BLOG: Chairman Of Ohio Dems: Absolutely No Apologies

Bryan Dubois
Sep 24, 2010

...and he's their political leader!  (Way to build support with independents, Mr. Redfern!)  I can only assume that the level of wisdom the Democrats use in their political campaigns is the same level of wisdom they use when they draw up hope-and-change legislation?  (Short-sighted, wrongheaded.)

Update at the link.

Comments

Sam

Redfern has decided to clean up his act with this training video.

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Pete

Bwahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Brutus doesn't get here till later but this will put his skivies in a bunch.

Hey Bryan, can someone do an IP check and see what state he is posting from? As usual for a Libtard, he won't answer questions (see video above)

brutus smith

 What is there to apologize about? 

HughJass

Sheesh BS if you can't figure out what they have to apologize for you are dumber than I thought.  Do us all a favor in November, DON'T VOTE!!!  It's people like yourself that kept all the corrupt politicians in Cuyahoga county in office for so long.  Hell most of you can't even read the politicians name, you vote only based on whether there is a D after the name.  Absolutely shameful.

6079 Smith W

The 2010 campaign song for the Dems locally and nationally should be "All Apologies":

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m0drC8qVMRk 

 RIP Kurt.

digger nick
Nobody really listens to this Redfern character. Like most dimocrats he never had a real job running a business or managing people. He is just a career politician full of hot air on a sinking boat owned by the dimocrats.
brutus smith

 Did the Repubs apologize for getting us in the Iraq war? Did Bush apologize for letting 3000 people die on 9/11? And you are concerned over a word?

Pete

So Bush is responsible for the 9/11 attacks now? Seems that guy could do anything huh. Or you could just blame him for anything

HughJass

I don't know, did the Dems apologize for getting us into the Iraq war? The Dems voted almost unanimously to get us into the Iraq war also.  I know, you are going to give me the liberal media line that they were given false intelligence about WMD.  Wrong!!! I fought in the Iraq war, did 3 tours there before retiring, we uncovered tons of WMDs, however the mainstream media wasn't too keen on reporting it because it didn't further their agenda.  Bush let 3000 people die in 9/11?  What are you in bed with the President of Iran?  Terrorists already took responsibility for 9/11. Just think if Pres. Clinton would have taken custody of Bin Laden when he was offered up to him 9/11 may never have happened, so tell me who is responsible for 9/11? It wasn't Bush.

6079 Smith W

 

@ pete:   Know this: bs is a “truther”.   At the UN yesterday, didn’t President Ahmadinejad agree with him?     ----------------  

One of my favorites of the morning:

"GM Resumes Political Giving"

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704129204575506352139305206.html?mod=WSJ_hp_mostpop_read

Sen. Brown has been a recipient.

Should campaign contributions be given to Democrats from a mostly U.S. taxpayer owned co.?

 

Pete

What I found funny was they need $133 a share for us to make our money back. Wonder if that is gonna happen!

Factitious

Pete - For 9/11, Bush deserves way more blame than he gets. It's not just that on Bush's watch, the FBI brushed aside clear signs that something was about to come down. It's that it happened because, despite the fact that on his way out, Clinton warned that terrorism was our #1 threat, Bush and Rice blew it off; backward-looking, they were still on red threat page and and picked up where Reagan left off (All Rice had was a commie-beating hammer, so everything looked like a commie nail.). Now, if you insist, you could argue, however improbably, that 9/11 would have happen anyway, but Bush's domestic security policy gaff clearly paved the way.

Pete

Yep. Just as I thought. Bush caused 9/11.

And Winston, I have owned Fords. Was brought up on them so that is what I buy. I do also own a Jeep, but that is not really a road vehicle. Has another purpose. A Hardley mostly made here, and a Hardley made in Italy. The Sprint is more of a rarity that I use for vintage motorcycle events

6079 Smith W

 

@ pete:   I ain’t buying the stock outright. I'll undoubtedly own it in some of my passive diversified equity funds.     Each and every car that my nuclear family has owned came from cos. H.Q’d in the U.S.   Among us we’ve owned 14 cars over the yrs. (Even owned an AMC Hornet once.)  

We currently drive GM autos – these will be our last.

Unabasho

~
I vote for the truth
So keep up the good work, Chris
Tell it like it is
~

6079 Smith W

 

@ Factitious:    

If you want to fault Pres. Bush for 9-11 when he was only < 8 mos. into his presidency; then you must hold Pres. Obama responsible for the state of the economy after he’s been in office for 20 mos.

The fact is that most of the military and intelligence operations were still in place and functioning as they had under the Clinton Admin.

Pres. Reagan beefed up defense spending, Pres. Clinton reduced it in order to help support increased domestic spending. Remember the "peace dividend"?

Red threat? The USSR imploded in 1991.

Unabasho

"Tons of WMD'S" ?!!
Methinks hUGHjASS is taking liberties with the definition of WMD.

HughJass

Me thinks unabash is speaking from his arse, like I said, I was there and was part of a team responsible for safely removing them.  At one site alone we found in excess of 50,000 pounds of munitions that had warheads containing both sarin and tabun.  This was just one site.  Like I said the media and the government will only tell you what they want you to hear.  The Bush administration did not release information on what was found on the basis of national security.  The current administration won't release it because it would expose them as the liars they really are.

6079 Smith W

  

@ Unabasho:

So you seriously believe that the U.S. govt. has told its citizens all the facts about the Iraq Invasion and it’s aftermath?

Unfortunately, it would not be in Mr. Obama and the Dems best interests to release some info that may help to counter the detrimental image that they wish to paint regarding Pres. Bush.

It’s more politically useful to them to obfuscate. We're talking politics here - not "truth." 

Saddam had it; where did it go? (I still think that Syria may hold part of the answer.)

Where’s the credit to Mr. Bush for causing Libya to dismantle their WMD program?

You do know that Ike abandoned American POWs in N. Korea don't you?

Secrets come out years later. Usually after those who really cared are long dead.

Pundit

 Bryan are you sad the Fern hasn't mentioned you?

It seems that he has turned his foul language into a successful new narrative. (again, simply google redfern to see all the positive coverage of this incident.)

6079 Smith W

 

In this video, Mr. Redfern helps to illustrate the absurdity of the Democrat socialist policies.   They seriously and idiotically believe that a piece of legislation guarantees a positive result in the world of reality?   Just exactly how are college age adults and those who graduated and are now looking for work guaranteed health insurance?   To think that this will not push up health care costs and therefore premiums is absurd.   If the parents lose their jobs and the premiums aren’t paid – doesn't everyone in the family potentially lose their health insurance coverage?   If their health care garbage was so good, it would be evident and they wouldn't have to put on the hard sell. Only hucksters have to work so hard in attempting to convince the gullible.  

Redfern? Is that a communist houseplant?    

brutus smith

 I get a kick out of you Ford supporters. The UAW is in Chrysler, GM and FORD! So it wasn't the unions who brought GM and Chrysler down, it was the Repub CEO's. Such tools.

Pete

Comments on Fords from a guy who admitted he drives Dodge's? And wasn't it a FOREIGN company that owned Chrysler for the longest time?

Just curious as to why you support German companies Brutus? Thought you would be one to keep the money in the USA. You hate America don't ya? Admit it. Ya do.

And calling 60% of the US Citizens Nazis? Tisk tisk tisk

brutus smith

 Hey hugh, who was Commander and Chief when 9/11 happened? Typical Repubs, they would blame their own mother before accepting responsibility for anything. Disgusting.

HughJass

Hey BS who was the Pres when the unemployment rate shot up to 10%? Typical Dems, they would blame their own mother before accepting resposibility for anything. Revolting. LOL.  Sorry, you can't have it both ways.  Using your own rational the current economic mess this country is in sits squarely on the shoulders of Obama and the Dem controlled congress (which was controlled by the Dems before Bush left office).  Glad to see you are finally coming around.

brutus smith

 Were you polled pete? I wasn't, nor anyone I know.

Pete

What does it matter? Even if it is your 20% who disagree with you, to equate them to one of the most notorious genocidal regimes in the world is, unbelievable. So anyone who isn't of the same mind as you is carrying out a Final Solution as Hitler was trying to.

Pol Pot too? Baby Doc? Who else? WOW

HughJass

Oh, and while we are on the subject of American automakers and who is at fault for their demise please feel free to paste this link into your browser to see the quality of the UAW worker.  After seeing this you'll know why American cars aren't as good as they could be and why the auto industry is failing.

http://www.breitbart.tv/bailed-o...

Massengill Wins...

In the effort to cannonize Reagan many of the people on the right don't realize that during the second year of Reagan's first term the unemployment rate was over 10 %.  Apparently it only matters if Obama is in office. 

How dare Brutus use nazi comparisons....... Glenn Beck has the copyright on those and his tools like taxpayer and goofus like to repeat them like parrots.

Republican arguments are fact lite.

Sam

Redfern is losing it but, considering what is going to happen on Nov.2, can you blame him.

democrapers, higher taxes, potty mouth, and unemployed Nov.2

Pete

It seems to matter that Bush was in office less than a year when 9/11 happened it is all his fault.

So using the wisdom of the Libtards on here, the current economy is entirely Obie's fault correct? He has been in almost 2 years, which is twice as long as Bush was in during that day in 2001. Using leftie math, that means it is all Obie's doing

Massengill Wins...

Was the 10% unemployment for 8 monthsduring Reagan's second year in office Obama's fault?  As of today I am not aware of any event close to 911 under Obama and he has been in  office twice as long as Bush was before he had his first.  Does that mean in wingnut math that Obama has a record twice as good as Bush's?

brutus smith

hugh, Reagan was President when unemployment hit 10%. 

brutus smith

 So pete, if we get attacked while Obama is Prez, he bears no responsibility right?

brutus smith

 pete, what would people like yourself, right wingnuts who rather see the country crash and burn rather than admit anything that Obama does helps our country, people like you who rather see people die from the lack of healthcare, be called? 

6079 Smith W

 

  bs writes:   “…rather see the country crash and burn rather than admit anything that Obama does helps our country,”  

By following the Cloward and Piven strategy of overwhelming the social services programs and fostering a socialist revolution, Mr. Obama is helping the country to “crash and burn.”

http://www.commondreams.org/headline/2010/03/24-4

 

Bryan Dubois

Smith,

Interesting that you brought up Cloward & Piven.  Obama's policies certainly fit the strategy.  Obama announced that he sought radical change in America - so why is it so hard to believe this?

Brutus, could you please share with us what the strategy is and what it means?  (Well, what you believe it means anyway.)

All,  below is a graph representing spending by the federal government from 1967 to 2009:

Brutus, do you see the hyper-spending as a problem? 

brutus smith

 Ahhh yes winnie, it's funny when you cut and paste something from Common Dreams. It's even more funny when you don't understand what it is saying. ROFLMAO!

6079 Smith W

 

@ Mr. Dubois:  

The following is a quote from a fantastic but also a rather long and somewhat technical business article:   “All told, the United States will have a fiscal-debt-to-GDP ratio of 100% this year, and 110% next year—if not higher, depending on the tax receipts in 2011. A lot of wishful thinking is going on for 2012, but the way the numbers are playing out, another trillion dollars’ worth of debt is very likely in the offing—which would put the total fiscal-debt-to-GDP ration to 120%.”

Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/watch-out-treasury-bonds-are-as-weak-as-a-termite-riddled-house-2010-9#ixzz10ZAQj3sl  
Suffice it to say that historically most democracies tend to inflate their way out of debt. By making the dollar lose value, savers and investors are gonna get hammered!   I was somewhat surprised to see that today on his NY Times blog, lefty economist Mr. Krugman writes that it’s gonna get "ugly”:   http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/09/25/default-is-in-our-stars/?src=twt&twt=NytimesKrugman     Even Mr. Bernanke says that he’s essentially clueless:   http://www.marketwatch.com/story/bernanke-defends-models-that-missed-credit-crunch-2010-09-24   It reads as though he said:  The procedures were correct, but the patient failed to cooperate and died.     I bought a few gold shares (GLD) last Oct. I’m up about 23%. Thinking about buyin’ more. It’s acting like an alternative reserve currency.  

Unfortunately, there's not much shelter available from the fiscal and economic storm that's fast approaching.

 

 

brutus smith

 bryan, I'd be happy if the wealthy people would invest all that taxpayer money Bush gave them in American companies instead of gambling with it. That way the taxpayers wouldn't get double dipped.

6079 Smith W

@ bs:

Not-to-worry. As it currently stands, on Jan. 1, everyone will have a tax increase to help pay for Obama’s ballooning budget deficits.

Sam

Just remember when dealing with the left wing wackos. Never argue with an idiot, they drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.