock of every city around.

Anonymous

Why don't you tell your buddy Nuesse to quit dragging this thing on then? She and Westerhold with all of the printed half truths are the cause of this mess.

Anonymous

You boys all are whiners, can't handle the fact that a woman can do a better job than you lazy stinkin men. Well, get used to it because us women are going to start rising to the top and put you men down! We have been suppressed for so long. We are superior in organization and management as well as fitness. You baby boys better get your acts together or you will be replaced by a woman!

Anonymous

I am a women and I don't agree that women should be able to do any job that a man can do. There are some jobs, sports etc that should remain sepperate of sexes.

After following the Neusse saga I am convinced that she is not capable of leading the SPD. Not because she is a women but because she did not tell the truth. Anyone in her position should be honest.

Anonymous

She lied? Who reported this? Men, thats who. They have tried to destroy her. She is an upstanding person and a rock in this crappy community. It is a shame that she is no longer in charge.

Anonymous

LOL!!!!!! If you are an example of the type of "woman" who will be trying to get my job, then I have to say I feel I have plenty of Job Security. So in your opinion, it is ok for a woman to lie cheat and steal as long as she is going after a job which is considered by society to be a Man's job? I also feel that with the exception of a few things, women can do just about anything a man can do. I think there are certain sports that should always stay for ONLY men. As for Law Enforcement, I think regardless of what sex you are you have to be a special kind of person. Man or Woman you have to have certain qualities as a PERSON. Honesty, Integrity, Ethics and Kim Nuesse does not possess any of these. So for those of you who think she should keep this job JUST because she is a woman, are you also the type are the first people whine and moan when cops are caught being dishonest? So which way do you want it??? You want honesty UNLESS it comes the cop's name is Kim Nuesse?? Make up your mind!

Anonymous

Sooo, when we find out that President-elect Obama has lied to us with his campaign "promises" that will be ok? We should overlook them? All people lie to get what they want. Kim Nuesse hasn't done anything that most other people have done. You can look at everyone's resume and find little white lies. She is a highly regarded person and she should have been treated better! The men that worked for her couldn't stand having a woman telling them what to do. I wish her job was an elected one and then you would see that she could have won an election. Go Kim, I hope this piece of crap town has to pay out the rear-end and then they will see what a good woman they have lost.

Anonymous

So sad that you say lying by anyone is okay. But Kim did more then lie. She failed to get along with both men and women throughout this county. She falsified a grant. She took gratuities after ordering everyone not to. She failed to pay her parking ticket. She caused chaos with both men and yes women on the Sandusky police department. She failed to lead. And the sad thing is that there is a lot more. But you supporters are blind to anything that points to her being wrong.

Anonymous

"GUESS NO ONE LIKES A FEMALE POLICE CHIEF".....

Male-Female-K-9, the officers of this department (SPD) really do not care. We just want some one that is honest, says what they mean and mean what they say. That when they tell you to do something they mean it and follow their own directives. It’s not a question of if these officers "like" their chief or not. It is a question of can we respect them or not.
None of the officers on this department will always agree 100% of the time on our supervisors decisions/ their likes or dislikes/ or if they even have our best interest at heart. These issues are arbitrary. Just make sure whoever replaces the last one is totally honest, can tell the truth, and doesn’t try and manipulate people and issues to fit their own agenda. "

Anonymous

The fact of the matter is that she was the chief and that her suboardinates did not like a female in charge. When someone gets hired to do a job there is always people that won't fulfill their obligations by being team players. That is what happened in the Sandumpy PD. The police officers became lazy and liars themselves and figured that they could use her for an excuse. The whole PD should be fired for insuboardination and replaced by barney fife wannabes. Truth be told, many of the police officers there probably could not get a job any where else.

Anonymous

She was Chief and she lied!!!! Get it straight. It's not a matter of her being a female she did things that she should not have she also was warned about hanging out with McClung and she began acting like him, look where he is today out of a job waiting for the investigation to come out, he is doomed. If a man would have done the things she did he would be in this position also. Someone stated Neusse is respected? By who? Not me I have no respect for any individual who lies. Women or not she was wrong and does not deserve he job.

Anonymous

she lied? got it on audio/video? anything in writing? if not there is no way i will take a statement from a regular lousy, lazy police officer over a chief of police.

Anonymous

If Kim were a man, we wouldn't be going through all of this. Baxter and the fat little policemen just couldn't stand seeing a woman at the top. Good luck Kim! We're all praying for justice!

Anonymous

I sure wouldn't waste my time arguing with babylicious. It is quite evident....she has no clue.

Anonymous

Why the hate? Has Chief Nuesse lied to any of you personally? Have you heard first hand any lies? Or, are you, like so many other people believing just what you read in the paper? I have known her for many years and find her to be a very upstanding person. So, unless you have been witness to any lies please keep your negative comments to yourselves. You people are the problem makers not Chief Nuesse.

Anonymous

Unfortunately, that's why the command staff and supervisors at SPD had to have witnesses every time the Queen was in the room spewing her crap. It caught up to her and is a travesty that everyone at SPD is getting lumped into this conspiracy. There are fine professional officer's, supervisors, and command staff at SPD that have the community in mind and try to make a difference. It isn't perfect, everyone isn't perfect there at all but there are some very fine officer's. To keep spewing and lumping all of SPD in the same boat is a bunch of crap. Kim Nuesse caused and created this mess, bottom line. The simple minded statements about her being a woman is ridiculous. Like previously stated, not everyone jumped on her bandwagon but an overwhelming majority did. The unhappiness fairy didn't care if she was respected, if you don't have respect, you can't lead, she didn't try to lead but pad her resume with Tim and Kim show and it didn't work. Sorry, goodbye!!!

Anonymous

You are sooo right! Kim Nuesse is a wonderful person, and a very good police chief. The hate comes from these people who don't know her, and believe only of what they heard. They have zero factual knowledge of the situation.

Anonymous

Excuse me, but, have you ever worked for this woman? Have you ever associated with her on anything other than a personal basis, or possibly some type of fund raiser? Did you even know her prior to this whole thing 'blowing up in our faces’? Kim was real good at playing the 'dress to impress' game. She could make you believe she could have run the FBI, but when it actually came to doing something she was all smoke and mirrors. As one of our wonderful commissioners stated, "Well she interviewed great!"
When someone is attempting to either impress you or to get you on 'their side' in a difficult situation, they are much different than when you work for them, or have to deal with them in a business setting. I'm not attempting to run her down, but even her sons' have an opinion that greatly differs from your "wonderful person" assessment. We at SPD do not "hate" Kim Nuesse, we just know her by her "fruits" and believe me, you would not have such a 'high opinion' of her if you were on our side of the produce isle.

Anonymous

Unbelievable. From an outsiders point of view (lived here about 6 years and can't wait to leave) this community is hypocritical, bias and for some reason that I have yet to figure out arrogant. This person was doing her job. All of you bigoted arrogant, self centered morons are simply jealous. I DO RESPECT HER AND HER POSITION. You "local yocals" really need to step back, take a look at your selves and workon your own character.

Anonymous

You have an option...if you don't like your job or the fact that your boss expects you to your job, leave. Go somewhere else. There are plenty of jobs for someone as smart as you are. Please, leave. Go ahead. Maybe your the reason the crime is so high in Sandusky. You are so worried about whats happening in your bosses office you can't see the crime you are paid to eliminate. Leave, go ahead. Do the community a favor and a service. Bye bye. Good luck. Farewell.

Ohhhh, you don't want to leave. You can't find another job...don't have any connections like you had here to help you get a position that you are not qualified for. Well you are stuck then. Do as your boss says and the public pays you for...protect and serve.

Anonymous

Since you can't figure out why this community is arrogant, I will assist you. It is because we are superior. You will not find a more advanced localized group of intelligentsia anywhere in the universe.

You are correct when you state this prson was doing her job. She was, however, doing much more that just her job and that is why she no longer has her job.

You mispelled "yokels".

I have stepped back and looked at my character per your request and I have found it to be flawless, but I thank you for the reminder.

When you leave you will miss us, but you will also be doing us a favor by raising our arrogance level merely by your abscence.

Anonymous

"Hear me roar." Helen Reddy.

Anonymous

Anyone who can hear the accusations against Kim Nuesse and say she was "doing her job", are nuts!! It is obvious you have no idea about what the real issue and instead choose to go off of the fact that she is a woman and is being picked on by the "Good Ole' Boys". Everyone has a right to their own opinion, but when you give an opinion that is not based on the all the facts is an ignorant opinion. For you to hear of all the unethical things Kim Nuesse has done and still continue to feel she should be leading a Police Department, I mean how can you REALLY feel that way and not understand why people feel you're stupid. A police man in Huron takes a pill to help his blood pressure so his insurance wont be affected and all you Dotes wanted him run out of town..BUT the key word in that senetence is "HIM"...there are women out there who are having children by 3-4 different guys as a career so they can get everything for free INCLUDING health insurance, but this guy wanted to not pay astronomical prices for his health insurance, cause he is trying to work AND raise a family and you people call him a crook??? Make up your minds people, you can not make this decision about a person's sex. You are all just a bunch of hypocrites and Matt Westerhold is the king/queen of you all!!

Anonymous

We now have Det.Sgt.Orzech incharge of his brotherinlaw Det.Nixon working together in the DB how did this happen.We know Sams is
behind this, Nixon is no detective, again
this is the buddy system at SPD bring back
Chief Nuesse.

Anonymous

I have heard the accusations against Kim Nuesse. What you haven't bothered to hear is the proof that the accusations are false. She didn't pay a parking ticket that is fact. She offered to pay it twice but took the terrible advice of the then command staff to not pay because they viewed the ticket as unwarranted. Everyone from the judge to the City Manager were aware of the decision. A year later a new City Manager decides to reach back and call the decision dishonest. Go figure!! The rest of the allegations are similar bluster, smoke & mirrors.

Anonymous

Locate Isolate and eliminate. You have no honor and this story will be told.

Anonymous

Nixon was put in the detective bureau under Chief Nuesse's watch. Of course you don't know that and aren't you the one who told Nuesse not to pay her ticket?

Anonymous

It's not Kim's fault she didn't pay her ticket. An employee told her not to. Bad judgment on her part and another reason to let her go. She WAS the boss and it was her responsibility to pay it. Not to blame others when she didn't. Only the judge can dismiss a ticket, if he didn't dismiss it, then she had to pay it.

I suppose it's not her fault she lied either. If her boss didn't ask her a question, then she would not have had to lie. That makes it Matt's fault for putting her in a position to lie. I see how this works, it's never Kim's fault, it's always someone else's fault.

Anonymous

Why should anyone that was not the initiator of the problem leave? No officers asked her to lie, none of them encouraged her to fabricate issues about the dispatch system, and no one twisted her arm to associate with Timmy
From your proposal that type of reasoning indicates that if your boss is a lying, thieving, child molesting, rapist, you should just 'go find another job'. You are part of the reasoning this society is in the trouble it’s in. You are the type of person that refuses to stand up to what is wrong in society. I imagine that if you had witnessed a crime and I asked you for a description of the perpetrator, you would reply, "I just don't want to get involved". And yet you are ready to crucify someone who does, and would call them a "snitch". But if it makes YOU feel better, go ahead and cast your stones, you won't be the first, and definitely won’t be the last. If I had a dollar for every time somebody told me they were going to kill me for doing my job I'd be a wealthy man. They only difference is you have the gall to accuse me of not doing it.

Anonymous

he or she is right. leave if your unhappy or can't do the job! there are plenty of good people looking for work. Leave the chief to do her job. How can she do it with all of you gnats pestering her?

Anonymous

She can't do her job, she IS FIRED, WAS FIRED and will REMAIN FIRED.

Anonymous

I heard SPD was having a departmental meeting when Frankowski is no longer alive and P*ss on his grave.

Anonymous

You apparently either can't read or are just plain thick in the head. I never said I was unhappy, or can't do the job. If it made any difference you could look at my file anytime you want. The Chief and her attorney have and had nothing to say to me about it during my testimony.
Once again I tell you it’s the issue of right and wrong. What Ms. Nuesse did was not right. As a supervisor and Chief of Police she has a responsibility to be above reproach in her conduct and her actions. Not only should the public be able to expect this from her, but her officers need to be able to look up to her. If she is unable or unwilling to conduct herself in such a manner, she is the one that needs to leave, not the officers that do the job day in and day out without your thanks or anyone else's. Whoever you are, I'm done talking to you because you obviously are incapable of understanding the simple concepts of right and wrong. Have a great day.

Taxpayer

Ha! Ha! Matt, you sure know how to light the fuse. Of course all the SPD supporters AND their spouses are going to scream you are a bum. I want to be informed and FREE to make my own decisions. I need the SR to keep reporting this. The people will decide if this story in AZ has any significance to Sandusky, Ohio. It IS news because this involves taxpayer MONEY. This is all about a wrongful discharge by the city and how much she is going to get. I have seen this before where subordinates create a mutiny and get upset when the media exposes everything to the public. Of course Nuesse is going to be controversal. It was an abrasive relationship from the beginning. I am still undecided as what is best for SPD. I know these SPD boys and girls and most of them are credible. A few are not. Many have left or retired. I do know she will win and get paid, but she needs to resign once reinstated. This will be the best for everyone involved. The FOP knows that in order to issue the death penalty of labor (termination) your case must be extremely strong. We shall see. I hate to see so much money wasted when the city and the PEOPLE are going through hard times.

Anonymous

Why should we pay someone for doing what is wrong? And with regard to the FOP-She, as a chief, is not a member of the FOP bargining unit. She gave up that right when she took on the position that she did. As a department head, all the City Manager had to do was to tell her she was not working out in his administration, and leave her go. This is true of ALL department heads. They do not even have to give you a reason. In my opinion, his decision to enter into this issue of her subordinates complaints was a HUGE mistake. It opened the door to all this "he said/she said" controversy, as well as her playing the "gender card". Well, we will see how all this plays out-I hope for the best.

Anonymous

The Fraternal Order of Police is a brotherhood and sisterhood of law enforcement officer's who care for each other and the communities they represent. The ex-Chief wasn't associated because she didn't care about anyone but herself. If you idiots on here don't like the police, quit calling.

Taxpayer

The chief of police or any department head for the city are hired at WILL. But, if the city manager fires someone, it MUST be for just cause. It is like when the labor union fights for the job of one of its members. If management's case is weak, the member will be reinstated with back pay. Nuesse was fired and now a judge has to decide if she was fired for just cause. It is the same principle. In order for the death penalty of employment be justified, there must be overwhelming justification. If the city (employer) case is weak then Nuesse (employee) will be reinstated. Come on! You know of people that have been arrested and still be allowed to keep their jobs. The department needs this to end so they can get back to serving the public and promoting lieutenants to captains and sergeants to lieutenants. The problem is the members of the department initiated this thing so it will play out to the end. I also hope for the best because the police department has a ton of other things they need to do (like being involved in selecting a new chief) besides being in the spotlight for a department head termination dispute.

Anonymous

Hi Lori

Attitude

That is what ALL this is about. Go anywhere - watch what happens when attitudes get in the way of logic. Problems. If the problems aren't resolved, things usually snowball. It happened here.

Anonymous

I was uptown one night when the FOP were having some kind of party and
it was disgusting the way these officers were acting and carrying
on at their upstairs lodge.

Anonymous

@ BILL

Sounds to me like maybe they were having a good time? Unlike the Nuesse supporters who spend their life blogging trying to make her look good.

Anonymous

@ ME

Who in the he!! is Lori?

Taxpayer

At least the FOP has their lodge in the downtown. It is a beautiful old building. I would be disappointed if they had their lodge in Perkins.

Anonymous

I am not a cop or married to a SPD officer and I have no respect for ex-Chief Nuesse. She continued to stay in a abusive relationship and comes to work and is suppose to help people in these situations when called out??? Does not seem right then to put everything else into play that she is doing at the SPD, it's just not right. She has some major issues both at home and work. She needs to get in a new line of work this one is just not right for her.

Anonymous

Not all the people that you see down at the FOP lodge are officers.

Taxpayer

So you BLAME Nuesse because she has "major issues at home" and you want to bring personal problems up? I would be careful if I were you. And just how clean are YOU? Do NOT bring up personal problems at home. If you do, your unintended consequence will be to drag all the members of SPD into their history of problems at HOME. It is NO one's business. Do you understand? This is about Nuesse and her performance at WORK. So now I seriously doubt your non-affiliation with SPD officers. Think before you write things.

Anonymous

Wow, amazing. I have YET to see a Nuesse supporter THINK before they spoke. I have seen some pretty NASTY hatred spewing around these blogs about people...especially people who are NOT Nuesse supporters. Can you please explain? How do you have the nerve to tell this person to think before you speak after all you supporters have written about our city leaders, public servants, commissioners and so on? You say REALLY UGLY things about them, their wives, their personal lives, their families, their looks, etc. Must I go on. I will be waiting to see how you can explain yourself. Thank you.

VERY, VERY AMAZING

BTW that goes for the SR also.

Anonymous

What you fail to realize is that an officer's home life can directly affect their performance at work...

If her mind is on her drama at home, just how much can she put into her job? Besides, we're all told that we are officers 24 hours a day. That are conduct and lives out side the job can reflect on our positions. Is she beyond that.

There have been officers who have been reprimanded at work because of things in their personal lives.

How can you expect to tell people to keep their back yard clean, when you yourself can't clean your own. Again, like when she was there, do as I say, not as I do. Preach one thing and do the other.

I guess if Mr. Kaman and his band of merry men would have done a background check on her, they would have chosen differently. It amazes me the time, effort, and man hours it takes to hire a probationary officer but yet we can hire a chief on a resume. You would think that their background would be extensive, knowing there the ones who are going to lead troops.

Bottom line, if she would have spent as much time cleaning her house (get rid of the dominating/abusive husband) and not spending all that time with Timmy, than she would have had more time to consult her people and we wouldn't be in this mess!!

Taxpayer

If you want to open up Nuesse's private life, be prepared to open up all of yours. A lot of you have done a plethora of crazy things that does not need to be known. Yes, LE are supposed to be LE 24/7. But, you and I know that is just a concept. There are many LE officers from all departments that have chosen deviant behavior both on and off duty. So, who cares? It is no one's business. But, if you want it to be, then be my guest. What is good for one is good for the other, right? All I care about is what she did at WORK. If you want to use the premise that her personal life affected her work life, then get ready to explain why your personal life is the causal factor for what you are doing. If you cannot justify her termination by her performance, then your case is weak. It is like me accusing you for poor performance because many of you steal, lie, run around, cheat on your wives, your husbands, your kids, involved in domestic disputes, insubordination, financial matters, substance abuse and everything else that involves human participation. Be careful about dragging in personal life with professional life. I do not care about Nuesse and her personal problems because ALL of you have the same problems if not more. If Neusse was involved with malfeasance in office then she deserves to be terminated. This hearing is about her WORK performance, NOT her home performance.

Anonymous

So then if Nuesse is out for a night on the town with her friends and gets a DUI that should not affect her at work??? I have a hard to believing that she would or should be able to stay on the job after that. Most of the time officers are bringing their work home, not home to work. The divorce rate is very hight amoungs Police officers because of what they put up with every day and the hours the work. The SR is the reason we all know about her personal life so it must be important stuff for a Chief to live by standards. Or maybe she should be demoted like everyone else!

Taxpayer

You STILL do NOT get it. When you are arrested, it becomes a matter of public record. The press and the public has access to the court dockets. Do they constantly look for names they know? Of course. Why? Because it is news and sells. Just ask a few area LE officers that were arrested. YOU or anyone else cannot stop it. I am sure you wish you could. Using a DUI is a weak example. Keep trying.