Sorry About The Long Grass And Lack Of Blogging. I Have To Deal With Budget Cuts (Status Update At End Of Article)

Bryan Dubois
Mar 23, 2010

Indeed.

The great and wise Northern Spotted Owl says:

Really, I'm done on this issue.  The city's been beat up enough over it.  Besides, I think the voters are going to straighten out the mess come November...

The "outsider" will attempt to straighten out the backward thinking at city hall.  Gonna be one hell of a fight.  I hear there's already been a failed attempt to disqualify her candidacy.

And I don't want to end this post, so it's going to be long winded...kinda like a Craig Stahl explanation on how he's related to everyone of consequence who's lived in Sandusky over the past 50 years, which would include the author* of this recent letter to the editor:

(*Don Huntley Sr. is Craig Stahl's uncle.  I know, i know.  Don't choke on your coffee.  You knew there was some reason the SYC was about to get the Perry Street right-of-way without a fight, didn't ya?)

Anyway, isn't the letter hilariously transparent?

 Line by line, of course.

The pompous rich man says:

I have owned my own business in Sandusky since 1956. I moved my business into downtown Sandusky when everyone else moved out, employing up to 35 people until my semi-retirement in 1992. I still own the property and run a small company at 133 E. Market St.

The translation:

I am a prominent local business man therefore, I should be allowed special rights and privileges.  (I'm setting up my case to let my club do whatever they please with Sandusky's waterfront.)

I joined the Sandusky Yacht Club in 1956, was commodore in 1974, trustee for two terms.

I'm a really old but important guy at the Yacht Club.

SYC and the city of Sandusky were always good friends and that’s the way it should be. When the lawsuit was filed, it was a sad day for me and for Sandusky.

We were always good friends - until our members (or relatives) on the commission weren't able to deliver to us the city's resources which we desired.

Cooler heads prevailed as the city and SYC worked things out. 

I was upset until the idea of "emergency legislation" was brought up and the city was about to give us exactly what we wanted without a fight!

The yacht club has grown into one of the few premier locations on the waterfront, spending millions of dollars on house and grounds and of course our fantastic marina.

It's a private club - but don't worry about that because our marina is AWESOME!  Come on, you know you love looking at our boats!

This has been done with our own funds.

We used our own money!  Not like that dirty bird Eymann and his pie-in-the-sky 'marina district' quest for federal stimulus funds!

We also built the break wall coming off of the Meigs Street Pier with our own funds. This cost the club in the neighborhood of a couple of hundred thousand dollars.

(We would've blocked community access to that breakwall if  it weren't for that Tim Schwinger - or whatever his name is!  Believe me, putting that damn sidewalk in was no picnic either.  Now we have to endure the unsightly homeless-looking pedestrians as they walk around our marina...believe me, that's no picnic either.)

This has all been done with our own funds. 

Did I mention that we did it with our own money?  We have lots of it.

The yacht club has grown into becoming one of Sandusky’s larger employers. This is great for city income tax. 

("Larger" is a great word, don't you think?  It's undefined and open to interpretation.)

A club growing as fast as we are always has problems. We need room for parking, boat docking and other projects. This will also include transient dockage for the city, 

(In the end, we'll CONTROL that dockage - but it still sounds  good, doesn't it?)

If you don’t help us, you may kill the goose that laid the golden egg for the city.

I'm an arrogant son-of-a-gun, ain't I?  But I'm allowed to be, because the golden eggs we lay on a daily basis are worth more than you make all year!   My club is "the goose that laid the golden egg" compared to every other business or organization in this entire crappy city!

Clubs or companies that can’t expand become dormant and go by the wayside or move. 

Yeah!  We're gonna move!  Who needs "water" for a "yacht club" anyway?!

I am confident the Sandusky Yacht Club is not asking for a free lunch.

We're not asking for free lunch - we're asking for free property!

We have always paid our own way and always will. Please listen to the terms of the agreement...

We're not shiesters.  I PROMISE!  Give us the land, now!  Damn it!  Please...pretty please?  With sugar on top and a big chocolate covered cherry?

...not negative reporting. This only sells newspapers. 

Stupid, hot-damn Sandusky Register...

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At last night's commission meeting, city resident Deidre Cole stepped up to the podium and delivered this address:

Meanwhile, city manager Matt Kline wonders why residents are so angry.

During his interview with the Sandusky Register, Kline explained that he received an overwhelming response from people who were upset with the John Hamilton arrest.  They wrote from all over the country.  Kline spoke specifically of a woman from Tennesee who he described as "angry" with the city of Sandusky:

 

"Maybe it's the economy," says Kline.  [Chuckle.]  Guess again, Mr. Kline.

Kline apologized for his snarky email to Sharon Johnson.  That's good.  It's a start.  But do you feel that Kline has a grip on what upsets citizens and do you think Kline has a genuine interest in changing it?

UPDATE:  Going on a vacation for a little while.  Feel free to keep posting comments, but  the site is on standby for awhile...

Comments

Darkhorse

You say Kline apologized to the citizens and Sharon Johnson, however, I never heard where he actually did apologized. He just stated he owed one, he never actually gave one.

John Doe

411 you NAILED it with this article! !  GREAT post! !  Kline & the city commissioners should be required to read this one because it contains sooooo much common sense - something they lack.   But then maybe it's just wishful thinking on my part that by them reading this article it will automatically endow them with common sense....and, sadly, we know that won't happen.  And so the fight continues......................

To Grayghost - I thought the same thing when I viewed that entire video on that particular SR article a few days ago.  Even though the city dropped the charges, they think they were in the right from the beginning and are just acting like bullies saying they may reinstate them at a later date.  GIVE ME A BREAK.  I read on the "Clerk of Court Watch" blog site a quote that we can rewrite slightly for our "wonderful" (cough, cough) elected city officials, "We (the citizens and tax payers) are their employer - they works for US."  If they don't get or understand that fact, then it's time to vote them the he77 out and get people in there that do understand that important little fact.

Personally I'm sick and tired of all the BS that has been going on in our city government for way too long.  As the old saying goes, "Vote the Bastards out!" 

Bryan Dubois

Good point, Grayghost. 

Bryan Dubois

Just got an email from Sharon Johnson:

Darkhorse

Wow;  you are correct we are past time to vote out these 5 commissioners who just do not get it, they work for the people. After saying that, the problem comes from people who blindly vote because of name and the same shysters get back in. We need to keep bringing out these blunders and uncitizen like behavior of the sitting commissioners. They need to get their noses out of the behinds of their special interest group friends and start listening to and reacting for the majority of the citizens. The SYC deal will do nothing for the rest of the public, the MD will do nothing for the rest of the public. We need commissioners who will stand up to these big deal, money grubbing, land grabbing, people. If your project is so great go buy some private land and develope it, quit trying to get something for nothing and taking away the publics land.

Julie R.

A miracle has occurred today because I am agreeing with my adversary (enemy) John Doe who said as the old saying goes, "Vote the Bastards out"!

John Doe

As the great philosopher Homer simpson would say,  "D'UH !"    :)

crummybuttlord

poking fun at budget cuts?  weren't you the one who told me that we have a spending problem?  what exactly do you "save our shoreline parks/kaman/waddington/jason singer" folks think that nuesse will do to improve this city?  doesn't anyone care that she has filed a lawsuit against sandusky?  you people are fueled by conspiracy theories and revenge, but there isn't one positive, productive, revenue generating idea among you.  those of us who see that the register is nothing but a rag that prints gossip and NEVER gets the other side of the story, can see that you have your own agendas as well.  agendas that are not good for this city or it's citizens.

Bryan Dubois

Your comments deserve more than a one line response...your statements are in bold.

poking fun at budget cuts?  weren't you the one who told me that we have a spending problem? 

Yes Crummybuttlord, I did say that Sandusky has a spending problem.  When the city makes cuts, they cut in the wrong places.  Lesson for ya:  In management, nobody wants excuses.  They want results.  Kline is full of excuses.

what exactly do you "save our shoreline parks/kaman/waddington/jason singer" folks think that nuesse will do to improve this city? 

This is what I think, Crummybuttlord:  She'll set her personal feelings aside in order to lead the city with efficiency and professionalism.  At least that's what I believe based on watching how she handled the personal attacks on her and her family.  (She never lashed back...simply dealt with it based on the philosophy of professionalism no matter what tactics the other side used.  That's a great example for subordinates and citizens alike.)  Would you disagree with these statements, crummybuttlord?

doesn't anyone care that she has filed a lawsuit against sandusky? 

Does it bother you that the lawsuit is based on wrongdoing committed against her?  You'd rather back the wrongdoers instead of hoping that Nuesse gets a fair shake?

you people are fueled by conspiracy theories and revenge,

"You people?"  I'm just one guy, crummybuttlord.  And I've got  nothing to avenge.  Don't have a dog in this race.  But I believe in justice and fighting for what's right.  Btw, would you care to support any of your statements?   I'm listening.

but there isn't one positive, productive, revenue generating idea among you. 

Oh, really?

those of us who see that the register is nothing but a rag that prints gossip and NEVER gets the other side of the story, can see that you have your own agendas as well. 

I'm not the Register, Crummybuttlord.

agendas that are not good for this city or it's citizens.

What agendas would those be, Crummybuttlord?  Care to specify, or can't you?

Bryan Dubois

Hi "Crummybuttlord."

Nuesse represents professionalism in public service.  The city's job isn't to create revenue.  Their job is to provide quality public services.  They do this most effectively when they get out of the way of people who actually make money and move the economy.  Any other questions?

crummybuttlord

the government should accomodate business and development that CREATES revenue.  if i were you, i'd ease off on the snide "lesson for ya" comments when your example of an good idea is another skate park.  who is going to pay for that?  how long would it take to pay for itself before it made the city any money.  new parks and rec centers would be great!  there's just one problem....WE CAN'T AFFORD IT!!!!!  are you insane???  i saw your other great ideas...like the arch sign over the bridge.  what's next, a soda machine in the cafeteria?  your reasons for supporting nuesse are equally as childish.  you want to give her the seat because you like the way she "handled the personal attacks on her and her family".  i'll bet you voted for W because he was somebody you "felt like you could have a beer with" too.  one more thing...just because kaman and waddington cuddle up with you at the coffee shop every saturday, dosen't make them good city leaders.  you criticize kline about wasteful spending.  why not take a shot at their "pet" projects?  you said the government is responsible to provide good services.  those services cost money.  kline hasn't been given much to work with since he got here.  you can blame kline for tall grass, or you can look a little deeper (hard for you) and ask yourself "what has my beloved kaman and waddington done for this city since they've been here?"  we can keep firing every city manager that steps foot in here, but in the end nothing will be any different.  just like the browns.  a new quarterback every year and they still suck.

Bryan Dubois

Crummybuttlord's lines are in bold, as usual:

The government should accomodate business and development that CREATES revenue.  if i were you, i'd ease off on the snide "lesson for ya" comments when your example of an good idea is another skate park. 

Snidery is just the way I roll.  If you don't like it, feel free to never visit again.  Crummybuttlord.

who is going to pay for that?  how long would it take to pay for itself before it made the city any money. 

That would depend on who would see the advantage of sponsoring skate contests and who has the marketing skills to bring that type of activity into the city.  Do you have any of those skills, crummybuttlord?

new parks and rec centers would be great!  there's just one problem....WE CAN'T AFFORD IT!!!!!  are you insane??? 

How much money does it take to move a skate ramp system and to build a halfpipe?  Hey, if nobody likes that idea, why not turn the Pavilion into a music venue.  An ampitheatre?  A rec center?  Sandusky already owns it, why don't they use it for something more than "special events?"

i saw your other great ideas...like the arch sign over the bridge.  what's next, a soda machine in the cafeteria? 

The arch would be a nice finishing touch for a newly paved road underneath.  But the city has neglected that concept for too long and now the city's entire street system needs repair and Sandusky doesn't have the money to do it.  Not brain surgery, crummybuttlord.  By the way, crummybuttlord, how much does it cost to cut down a tree in front of the city sign?  Or don't you think that the city sign is important enough to see?  These are simple marketing ideas, but the city is clueless.  You know what they say, crummybuttlord:  If you can't take care of the little things, you won't be trusted to take care of the big things.  But you probably already knew that didn't you, crummybuttlord?

your reasons for supporting nuesse are equally as childish. 

Professionalism is childish?  You must be a big fan of the establishment.  Who were the childish whiners through that entire fiasco?  (Wasn't Nuesse, was it?)

you want to give her the seat because you like the way she "handled the personal attacks on her and her family". 

Yep.  The city is under pressure.  Nuesse has already shown she's grace under pressure.  She ain't no dummy.  Won't really have to campaign at all, will she?  You guys did it for her!

i'll bet you voted for W because he was somebody you "felt like you could have a beer with" too. 

I don't drink beer.  Takes too much effort and it makes me urinate too much.

one more thing...just because kaman and waddington cuddle up with you at the coffee shop every saturday...

I'm not into guys, crummybuttlord.  If you are, that's fine.  It's a free country.

...dosen't make them good city leaders. 

Perhaps not, but at least they're honest.  I'd rather have honest and open government than shady backroom dealing with people who have ulterior motives for public service.

you criticize kline about wasteful spending. 

I criticize Kline for not having the balls to make tough decisions and to cut command staff in the SPD and SFD.  Service command structures are top heavy - but he'll cut the positions that affect basic city services.

why not take a shot at their "pet" projects? 

Specify?

you said the government is responsible to provide good services.  those services cost money. 

Which Sandusky has plenty of...

kline hasn't been given much to work with since he got here. 

Agreed.

you can blame kline for tall grass,

No.  Kline is just part of the system that perpetuates the status quo - which got Sandusky where it is today.  You are part of that manner of thinking too, crummybuttlord. 

or you can look a little deeper (hard for you) and ask yourself "what has my beloved kaman and waddington done for this city since they've been here?" 

They do what they do honestly and openly.  That's all you can ask of them.  If somebody else steps up who impresses the voters more, Wad and Kaman will be voted out - and the new people will be voted in.

we can keep firing every city manager that steps foot in here, but in the end nothing will be any different.  just like the browns.  a new quarterback every year and they still suck.

True....true.....what has to change is the way Sandusky does business...and you ain't helpin' any crummybuttlord.

Karl Hungus-Mr....

Ummmm....  Wad and Kaman have no choice but to be voted out....well I should say term limited out. 

Crummybutlord may have a horrible name, but he does have a couple good points in the last few posts.  We keep bringing in outsiders as city managers, then expect them to work miracles.  Granted I have a lot more sympathy for what some Commissioners did to Will (well mainly Waddington) than Kline. 

I hate to say it, and I am sure that I will be beat up over it and the "snide" comments will roll right and left but....well here it goes.....I have Nuesse fatigue.  Remember when they said that the American people had "War Fatigue" from all the reporting on the Iraq war.  That is how I am starting to feel about Nuesse.  I know that she does not have much control over how much the Register covers her,  However, everytime I see her name in a headline now I cannot help but to sigh and say "when will this be over, I am sick of it".  From talking to others I know I am not the only one that feels this way.  This drama has to stop inorder to start healing the rift in this city.   I hate to say it but it is the truth, it is how I feel and others I have talked to have said they feel.  To be honest the main reason I am saying this is so it can be brought to Ms. Nuesse's and her campaign worker's (if she has them) attention.  The last thing I want to see is Warner or Stahl elected.

Now, this does not mean that I will not vote for her or do not support her.  I will have to see who else is running and what they have to say.  I find it amazing that as soon as Nuesse declares that she is running people want to jump on her bandwagon.  We have not had even one debate yet, and we do not even know who else is going to run.   I think that shows how people vote.  Of course if I had to choose between between Stahl and a dead catfish, I would choose the catfish, so I do see thier excitement.

Ok, let the flaming begin.....but remember sometimes you learn the most from those that you disagree with.  Just because you do not see eye to eye with someone (even if he does have a horrible profile name) does not mean that he has some valid points.

crummybuttlord

you criticize kline for not having the balls to cut command staff at spd?  think about what you just said for a minute.  by the way, i think i have a lovely name.

Karl Hungus-Mr....

Well, I guess that is what I get for sticking up with for a guy......  There is now pleasing people anywhere on this website.

crummybuttlord

i was trying to point out to 411 how ridiculous he sounds when in one breath he criticizes kline for what he did to poor old nuesse, and the next for not having the "balls" to cut out management positions at SPD.  how does 411 know that SPD and SFD are too heavy at the top?  does he think that there should't be anyone in charge or accountable?   no doubt one of his sweeping generalizations.  411 in a nutshell:  OVER-OPINIONATED & UNEDUCATED.  the comment to you was only about how much i like my name, and i was pleased with your post.

crummybuttlord

so let's say they do turn surf's up into an ampitheatre.  first of all, it's a horrible idea.  if you didn't know, there are outdoor concerts every weekend downtown.  if you charged every person who attended $5, there still wouldn't be enough money to pay for such a project.  knowing you, $5 would be too much to charge for sandusky citizens, so you would get in bed with some commissioner who would eventually make it free.  then more general fund money would sink into this ridiculous project.  does any of this ring a bell?  you think that if we build all these parks and ampitheatres and beaches that people will flock from all over to live in sandusky.  just go visit benton harbor michigan (the CRG's poster city for successfully putting the strong arm to economic development) and see how well everyone is doing.  wake up, man.  BTW, i will read your posts and comment as often as i can.  i can see a very good relationship developing between us already.

Bryan Dubois

so let's say they do turn surf's up into an ampitheatre.  first of all, it's a horrible idea.  if you didn't know, there are outdoor concerts every weekend downtown. 

Those concerts aren't inside the Sandusky Bay Ampitheatre - the popularity of which builds interest and momentum and becomes a gathering point for businesses to cater to the people who attend the events.

if you charged every person who attended $5, there still wouldn't be enough money to pay for such a project. 

We're talking ideas here, crummybuttlord.  Like I said before:  No excuses.  Find a way.   No one idea can save the city, but promoting good business and creating synergy in the city will turn it around.  Once again, the city cannot create money - they can only provide the right circumstances, conditions for private enterprise to flourish.  Can't do that until faith in the leadership is restored...and the city must look good, hence cut down that stupid tree in front of the city sign and fix the roads...

knowing you, $5 would be too much to charge for sandusky citizens, so you would get in bed with some commissioner who would eventually make it free. 

There you go  again with those homosexual comments.  I told you before crummybuttlord, I'm not into men.  If you're looking for a partner there are probably many willing partners of your persuasion at Club X.

then more general fund money would sink into this ridiculous project.  does any of this ring a bell?  you think that if we build all these parks and ampitheatres and beaches that people will flock from all over to live in sandusky. 

No....maintain the parks...make the city presentable...provid solid public services....and the business will come....provide the right conditions. 

just go visit benton harbor michigan (the CRG's poster city for successfully putting the strong arm to economic development) and see how well everyone is doing. 

Nobody in this country is doing that well right now -- but Sandusky has the lakefront and CP going for it, so if they can't make it - nobody can.

wake up, man.  BTW, i will read your posts and comment as often as i can.  i can see a very good relationship developing between us already.

Don't think we're gonna be swapping spit in the shower 'til the wee hours of the morning....

crummybuttlord

"get in bed" or "cozy up to" are not homosexual comments.  they are figurative....so take it easy, chief.  you keep saying that government should stay out of the way of private enterprise, but hasn't that been the goal of your pals kam and wad and the crg.  quite frankly, getting in the way of economic development seems to be #1 on their agenda.  you agree that the city should provide good services, but you are first to jump on kline when the grass gets tall.  the grass is tall because the city is running out of money.  there are not enough people working in this city to pay the income tax necessary to support it's services.  50 city jobs have been cut in the last few years.  that is why the grass is tall.  there is no conspiracy.  now kam/wad/crg is getting all moist about this coal tar plume.  another burden on our few remaining businesses (sandusky international...kaman's shot at revenge) and eventually utlity consumers.  p.s.  the reason i trash kam and wad in this blog is because of your unquestionable love for them.  and i don't mean in a gay way so RELAX

Bryan Dubois

Crummybuttlord's comments are in bold:

"get in bed" or "cozy up to" are not homosexual comments.  they are figurative....so take it easy, chief. 

You take it easy.  I'm just messin' with ya. Voice over loudspeaker:  "Mr. Crummybuttlord, please report to the lost-and-found. Somebody just turned in your sense-of-humor."

you keep saying that government should stay out of the way of private enterprise, but hasn't that been the goal of your pals kam and wad and the crg.  quite frankly, getting in the way of economic development seems to be #1 on their agenda. 

I will ask them these questions - and if they're willing they can answer them in a podcast.  If that's the public perception, it needs to be addressed publicly.

you agree that the city should provide good services, but you are first to jump on kline when the grass gets tall. 

I think if an accounting/efficiency expert audited the city's finances and business methods, the grass would get cut...

the grass is tall because the city is running out of money.  there are not enough people working in this city to pay the income tax necessary to support it's services. 

Yes.  Agreed.  And what is your answer for that?

50 city jobs have been cut in the last few years.  that is why the grass is tall.  there is no conspiracy. 

Never suggested that there is a conspiracy.  Well - perhaps an unwitting conspiracy by people who act out of ignorance - but city government's methods have quickened the economic decline of Sandusky.   Many people have a bad taste in their mouth because of their history with Sandusky.  Many businessmen acknowledge that working with city government to develop their businesses is extremely difficult - nearly impossible.  I know contractors who refuse to do work in Sandusky because the red tape isn't worth dealing with.

now kam/wad/crg is getting all moist about this coal tar plume.  another burden on our few remaining businesses (sandusky international...kaman's shot at revenge) and eventually utlity consumers.  p.s.  the reason i trash kam and wad in this blog is because of your unquestionable love for them.  and i don't mean in a gay way so RELAX

I don't have unquestioning love for them.  I just think that honest and open government should be the model that Sandusky should strive for.  Those two are the only ones who seem to do things in the open.  The others don't - and the reason may not be sinister.  It might just be that they're poor leaders who really don't know how to set an example.  Take for example the fact that the ex-officio mayor describes himself as a "politician" -- as if that's something to be proud of.  No more "statesman" around - just people who refer to themselves with terms that most voters use pejoratively.

Bryan Dubois

Crummybuttlord's comments are bolded...

i was trying to point out to 411 how ridiculous he sounds when in one breath he criticizes kline for what he did to poor old nuesse, and the next for not having the "balls" to cut out management positions at SPD.

As I said before he cuts the wrong positions and targets the wrong people.  Nuesse is an example of how the entire organization should conduct themselves.  But she ends up being the only one run out...Crummybuttlord, consider that Kline's actions brought on costly civil litigation.  For being an administrator, Kline did an extremely poor job of protecting the city from legal liability.   Are you truly this retarded?  Did you pick up an extra chromosome on your way home from work today?  (Some snidery for you...got plenty more...if you like it, keep making these inane arguments and waiting for the generous responses.)

  how does 411 know that SPD and SFD are too heavy at the top? 

Because I talk to people...people who know and understand what's going on in the city.  I don't pretend to know everything - but I know leadership when I see it and how the system should work. 

does he think that there should't be anyone in charge or accountable?  

Of course there should be someone accountable - but the system must be set up in such a way that the administrators can't pass the buck because there's too many of them.  As an example:  At no time should there be confusion about who is in charge of the SPD's drug enforcement unit.  Too many chiefs making too much money and passing the buck when things go wrong because there are so many administrators that nobody knows who's actually in charge.  Everyone positions themselves for plausible deniability.  Another example:  7 commissioners, none of which can be help accountable because they're only 1 of 7 on the commission.  No elected public official who is ultimately "in charge."  Information isn't uniformly shared with the commission, you've got secret meetings, lack of transparency, horrible PR efforts....Sandusky is a mess and it's because there are no strong leaders who are good at consensus building...

no doubt one of his sweeping generalizations.  411 in a nutshell:  OVER-OPINIONATED & UNEDUCATED. 

I've been educated the hard way.  if you think you've got the right perspective, educate me then, crummybuttlord....I'd love to hear your perspective...(if only for the entertainment.)  Come on.....

crummybuttlord

i still don't understand why you are so passionate about nuesse.  it is not "retarded" to look at her from a different perspective than the register does, and decide that maybe she just wasn't right for the job.  sometimes people get fired.  should every business expect to get sued after they let someone go?  should kline sue the city after nuesse gets elected and fires him out of retribution?  would there even be a lawsuit if nuesse was a man?  do you really think nuesse has any vested interest in this town?  you don't find it disturbing that she is suing the city that she loves so much and wants to change?  why don't you ever blame her for the cost of litigation?  you really think that kline touching her shoulder was sexual harassment, or is that frivolous?  would an honest person file a frivolous lawsuit? 

since you finally agreed with me that the city has a revenue problem, you must consider that your sources may be wrong about department management.  yesterday you wanted more city workers cut.  now the grass is tall and you want to see management cut.  that's the problem with you, kam and wad.  cutting services is not a solution.  any monkey could do that.  government has to try and provide services, right?  i should have assumed that you support the "strong mayor" form of government, because kaman does.  the thought of him as mayor frightens me more than nuesse as commissioner.  running a city is a lot different than running an ice cream store.  i thought he would have found that out by now.

Bryan Dubois

Crummy,  sorry for lack of response.  I've been illin' - and not in a Beastie-Boys-Hip-Hop sort of way either.

Your comments are bolded, as usual:

i still don't understand why you are so passionate about nuesse. 

I'm not "passionate" about Nuesse.  I simply like her style.  She has been professional no matter what happened to her.  If you heard some of the stories about what the Sandusky cops did to her - you'd probably feel the same way.  Those stories don't make it to the newspaper because newspapers don't write for individuals.  They bring information to the public.  If unethical tactics were used against Nuesse, then unethical tactics can be used against anyone - and that's something everyone should stand against.  In my opinion, the SR simply told the story.  Sure, Westerhold isn't perfect (I completely disagree with how he handled the concealed carry lists), but the SR decided to stay on top of the story, tell every detail so the public could decide whether it was right or wrong. Were they "biased?"  I don't think telling a story is evidence of bias.  Sticking with a story is their job.  As far her Nuesse personally, she's easy to defend because she fights a clean battle.  She hasn't engaged in the mudslinging - which tells me that she's the right kind of person to lead in times of crisis. 

it is not "retarded" to look at her from a different perspective than the register does, and decide that maybe she just wasn't right for the job.

Being "right" for the job is entirely dependent on your perspective.  If you believe in the status quo, then no, she wasn't the right person for the job.  If you believe that the SPD is 20 years behind the times, then Nuesse is the right person for the job - and she was run out by people who didn't want to change.

  sometimes people get fired.  should every business expect to get sued after they let someone go?  

Even a fast food restaurant must have a documented reason to fire somebody.  So yes, if a municipality fires a police chief without a reason - or for defective reasons, then I would say yes, prepare to be sued.

should kline sue the city after nuesse gets elected and fires him out of retribution? 

If and when Nuesse is elected, the entire mood of the city will change.  People will feel relieved, motivated - kinda like voters felt after they elected Barack Obama.  (Or said they did.)  Nuesse is the kind of person who creates synergy.  An interest in  helping.  So to answer your question:  Kline would have to temper his attitude towards working professionally with new commissioners.  I personally don't think Nuesse would fire him because she'd have to abstain from the vote.  But the other 6 would feel empowered enough to fire him.  And I think they will.

would there even be a lawsuit if nuesse was a man? 

Would Matt Kline place his hands on a man's shoulders while he's speaking to all his department heads?

do you really think nuesse has any vested interest in this town? 

Yes.  She lives here.  If she was going to turn tail, she would've done it already.

you don't find it disturbing that she is suing the city that she loves so much and wants to change? 

In America we have a court system that people must use sometimes to hammer out disagreements.  In order to bring about change in a legal sense, you have to use the court  system.

why don't you ever blame her for the cost of litigation?  you really think that kline touching her shoulder was sexual harassment, or is that frivolous?  would an honest person file a frivolous lawsuit? 

Put yourself in her shoes for a moment and then answer your own questions.

since you finally agreed with me that the city has a revenue problem, you must consider that your sources may be wrong about department management.  yesterday you wanted more city workers cut. 

I never said that.  You're mistaken.

now the grass is tall and you want to see management cut. 

Correct.  The system is top heavy.  Let an efficiency expert go into the police department for a few weeks, analyze who does what, and shadow them for a few days and they can tell you exactly what positions must be cut and why.  I'll do it.  For free.  But I doubt the SPD would go for that...

that's the problem with you, kam and wad.  cutting services is not a solution.  any monkey could do that.  government has to try and provide services, right?  i should have assumed that you support the "strong mayor" form of government, because kaman does.

I don't support it just because Kaman does.  I understand large organizations and how checks, balances and accountability works.  A mayoral form of government is the best way to ensure accountability and streamlined decision making - which is what Sandusky needs right now.

  the thought of him as mayor frightens me more than nuesse as commissioner.  running a city is a lot different than running an ice cream store.  i thought he would have found that out by now.

No it's not.  There's a heckuva lot more to manage - but people are people.  Employees are employees.  We all have families and responsibilties and good managers know how to bring out the best in those around them and those who work underneath them. Get somebody who understands the big picture and with a little training and alot of wisdom they'll make a good manager.

Julie R.

I know that you and I don't see eye to eye on things but I will admit I do enjoy reading the majority of your blogs. This one was hilarious!

Minnow

This is in response to the Middle Class Translater who cannot identify himself.  You must have a really boring life if your gonna attack a retired old man.  Whats next with you??  Are you going to beat up a little girl and steal her ice cream cone??  I think your to scared to say your rude statements to his face...................IDENTIFY YOURSELF or go back down in your basement and play some more X-Box.  Let me guess you still live with your mommy,  you need a job,  your over weight, your house smells like rotten dog, your trash can is over flowing and you know the pizza man by his first name??  Get a life or do something it   !!!   Don't hide behind your computer.... 

Bryan Dubois

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This is in response to the Middle Class Translater who cannot identify himself.  You must have a really boring life if your gonna attack a retired old man. 

It's "you're" as in "you are"  not "your".  By the way:  I actually have a pretty exciting life.  I actually had to take time out of my busy day to attack the retired old man.  Between raising my kids, spending time on the Lake Erie islands, working full time and my extra-curricular writing and video projects, I don't have much time to attack retired old men.

Whats next with you??  Are you going to beat up a little girl and steal her ice cream cone??

If it's my favorite kind of ice cream: Toft's cookies and cream, there ain't no tellin' what I'd do!

  I think your to scared to say your rude statements to his face...................

Not really.  I've been known to say some pretty rude things right to people's faces.  I've toned it down quite a bit though.

IDENTIFY YOURSELF or go back down in your basement and play some more X-Box.

I don't have an X-Box, but I do have a Nintendo Wii.  Although I get a headache when I play it for more than an hour.  Honestly I find it more enjoyable watching my kids play it!  They have a great time doing that ski jump game on the Wii Fit.  My son really likes the tennis game too.

  Let me guess you still live with your mommy, you need a job,  your over weight,

No, but I do love my mom.  I'm employed full time and I'm actually right on target as far as Body Mass Index goes.  Pretty physically fit too.  Been working on getting back into running lately.  I'm running 3 miles in about 27 minutes which is pretty bad for me, but I'm working on it!  Give me a little while and I should have it back down to about 3 miles in just under 20 minutes.

your house smells like rotten dog,

No...we have one of those cute little Bischons.  I swear if he ever starts smelling "rotten" he's gone!!  I'm a super neat-freak.  I wouldn't let the kids get a dog that sheds because I didn't want to deal with the dander or fur.

your trash can is over flowing and you know the pizza man by his first name??

Pizza doesn't really agree with me.  I'm partial to sub sandwiches.

  Get a life or do something it   !!!   Don't hide behind your computer.... 

Allright!  Thanks!

Minnow

I'm sorry,  word on the street it that you live at home with your daddy.............and neither one of you can get a girl!!! Like I said before........get a life.......do something about it...........make a difference don't hide behind your computer!!!!  How about a job??? choo choo........I'm sure SYC is hiring a dishwasher or dock hand.  Well maybe dockhand is a bad idea,  we don't need you mingling with the public, who knows what you would tell them.  So come on down to the club and we'll get you a job. Mr. Huntley has alot of pull, I'm sure he would give you a good reference..................only if you step up, face the man and not hide behind your lap top!!!!  So the little country hick is gonna move to the big city and get a job????  Anything is possible.................

Bryan Dubois

What in the world are you talking about?