BLOG: Journalism Will Destroy Your Community!

Bryan Dubois
Nov 28, 2010

Where in the world does this idea come from that journalism can destroy a community?  If the press covers public corruption - and the allegations are factual, how and why do community members place blame on the press for giving the community a bad name?

The people I hear advocating this are government employees who are always completely innocent of whatever the press claims they did.

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6079 Smith W

@ thinkagain:

LOL

Congrats. But remember: Glory is fleeting.

Pundit

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Bryan Dubois

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Return of Dragon

Watch it Pundit.  The liberal voices seem to be disappearing from the comments.  It appears that the libertarians who advocate freedom of speech believe it only applies to their comments and rants.

goofus

Chung errr Return of Dragon, comments one and all are accepted, personal attacks aren't

Return of Dragon

Mr. Lee you presume?

Cross

Are we really getting moderated comments from a blog post linking to the Onion?

Really?

I think unless there are personal attacks, and I mean really personal, then comments should be left alone.

 

kURT

winnie Smith you are wrong again.

 

 

 

Your friend  & fellow alum Terry Boose & you imo are the reasons America is under the problems she now faces.

You seem to think the world revolves around you - it doesn't.

Do something good in your area winnie or leave  it.

pdb

Pundit

 Bryan Dubois made allegations of corruption against local judges and prosecutors when he blogged for his own site Erie Voices.

I am just asking, did if any of those claims proved factual? 

Are the existence those past accusations not fact? Is that not how he gained local fame and why he blogs for the SR now?  

Dubios's post brings up how the community should respond to accusations of corruption brought by journalist against local government employees.

Is the history and credibility of the "journalist" making the accusations not important?

Did Dubois not spread a false rumor about the nature of the Perkins levy on the SR website back in October? 

He claims he heard some gossip from someone he won't name and decided to post it rather than doing the most basic research or contacting anyone involved. 

He claims it is a great victory that Gunner responded to him... it seems like bad journalism to me. It's not that government employees are innocent, but when "journalist" like Dubious cry wolf it hurts the cause he pretends to care about.

Dubois's real cause is self promotion. He'll say whatever it takes.

 

Bryan Dubois

Bryan Dubois made allegations of corruption against local judges and prosecutors when he blogged for his own site Erie Voices.

Correct.

I am just asking, did if any of those claims proved factual? 

Yes.  Especially the retaliation witnessed first hand.  I let it all go 5 years ago.  So what?

Are the existence those past accusations not fact?

Yes.

Is that not how he gained local fame and why he blogs for the SR now?  

That's your theory.  I think the legal problems I foolishly caused/got involved with were most likely black marks against me - not for me.  Anyway, if I answered that question with a more realistic explanation as to why the Register asked me to blog for them, you'd accuse me of self promotion, wouldn't you?

Dubios's post brings up how the community should respond to accusations of corruption brought by journalist against local government employees.

Right.

Is the history and credibility of the "journalist" making the accusations not important?  Did Dubois not spread a false rumor about the nature of the Perkins levy on the SR website back in October?  

No.  I asked questions about it and opened it up for discussion.  When it was suggested that I email Gunner, I did, got a response and posted it.  The discussion in that thread developed into a back and forth about tranparency and how the levy committee should handle giving information to the public. 

He claims he heard some gossip from someone he won't name

Oh, that's priceless.  Suddenly this anonymous commenter has a problem with the idea of anonymous sources.

and decided to post it rather than doing the most basic research or contacting anyone involved.   He claims it is a great victory that Gunner responded to him...

No, that's not true and you know it.  Go back and read it again.  Gunner's response wasn't described in any way, it was simply posted as an update.  There was no editorializing about it either way.   You're injecting that falsehood into the post.  Why?  (You won't answer that and I think we both know why.) 

it seems like bad journalism to me.

Actually, the way you just falsely described how I portrayed Gunner's email is a great example of inaccurate writing - which is a mark of bad journalism. 

It's not that government employees are innocent, but when "journalist" like Dubious cry wolf it hurts the cause he pretends to care about.

And if I "cried wolf" how do you explain the levy going down in flames on November 2nd?

Try reading that Perkins levy thread again, Pundit.  What comes across pretty plainly is that there were many Perkins voters who didn't trust the way the levy was being presented to them.  That blog post was a conversation starter on a hot topic in Perkins that wasn't getting much play in the newspaper.  I started the conversation hoping it would develop into a constructive discussion and it did.  I chose to never write about it again.  (Kind of like I chose to never write about the Marina District again.  The reason, in both cases, was because I felt that both projects would fail and that discussing it further was a waste of time.)

Dubois's real cause is self promotion. He'll say whatever it takes.

Interesting theory.  I imagine all bloggers have the same cause then?  What's your cause, Pundit?

By the way, the online media is constantly evolving.  Blog posts can be whatever you want them to be.  They can be lengthy pieces of reporting, one-line conversation starters, editorial cartoons, etc.   If you don't enjoy reading blogs, I'd suggest simply not reading them.

 

silvereagle_1

will Obama's high-speed service routes be named before or after he HONORS Hanoi Jane an' Jane Fonda?****for those that don't remember, they were labeled traitors during the Viet Nam war.

brutus smith

 bryan, who writes your responses for you? Maybe you should go over them. Oh wait, that's the problem.

Return of Dragon

Interesting that Dubois uses the word "retaliation" to describe the response to his actions.  Instead of saying "responded", "counter-attacked", "defended", he chooses to use the word "retaliation" because it implies it iwas an unjust response.  Always the victim.  Clearly, Dubois prefers a system where he can attack others and not be subject to the same.  It is unfortunate that he refuses to see the irony of his position.  However, this hypocrisy is not lost on all. 

Bryan Dubois

"Return of Dragon", hypocrisy would be clearly defined as you claiming that I, a known person, prefer a system where I can attack others without being able to be held accountable for what I say when it's you, a person using an anonymous screen name, who cannot be held accountable for what you say.

Tell me Chung, how do you spend the rest of your time when you're not inventing, re-inventing and defending your imaginary online characters?

Return of Dragon

Who is Chung and what does he have to do with my comments?  Apparently you have me confused with somebody who schooled you and you had banned because he exposed you as a poorly informed shill. Seems that many of the voices on the left are disappearing.  It appears that Pundit and maybe Brutus may soon be banned.  At any rate, Dragon could be anybody..... maybe a Serbian who was given that name at birth or possibly a graduate of a local school...... (colleges have mascots) or maybe even a Harry Potter Fan.

Bryan Dubois

Yes, "Dragon" could be anybody.  [eye roll]

Or....

He's the same person who previously wrote under the anonymous handle "Chung Lee" and was banned for consistently violating the commenting guidelines.

You're so clever.  Nobody knows it's you Chung!

Seriously though:  How much time do you spend creating these characters and does it frustrate you when they get banned?  I mean, each time you get banned, don't you have to create another anonymous email address to add into the commenting system so that the computer doesn't know it's you?

 

Return of Dragon

Bryan how much time do you spend copying the lies from discredited right wing smear sites?  Looks like a lot, but clearly you save time by not verifying your information.  So are you also Winston , Taxpayer, Stormy Goofus, Pastor Ron or all of them?

Bryan Dubois

Nope.  None of them.  And you have no reason to suspect otherwise.  I sign my name and defend anything I write.  You and all your anonymous online characters, past and present, know this.

So how many anonymous characters have you created so far?  The Chung Lee account was disabled, but have you created others in the past?  You obviously get some kind of enjoyment from creating and defending these characters.

What's the overall purpose of this practice?  And would you say that the purpose is being fulfilled in a meaningful way?  I mean, meaningfully enough to warrant the continued effort to overcome the anti-trolling efforts in place to prevent your frequent violation of the commenting guidelines.

Chung do you actually believe that you're battling for some kind of left-wing ideology?  If so, what does it say that you choose to do this in the darkness of anonymity?  Wouldn't it stand to reason that you'd be proud to stand up for what you believe in rather than leave the task to an anonymous online character that you've created?

You're a very interesting person, Chung.

 

Return of Dragon

You have no reason to think that Chung Lee and Return of Dragon are the same people.  Just because they both challenge you and your lack of knowledge and logic doesn't mean they are the same person.  I have noticed that Chung Lee has not posted in a while.  I just did not know that he was banned and I find it interesting that you know he was banned and did not just move on.  I thought he just quit posting after you made him the Whispering Coward in the middle of the night after Stormy wanted to meet and fight him. 

Seems odd that Chung was kicked off and the person who wanted to physically fight was not removed or admonished!  Just curious......Bryan don't you think you should of had the courage to call out stormy?  How come you call those on the left trolls for name calling when Winston is by far the most frequent name caller?  Do you lack the courage to call out somebody just because they agree with your point of view?

By the way, I decided to start posting for my own reasons.  I especially enjoy mocking those with the strongest opinions and fewest facts.  I am sorry that you have become a target.  I can only suggest that you put more thought into your comments and less ideology in your rants..

Bryan Dubois

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Return of Dragon

Thank you moderators for removing those trollish personal attacks.

Bryan Dubois

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Return of Dragon

I read the blog and I thought it was pretty cowardly that the blogger did nothing when those threats were made so that is why I remember that something like that sticks out in my memory.  Like I said before, I thought he got tired of toying with you. Just because I remember that shouldn't make me another victim of that witch hunt.  I do find it amusing that Chung Lee would point out your ignorance and instead of defeating him with words and ideas...... you had to have him removed from commenting!

I am not angry with the Register for taking Chung Lee away from the people. It is their choice to do so but clearly shows their bias when they have posters on the right that do far worse and they continue to blog. I think a lot of people including myself miss his comments and perspective.  If anybody need a "reality check" it is you "dude".  Trust me "dude" the people at the paper and those that read your blog see you as a joke while you seem to think you are a journalist.  I would find this to be funny if it wasn't so sad.

brutus smith

 I miss Chung Lee's commenting. It's ironic that someone like Chung who used facts as his basis is removed, and someone like bryan, whose little voice in his head is his basis for "facts" is aloud to continue to blog here.

kURT

I too have had some of my factual statements removed....that's okay.

 

Tells me I'm getting through.

 

Call left, right or whatever....I'm just another who is trying to make my own way through this maze of stuff we call everyday American life.

Return of Dragon

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Salvatore

The Chung Lee account was disabled?  Oy Chung Lee!!!! I was blocked and banned too. Whine and cry like Bruce Willis and maybe the register will let you post comments again. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sgRvDlg6ivE   It worked for me. : )

Bryan Dubois

Best line of the night:  "You called me Chung Lee.  I am Return of Dragon."

Picture me laughing out loud!

Return of Dragon

At what point does Dubois get banned for violation of posting rules?  2 posts in a row had to be removed for trollish attacks.  Can we have discussions without personal attacks?

Return of Dragon

I would like to see Chung Lee back on the blog but apparently there were some that found him to be more than they could handle.  The reasons for his departure are appearing to be rather weak especially since the blogger has had 2 posts removed in a row!  This is too funny.  I wonder if the police ever investigated the threats made by stormy.  I have seen stormy post recently so apparently he was not banned.

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