BLOG: Astroturfing & Exhaustion From Supporting The Obama Administration

Bryan Dubois
Sep 22, 2010

Astroturfing is a dishonest technique that large organizations use to give the impression that a movement has more support than it really does.

I'm embedding this video for your viewing pleasure.  If you've never seen a guy single-handedly stand up to an angry, hateful, slogan-chanting crowd to ask pointed questions - which result in blank, questioning stares and eventual retreat -- here's your chance.

Get over the fact that Glen Beck has anything to do with this video.  If you want to attack the man, do what the gentleman in the video says:  Support your jingoism.  "Glen Beck is hateful?  Give me one thing - one thing that he said that's hateful -- not 100 things -- just one thing."

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The other interesting video of late:

An Obama supporter asks the President if the current state of America is her "new reality."

She starts talking at :45

What kind of person believes that the President of the United States is the be-all, end-all key to American success?  The sad reality here is that this supporter is shocked that Obama could not deliver all the hopes and dreams he promised.  Did anyone actually believe that he could?

Comments

Chung Lee

Gee Bryan thanks for providing such objective coverage.  Just curious..... tell us more about Mr. Breitbart.  Has he ever been involved in any controversy or astroturfing organizations on the right or is this just something that the left does?  Enlighten Chung Lee.

Chung Lee

Chung Lee will tke Challenge "Name one thing that Glenn Back has said that was hateful"  Well Chung Lee remember the day he called the POTUS a racist.  Without proof...... that is a hateful and slanderous thing to say.  For extra credit Chung Lee would also like to say that Glenn Beck cannot say Woodrow Wilson without following it with "I hate that guy".  Chung Lee admit that protest people in that video were not so smart and remind Chung Lee of some protestors who wanted to keep the 10 Commandments in a court house and when asked to name the 10 Commandments..... the group of protestors could only come up with "Thou shall not murder".

Kramer

Buckle up Bryan,  you've insulted the annointed one.  Brutus will be here soon to rant about Bush!

Pete

Since Brutus won't be here for a while, I will fill in:

YOU'RE A RACIST BRYAN!!!!!!!!

BUSH WAS EVIL!!!!!!!!!!!

CHENEY IS THE DEVIL!!!!!!!!!!!!!

PELOSI IS A QUEEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

BECK IS PURE PURE EVIL!!!!!!!!!!!

HANNITY IS PURE EVIL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

FOX NEWS IS PURE EVIL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

REPUBLICANS ARE EVIL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

CONSERVATIVES ARE EVIL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

YOU HATE THE MIDDLE CLASS BRYAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

ANYONE MAKING OVER $200K A YEAR IS EVIL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Did I get that about right?

6079 Smith W

  

@ Monsieur Dubois:   Interesting first video. I watched the first few minutes. Perhaps the organizers need to better prep their bused-in rent-a-protestors for the next encounter. Do you think that they were paid union scale?   I enjoyed the dude with the shawl who angrily denied that he was being hateful. Can we say incongruent?   I liked the way they scurried away, reminded me of cockroaches when a light is cast on them.   Mr. Beck apologized for saying that Mr. Obama was a racist. However, it was and is the truth – he is.  

For one: While campaigning he referred to his grandmother who helped raise him as a “typical white woman” who was fearful of people of color. That reference wasn’t racist?

Massengill Wins...

Winston here is what he said:

I don't want to retract… I want to amend that I think it is much more of a theological question

Doesn't sound like much of an apology and it took him over a year to muster up that.  It appears that advertisers are less forgiving and that is why he only has people selling gold on his show (which he pushes himself).  A person with integrity would have difficulty doing that but fortunately Beck doesn't have to worry about that.

As far as Mr. Breitbart........isn't he the guy who frequently edits tape to send an inaccurate message?  Quite the hatchet job he did on Shirley Sherrod.  By the way, with his damaging video on Acorn, how many Acorn employees ended up being charged?  The answer is zero.. 

6079 Smith W
Re: Mr. Beck's apology:   "Context" is like the light of day isn't it?   Wallace: "Do you regret having called [Obama] a racist and saying he had a deep seated hatred for white people?"

Beck: "Of course I do. I don't want to retract the, um ... I want to amend that I think it is much more of a theological question, that he is a guy who understands the world through liberation theology, which is oppressor-and-victim. 'Racist,' first of all, it shouldn't have been said. It was poorly said. I have a big fat mouth sometimes and I say things. That's just not the way people should behave. And it was not accurate. It is liberation theology that has shaped his world view."  

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/08/29/glenn-beck-regrets-callin_n_698580.html

Regardless, I'll repeat my statement: Mr. Obama is a racist!

Bryan Dubois

Beck, Schmeck.    Dislike the guy all you want, but let's talk about liberation theology.  Sounds awfully similiar to class warfare, doesn't it?   The campaign message of "uniting the people" doesn't even sound congruent with liberation theology.

Class warfare:  Middle class against the upper class.

Liberation theology:  Victim against oppressor.

6079 Smith W

 

   Re: Shirley Sherrod   The WH practiced very poor mgmt. when they fired her without getting all the facts straight.   They also totally blew a golden opportunity to nail Mr. Brietbart for his reporting.   Of course poor mgmt. and incompetence is par for the course for this WH and president.   I'm enjoying watching the genius economic rats leaving the ship      New Flash (speaking of the WH's poor mgmt.):    The GM IPO will be delayed until after Nov. The WH doesn't want it to be a political issue in the upcoming elections.   Allowing politics to influence the timing of a business decision helps show that the future economic survivability of GM is very questionable.  
Chung Lee

Interesting that Dubois suggests that people are being uncivil and then posts a video from a discredited smear merchant such as Breitbart?  Did he stop and think that maybe this video may have been edited with the same shamelessness as his video of Ms. Sherrod?  Chung Lee doubts if that thought even crossed Dubois mind.  So much for being "fair" wouldn't you say?  By the way, is this astroturfing something only seen on the left?  One would think that in the spirit of being fair your would mention that there are a number of organizations on the right or the affiliation that Breitbart has with such organizations on the right.  Then again... that is what a real journalist would do!

Bryan Dubois

Oh sure, I recognize that video can be edited to give a certain impression, Chung.   That doesn't change the following facts:

  Breitbart was called a homosexual by a member of the crowd.  The video shows activists holding signs, but unable to answer basic questions about the signs they're holding. The video shows a clear example of astroturfing. The protestors are clearly filled with hate towards Glen Beck.

None of those aspects of the video can be edited in.

Did you watch the video?

Chung Lee

So it is wrong to call someone a homosexual but okay to call them a racist?  Is that what you try to say?

Bryan Dubois

Of course not.  Where did I say that?

Beck admits he has a big fat mouth.  He apologized for using the term racist.

Elevate your mind, Chung.

Liberation theology.  Class warfare.  Uniting vs. dividing.

Would you care to join the discussion or are you going to continue hurling mindless insults because you dislike Glen Beck?

Chung Lee

Elevate your mind Bryan.  It is clear why you are not a true journalist....you don't have enough of a mind to get a degree!  Don't put words in Chung Lee mouth.  Chung Lee never say he hate Glenn Beck (It is spelled Glenn anyway).  When you get your talking points... have you noticed he cannot say Woodrow Wilson without saying "I hate that guy"?  How can somebody sit and watch his show and think he is a uniter and not a divider?  Nevermind, Chung Lee already know the answer!

Chung Lee

Hey Bryan to show there are no hard feelings.... Chung Lee will give you $50 to start your college career at Terra Community College.  Maybe you can take Intro to Political Science?  Seriously, you work for company that will pay for your school and you do not go?  That says a lot to Chung Lee.

6079 Smith W

 

Mr. Obama explaining his racist comment:   "The point I was making was not that my grandmother harbors any racial animosity, but that she is a typical white person. If she sees somebody on the street that she doesn't know (pause) there's a reaction in her that doesn't go away and it comes out in the wrong way."   Was that every person of color “she doesn’t know” or maybe someone who is dressed like a gansta?   Her reaction “doesn’t go away”? So she was just unconsciously racist?   She helped raise him for Christ’s sake!   She didn’t abandon him like his mother and his father.   

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/03/20/obama-grandmother-was-a-t_n_92587.html

The guy reads like an ungrateful putz.

brutus smith

 I must have missed where Beck said he wasn't a racist. Even if he did apologize for saying it, where in his apology did he say he wasn't a racist?

6079 Smith W

 

@ CL:   I have a BA with a major in Poli. Sci. and a minor in History from BGSU.   Since graduating, I've continued to read and study and have taken a few courses at a couple community colleges.  

If Mr. Dubois needs backing up he can ask me. 

Send your $50.00 to Mr. Beck as an apology.

What's your highest grade level attained?

brutus smith

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6079 Smith W

@ bs:

So since Mr. Beck did not use the exact words that you want him to he didn't apologize?

How does that make any sense?

brutus smith

 winnie, did you grow up in a bubble? When did you make your 1st human contact outside your family? 25, 30 years old?

brutus smith

 winnie, the one making the accusation bears the burden of proof.

Chung Lee

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Taxpayer

Looks like all you liberal democracks are slowly coming to your end.  You are all slowly falling apart and it is comical to see it.  The concept of "OK for me, but not for you" has finally being addressed by the PEOPLE.  So, no liberal politician who VOTED for 0bama care is bragging about their vote to get re-elected.  Can any of you crybaby losers explain that?  So the liberal media goes out to find ANY negative signs at ALL the TEA party rallies and YOU don't like what Andrew Breitbart did in questioning total losers at a HATE rally?  Hmmm.  Monkey see, monkey do??  Ah, the total disparity and hypocrisy of the liberal democrack party.  Ha! Ha!  Aren't all of YOU so very PROUD to be members of liberalism and PROUD of your UNIONS?  Ha! Ha!  And now we have a professional, liberal black lady who is "exhausted" of defending 0bama.  Imagine THAT!!  I guess you liberals are now looking for a few crums to justify your total FAILURE.  GO Andrew Breitbart.  He is the ONLY one who was brave enough to get the TRUTH.  Don't like it?  Keep voting liberal.  You have all done it for decades so why stop now?  The tide is coming so get ready for total defeat.  In fact, I almost feel sorry for most of you.  Ha! Ha!

Unabasho

Hillarious. That big-mouth lying cheat Breitbart manages to shout down the whole crown, and interupts answers to his questions by repeatedly shouting the question. Notice they basically walked away from him. Dubois obviously watched this through his right-wingnut glasses.

Beck says, "...The leader is The People." Sure. As long as by "the People" you mean the greedy selfish people Beck pimps for. What a hypocrite.

Dubois gets his own blog column and STILL makes three post to his own comments to argue with his readers. Libertarians as uniters?!! Puh-LEEZ!!! This guy get way too much play.

brutus smith

 bryan, remember when you accused me of putting words in your mouth on another 1 of your blogs on voting issues? Seems I was right back then to say you voted like a right wing Repub. So I'll say it again, you are a right wing Repub, and your blogs are from a right wing Repub point of view.

Pundit

Examples of 'astroturfing' found: 

HERE

and

HERE

 

Now, I gotta go pull my shift at the hog plant. Later.

6079 Smith W

 

MWS writes:   Mr. Beck “…only has people selling gold on his show (which he pushes himself).”   Gold? I prefer much more liquidity than the coins.   I bought a few shares of the ETF (GLD) early last Oct. and it’s up almost 25% since.   Not that I got the idea from him, but based on gold’s performance ya shoulda maybe listened to him.   The way Mr. Obama and friends are trashing the U.S. economy through their profligate spending, even now gold may be a good investment.   Jim Rogers (used to run a successful hedge fund with Geo. Soros) says that gold probably has another 5-7 years to run:   http://jimrogers-investments.blogspot.com/2010/09/gold-prices-outlook.html

 

 

Cross

Forgive me for asking, but aren't all the people there <astroturfing by your terminology> adults who are there of their own free will voluntarily? Now, if you find out they are paid and there solely for cash, that's something completely different.

Whether you have 1000 people following the lead of Organizing for America, or 1000 following blindly behind Glenn Beck, you still have people marching lockstep.

This story is much ado about nothing. You have a guy who blogs about current events trying to debate left wing common folk regarding a man they know little about. I agree their signs were a bit hostile, but nothing really beyond what we see at most political rallies.

The second video is far more effective and is honest. I didn't care for Obama's answer, and I think the moderates and their anger over the economy will hurt incumbents more than the TEA party or any 'constitutional' crisis some imagine we have.

brutus smith

 Could you imagine a Bushbot questioning der leader? Not!

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