Sandusky Regurgitator: Local man changes beliefs after reading blog comment

Bryan Dubois
Dec 8, 2010

 

S A N D U S K Y --  A local man has completely changed his belief system after reading what he described as "an eye opening exchange in the Sandusky Register commenting section" under a blog post about presidential politics.

James Rathney, 48 of Sandusky, has been reading the Sandusky Register online for nearly four years.  He describes himself as 'slightly right' on the political spectrum - up until today, that is.

Rathney's beliefs were profoundly challenged - and eventually changed upon reading an exceptionally convincing two paragraph blog comment written by an anonymous commenter known only as "The Return Of Chung Lee's Dragon."

Mr. Dragon is somewhat of a newcomer to sanduskyregister.com, though according to Mr. Dragon, his wit and wisdom slice directly through the heart of the tea-bagging right wingnuts who frequently post there.  "My posts are full of logic, knowledge and insight. Your posts are not," said the rhetorically agile Mr. Dragon.

Dragon's efforts to battle for the hearts and minds of the weak-minded rightwingnuts have apparently paid off:

"I used to like George W. Bush. I thought he was a decent God-fearing gentleman until I read what Return of Chung Lee's Dragon said about him on the SR blogs," said Rathney. "I used to believe that Bush was a true leader who stood up against the global threat of terrorism...that he led this country through the aftermath of the worst terrorist attack in our history using time-tested and wise geo-political tactics and the knowledge and courage to recognize America's rightful standing as leaders of the free world.  But all of that changed today." Rathney explained.

According to Mr. Dragon, Bush has brought the United States to near ruin with his ridiculous economic and social policies which are built on a total lack of wisdom, facts, and logic, all of which are greatly possessed by Mr. Dragon.

"I'm a changed man after reading that," Rathney said. "I've never been so sure of something in all my life."

Rathney displayed slight agitation with himself for foolishly buying into right-wing propoganda that he believed for most of his life.  "I'd like to think that my personally held beliefs were built upon the rational thought and logic of free market capitalism, and the generally accepted traditional structure of society, but now that I've been exposed to the dizzying intellect of The Return Of Chung Lee's Dragon, I now know the truth about George W. Bush and all rightwingers in general."

Rathney also reported that his very personal and morally grounded views on abortion were radically changed after reading a two line comment written by a pro-choicer.

Comments

Raoul Duke

Lame Moderators have removed this comment because it supposedly contained obscenity, which in this case may be more like truth, or reality. I know I didn't use the f-word, or the s-word, or the c-word, or the cs-word, and especially not the mf-word. So, why not just remove the comment instead, if you didn't like what I had to say? It's your paper, and it is a free country. I'm also free to NOT patronize any of your advertisers.

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thinkagain

 Yes, YES!  I also see the light!  It’s like someone has removed the veil from my eyes.  For once I was blind, but now I see.  I thank the SR for allowing liberal loonies to endlessly regurgitate left wing propaganda.

MoonDog44870

 It is pathetic that people need to read entire comments in order to re-align their political philosophies, I learn enough just by reading samantha Adams tag over and over and whatever Winston Smith has to say.

Captain Gutz

My conversion comes from reading everything Brutus and Taxpayer write and melding the two together.

This has turned me into a fanatic middle of the roader.

glassman

 I like to take all the words that Taxpayer types in capitals and string them together using everyone else's misspelled words in order to make new and exciting comments that the various authors never intended. Strangely enough, what I end up with typically makes more sense then whats actually posted.

TOPGUN01

I WONDER HOW MANY REPUBLICANS ARE RUNNING OUT OF UNEMPLOYMENT?DO YOU WANT CHANGE NOW??

Captain Gutz

glassman,

 

Interesting technique. Do you include "words" such as libtard and repuke?

YAWWNN

If anonymous comments on a blog actually swayed Mr Rathney, rather than the research of facts then he was probably a RINO anyway.  He'll make a perfect Demokook since it appears he lacks the ability make informed decisions. LOL.  Cheer up Mr Rathney, Brutus will be glad to drive you to the polls every election and help choose the correct union, welfare, entitlement crowd approved candidates.

mankind

slow news day

6079 Smith W

@ Mr. Dubois:

A touching story (sniff, sniff). Thanks for sharing.

Reads like a miraculous conversion – almost St. Paul on the road to Damascus-like.

Is there a Marxist equivalent somewhere in perhaps N. Korea to that of the Vatican office, Congregation for the Causes of Saints to which this should be reported?

My "conversion" of backing away from belief in self-righteous authoritarianism and toward personal responsibility and self-sufficiency was one h*ll of lot tougher.

Just go out in the “real world”, work your keester off and keenly observe how what you produce is stolen by those elites who think that they know better on how to spend your capital.

 

Dick Tracey

Good, Mr. Rathney, now here, drink this Kool-Aid.

SamAdams

Thank you, Moondog!

I would hope Mr. Rathney's "Road to Damascus" conversion comes with a whole lot more than merely what he's "learned" from various and sundry blog entries! (Why do I get the feeling that Rathney was actually writing some excellent satire—so excellent that people are believing it—rather than any real story of real change? But I digress...)

I suspect that everybody changes their viewpoints over the course of their life. I know that I have, but my sea change wasn't based on blog entries or political hyperbole. It was a combination of maturity, real life experiences, and a refusal to ignore actual facts in the place of what I'd RATHER think. I contend that, if Rathney's flip-flop is real, it's not based on any of those things else he'd be a conservative libertarian type...

Dick Tracey, Kool-aid indeed!

kURT

Stated earlier I knew Bush was a liar regardless of party.

He lied about his veteran status. 

Anyone here that served knows what would happen to them if they were UA/AWOL.

Of course because of $$

We also know that he lacked the talent to be a pilot.

The documentary Bush Family Fortunes proved this.

Again - agree or dis-agree these blogs provide local truths & sometime much comedic relief.

MiddleRight

I think you have all missed the sarcasm dripping from Bryan's article. 

The point is, you can be as ruthless as you want to on here, but you aren't going to change anyone's mind.

Yes, you may make a couple of people look like fools(you know who you are) becuase they spout off opinion with no fact, but it is highly unlikely that you will change their life-long beliefs, especially if they take the time to post on here.

FST

 That is about as funny as somebody saying that Rev Ron showed them the way to God.  Besides,reading the comments in the SR is like reading the funnies in the cartoon section.

Unassumer

If a few intelligent comments could change the long held beliefs of many commenters and residents, I would comment 80 times a day!  But alas, everyone's stuck in popular opinion, old fashioned belief systems and political game playing that no amount of insight can penetrate that.

Kottage Kat

Having read the balderdash, and political drivel, seems as though nothing has changed my mind. I read, study and make informed decisions, as most semi intelligent person would. To those whom are so easily converted you have my best wishes.

Mr. Smith is a repetitious windbag whose says nothing remotely educational, and that is just one of the nice things I will say about him, lest the moderators be forced to work overtime. Brutus, Goof-us and their ilk, just more of the same rhetoric over and over. Hoping for change that does not seem to be on the horizon. God speed to all through the mire of nonsensical verbiage.

6079 Smith W

 

@ KK:   You help validate many of the reasons why I left several decades ago and only recently returned to the area for personal reasons.   Most everyone that I knew who got an education or that had initiative moved away due to lack of opportunity and the area’s steady decline in its standard of living.   And nothing has changed, college and high school graduates continue the migration.    It saddens me that many of those who remained are locked in an anti-intellectual mentality. But I guess that’s why they remained and prefer to eke out a living, freeze their thinking in the past and hope for a future that will never come.   You have a wonderful day Sweetums!

 

     
Kottage Kat

I stayed because I had family to help take care of, I am neither uneducated nor ignorant. I am more than capable of taking constructive criticism. I am very definitely NOT anti intelligence, NOT allowed in the home where I grew up, education and educational pursuits were required. I have no clue why you think you are educationally, and culturally more astute and better than everyone. Your haughty, snotty little narrow minded attitude does not impress me me one whit.  I don't give a toads toenail what you think of me, I am just here having fun and sharing my opinion, sans the name calling when possible. You are too stringent and unbending to make what you say have any merit, while all your links and quotes do validate what you are trying to say, they are no more than others and far more intelligent people have shared those. 

Sir, you are a legend in your own mind.

I bid you good day

kat;}

6079 Smith W

 

@ KK:

Once again; have a fantastic day Princess.

 

Kottage Kat

Thank you my little Prince of Fools, aka known as the court jester.  See you do have a sense of humor, I think???

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Return of Dragon

This is too funny.  Mr. Dubois makes a satirical rant and many of those who share his beliefs jump on the bandwagon without realizing his intent.  In a world where political detractors can claim that the POTUS is spending 200 billion a day on a recent trip to a important trade partner, be proven wrong, and yet have the story return time and time again in the echo chamber, it is no wonder how so many missed the attempt at sarcasm by Mr. Dubois.  People on these blogs have become accustomed to reading Mr. Dubois fact free rants and did not recognize this piece to be any different.  If Mr. Dubois is so certain that reading blogs does not change opinions........ why does he write a blog?  Clearly he believes he can do what others cannot.

Clearly, Mr. Dubois prefers a system where he can say whatever he wants and not be subjected to any scrutiny or demands of proof of his assertions.  Chung Lee would take him to school and make him look like a complete mindless shill so instead of getting the facts he chose to complain enough to get Chung Lee removed.  So when another poster comes around and gets the best of him instead of getting the facts he wants to call me Chung Lee even though I am Return of Dragon,  Then he engages in namecalling which resulted in his comments being taken down.  Only he missed the irony of his call for improving the civility on the blogs ended up leading to his comments being removed by the moderators!

As far as comments not having an impact on beliefs....... I believe there are a number of people around town that probably do not have very nice things to say about Mr. Dubois.  So in that aspect..... Mr. Dubois you have proven your own premise wrong.

 

 

 

stormy

Folks, you DO realize that Mr. Rathney's comments about being "converted" were strictly tongue-in-cheek, don't you?

Kottage Kat

Shhhhhhhh!!,

I* don't think Mr. Smith has a clue, just let him blather on a bit it is funny.

kat;}

brutus smith

 R.O.D. , that's why I didn't comment. I don't want to feed bryan's ego anymore than he self feeds it.

goofus

Facts? I prefer staid old moonbat talking points. Chung lee's favorite pastime when confronted with an argument he couldn't refute would always include a discussion as to the other person's sexual preference. Kottage Kat, I merely post things that you will never see on the lamestream media, funny I'm still awaiting fact checks on anyone of my articles and I have never heard of any of my sources being arrested for lying.

Kottage Kat

Not questioning the validity, just noting the continual repitition of fact. No harm No foul.

kat;}

FST

Isn`t it funny how whenever goofus makes a comment that 6079smith is usually the next to comment agreeing and it even goes the other way most of the time? It sure is sad when one person has to have 2 different names to comment under just so they have somebody to agree with them?
6079smith had to come up with another name because he couldn`t find anybody far enough out there to agree with him. LOL Now THAT is desperation at it`s finest.

6079 Smith W

 

@ FST:   What me goofus?   Someone with only half-a-brain would notice that the writing, format and contextual styles are totally different.   I ain’t that good, nor would I ever what to work that hard to deal with the likes of you Peachy Pie.   Have a nice rest of the day.    

 

goofus

Kottage Kat, I don't believe I repeat my self that much except when trying to prove the left is wrong. Try this

How Liberalism is Like a Disney Movie

Gregory Oatis

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Disney movies are aimed at kids. They use children's sense of powerlessness as a key plot device.



Liberals have cultivated that same feeling of powerlessness to the point that it has become an entire narcissistic, victim-centric worldview.


In short, like children attracted to Disney movies, liberals have yet to grow up and accept responsibility for their own existences.


So, here are the ten top ways the liberal view of reality resembles a Disney movie:


10) Liberals'  entire universe is divided into Good Guys and Bad Guys, Nice People and Mean People, Us. vs. Them.


9) Liberals are powerless; their puny little lives are controlled by big ugly mean monsters or corporations that don't care and want to hurt them.


8) Birds and animals and fish and trees can think and feel and talk.


7) Transportation can be effected with little or no fuel consumption, via vehicles such as broomsticks, magic carpets and pixie dust. Much like the cute little hybrids and electric cars liberals love.


6) There is no God, just an unreasoning faith in some inchoate force you might as well call "The Circle of Life."


5) Reality revolves entirely around what they are thinking, feeling and experiencing, as if the universe were a movie in which they had the starring role.


4) Nobody understands or appreciates them. And this fact is somehow of the utmost importance.


3) Collapsing in a puddle of tears is an effective coping strategy; they expect someone to turn up who actually cares.


2) There's no hope at all for a happy ending unless someone more powerful than they magically comes and saves them. In their case, though, it's not a fat genie or a fairy godmother. Instead, it's some heroic and compassionate government initiative.


And the Number One way that liberals view the world as a Disney movie...


1) To get something, they don't think they should have to plan for it or work for it or sacrifice. Instead, they should only have to want the thing a whole, whole, whole, whole lot. (Wishing on a star optional.)
Kottage Kat

I have read "How to talk to a Liberal if you must"  I do enjoy the commentary and input, so have to practice just in case I want to join the Troll Union someday.

Oh!!! Mr. Smith, you rascal do have a way with words, please remember, modesty is the better part of valour, perhaps I have quoted that in error, and if so, please feel free to correct me.  Thank you

kat;}

goofus

FST, me Winnie? Winnie is way too intellectual for me, he's got book smarts, I'm just a dumb old conservative blogging in the memory of William F. Buckley. Golly Mr. FST youins sure are smart though, wouldn Winnie ever post the claptrap I just posted.

Return of Dragon

Headline should be "Aspiring blogger turns to satire while followers fail to recognize change".

6079 Smith W
@ ROD:   Don’t be so dense; you’re belaboring your misguided point.   Of course “we” knew it was a farce. Part of the fun of a gag is sometimes playing along isn’t it?   Admit it; it was well written and funny.   Come on Cupcake, you should be grateful that you got BD to write a whole piece about you.   So seriously, when was your “conversion” to the darkside of socialism or are you a “Red diaper baby?”   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_diaper_baby  

(And some have the nerve to write that I’m not educational.) LOL

 

Pastor Ron

The blogs are a blessing that I use to get out God's word.  I praise the Lord Jesus every day for this opportunity to spread his word.  Glory to Jesus.  May the Christmas season remind those sinners out there that they will be judged for their sins!

kURT

To winnie Smith6079.....nobody likes you.

6079 Smith W
@ kURT:   

Are you writing that you’re a “nobody” Pork Chop?

MoonDog44870

 All I want for Christmas is for CountryCowboy to rise back up from the ashes of the moderators guidelines and bestow his wisdom upon us.

6079 Smith W
@ KK:   Do I recall a posting of yours' wherein you referred to me as a "windbag?"   So now we’re back to that nonsense of where when I respond to an epithet or innuendo directed at me, I’m a troll?   Here’s my suggestion once again for your consumption Oh Enlightened One:   Why don’t you improve the quality of the postings, and upgrade the content? Lead by example and show everyone how it should be done.   "HTTTALIYM"? Paged through it - not interested.    

Kottage Kat

Perhaps kind sir you need to read what I said,saying I needed the practice in case I wanted to join the Trolls union. Unfortunately it is "not all about you", and I actually did not even have you in mind. Delusions of grandeur, you are having, and as I said you are a legend in your own mind.  I am not back peddling, I am clarifying for you,  Actually whomever said " No one likes you," they were quite wrong. I think you are a hoot, and having been raised amongst the wealthy, little people such as yourself amuse me with your rhetoric, and your feeble attempts to project intelligence, and even make me believe you have some class which in your case is severely lacking.

I find your tasteless name calling, and childish behaviour quite amusing. All your comments lack is nah nah na, You attempt to retaliate to those whom you think are "picking on" poor little you. For goodness sake, take it like a man. Develop a thick skin and use your so called intelligence to enlighten, not inflame.  Your are the neighborhood kid we took snipe hunting. Quit whining and just flap your fingers. Now if this does not have your boxers in a knot, I will try harder the next time.  TTFN

stormy

Yo, Fire-Breathing Boomerang:

Assuming that you are NOT our dearly departed Charlie Chan impersonator, why have you accused Mr. Dubois of having ol' Chung's plug pulled?  You have written this on at least one other thread, and on this one at 12:55 today, but this "fact" has not been established.  Where's your proof????

Dubois mentioned, on another thread, that he was AWARE of Chung getting his ticket punched.  He did not say that he had anything to do with it.  I am aware of the Earth's rotation; do you think I cause it?  

stormy

Now this is interesting; two conservatives fighting.  You never see libs do that.

Kottage Kat

Stormy,

I am not fighting with him, nor did I call him a troll, read people. I would not tell him he is factual or "right on", because HE s already aware of that.  Just do not like people who come across as " better than", and for those who did not grasp the concept, most of what I said was tongue in cheek.  Didn't say he was wrong , did not say he was right, just the attitude with which he presents his rhetoric,  I am just here having fun and throwing in an opinion or 2.  Just do not take it as serious as Mr. Smith does.  Besides politic's and all the quotes and cuts and pastes, just are reading material for me.

I don't have to be right, I have to be happy.  And I am, very. Just threw in the Ann Coulter to get him going. For those of the other side, I have read Audacity of Hope also, and sorry I hated it, Mr. Obama writes like Mr. Smith.  Now that should really roll his oats. Tee Hee.

Return of Dragon

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stormy

George Foreman still kicked butt at 50, scaly dude.  And if you can't differentiate between an invitation and a threat, perhaps you should head for a zoo, where you can watch the turtles go streaking by.

I'm not going to answer all of your questions, because I'd be repeating myself.  I answered several of them the other day on another thread ("Journalism is Destroying our Community," or something to that effect; can't look it up while typing here). 

wetsu

I enjoy 6079 Smith W quite a bit, even on those occasions when we don't see eye-to-eye.  I have seldom seen a serious offering by him that was not well thought out and supported by fact.  Perhaps the fact that he can factually disembowel most arguments based mainly on speculation makes people uncomfortable.  Please understand that this post is not a shot at Kottage Kat, I enjoy your writing style, yet I think it's a mistake to lump 6079 Smith W in with some of the one-trick ponies that frequent these boards.  I certainly do not view him as a troll, yet, YMMV.  The passion that political debate elicits in many people often results in otherwise reasonable folks going for each others throat.  Unfortunately, that seems to be playing into the politicos hands by diverting the attention off of them. 

Salvatore

I sometimes wonder what happened to all of the former anonymous people that used to post comments here. Sometimes I read the comments to get the news, opinions or just for humor. I was banned for a while but I am back again. It would be nice for the register or bryan dubois to list all of the former anonymous people who were blocked and banned. Some come back under other names. But still it would be nice if the register put in a notation of who was banned. Many years ago, I went into a bar and saw a list of people who were barred or banned from the bar for causing a ruckus. It would be interesting to know what happened to all of the former bloggers. For example what happed to hancrackmeup, vladamir pootin, country cowboy and the others? Does Bryan know? Maybe Bryan could start up a blog about banned anonymous bloggers. It might get interesting.

Return of Dragon

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MoonDog44870

 Something is rotten in Denmark when the person being defamed and the victim of a commentor's abuse is a dude that was taking pictures of underage boys. Is CountryCowboy really that reviled that people think this dirty old man deserves better than being accused of being countryCowboy.

tranaldi

OK, so you just let others change your mind that easy? WOW, what a pushover and very foolish! Take some advice from this here granny, son you'd better start making up your own mind, before it's too late! Don't let anyone ever so lamely misguide you like that. Are your scrupals intact my dear? Check yourself. Pray for understanding and guidance, because it sounds like you need it. Think before you decide to allow others to change you like that!

tranaldi

OK, so you just let others change your mind that easy? WOW, what a pushover and very foolish! Take some advice from this here granny, son you'd better start making up your own mind, before it's too late! Don't let anyone ever so lamely misguide you like that. Are your scrupals intact my dear? Check yourself. Pray for understanding and guidance, because it sounds like you need it. Think before you decide to allow others to change you like that!

Raoul Duke

Check me on this Bryan, but I thought for sure this article was purely sarcasm...

brutus smith

 Everything bryan writes is satire. 

 

 

6079 Smith W
@ KK:   “TAOH”? Read about one quarter of it, got the gist – Big Govt.   Though not exclusive: Finishing up “Atlas Shrugged” and recently started “Lone Star; A History of Texas and The Texans.” I try to keep 3-5 books going at a time.   Wealthy? Not hardly.   I've learned to leverage what I have - work smart, not hard, ya know?   My experience was that the socio-economics of Norwalk past was that it was largely egalitarian – there weren’t multitudes of extreme highs or massive lows.   Unfortunately in the present, the lows are generally the predominate segment and are invariably becoming greater in number.     To borrow an old phrase: I’ve been to Kansas City and seen the elephant.   And as a dear late flaming Liberal friend said to me not long before both of us were preparing to leave Norwalk for elsewhere: You can never go home again.   See ya around Pocahontas.    

 

Kottage Kat

" When the power of LOVE overcomes the LOVE of power, then shall we have PEACE"

 ALL the Blessings of the season to you and yours.  MERRY CHRISTMAS.

6079 Smith W
@ KK:   When the aggressive people have killed each other off, only then will the meek inherit the Earth.   Or,   quoting from Monty Python’s “Life of Brian”:   “Blessed be the cheese makers.”  

And a very Merry Christmas to you and yours!

 

Kottage Kat

Thank you.

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Commenter

Wow the register got another one.

6079 Smith W
@ KK:   In Chicago, “manners” are rarely used. Allow me to dust them off:  

“You’re welcome” and “Thank you.”

Kottage Kat

Mr. Smith,

How sad that location dictates civility, my manners go with me wherever I go. I try to remember to use them, sometimes I am a bitter failure, and I often regret having done so. So if I have offended you, and forgotten my manners, I do apologize most sincerely. Having lived in the South, some habits are difficult to break. Manners there while fading rapidly, the basic's remain. Bless your little heart dahlin for tryin.

Sam

Once again the registerag shows its far left , whacked out liberal, class envy, agenda.  Remember a dragon is full of HOT AIR and are found in children's fairy tales, good description of most liberals.

Darkhorse

You are close on your description of both the Register and this Dragon person. Dragon is a fine example of a left wing progressive socialist. I hope this person who changed his mind after listening to the rants of Dragon reads the book "The Roots of Obamas Rage". He will once again reverse course in his beliefs. If he thinks Bush was bad he has no idea how bad this Obama is and who is behind his agenda and the direction Hussein Obama wants to take us. The course we presently are on has been in the planning for a very long time and the people of this country were led like lambs to a slaughter in the election of 2008. If you think it was or is bad now, wait for another two years and you will not recognize our country anymore.

Return of Dragon

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