UPDATED BLOG: Redfern In Action; No Apologies; Absolutely No Apologies

Bryan Dubois
Sep 24, 2010

Language warning.

This is a video of Chris Redfern, former Dem state representative, at a town hall meeting.

And I face a quandary here:  Decency standards dictate that this type of material is not posted on the Sandusky Register however, I'm going to take a chance because the public needs to see how this guy conducts himself and the disrespect he has for political opponents.

Once again, language warning.  Redfern is the current leader of the Ohio Democratic Party. 

(Via New World Czar)

"Excuse my language!"

Want more Chris Redfern?  Check out his Twitter feed - where he spends much of his time cheerleading for Ted Strickland.

Yeah, sure, he's trying to whip up and excite the base during a townhall meeting.  He's just trying to sound passionate.  I know, I know.  He's not an elected official anymore.  I know.  He is the Democrat's political leader though - and this is how he believes political battles should be fought.

UPDATE:   NO APOLOGIES.

Redfern reacts with foolish stubborness.  Not only is he wrong - but his reaction is counter to the way a true political leader would react if he was interested in building support for his policies.  But then again, the Dems plan on ramming their policies down your throat, so why not use the same bullheaded principles when campaigning for them?  (Hat tip to L. for that link.)

In other words:  "THEY STARTED IT!!"

Mr. Redfern just can't seem to get the issues straight here.  Aside from pretending that the language he used wasn't obscene (it clearly was) - he makes no mention of the fact that disrespect towards political opponents is the tactic with which most people have a problem.  If that type of political attack were condoned, discourse in this country would quickly turn into back-and-forth name calling.  (Some people say it already has.)

My point about Redfern is that he's supposedly a party leader.  He's setting a very poor example not only with his language - but with the demonizing and name calling.  Redfern sets the bar no higher than some of the commenters on this site who throw the Hitler comparison around.  (Can anyone really respond to an accusation like that without being accused of wrestling with the pigs?)

The irony is that he closed his "No apologies" blog post with a condemnation of the other side's political tactics which, as I said before and most people know, will result in a back-and-forth that completely prevents any meaningful discussion of the issues.

Another Update: 

Redfern has again updated his blog at the Ohio Dem website with a refusal to set any kind of wise example.  He clearly doesn't get it.

It's kinda funny to watch because not only is he muddying the water on the healthcare issue, he's showing independents the Dem's style of governing.  It's a fascinating train wreck to watch.  Changing course this late in the game won't really do the party any good anyway, although it would be entertaining to see Redfern apologize after 2 blog posts explaining why he has refused to do so.  I can only imagine how many Dems with any political sense have pulled him aside and said, "Hey, this is probably not the way we should be conducting ourselves."

By the way:  Pundit has uncovered simply googled a news segment from CNN which tells a tale of Astroturfing in the Republican party.   (Actually it tells the tale of a pair of wealthy brothers who fund Republican activities, which is not exactly the same as bussing people in for a fake protest where the protestors fold under questioning, but whatever.  Watch the video.)

I'm shocked. 

The left has George Soros.  The right has the Koch brothers.

Comments

Pundit

 "hat tip" someone's reading mike allen.

6079 Smith W

 

Actually, it's not that Mr. Obama is Hitler, but his socio-economic beliefs and actions in the area of corporatism and collectivism have a certain similarity. 

Also, fascist leader Mussolini was an admirer of Keynesian economics as is Mr. Obama and many other East and West Coast liberals.

If ObamaCare was really beneficial, it would be evident and the Progressives wouldn't have to do a hard sell.

Generally only scam artists and hucksters have to work so hard in attempting to convince the gullible of the worthwhile value of their useless product.

The Dems could really use a Bernie Madoff to help sell their snake oil.

 

brutus smith

 pete, yes and yes.

Pete

So the vast majority of Americans are just as bad as the people who put the Jews into the ovens at Aushwitz because they do not agree with a minority opinion on health care? Huh.

Vote Democrat people so we can continue having the Brutus' of this country equate us to Himmler and Hitler

stormy

Yes and yes?  Most americans are as bad as nazis?????????   WOW!!!!!!!!

As Nov. 2nd gets closer, and the handwriting on the wall gets clearer, Brutus is really showing his true colors.  The bitterness and hatred are thick enough to cut with a knife.

brutus smith

Once again I must remind you, the only poll that counted was in November 2008 when 80% wanted healthcare reform. And it sure seems funny the Repub health plan released yesterday looks familiar. Let me think ........, oh yeah, looks like Obamacare!

brutus smith

 stormy, I wasn't polled, nor anyone I know of. Were you?

Pete

Don't back track now Brutus. Too late. You have already stated, plainly and on here, that any American that doesn't agree with with your position about health care is a Nazi and as bad as the Waffen SS. The people that operated the Death Camps.

If it is 60%, or even your noted number of 20%, I have a hard time with the fact that you think 3/5 or 1/5 of the citizens of the country are as bad as the people who committed genocide

Signature updated to reflect the position of Brutus on his fellow Americans. He thinks we are all killers like Himmler if we do not agree with him

Pete

 

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The 60% of people in this country who do not want socialized health care are as bad as the Nazis Brutus? You are saying that your Progressive Party stance is that the majority of Americans are like the SS?

brutus smith says

 pete, yes and yes

 

Preserved in case he tries to edit or delete his post

brutus smith

 Who would want to deny people healthcare because of a pre existing condition? Patriotic Americans? I don't think so. Who would want to put a cap on cancer treatments? Patriotic Americans? I don't think so. Only someone who had hate and disdain for fellow Americans.

Massengill Wins...

Just curious... what should we call 50 million people without insurance?

Sam

Redfern is losing it but, considering what is going to happen on Nov.2, can you blame him.

democrapers, higher taxes, potty mouth, and unemployed Nov.2

Pete

Well Masse, since I am one of them and don't like the idea of socialized medicine, I guess we call the Nazis. As we all know, if one person in a group is against the wishes of the Progressives, every one in that group is against it

Example: Racists in the Tea Party

The New World Czar

@Massengill...

Q: Just curious... what should we call 50 million people without insurance?

A: 10 million unfortunate and 40 million underachieving. Do you continue to feed someone who continually begs for food or do you teach them how to fish?

brutus smith

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Pete

Right wing to bottom dweller? Nice change

Maybe it is because we didn't kick back all that money to the DEMOCRATS running Cuyahoga County to get work. Ethics ya know. Well, no you wouldn't know about ethics would ya. Democrats don't appear to have any

 

 Oh, and Masse, union contractors don't pay benefits? Some one better call National!

6079 Smith W

Speaking of Nazis; has anyone noticed the eerie similarity in the hair style and mustaches between Obama’s top political advisor David Axelrod and Adolf Hitler?

 

And what's with the name "AXEL-rod"? Reminds me of the word: Axis.

 

 

brutus smith

 Excuses, excuses. Learn how to do your job and maybe someone will hire you.

stormy

I thought an axle WAS a rod; the name seems redundant.

brutus smith

 I'm not backtracking. By the way, explain this so called "socialized medicine" you are referring to. I wish we had Socialized medicine, that way we would pay half of what we pay now, no private insurance skimming off the top.

6079 Smith W

 

bs writes:   “I wish we had Socialized medicine, that way we would pay half of what we pay now, no private insurance skimming off the top.”   If you can construct a miraculous 50% reduction in health insurance premiums, then why not nationalize the auto, the property and casualty and the life insurance industries as well?   In your low-cost health care utopia, can lawyers sue for unlimited dollar amounts for malpractice?   Since the govt. owns around 68% of GM - why aren't the cars priced less than before?

 

brutus smith

 If people received regular health care malpractice lawsuits would go down, which by the way only account for at the most 1.5% of costs. It would take the guesswork out of a lot of medical decisions thereby reducing mistakes.

And what price do you put on a child who was butchered by a Doctor? Spell out what a human life is worth winnie. Let us know what you think a child's life is worth.

And the healthcare industry is nothing like the others you mentioned. Why do you hate the American people so much?  Does that Foreign company that writes your check pay you that much to be against America?

6079 Smith W

 

@ bs:   Preventive health maintenance as a cost reducer is a myth. Even when covered, people will still overwhelmingly only go to health care providers when they are ill.    It ain’t the legal settlements alone; it’s the excessive tests and procedures (defensive medicine practices) that help to push up medical costs.   So lawyers will still be able to sue in your health care utopia?   Doctors are butchering children? Wouldn’t it be less expensive to have a meat cutter do it?   If as you claim that you can reduce premiums by 50% in health care, why can’t you don’t do the same by socializing other insurance products? One provider = no competition = cost savings right?   Why do you believe in Marxism and cling to your faith in Obie?

 

brutus smith

 C'mon winnie, tell us what a child's life is worth. C'mon, go on record and tell us.

Sam

Redfern will have enough to apologize for on Nov. 3 when the democraps have record amount of losses.

 

democraps, higher taxes, potty mouth, unemployed Nov.2......

6079 Smith W

 

The worth of a child’s life? Why stop there?    Let’s see; Obama’s crazy socialist notion that by fiat that benefits can be increased while costs can be reduced will help to bankrupt the country.   Is total U.S. economic and fiscal collapse, leading to a lower standard of living for every American a satisfactory enough price for you?

 

Captain Gutz

brutus,

 

 Let us know what you think a child's life is worth?

I can't put a dollar amount on it, how much does a pro-abortionist/pro-lifer like yourself think a childs life is worth?

brutus smith

 gutz, I can't put a dollar amount on it either. That is why it should be up to the courts to decide. And the courts decided the other issue already. Roe vs. Wade.

Sam

brutie, typical lib, it's OK to kill innocent unborn children, but capital punishment is inhuman.

democrapers, higher taxes, defended criminals, unemployed Nov.2....

Salvatore

Why is it lawful to have an abortion because the courts say that an unborn child is not a human being? Yet the courts go after people who kill or injure an unborn child whether on purpose or accidently? Why is that? Why the double standard for an unborn child? Abortion okay. Injure or kill an unborn child not okay.

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