BLOG: Is Schaefer's Response Where Local Media Is Headed?

Bryan Dubois
Nov 26, 2010

A positive thing is happening under an SR article, and local leadership should take note that this is where local media is and should be headed.

One of the reasons I believe the commenting section of the Sandusky Register should be revamped is to encourage this type of interaction.  Commenters should be encouraged to use real names (or at least civility) and trolls should be recognized and their accounts should be deleted immediately.  If you want useless, anonymous snark, visit youtube.  If you believe local media provides a valuable resource to the public in the way of acting as medium between government and citizens, then you should treat it with more respect and value.

In accordance with that last idea, Diane Schaefer, who is a Perkins resident and elected fiscal officer, is using the local media capability to her advantage:

There were questions raised about whether Schaeffer was being cooperative in releasing public documents regarding the relocation of Perkins townhall.  The Register published their account of what happened between their reporter and Schaeffer, and like always, commenters offered their opinions of the account.  Apparently, some of the comments were either unfair or outright lies.

So Diane Schaefer spent more than a few minutes on Thanksgiving Day to defend herself from the lies in the commenting section.

Her decision to post as herself raises a few questions and proves something that many local civil leaders would love to be untrue:  The commenting section is read by alot of people.  Sure, it may be a cesspool of nonsense by the likes of the same 3 anonymous commenters but every once in awhile there will come a Schaeffer moment when it's worth reading.

Why don't more local officials who feel wronged by coverage respond personally?  Sure, this is not a traditional way to handle what one perceives as 'bad press', but a carefully worded response is probably more effective than just praying the newspaper and anonymous commenters get it right next time.

What role will the media play if more public officials begin to handle their interactions with the public directly instead of relying on a reporter to accurately quote them or follow a legitimate narrative that's worthy of coverage?

Schaefer's move should be noted and if the Register is awake and watching, they should find a way to encourage more of it.  (One of which is to revamp the comments section)  In the end, I think readers would gladly trade a thousand anonymous trolls for 1 upfront public official who gives their opinion and honestly tacks their name to it.  That new, innovative media model would better serve the community and ensure sustainability in the constantly changing media world...

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Massengill Wins...

Good thing the tea baggers are not emotional and that their arguments are based on facts.  I am so glad they have found the courage to spread their message now that Obama is president.  The courage that must have taken after being silent for 8 years about taxes, privacy and etc.  Most of all it is great to see that they figured out that protesting doesn't make you a terrorist sympathizer.  Good thing the good guys are above calling people names like imbecile parasite and troll.  We are the grown ups and the victims of these bad guys.

6079 Smith W
Feminine hygiene deodorant product smith:   Feeling the need to refer to yourself as a “grown-up” kinda begs the question doesn’t it?  

Your user name speaks volumes in that regard.

 

Massengill Wins...

Winston it sounds like you might have turned to the dark side because I made factual comments and you chose to attack me instead?  Those evil liberals are making your force weak.

6079 Smith W

@ Douche smith:

Yea using the term "bad guys" was "factual.” LOL

Mommy he attacked me!!! ROFLMAO.

Remember the words of your Head Troll:

“People in glass houses should not throw stones.” (brutus smith Nov. 19, 2010)

 

 

Massengill Wins...

Winston says:

"Byway of the definition of a troll; his goal is largely to disrupt, insult and gain attention – that’s all".

I can't believe the liberals think maybe you are a little trollish when you call the POTUS "Obie"  Can't they see the constructive potential of such profound name calling?  Those stupid Marxists!

goofus

Perkinsandlynn, can you share that list? Who really are Brutus,massengill,and duhast?

stormy

Goofus, you don't need to know Brutus and Dooshie's real names, any more than they need to know yours.  Anonymity affords all of us the luxury of writing what's on our minds, without fear of recrimination, and without having to pull our punches; that is, as long as we stay within the somewhat inconsistent limits established by the monitors.

I don't think that either Brutus or Dooshie qualifies as a "troll;"  it looks to me like they both write what they actually think and feel.  In my book, a true troll is a pretender.  Pastor Ron is a great example; pretends to be a Christian fundamentalist, to make actual Christians look bad.

And why pick on Duhast?  Yes, he leans to the left, but he always fights clean.  I don't recall EVER having seen a purely gratuitous insult written by him.  I often disagree with him, but I respect him.

Before anyone jumps in to blast me for the sins of my past, I'll admit that I'm no paragon of virtue.  I've stepped over the line more than once.  According to the monitor, I did so last night, when commenting on the three knuckle-draggers who beat a baby alpaca to death.  Weird; I've gotten away with worse.  Makes me wonder if some of the monitors take it out on us when their bowels are acting up.

Well, that's all for now.  Got work to do.  Have a pleasant day, y'all.

Massengill Wins...

GhostRider can't agree with you more.  Get ready for the name calling and verbal attacks.

goofus

GhostRider, na na na na I'm rubber your glue, your comments bounce off me and sticks to you!!! Please lighten up, embolisms are so messy.

Darkhorse

Government can always try something once to see if the public is paying attention.  If they get away with it, the practice continues until the public or the local newspaper calls the government on it and informs them that their practice has to stop.  The public has a right to be informed.  If you don't want negative press, then straighten up your act and quit playing games with the documentation. Remember to hold your elected officials accountable or there will be a change come the next election.

goofus
Print Email Washington Prowler Seizing the Internet

Staffers at the Federal Communications Commission with ties to the commission's chairman, Julius Genachowski, coordinated media and strategy planning with senior Free Press and MoveOn.org officials in the run up to Genachowski's announcement that he would be seeking an FCC vote on imposing so-called "net neutrality" rules on broadband and the Internet, and doing so when Congress is out of session during the Thanksgiving and Christmas recesses.

"Net neutrality" is a policy proposal that would essentially strip the control and traffic management of broadband networks from those companies that deployed them and make them run properly, and transfer much of that oversight to the federal government. Under the proposal rumored to be under consideration by the FCC, network operators such as AT&T and Comcast would not be allowed to offer consumers prioritized service or quality of service guarantees for such things as movie downloads and video streaming.

"It essentially turns the networks into dumb pipes, so you have billions of people going online and no one is really managing the traffic in a way so that consumers have a good experience," says an FCC staffer for a Republican commission member. "People don't realize how much video and communications comes over their broadband lines. This is the left's attempt to rein in things like Fox News, Pajamas Media, Internet radio broadcasts for Limbaugh and Levin -- anything that is data-related or video-related that requires some high-tech network management would be degraded or limited by the imposition of net neutrality."

Congressional Republicans (and even some Democrats) have stated that they do not believe the FCC has the statutory standing to impose such rules -- which would reclassify broadband and Internet services as "telecommunications services" and bring them under rules that were developed for the rotary phone back in the 1930s -- without guidance from Congress. More than 100 members from both parties formally requested that the FCC take no action until the House and Senate had had a chance to weigh in on the matter.

But with the Obama Administration quickly losing its own standing with its radical base as it prepares to surrender to Republicans on the Bush tax cut renewals and possible budget cuts, "We need to give our people a win, and right now, [net neutrality] is the only win we will probably be able to give them for at least the next six to eight months," says a White House official.

About a week ago it appeared that nothing would be done at the FCC, and Free Press, the leftist group founded by Marxist Robert McChesney and financed by George Soros, was due to host a media call to demand FCC action. But that call was canceled without explanation and rescheduled for Monday, November 22, at which point Free Press was able to tout news to its membership that the FCC appeared prepared to act on the neutrality policy.

"We were told [last week] to hold our fire and reschedule our call," says a Free Press media aide, who requested anonymity for fear of reprisals. "We have friends inside the FCC and they told us that if we just waited a few days, there would be good news for us to announce to our membership. More senior people knew what was happening over there and even had the dates for the ruling circulation and the FCC meeting schedule so we could plan events to support Genachowski and the Democratic commissioners."

Speaking with outside public interest groups or industry officials is not forbidden at the FCC, though in the case of an issue like "net neutrality," FCC staff involved at any level with the decision making process are required to publicly file an ex parte notice about any discussions related to the policy issue they have with outside groups. To date, no ex parte filings have been filed related to any contact a senior FCC official might have had with senior officials at Free Press. A number of current FCC officials have ties to Free Press, including Jen Howard, currently spokesperson for Genachowski, who formerly was a spokesperson for Free Press.

In the past year, Free Press has been caught in several ethics missteps related to its claims of not lobbying Democrats on Capitol Hill or at the FCC. In one instance, the group was caught drafting letters to be published under the names of liberal Democrats addressed to the FCC and intended to influence that decision-making body. Republicans on Capitol Hill have already made it clear that oversight of the FCC will be a priority for the House Energy and Commerce Committee.

As it stands, the FCC will release the planned rulemaking for net neutrality while Congress is out of town on Thanksgiving recess, and would vote on the rules on December 21, when Congress is on Christmas recess. "In short, they are doing this in such a way that it is rubbing our noses in it," says a Republican staffer on House Energy and Commerce. "Unless folks just rise up and make noise about this, there isn't much we can do until after the new year when we get back and have control of the committee."

6079 Smith W
  GhostRider writes:   “At least Brutus Smith will give us his opinions and thoughts on the subject, and he doesn`t  go to name calling until he is attacked by 6079 or goofus.”   "And please don`t tell us he started it."   Your observation is incorrect. And because I verbally fight back against ad hominem attacks, I’m the “bad guy”? I don’t think so.   No "name calling"? Here’s a first rate example:   Ask “Massengill Winston Smith” about the intention and meaning of his user name; and why he chose it.   In the final analysis, if you don’t like what I write – skip over it. Problem solved.     ------------                  @ Douche smith:   So, when writing you never used a derogatory term to refer to President GW Bush or other political figures?   Is “Obie” commenting on these blogs?   And your personal ad hominem attacks against me are the equivalent of and in response to my referring to Mr. Obama as “Obie”?   # 1: You identify way too much and place far too much emphasis on political figures.    

# 2: Your definition of “name calling” is way too broad.

Massengill Wins...

Face it Winston you are a TROLL by your own definition!

GhostRider

 Thank you goofus and 6079 smith for proving my point. Neither one of you can come up with an original comment or thought of your own unless it is insulting someone or calling them names. You have to repeat something somebody else says.  You have BOTH just proven my point that YOU BOTH ARE TROLLS BY YOUR OWN DEFINITION.    I am not name calling because it is a FACT. 

 So you can both come back now with your childish comments,except this time and from now on,I will not be reading or responding to them as I am MUCH better and WAY to mature to stoop to your level!!!!!

I hope others on here will do the same.

goofus

But what happens when one's opinion is so steeped in ignorance without one iota of fact? Herr ghostrider.

6079 Smith W
   @ MWS:   So the intention and meaning of your user name is what?    
brutus smith

 I see the hate brothers are teaming up again.

6079 Smith W
GhostRider writes:   “Neither one of you can come up with an original comment or thought of your own unless it is insulting someone or calling them names.”   You’ve obviously made a wrongheaded observation and arrived at an erroneous conclusion, while having answered none of my questions or asked any of your own.  

It would seem that we’ve reached an impasse on this subject and we'll perhaps just have to agree to disagree.     You may wish to educate yourself on what constitutes a troll: http://www.flayme.com/troll/#What

goofus

One down, four to go. Must be a Michigan fan having a bad day.

Marine Sgt.

 This will be my last comment on here for a while. I got called back to duty early. Heading to Korea now. But I couldn`t leave without saying something. 

 TO GOOFUS AND 6079SMITH, 

   YOU TWO ARE A COUPLE OF THE BIGGEST IDIOTS I HAVE SEEN IN SOME TIME.  NEITHER ONE OF YOU HAVE THE SENSE THAT GOD GAVE YOU. IT IS A GOOD THING THAT YOU ARE BOTH STAYING HERE IN THIS TOWN BECAUSE YOU SURE WOULDN`T MAKE IT VERY LONG IN THE REAL WORLD.

 I also want to thank everybody for their support of the troups. It means a lot to know that you think of us and are praying for us.

 GOD BLESS AMERICA

Salvatore

Perkinsandlynn says "A friend of mine that may or may not still work for the newspaper in IT (sorry I do not want to give too many details about this person) was telling a few of us one day that some of the bloggers, some reporters, and even editors have mutliple logins names.  They use these multiple names to generate friction in the commenting area and provoke more comments."  As I mentioned before, I was blocked and banned for a while because of my signature and youtube link that was political in nature. Plus many of my comments were deleted even though they did not violate any discussion guidelines. I would like to know who "gemini logic" is who seemed to have a big problem with my former signature. Register employee maybe? Nobody else ever made a big stink over my former signature. But Gemini Logic sure did. When that young man from Huron drowned, I offered condolences to the family and friends. Gemini Logic made it a point to use that particular solemn story that was filled with comments of prayers and condolences. And I will quote Gemini Logic.

Gemini Logic says @Salvatore; I find it hard to believe that you are saddened by anything when your only purpose in commenting is to promote your agenda. One has absolutely nothing to do with the other, now does it? My sympathies to you.

I wrote @gemini logic! SHAME ON YOU!!!!!   A young man died. If you want to attack me over my signature, at least do it on another story. This story is about Nathan. I apologize to the family and friends of Nathan. The Supreme Being is taking care of Nathan now. Again, my condolences.

Gemini Logic says  @ salvatore, I have done nothing about which to be ashamed, so don't try the guilt tip train on me.

My former signature would be shown in all of my comments, even comments that were deleted. I did mention in a later comment where I posted a photo of Nathan to disregard my signature. Another person commented that GL's comments were not the place in that particular story. GL came back and posted "I don't and @salvatore thank you for taking my point. I'm done now. good evening to all."  What  a self righteous and better than thou person GL is. I have the feeling that GL had a lot to do with me getting blocked and banned. After I deleted my signature and the link to youtube, the block against me was lifted and I was allowed to comment again. RETALIATION is the word. Schaefer is a public official and many public officals should use the comments with their real names. But I can see public officials using anonymous names also. Kevin Baxter wrote some letters to the editor when the register used him as a target. One question that I have to the register reporters is if their stories are edited by the editor before being printed as the final version.

 

 

 

goofus

Ghostrider, I only post on issues that interest me, mostly about the Obama regime. Not being a resident of Erie county I don't feel the need to comment on local issues, nor do I care. Unlike Brutus and yourself I refrain from posting on 99% of the junk the Register claims is a story. I despise liberals and their progressive agenda and when attacked, I respond. So if that what makes me a troll in your eyes and mind, so be it. However you know you will respond to one my posts in the future so please refrain from the crocidile tears you are shedding.

6079 Smith W

Marine Sgt. writes:

"YOU TWO ARE A COUPLE OF THE BIGGEST IDIOTS I HAVE SEEN IN SOME TIME.”

 Bold and in caps?

 Are you a new troll or one of the present crop with another user name?

Also:

"It is better to live for something then to die for nothing" ???

Shouldn't this be: "It is better to die for something instead of living for nothing"?

goofus

16:50 GMT The United States said it was too early to consider any military response to North Korea's attack.

"At this point it's premature to say that we're considering any action," Colonel Dave Lapan, a Pentagon spokesman, told reporters.

He said no additional US forces had been deployed to the region as a result of the North Korean artillery barrage.

"We're still monitoring the situation and talking with our allies," Lapan said, adding that Washington was "mindful" of which actions might exacerbate or cool tensions on the peninsula.

Isgt, are you perhaps freelancing it? I'm glad to see you are going it alone.So who is really the idiot?

Julie R.

Hey Mr. Dubois, you say that in the end readers would gladly trade a thousand anonymous trolls for 1 upfront public official that gives their opinion and honestly tacks their name to it......

What a JOKE you are. And come to think of it I've never seen you criticize any of these Erie County public officials with the exception of the Clerk of Courts Barb Johnson. Why not?  Are you afraid of the big bad wolf  (we won't mention any names) here in corrupt Erie County or what? 

samiam

Hopefully Brutus Smith will remember these posts about name calling the next time he gets the urge to call someone "right wingnuts" and other things when they disagree with his point of view.

goofus

Marine Sgt, where did ya go? Why the rush, no marine corps units have been called up yet, and if you were a part of the U.S.S. George Washington carrier group, you're awol anyway.

kURT

Hey Brian get my IP.

I'm not ashamed of my posts. yet because we don't know many here, these shared comments do much good.

One example is how Norwalk council members were able to field many questions regarding local issues.

How convienient for many with busy schedules.

Sure there are some I detest, but big deal.........no one is ever going to get along with everyone.

Besides I find it truly interesting when I got  a government represenitive to finally give me a straight answer regarding OUR money that HE used. He sure wanted to know who I was!

These forums allow ALL to have a voice.........no Executive privelidge rights can curtail that.

Yet.

I'll respect your opinion - please respect mine.

Thank you.

Salvatore

Kimo says "Many years ago when I served as an appointed and elected official. We had a young lady that covered our meetings for a local paper." Oy kimo! Have you ever been misquoted in the newspapers or have newspapers use your quotes against you?

GhostRider

 If I recall right,marine sgt said he was home on leave. If his unit is being deployed or just put on alert for what  MIGHT happen, then he is being called back for that.  I have been hearing about a lot of people on leave being called back.  That is what the military does when they go on high alert.  He is right about you two. I am starting to believe that you are one in the same because you both alway back each other up EVERYTIME, even if the comment is way off base. AND you seem to accuse others of being one in the same. Are you trying to throw us off or what?

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