BLOG: Kasich Is Anti 2nd Amendment?

Bryan Dubois
Oct 6, 2010

According to politics daily, John Kasich (R) still holds a healthy lead over incumbent Ted Strickland (D).  I wonder how many other voters were shocked at the info in this latest mailing sent out by Strickland's campaign:

Kasich is anti-gun?

Ouch.

The pro-China/Anti-Ohio narrative they were beating into the ground was getting tiresome, but this new anti-firearm charge is definitely going to bring those poll numbers closer together...

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bucknut36

The guy has been a guest host for Rush Limbaugh and a commentator  on Fox News.

Enough Said!!

Erie County Resident

Did the SR just wake up???

This is old news...  Kasich is a Dumpocrap in Republican clothing..

And no this has nothing to do with the NRA making this earth shaking annoucnement.

He's all for shipping jobs overseas. He loves bailouts.

He likes Cap & Trade which will make energy cost go through the roof for everyone.

He's against the Constitution.... Especially the 2nd, 4th, and 1st  Amendments.

This describes a liberal in my book.

I don't really care for Strickland but he'll be less damaging to Ohio in my view, he at least supports most of the Constitution.

Larry

Not to worry, under Strickland you won't be able to afford the bullets for it anyway.

Bryan Dubois

Kasich is a gun supporter according to his website:

Sam

One term Teddy, desperate and unemployed after Nov.2...

 

democrapers, higher taxes, unemployed Nov.2.....

Just Thinkin

As i keep telling the OLD Guard Dempcraps, WE no longer have a party ! the Repubic 's and the Demolib's are no longer for the common American but are for the groups who will get them votes. Ex. Obama gets the black and Lib Votes WHY Color that's all, The Repubic's get the votes from the upper classes . And the little middle American is still  [? ].Wake up and get the America we love back on track, Union guys just because we are taken to the water hole we need not have to drink ! ask if it is safe for us or just a stop on our road total control by our Goverment? Repubic's, Ask is making two groups the wealthy vs the poorer middle class really making you richer or degradeing you as a person! We as Americans worry to much about being PC that we are giving up our freedoms to belong in the world 's favor, SCREW the world God, Truth and HONEST NEWS Reporting will keep us free as long as we vote for AMERICA and what we used to stand for Freedom and Honest working Woman and Men, Vote for the Truth it will set us FREE ! 

Factitious

Bryan:

1) Are the claims about the Kasich vote true?

2) Can you substantiate that this item in fact came from the Strickland campaign? (No "paid for by..." on what you posted.)

Bryan Dubois

Factitious,  yeah, it came from the Strickland campaign.  It was on the other side of the ad at the top.

6079 Smith W

 

@ Mr. Dubois:   Thanks for the link.   That’s a pretty weak worded endorsement for the 2nd Amend. Protecting the rights of sportsmen and hunters?   Hunting isn’t the whole ball of wax by a long shot.   H*ll, I own firearms and I’ve never went hunting.   I say keep your eye on the prize:   Get rid of old mister tax, borrow and spend Strickland first and then if Mr. Kasich proves to be a putz, kick his butt to the curb in four years too.  

If Mr. Kasich wastes time and effort focusing on 2nd Amend. rights as opposed to righting the state’s economy he deserves to be booted out of office.

 

Factitious

The attack ads against Strickland are over the top... in number and in outrageousness. Strickland has done a remarkable keeping the budget in check, given the national economic disaster he was dealt by the Republicans under Bush. Blaming him for Ohio's job losses is just silly and desperate and shows a cynical distain for the voters' intelligence. Ironic that the attacks come from Kasick, a guy straight from the Wall street crowd that brewed up this mess. The more the Republicans get what they want, the worse things get.

mikel

facitious..are you kidding?  strickland has done a good job?  he is pushing for the high speed rail service here in ohio.  he has admittied that the state will have to subsidize this with taxpayer money, as it will NOT be self sustaining, by at least $17 million per year!  apparently he doesn't know that the state is already running a deficit of close to $2 billion.  you think that is responsible?

6079 Smith W

  

@ Factitious:   Is Mr. Strickland’s canceling the last two yrs. of the income tax reduction and stealing the hard earned money of Ohio’s workingmen and women evidence of a “remarkable job?”   More like he’s attempting to balance the budget on their backs.   Yep, blame the Repubs, blame Bush that’s all the incompetent Dems have to run on.    For decades, Ohioans have been voting with their feet and moving out of the state.   According to initial estimates by the U.S. Census, Ohio will lose two Congressional seats due to the loss of population.   Ohio has one of the worst income and business tax schedules in the country.   The Tax Foundation ranks Ohio 47th in the nation for business friendliness:   http://www.taxfoundation.org/research/topic/50.html   Give Mr. Kasich a chance, he certainly can’t do any worse than Mr. Strickland.   And retire Mr. Fisher too.  
brutus smith

 bryan, so Kasich being pro China and Anti Ohio is OK, but being anti gun is not? That is a strange set of priorities. It's funny people try to paint Strickland as being a Liberal, but his voting record in Congress was very Conservative, voted against NAFTA, is pro 2nd Amendment which I am too, and overall is really a fiscal Conservative. Kasich wants the Wall Street guys to have your money and we all saw how that worked out.

Bryan Dubois

brutus, no, it's not okay.  It was a point that I was getting tired of hearing about though.  They were harping on it.

6079 Smith W

 

@ bs:   Mr. Strickland’s all but gone, you’re beating a broken drum.   Pro Second Amend? Even for assault rifles? You may need them for your lefty re-education camps and the executions.   Why should you even care if you don’t live in Ohio?     New ADP job numbers out this morning – not good for Obie.   The U.S. Labor Dept. report coming out on Fri. will show that the unemployment rate ticked up - yikes!   Keep the faith, but it's looking real bad for the Dems in Nov.  

http://noir.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=awngTwIZePlo&pos=1

 

tk

If these economic conditions were only occurring in Ohio then I suppose you could blame Gov. Strickland, but unfortunately they are nationwide and began several years ago.  You know where the blame lies and it is not with Gov. Strickland or President Obama.

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maverick12

My freedom for a loaf of bread....yay!!!!

man_on_the_street

I just checked the NRA website... No more arguing about this... NRA has endorsed Strickland, With an "A" rating. Kasich scored a "B" rating. Close enough for me to stick with Kasich.

Bailey

Erie County, you claimed that he is against the 1st, 2nd and 4th admendments.

I understand the 2nd, but not your claim concerning the 1st and 4th.
I'm seriously confused on your post, I'm not stiring the pot here. Care to share with us your further thoughts?

 

Once again, NO CHOICES in an election.

HOLD YOUR NOSE AND HOPE YOU VOTE FOR THE BETTER OF THE TWO PILES OF YOU KNOW WHAT!!! 

 

Im so disgusted with posters talking about WHERE we've been, I want to look forward and NEITHER of these millionairs give a hoot about the State. I detest both of them.

Taxpayer

It is all about their voting and performance HISTORY.  If this is true about his voting record then I am sure the NRA National Matches at Camp Perry will be in jeapordy.  NO conservative would vote so negative about the 2nd Amendment.  NONE!  I just hope he does not "flip-flop" like so many have done before.  John "reach across the aisle" McCain come to mind?  I will give Kasich a chance.  You know, exactly like all you liberals who gave a FAILURE a chance in the White House.  And just look at the magnificient leadership and direction we are going through.  Can't admit YOU were WRONG?  Then how does it feel?  The recession over?  At least there is a 100% increase in WH parties all PAID for by taxpayers.  Have any of you liberal crybabies been invited to those taxpayer PAID parties?  No?  You know, we need to spread the wealth around.  Ha! Ha!  I admire John Kasich for his faith and his direction.  But, know this.  NO one will stay in office if they are committed "flip-floppers" and LIARS.  If Kasich is against the 2nd Amendment, it come to light and he will get the BOOT.  You know, exactly like the title, "Worse Single Term President in the History of the United States."  NO one is exempt from the rath of the PEOPLE.   

6079 Smith W

 

tk writes:   “…these economic conditions… began several years ago.”   You are partially correct, however;  they began DECADES ago.   LBJ wanted “guns and butter” for Americans and so he began stealing from Soc. Security for one, to shore up his looming budget deficit. The U.S. experienced rabit inflation not long after.   Since then, the liberals and conservatives have supported their fiscal programs with: Too much spending, too little taxation while borrowing the difference.   Pres. Bush just happened to be holding office when the national economy finally blew up.   Gov. Strickland just happened to be holding office when the national economy blew up.   Pres. Obama said that he could fix it – he can’t.   Candidate Kasich says that he can fix it – he can’t.    

And here we are awaiting the bigger and badder economic crash to come.

 

brutus smith

 Yeah Kasich is not a liar. He is pretty straight forward in wanting to sell off the US to China. No mincing words there. 

brutus smith

The largest attack campaign against Democrats this fall is being waged by the U.S. Chamber of Commerce, a trade association organized as a 501(c)(6) that can raise and spend unlimited funds without ever disclosing any of its donors. The Chamber has promised to spend an unprecedented $75 million to defeat candidates likeJack Conway, Sen. Barbara Boxer (D-CA), Jerry Brown, Rep. Joe Sestak (D-PA), and Rep. Tom Perriello (D-VA). As of Sept. 15th, the Chamber had aired more than8,000 ads on behalf of GOP Senate candidates alone, according to a study from the Wesleyan Media Project. The Chamber’s spending has dwarfed every other issue group and most political party candidate committee spending. A ThinkProgress investigation has found that the Chamber funds its political attack campaign out of its general account, which solicits foreign funding. And while the Chamber will likely assert it has internal controls, foreign money is fungible, permitting the Chamber to run its unprecedented attack campaign. According to legal experts consulted by ThinkProgress, the Chamber is likely skirting longstanding campaign finance law that bans the involvement of foreign corporations in American elections.

Bailey

Why would the Chamber bother you Brutus when you didn't have a problem with Accorn, a company that TAUGHT how to cover up crimes of SLAVERY, ABUSE, PROSTITUTION and we know that all these types of crimes produce murders. Seems your hypicritical at best....

BRIARS BYWATER

Any politician that stands against the rights penned under our constitution are committing political suicide.  If he votes against the 2nd ammendment, which one will be next?

Cross

Portman and Kasich are both slam dunks now.

Unless some bombshell comes out against Kasich then Strickland is going to be crushed.

The sad thing is I don't think it matters who is elected, the economy will still stink for the next few years.

Taxpayer

Hey Cross, you are correct.  It still will not matter until we get rid of the ring leader in 2012.  THEN we shall see if the Republicans can perform for the PEOPLE.  NOT just for YOU, but for the majority of the PEOPLE.  If not, they will all get the BOOT and I will help in getting them out.  ALL politicians who represent the PEOPLE must and will learn they are there because of the PEOPLE, NOT for them to serve themselves.  I will vote for those who are responsible and want conservative values no matter if they are democrack or Republican.  I can name a few so called Republicans that already got the BOOT and a few are in jeapordy in 2012 along with 0bama.  One of the worst moderate Republicans is Sen. John "reach across the aisle" McCain.  I can see why he lost in his bid for the presidency.  He barely had the backing of the conservatives.  I love the TEA Party.  We have NO leader, NO commitment, NO central funding.  We are just taxpayers and people who are concerned with the total liberal destruction of this great nation.  All Washington politicians BETTER get with the program instead of taking care of themselves, family members on the taxpayer dime, entitlements, false premise of POWER, earmarks, reparations, kickbacks or they can join everyone else in the extended unemployment line.   

goofus
From zero to well-publicized nothing in record time     Print

October 6, 2010 Posted by Paul at 10:35 PM GA_googleFillSlot("PL_GEO_300");

Journolist, or its functional equivalent, must be alive, well, and working overtime somewhere in cyberspace. At least that's my explanation for how accusations of impropriety and illegality against the U.S. Chamber of Commerce spread in about a day's time, from the lefty Think Progress blog, to Huffington Post left-winger Sam Stein, to MSNBC, and then to editorial pages of the New York Times and, via funnyman Al Franken, to the U.S. Senate.

The allegation is that, in the words of Think Progress, "the Chamber is likely skirting longstanding campaign finance law that bans the involvement of foreign corporations in American elections." Supposedly, the Chamber is doing so by using money from foreign corporations associated with Chamber affiliates overseas in U.S. elections.

I'd like to make three points about this claim. First, there doesn't appear to be any evidence to support it. The Chamber says it has a process in place to ensure that foreign funds are not spent in U.S. elections. If so, as I understand it, there is no unlawful conduct. Moreover, neither Think Progress nor any those who picked up their claim, appears to have any evidence that contradicts what the Chamber says. Simply put, the left's attack on the Chamber appears to be made up out of whole cloth.

Second, as the Center for Competitive Politics points out, there is a serious tension between the claim of Think Progress and other leftists that the Chamber's alleged conduct violates the law and the standard leftist talking point that the Supreme Court's decision in Citizens United opened the floodgates to foreign spending in U.S. elections. In reality, as Think Progress' allegations of illegality against the Chamber acknowledge, foreign spending in U.S. elections remains illegal. Again, however, there doesn't seem to be any evidence that the Chamber is facilitating such foreign spending.

Third, Think Progress' fallback position is that even if the Chamber isn't putting foreign money into American campaigns, money is fungible, so that foreign money frees up other money for campaigns. But to the extent this argument has any validity, it also applies to a number of unions. The AFL-CIO has a robust foreign program. Moreover, as the Center for Competitive Politics notes, the Service Employees International Union represents employees in Canada. So does the International Brotherhood of Teamsters. And the International Brotherhood of Electrical Workers has members not just in Canada but also in Panama and several Caribbean nations. Don't their dues free up money that these powerhouse unions can use in U.S. political campaigns?

The Chamber's conduct is no more scandalous than that of these unions, which is to say, on the evidence presented so far, it is not scandalous at all.

Dr. Seuss

 wow Strickland is REALLY desperate and that is obvious in his most recent television advertisements.  I say desperate times call for desperate measures.  Can you say Governor Kasich!!!  

Captain Gutz

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