For A "Post-Racial" Country We Sure Are Obsessed With Race

Bryan Dubois
Jul 24, 2010

 

After having elected the nation's first black president, we were told that a great hurdle was cleared.  That the dream of Martin Luther King Jr. was reached because we elected a man based on the "content of his character" and not the color of his skin.   Two years after the election, we see that this country's obsession with race has only intensified. 

We're told that race doesn't matter - shouldn't matter, but the race factor is pounded into our heads as if it's the deciding factor.

From Border Patrol agents who act in an inexplicably racist manner to the weekly all-things-racial agitprop from newspaper columnists - if race can be an issue, it seems that race is the only issue.  (In Rufus Sander's latest column, can his praise of a conversative like Herman Cain be explained any other way than by pointing out that Cain is black?)  A new law in Arizona is construed as "racist" because 99% of the people who violate immigration laws in Arizona are of one particular race.   Is there a way to protect the US border without it being described as racist?

The era of hope, change, unity has devolved into a racially charged shouting match.

Be on the lookout for the ulterior motives of anyone who cries "racist" too quickly.  (Not the Border Patrol guys, mind you.  I can only imagine both of those agents will be fired in the near future if what was written in the pages of this newspaper was accurate.)  In political debate, claims of racism are often abused to distract from the main issue in an argument.

In Arizona, the claims of racism are being used to distract people from the issue of whether or not the government is upholding it's duty to secure the US border.

Tea party activist are regularly maligned with accusations of racism to distract from the issues on which they attempt to focus:  Out-of-control govenment spending will never be addressed if the left-wing is able to cut the conversation short with a flippant accusation of racism.  (Which I've heard is a tactic being promoted among left wing groups who see how effective it can be.)

A phony charge of racism seems to be lurking behind every political debate.  One dare not make a simple observation if it involves race for fear of being branded a racist.

Where are we headed on this issue?

Comments

Sam

Post racial president or a president who uses race to his political advantage?

 

 

 

1.)The national NAACP has promoted every issue on racial lines instead of looking for common ground, example the false attacks on the tea party, no comment from the Obama administration.  

2.) The constant attacks from "LaRaza" (the race) promoting everything as anti-Hispanic, again no comment from Obama only calling the Arizona law "racist" and then admitting he or his attorney general had not even read the law.  They later backed off and stated they opposed it because it "violated federal law", it mirrors federal law. Yet they are silent on "sanctuary laws" from left leaning cities that do violate federal law, why?

3.)During his run for president he ditched his two decade pastor Rev Wright, but only after media pressure, yet he sat in  that church fro 20 years and heard the racial rants of this mad man.

4.) He characterized his own white grandmother as a "typical white person."  His wife indicted America as "just downright mean" and she was never proud of this country, she was then hidden from the media..

5.) Referred to the actions of  the Cambridge Police Department "stupidly" without all the facts just because it involved a black friend,

6). The short lived appointment of Van Jones, need I say more.

 7.) Nominated a supreme court justice who stated "she was wise in a manner a white male never could be".

8.) Silent on the New Black Panther Party and their hate rants.

http://www.youtube.com/v/hVcfymOvoUo&hl=en_US&fs=1"

Post racial or race as a political advantage?

 

Bryan Dubois

Sam, good summary.  Most of what Obama says he stands for, his actions prove opposite.  Racial equality?  I don't think so.

I believe he aims to practice racism as a means to swing the historical pendulum back the other way to compensate for wrongs committed not against him, but of other people who lived and died long before us.  Example:  For a period of time, blacks were openly intimidated in this country.  Now that Obama is in power, he's going to openly allow the blacks [panthers] to openly intimidate whites with impunity.  This is tit-for-tat playground behavior not behavior of the leader of the free world.  We now have federal laws and protection against discimination, but Obama prefers passive aggressive acts of real vengeance, not peaceful social progress to bring about change.

Obama has no interest in practicing racial equality.  He's simply an agent of extremism looking for collective revenge - just as his pastor Reverend Wright preached. 

brutus smith

 Now if you two boobs would have given examples from both sides I could see your point. But when you only point out things from one side and then proceed to argue that the other side isn't racist, IS RACISM!

6079 Smith W

@ Mr. Dubois:

I’m happy to see it when a writer enters the discussion.

Reading your comments helped me recall the tenor that was initially set for this presidency by Rev. Joseph Lowery in the Inauguration Benediction when he asked God to better the lives of peoples of respective races and then ended his “prayer” with the phrase: “…when white will embrace what is right."

Sure sounded fallacious, inclusive and racist to my ears.

In context:

“We ask you to help us work for that day when black will not be asked to get in back, when brown can stick around, when yellow will be mellow, when the red man can get ahead, man; and when white will embrace what is right,”

Bryan Dubois

Good example, Mr. Smith. 

Thanks for weighing in.

Bryan Dubois

Brutus, I do believe that Sam offered 8 examples to support his opinion.  Leaving the other side out isn't "racism" it's bias.  Bias is not only acceptable in opinions - it's expected.

My example of real racism was the Border Patrol agents.  Did you read the article before commenting?

Bluto

Let's face it , we are ALL racist at some point in our lives . I believe racism stems from fear and fear is a natural survival instinct that all living things have and to deny that is to deny our very nature . What makes us civilized is that we move beyond that natural fear and mistrust of what is different or strange to us . Racism will always be with us in some way or form . How we face and deal with our fear of those unlike us is what will bring about real change . Understanding is the real hope that we should strive for in life . We WILL have many personal set backs in this endeavor but the endeavor is what will enrich us ultimately.

Bryan Dubois

Bluto, I agree with you.  I believe that we're all racists to a degree.  (Black people tend to "stick together" as do white people.  Latinos, Italians, Poles etc.  That's why we have pockets of ethnicity in cities.)    I guess civilization defines what degree is acceptable vs. not acceptable. 

 

Bryan Dubois

Bluto,  just for fun:

Acceptable level of racism:  Joking around about why you think white people are silly.  Choosing to live next to people of the same race.  Sitting with a group of people of your race at lunch.

Unacceptable level of racism:  Hiring or not hiring someone because of their race.  Giving preferential treatment in a public institution based solely on race.

We could go on and on with these.

I think the problem is that some people don't understand the difference.

brutus smith

 

6079 Smith W says:

 

“We ask you to help us work for that day when black will not be asked to get in back, when brown can stick around, when yellow will be mellow, when the red man can get ahead, man; and when white will embrace what is right,”

Enlighten us as to what part of that is not true.

Chung Lee

Once again Chung Lee must get a good laugh out of the pre-fab sophomoric "incite" (insight provides value).  Chung Lee would like to point out that this Black Panther Movement consists of less than 20 members and the manufactured controversy that Faux plays 24/7 is of the same 3 dudes.  Clearly these "Black Panthers" are misguided but a group of 20 dudes is far from newsworthy.  Just curious, if this problem is so widespread....why does Faux only show one clip and why did the Bush Justice Department drop the charges against them?  Hey "Du boys" how about doing a google search on Tea Party Racist Signs.  I bet even you could find thousands of examples and not just from one source.

Just curious, how come the Tea Party was "founded" after the first black president took office?  The facts show that Reagan tripled the national debt during his administration and Bush was far from a fiscal conservative and he left the liability of 2 wars on the table.  Chung Lee is sure that this is all coincidence?  Could you imagine if it was Barak Obama that said "Deficits don't matter" instead of Cheney?  If the Tea Party was formed on principle instead of racism that would have been the founding moment,

brutus smith

 bryan, I was commenting on your's and sam's post. Comprehension my boy, comprehension. And sam has yet to prove what Rev Wright said wasn't true, failed to show what Sotomayer said isn't true, failed to look up the final outcome of the Cambridge police incident, and failed on the other points too. Are you bi-racial bryan or sam? Whites can stereotype and blacks can't? How many links to pictures and videos showing tea baby racism do you want? You are a typical right winger, you look for 1 incident to justify your everyday actions. What do you think briethbart was doing? He was trying to justify tea baby racism by trying to depict a black woman as being racist. And in her case she would have every right to have racist feelings since her father was murdered by whites in the south and it was covered up and dismissed. How would you feel if it were you?

6079 Smith W

 @ Mr. Dubois: 

One of the most eye opening books that I ever read on this subject was “Up From Slavery” by Booker T. Washington. 

In essence, Mr. Washington taught that if one sought to be the best plumber, bricklayer, etc., skin color would not matter and that the “white man” would seek you out. 

Unfortunately, the struggle for racial equality was won early last century by those like W. E. B. Du Bois who favored a political route as opposed to Mr. Washington’s education path.

Sadly, the U.S. seems to have more of the confrontationally vocal Jesse Jackson’s and Al Sharpton’s as opposed to the likes of Bill Cosby, Walter Williams or Herman Cain. 

IMO, for overall social betterment, it would be best for all if politics were tabled and results orientation was the focus - education, education, education. 

However, as the saying goes: 

You can lead a horse to water, but you can’t make him drink; but you can make him thirsty.  

Simply providing the path to education is not enough. The U.S. spends more on education than any country in the world. The will to succeed must also be instilled; therein I believe, lays the simple yet seemingly difficult key.

 

DFTT

 

 

 

Bryan Dubois

Smith,

The political "solution" never seems to be the best solution, does it?  They rely on force rather than choice and force always has a way of eventually backfiring. 

Smith W, just curious:  Do you think Obama knew what would be said by the Rev at the benediction?

brutus smith

 I have a question for you race relations experts. How many of your relatives were hung just because they were white? 

6079 Smith W

 @ Mr. Dubois:

Speaking of education: You may recall that even Oprah Winfrey initially supported inner city education in Chicago, abandoned her efforts and opened a school in Africa.

 To their credit, the Africans appreciate the commonsensical fact that education is potentially a way out of poverty.

The wrongheaded lefty pogroms of simply re-distributing wealth from the productive to the unproductive without the necessity for effective results will, if continued, ultimately produce economic disaster for the U.S.

Why bother getting an education when by simply voting for the right politician will help one to achieve an adequate lifestyle?

That process is fiscally unsustainable.

Bryan Dubois

I do recall the Oprah Winfrey story.   Sustainability seems to be lost on some of these people.  They're products of the destructively over-indulgent lives we celebrated so long in this country.  What I don't agree with is this belief that no matter how much you tax people, pressure the already abused welfare system that we'll have money to keep throwing.  As if our country is drawing from unending cash supplies.

I wonder if the people who voted for Obama as a means to have their mortgage paid, their cars paid for and not having anything else to worry about are satisfied with how his actions have pressured the life-blood of our country to the point that they've slowed the production of wealth?

(I'm digressing!)

As far as that benediction goes, my point on that is that a benediction sets the tone (as you pointed out) and I can't help but believe Obama knew what was going to be said...

Raoul Duke

I guess I have to accept that a lot people don't think like I do, just as much as I have accepted that some people don't look like I do. That's up to me, not them.

6079 Smith W

Mr. Dubois asks:

“Do you think Obama knew what would be said by the Rev at the benediction?”

IMO, if he didn’t, his advisors like Axelrod knew. That kinda stuff has to be approved. Plus the “Rev” had a reputation. He publicly confronted POTUS GW Bush at Mrs. M.L. King’s funeral.

I lived in the NW suburbs of Chicago for just short of twenty-five years and left last yr. to return to Ohio. I understand very well – The Chicago Way.

(I miss the pizza and Italian food tremendously!!!)

I’m fairly astute politically  (I have a BA with a major in Poli. Sci. and a minor in History) and I NEVER heard of Mr. Obama until he ran for the U.S. Senate. To the best of my knowledge the man was a “zero” legislatively.

Bluto

RE: Bryan               I agree , people don't understand and I include myself  in with the many at times . I am of mixed heritage of a certain ethnic kind ( with respect to Big Chuck and Little John ) and have been mistaken for just about any race under the sun and even though I consider myself a human being before anything else I still fall into those familiar paths just like everyone else . Even so far as to laugh at off color jokes (excuse the pun) . We will all do these things from time to time , it is just the way we are and besides  most jokes are told at some else's expense anyway . You have to have a sense of humor or you will go crazy is my belief. I just try to keep it all in perspective . That's my best excuse anyhow. I guess when I truly think about it I have always been more of an outsider then anything , even within the confines of my family . Don't get me wrong ,I love my family and try to respect others but I like my solitude . It brings me a sense of peace and helps my clarity of thought . So , levels of accept-ism is the norm for the everyday world in a world of groups and individuals.

Bryan Dubois

Bluto, point well taken.  It takes all kinds!   I think I'm part of the same group you're describing...

brutus smith

 13 trillion in debt from free market capitalism isn't economic disaster? Who knew.

brutus smith

 

Bryan Dubois says:

"I wonder if the people who voted for Obama as a means to have their mortgage paid, their cars paid for and not having anything else to worry about are satisfied with how his actions have pressured the life-blood of our country to the point that they've slowed the production of wealth?"

 

If others had doubts about your membership in the right wingnut party, you just put their doubts aside.

Sam

once again brutie has his panties in a bunch because he lacks facts so he falls back too the lib tactic, call the other side racist.  Post racial president, sorry just the opposite, uses race for political advantage.  Admits he lacks all the facts, still he calls the police actions "stupidity."   

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For the ctics of Fox News, unlike the lib media this report was unbiased, without judgement and both sides were given equal time. "Fair & Balanced" 

Kimo

re: actions have pressured the life-blood of our country to the point that they've slowed the production of wealth?

When you purchased your, Liz Mobile, (the one she used in the police chase) the money YOU sent out of this country, "helped pressure the life-blood out of this country".

The shifting of money from pocket to pocket, and ignore the trade deficit, started long before Obama.

 

Bryan Dubois

LOL @ Kimo.  Pal, the Liz mobile was a minor mistake compared to the major folly of getting involved with the situation in the first place.  Life lesson learned:  Never get between a person and the enemies they make for themselves. 

Sam, I've found that there's no sense in arguing with somebody who clings blindly to liberal beliefs.  The majority of liberal beliefs are rooted in self-loathing and that's not a pretty thing to get mixed up in.  (But that's another blog post!)

6079 Smith W

@ Mr. Dubois:

RE: Liberals/Socialists/Marxists/Progressives/Fascists/Democrats/Authoritarians/Totalitarians - the term is "ideologues". 

Have you heard or read the Racist-in-Chief’s weekend address as yet? 

Allow me to synopsize it for you: 

It’s Bush’s fault. 

Lessons from Obamamology 101:

Admit nothing, deny everything and make counter-accusations.

http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/2010/07/24/weekly-address-moving-forward-economy-vs-moving-backward

Bryan Dubois

Smith,

What good is all the talking when the average small business owner isn't expanding business for fear of new taxes from health care "reform?"

They are forcing change and getting unintended consequences.  Such is the involuntary-socialist way...

Kimo

re:The majority of liberal beliefs are rooted in self-loathing....

How to win friends and increase circulation.

Are you on the payroll at the SR?

Or are you getting a free ride to promote Bryan?

brutus smith

David E. Frank, a former prosecutor in Massachusetts who is now a senior news reporter for Massachusetts Lawyers Weekly,[35] commented that, from a legal standpoint, "the decision not to prosecute certainly seems to be the correct one." In his analysis, even if the prosecution could prove all of the disputed factual allegations in Crowley's report, Massachusetts case law does not consider offensive and abusive language to be disorderly conduct per se, and they would be unlikely to prevail in court.

He arrested him because he was embarrassing him. Once he knew who he was and knew he wasn't violent, he just should have got in his car and drove away. Therefore he acted stupidly and chose to keep it going.  And what a joke with the Faux news clip. Where did she get those guys to interview at the actor's guild? ROFLMAO!

 

columbus avenue

It is a simple as black or white.

brutus smith

 So bryan, why didn't they expand their business the last 8 years?

Bryan Dubois

Brutus, that's a good question we should ask small business owners.  I can't speak for what was in their mind for the last 8 years, nor can you.  What we can ask them is why they're wary about expanding now.

The answer I'm getting is that economic uncertainty coupled with an ever-looming threat of taxation is putting small business owners on guard.

What's the answer you're getting?

Kimo

re:The majority of liberal beliefs are rooted in self-loathing....

How to win friends and increase circulation.

Are you on the payroll at the SR?

Or are you getting a free ride to promote Bryan?

Chung Lee

Sure it is all about taxation and it has nothing to do with the drying up of the credit markets.  Banks are not lending. Taxes are nothing more than a talking point.   Even if taxes go up.... good businesses will grow.  Let's not forget during the Bush administration there was a company called Enron and they paid taxes only 2 of their last 10 years and business.  Did Chung Lee mention that they were the 6th largest company in the US when they went bust?  Can't quite blame Obama for that one.  Seems interesting that the Republicans now want to stop regulations that would prevent that disaster again. 

brutus smith

 What I am hearing is that big business wants the economy to remain bad until after the Nov elections. They want their wealthy loving friends (Republicans) to get back in office so they can complete the destruction of the middle class. Their reasons of uncertainty don't hold water. That's what I'm seeing and hearing.

Bryan Dubois

Brutus, you must have some really "interesting" friends.

Joe JACKSON

OBAMA IS NOT A "BLACK" ! He is a half breed MULATTO ! Look up the definition in the dictionary!

Kimo

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brutus smith

 Barack Obama is our 1st African American President.

brutus smith

 bryan, do a little reading here.

http://www.businessinsider.com/2...

Kimo

Let's see if this flies?

Why would anyone post: "The majority of liberal beliefs are rooted in self-loathing".

That is a "personal attack" on anyone that is a Democrat and or a Liberal.

When someone spews those kinds of comments, I can't help wondering what the motive is.

In my twenty four years of government service, that behavior was filed under, "make yourself look good, by making someone else look bad". "If all else fails smear the hell out of them". "It's not how you win that counts, it's the win that counts".

How sad that we have stooped so low.

 

 

Kimo

BYW

Kimo is a Hawaiian name.

I am an American.

 

I do have a birth certificate to prove it.

I just threw that in here to inform you "Birthers".

Don't want any trouble from them people, they are vicious!

The fireworks on Kelleys just finished, nice display, if you find any misspellllled words, I was distactored.

Mime Bloggling

 Barack Obama is our first bi-racial President. Bill Clinton was our first "black" President. ;)

Katelih-Trailer...

 Yes, you are absolutely right, Mime Bloggling. 

Bryan Dubois

lol @ Mime. 

He has an office in Harlem.  That must prove it!

Chung Lee

Chung Lee think if "self loathing" is building arguments based on fact.... so be it.  The alternative is to be ill informed, biased and reliant on talking points Tea Party Type.

disabledamerican53

---> QUESTION? if the Scientist say everybodies beginnings started  from Africa, how much DNA makes one blaxk and one white?

    I would like to use them racist laws to benifit from. Or you afraid to touch this question?

6079 Smith W

Jim Webb (D-VA) wrote a piece in the weekend WSJ entitled: 

“Diversity and the Myth of White Privilege” 

I thought that his conclusion was interesting:

“Nondiscrimination laws should be applied equally among all citizens, including those who happen to be white. The need for inclusiveness in our society is undeniable and irreversible, both in our markets and in our communities. Our government should be in the business of enabling opportunity for all, not in picking winners. It can do so by ensuring that artificial distinctions such as race do not determine outcomes.

Memo to my fellow politicians: Drop the Procrustean policies and allow harmony to invade the public mindset. Fairness will happen, and bitterness will fade away.”

Read more: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703724104575379630952309408.html?KEYWORDS=JAMES+WEBB

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@ Mr. Dubois: Congratulations on making it into the "Top Comments" section. Who could have imagined that "race" would be such a hot topic? :)

DFTT

 

Raoul Duke

It shouldn't be about laws. As so called "Christians," you'd think we would at least try to have tolerance for "everyone" who is different than we are. It's currently politically correct to hate Middle Easterners and Mexicans. We are so far removed from the time of slavery and mass killings of Native Americans that we have no concept of the general hatred white people once had for them. How can we expect things to get better within this country when we have isolated ourselves so much from the rest of the world with our arrogance?

Kimo

re:so be it

I asked pointed questions.

Basic bottom fishing.

Listed possibles.

"Someone" went whining that my questions were personal attacks?

One of the more interesting things about these troll boards, is what gets deleted and what doesn't.

Burns a lot of daylight, and moonlight if you look at the times.

:-)

Chung Lee

Kimo they no want to talk about issues they just what to spew their rhetoric.  Lots of projection of intent too.  When the fallacy of their argument is point out the Republicans like to say that it is a hateful attack.  Even the title of this rant  "We sure are obsessed about race",  Well I think the "we" should be clarified and once it is........ "we" find that it is the same 20% that have been against anything Barak Obama. 

Chung Lee also get good laugh out Bryan claiming that Democrats are self loathing.  First of all, if anybody is self loathing is is the Blacks who think they are Republicans and the Gays who live in the shadows and vote Republican ie Log Cabin Republicans.  Another point Chung Lee wonders what type of newspaper thinks it is a good idea to associate with someboyd like Dubois who has no credentials or original thought?  One more thing...... Chung Lee know a thing or two about business and it is never a good idea to call your customers and potential customers "self loathing"  Have nice day.

Mime Bloggling

Chung Lee:  "First of all, if anybody is self loathing is is the Blacks who think they are Republicans"

Oh my, oh my Chung Lee...who is now not basing his notion on facts?

Tell that to our growing Black GOP friends here:

http://www.nbra.info/index.cfm?fuseaction=home.main&x=2096787

 

Kimo

Obama's Poll Numbers Down, Imaginary Racism Up“ by Ann Coulter

From the NBRA web site.

I wonder if Ann Coulter would consider it a personal attack if I asked her what her motive is and where her money comes from.

Follow the money, look at the people quoted.

Turns out to be the same people behind the Tea Party Movement, financed by the same people that smeared Kerry.

Not much to crow about bub..........

 

brutus smith

 I love it when our resident racists here try to grab any straw they can to justify their racism. How many black Congressmen and Senators are there today, 7-25-2010?

gene44870

I am not racest , not by any means

I dont care if the person were purple as long as he does what needs to be done to fix this country

Kimo

 

Imaginary Racism Up by  Ann Coulter 07/21/2010   We Sure Are Obsessed With Race By Bryan Dubois Jul 24
2010 Three days ……….. Same playbook?
6079 Smith W

@ Kimo:

Thanks for the link. I seldom if ever read or even listen to Coulter. I think she has a valid point however.

As the Dems increasingly lose independent voters, whose votes were the key to Mr. Obama landing in the WH. They feel that they need to heighten the volume of the attacks in hopes of preventing a Nov. Congressional disaster.

Quite frankly, the shrillness of the shouts of “racism” by the left increasingly looks absurd and desperate to any thinking independent voter. 

In the final analysis, it's probably having the unintended effect of driving more of them away.

Ya better tell your bosses to change tactics;  Nov.'s a precious few months away - time's-a-wastin'.

 

Bryan Dubois

Smith W,

I hadn't seen that column either until Kimo posted it.  (He must read Ann Coulter alot.)  I'm flattered that I'm being compared to a New York Times bestselling author and nationally syndicated columnist!  (Made my day!)

Also note that not one person challenged the validity of Coulter's claims.   Figure that one out.  :)

hancrack me up

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6079 Smith W

Wasn't ML King all about promoting a colorblind society?

Why is it then that in their alleged search for societal and economic fairness that the lefties tend to do an awful lot of labeling and categorizing of peoples, races, creeds, cultures and ethnicities?

Bryan Dubois

Colorblind? 

As I said, color is the only thing they see.

Smith W, have you ever noticed how the militant left wingers pervert the idea of "equality under the law" into complete societal equality.

 

Sam

Twenty years he attended the church and listen to Rev Wright and his racist rants.  Now we are to believe he is post racial?

Bryan Dubois

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brutus smith

 

Bryan Dubois says:

 

"Also note that not one person challenged the validity of Coulter's claims.   Figure that one out.  :)"

 

That's because everyone thinks Man Coulter is a whacked out loon. ROFLMAO!

brutus smith

 What Rev Wright said is called BLACK HISTORY!

Julie R.

The moderators removed one of Dubois's comments because it contained personal attacks? Oh my!

goofus

One does not have to read Coulter, Obama's best bud Saul Alinsky's Rules For Radicals will shed all the light on the agenda of the present administration. It's called attack,attack, and attack. Racism charges and Tea Party attacks are the way Osama and company does business. To  Brutus Smith, at least one representative less, Charlie Rangel comes to mind. When a minority commits the majority of the crime what are we to do.

Sam

brutie, what Rev Wright ranted was racism at its worst, anyone who denies that is either in denial and or a fool........

Raoul Duke

Arrogance via ignorance.

Kimo

I just did a quick Google to see if you were reading from the Wing Nut playbook.

Bingo

Didn't go past the title and date.

Took a wag.

I remember when Ann Coulter called John Edwards the "Q" word. She got the wingnuts a lot of press. All the while Edwards was.........................

If I were to post my opinion of all you wingnuts, I would get deleted, don't want to bother the blog police on a Sunday.................

Kimo

Yo Goofy

You back on the rock?

Sam

brutie more "black history" or racism, anti christian attitude?

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brutus smith

 To geniuses bryan and sam, Come up with something he said that wasn't true. In your own words, I know that is asking a lot, but try.

Sam

brutie, must be difficult to defend the most racial and radical president in modern history, which explains your weak replies and lack of any facts.

goofus

Yeah Kimo, opened up the house here the first week of May. I'm a little tired of this Florida weather up here, could have stayed back in Florida for this junk!

6079 Smith W

 

Kimo wrote:

“If I were to post my opinion of all you wingnuts,” 

With your use of an invective – you did.  

As the saying goes: The cheapest commodity in the world is an opinion because everybody has one. 

 

6079 Smith W

 @ Mr. Dubois:

While channel surfing last evening I happened to catch the movie “Boyz 'N the Hood.” I had never seen it before.

It’s a very sad movie that more than helps to illustrate the unintended consequences in the waste of human potential that socialist "do-gooder" policies produce.

One year, while I was living in Chicago, it became the murder capital with over 600 homicides. Tragically, many were children caught in gang crossfire.

Here's an idea for another Progressive economic redistribution program:

Take the gangb*ngers to a shooting range and teach them basic skills. Then perhaps they would potentially only hit that at which they were aiming as opposed to innocents.

Raoul Duke

It never has occurred to me that Obama is racist. I didn't vote for him because I thought he was unqualified to be the president.

6079 Smith W

@ Jimmy Ego:

If according to some, the mere criticizing of Mr. Obama and his policies makes one a racist, then doesn't Mr. Obama in his weekly address by singling out "the Republican leader in the House of Representatives" (Mr. John Boehner) who is white, make him one as well?

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BTW: Why are all actors portraying intruders in home security commercials white?

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I literally flipped a coin, "held my nose" and voted for Barr.

Kimo

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Chung Lee

Chung Lee wonder if the right wingers are intellectually challenged or just academically dishonest.  Criticizing the president does not make one a racist.  However, if the "issue" had occurred in a previous administration and there was no objection and now there is.......well one should question the motive.  For instance, the deficit did not become a rallying cry for many until January 20, 2009.  Coincidence?  Seriously, how can right wingers deny that many within their fold refer to the president as a black muslim?  How can one ignore the ignorance and biogtry?

Chung Lee would like to point out that Boehner is not white....... he orange. 

Sam

I wonder why Chung Lee need to refer to himself in the 3rd person, underlying issues?    Its the left wingers who makes all criticism of Obama a racial issue.   The deficit has increased by a third in only 18 months, that's not a racial issue, its out of control liberal spending.  To my knowledge Obama is a mixed race Christian.  Why does he refer to himself as a "black man", ashamed of his white heritage?.

Kimo

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DBDBDB

     I remember when Racism or being Racist meant that Blacks sat in the rear of the bus, had seperate drinking fountains and rest rooms, couldn't be served in restaurants, were hanged in trees, were segregated from whites and discriminated against in many other ways.

      Now if you have a different opinion or disagree with a person of color, even a mixed race such as the President, you are branded a Racist. These are sad days indeed. Let's remember what the great Republican Civil Rights Leader, Martin Luther King Jr. said:  "I look to a day when people will not be judged by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character. "
 

"Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter."
Martin Luther King Jr.

Kimo

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Kimo

Invective:: Abusive language; discourse that casts blame on somebody or something.

Ya got me mixed up with Beck, Fox Wingnut News, and the rest of your sources of information.

To compare me to them, is a personal attack.

I got a boot out of my post being deleted; no one has directed more personal attacks (using screen name) than you have at Jimbo. I never asked, they were never deleted.

Take the personal attacks out of Politics and unemployment would double.

It's hard for me to figure out what the "new" rules are.

I have seen all kinds of filthy Acronyms in the past, have we suddenly??????????

We will see if this flies.......................

Chung Lee

Sam you might want to educate yourself.  Many of the states define somebody as being black if they are 1/2  1/4 1/8 or 1/16 black.  Legal definitions of race have been on the books since the beginning.  Chung Lee knows that if Obama said the sky was blue they would say it was green.  Chung Lee pretty sure if Obama say he white...... the wingnuts would call him black anyway.

Sam

Sam says the Chung Lee incorrect once again, federal definition for some like Obama is biracial, someone with parents of two different races, cannot be counted as either parents race. Sam says that Obama uses race for political advantage unlike any other recent president from either party. Limp wristed liberals would like Obama to be black, would make them feel better about themselves, .

Chung Lee

Sam that sounds like more projection there buddy.  Chung Lee thinks that maybe wingnuts don't want to think of Obama as black so that they think their actions are no racist.  Sam, Chung Lee would like to know where you get your information?  "Someone with partents of two different races cannot be counted as either parent race".  You better contact the Justice Department and the Census Bureau because apparently they got it wrong and the nut bag site you got this from is certainly a better source lol.  Wake up Sam part of the reason you no like Obama because he is black so what does that make you?  Clearly not an informed citizen as you suggest you are!

The U.S. Department of Justice Federal Bureau of Investigation categorizes black or African American people as "A person having origins in any of the black racial groups of Africa" through racial categories used in the UCR Program adopted from the Statistical Policy Handbook (1978) and published by the Office of Federal Statistical Policy and Standards, U.S. Department of Commerce, derived from the 1977 OMB classification

Sam

Third person Up Chuck Lee, you might want to update your facts from 1978 but, whatever for argument why would the "first post racial president" call himself either black or white, would he not call himself biracial to be truly post racial.  He had a great opportunity to go beyond race but choose to call himself "black",  once again using race as a political advantage.  My disagreement with him is with his politics,  The  far wacked out left feels good about themselves for voting for a "black man" no matter how unqualified he is. I think Hillary would have been a better president, at least I know she does not hate the American way of life and has never been ashamed of her country.

Kimo

Let me say this, I have CD's chock full of the racist emails sent to me.

They include the email addresses of ALL the people that passed them along, most wingnuts are not computer savy enough to clean out previous recipients, and have not yet learned what BCC is or does.

I have one that has four pages, three pages are email addresses. They are some of the most racist trash I have ever seen.

All this to say, some of you posting the trash; may be one of those people?

 

Kimo

LOL

I just hit the link to Guidelines.

LINK NOT FOUND

Making changes as we go along???????

Yo Chung ever feel like the old boy at the wailing wall?

Julie R.

You go, Chung Lee!!

hancrack me up

 Moderators don't even bother flagging my posts that use such words as "black", "gangsta", "thug"  & "NAACP" anymore. Now they just completely delete the post. I honestly believe they have a new group of mods at the SR & one of them is "Ms. Sally" from Romper Room.

goofus

You people are a trip. Why is it when one side of the fence criticizes an administration for perceived failings, it is racist. But when the opposite side of the fence criticizes past administrations for perceived failings it is okay. Who is really hiding behind the racism allegations? A perceived ineptness of an administration has nothing to do with the color of a man's skin. Ineptness is ineptness. 

6079 Smith W

Kimo writes: 

“Let me say this, I have CD's chock full of the racist emails sent to me.” 

And you take the time and spend the money to save “racist emails” to cd why?

And why are people sending you racist emails in the first place?

 

 

 

 

 

brutus smith

 Because they are probably like you and don't think they are racist. Like you referring to him as the "boy" in the WH.

Kimo

 

When someone sends me an email, it becomes my property. I can save it, I can delete it, and the choice is mine. I back up my data on a regular basis, keep most of it on a CD. What’s the old saying? “Say what you want, don’t put it in writing”. As to why they send them to me, I’m sure the reasons vary. I happened to see one of those people at a gin mill, I had not seen him for ten years. It didn’t take long for him to start smearing any and all democrats. I let him go on for five minutes or so. I looked him in the eye, smiled and said, “I’m a registered Democrat”. He looked shocked, he said, “You can’t be, you are too smart for that”. I just smiled and said, “Maybe you overestimated my intelligence”. Followed by “Good to see you, I hope it’s not another ten years”. When he and I did business, twenty years ago we never discussed politics. He got my email address from a mutual friend. Don’t send any emails you would not be comfortable seeing on the front page of the Sandusky Register. They might show up there someday.

;-)

Kimo

Google: michele obama monkey, see what you get. Or follow link below.

This went email version and was traced back to guess who?????

http://www.google.com/#hl=en&source=hp&q=michelle+obama+monkey&aq=0s&aqi=g-s2g-sx1g-s1g-sx6&aql=&oq=michele+obama+mo&gs_rfai=Ca1W37ehOTI-dCYvwygStuq25CgAAAKoEBU_QCis5&fp=d67b007619a25c3e

Kimo
Chung Lee

Sam it is quite clear that you have know idea what you are talking about.  Get the facts before you display your ignorance.  The definition was set forth in 1978 and didn't change.  Have you ever done any academic reading with citations and footnotes and such?  Chung Lee already knows the answer to that one because the only books at your level only have pictures. 

Emmitt Smith was recently on a PBS program that traced his ancestors and they found through DNA testing that he was less than 90% black!  And the DNA expert said that was high and that most blacks are in the 60-75% range.  Anyway, Emmitt is pretty dark so by your hilljack definition Emmitt Smith isn't even black!  You are clearly hopeless.  Maybe you should try to get your information from legitimate sources?

6079 Smith W

@ Kimo: 

Thanks, but no thanks for the links. I don’t seek out garbage regardless of the source or political persuasion. 

Remember the ‘docudrama’: ‘Death of a President’ about the assassination of POTUS Bush? Same garbage, different political persuasion. 

Why not use inexpensive USB drives as opposed to cds to save your stuff? 

An email is like a post card – no privacy. 

I have longtime friends who are libs; we just stay off politics.

Kimo

 

I think it’s quite selfish, and reflects the greed, when a wingnut posts a picture of the Statue of Liberty as if he or his movement owns her. She belongs to every American regardless of race, religion, political affiliation, etc, etc. BTW In France, public fees, various forms of entertainment, and a lottery were among the methods used to raise funds. In the United States, benefit theatrical events, art exhibitions, auctions and prize fights assisted in providing needed funds. Given the fact that some of her was French money, and wingnuts eat “Freedom Fries”. It seems odd you would claim her as symbol of your movement. You do remember the “Freedom Fries movement”, It was your people bub. Rush, Beck, Fox Views, etc.
Kimo

Knowledge is power.

The more you know, the harder it is for someone to blow smoke...........................

A very close friend of mine, republican, "You want to find out what someone is made of; ask them a question you already know the answer to". "If the (...........) Lie to you, never trust them".

:-)

6079 Smith W

Kimo writes:

“Knowledge is power.”  

Perhaps. More like: Perception is reality.

big_d

Bwahahaha! Like your avatar, 6079 Smith W!

Sam

Third party upchuck lee, Since the 1967 Supreme Court decision that deemed anti-miscegenation laws unconstitutional, there has been a considerable increase in the number of interracial couples and mixed-race children. Until 1989, children continued to be classified as belonging to the race of the non-white parent, reflecting historical hypodescent laws. Since the 1980s, the United States has had a growing multiracial identity movement, culminating in the 2000 census, which for the first time presented the opportunity to self-identify as multiracial.  You avoid the question. if he is indeed "post racial: why proclaim yourself black when you are multiracial. Ashamed of his white heritage or use of being black to appease the limp wristed libs like you.  If indeed ignorance is bliss, you must be very happy.

Kimo

Perception "IS" reality to a wingnut.

If Glenn Beck said it on TV, it must be true, that's reality in a wingnut world.

Like the kids say, "it is what it is".

 

Kimo

BTW

You want "Freedom Fries" with that?

Kimo

It's time for the SR to clean "House".

Bryan Dubois

Kimo, say whatever you want as often as you like.  And keep clicking "refresh" to see if anyone has answered.   (Don't burn up too many brain cells trying to understand this particular joke, non-capitalists.)

Bryan Dubois

Hey!  What's going on?!   Kimo doesn't want to debate "reality" anymore?!

6079 Smith W

 Kimo writes:

“Perception "IS" reality to a wingnut.”

Thank you for lending validity to the metaphysical point I was expressing.  

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Kimo also writes: 

“It's time for the SR to clean "House’. 

A saying from the Vietnam era:

You have not convinced a man because you have silenced him.

 

 

 

6079 Smith W

 @ Sam:

Ya gotta give the man credit as our first metros*xual president.

He probably has a lot of those manly 'skin softeners' on his bathroom counter. I'll bet he smells pretty too.

Kimo

 

I have posted this before. All of you people that think you are more intelligent than the rest of us, may or may not have read it. In 1956 I had a 1930 Model A Ford. In those days a lot of us worked on our vehicles. I needed a couple of tools, so I drove to Sandusky, bought the tools headed for home. I got home my dad looked at the tools, and asked me why I bought Japanese tools and not American made tools. I told him I could not afford American made tools. His comment: “You can’t afford not to buy American made tools”. “If Americans don’t support American workers and factories, all our jobs will disappear”. He then went on to say, “The problem they will have is that if Americans don’t have jobs how can they buy anything”? This was a man with a fifth grade education. I sure all you “intelligent” people would have had a field day with anything he may have written. Fast forward 2010. A few other players are in the mix, China, Korea, etc. Americans shipped jobs overseas, Americans are out of work, and the country is broke.
Bryan Dubois

So what you're saying is that as a younger person, you made the mistake of buying foreign goods.

Correct?

Kimo

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Sam

brutie, Bryan, & Kimo, bad, bad boys!!!!!!!!!

brutus smith

 Which tea baby is moderating today?

Kimo

Sometimes when I tell the story of my dad's comments, I make this observation: "Not bad for a Hunky with a fifth grade education".

That will get deleted because it's a personal attack on my dad?

Another of his "comments", "you are kinda like a republican flashlight, not too bright".

Havta delete that puppy.

:-)

 

Kimo

word.

6079 Smith W

 @ Kimo:

So you chose to ignore your father’s admonition against the purchase of foreign-made tools, but willingly accepted his prejudice regarding Repubs?

Chung Lee

Chung Lee just curious........ since so many wingnuts get their talking points from Fox and Fox is owned by a foreigner Rupert Murdoch and one of the largest shareholders is the Crown Prince of Saudi Arabia.....does that make the followers "foreign tools". 

Katelih-Trailer...

Hail ye, Border Patrol ! ( as I bow )  Sounds like Arizona could use some help with real issues. Why cant our guys go there to help with such hostile situations.

I

 So, Kimo, which would your dad support...Buying a Honda that is built in America by Americans or buying a Ford built in Mexico by Mexicans?  And Kimo, since liberals say they are all about the working man and hate big business, isn't it more important for the workers in this country to be employed than it is for the corporations to make big profits?  Please use your democratic flashlight to enlighten us. 

6079 Smith W

 @ Kimo: 

After your father’s scolding: Did you return the foreign-made tools to the place of purchase and exchange them for American-made tools or did you keep them? 

How did your father come to know that the tools that you had purchased were foreign-made? Did you boast to him about your frugality or did he ask? 

If you had purchased the more expensively priced American-made tools would your father have given or loaned you the difference? 

In the 1950s, the U.S. was the sole industrial power – we can’t go back to some kind of mythical Golden Age by throwing up trade barriers. 

The U.S. is the third largest exporter in the world, if we go throwing up trade barriers, the rest of the world will react accordingly and our society will be that much poorer. 

Taking your thinking to its extreme: Perhaps consumers should only buy items and services from companies domiciled in Ohio or for that matter, Erie or Huron Co.?

6079 Smith W

If merely by speaking ill of Mr. Obama's policies makes one a racist, couldn't criticism of Japanese-made tools also be construed as racism?

 

hancrack me up

 The gangsta rap these thugs listen to has every other word "ni__a" or eff this eff that.  If I were to know one of those songs & a thug pulled up next to me pounding it out of the trunk & I were to mouth along with what they say, am I considered a racist ? I heard some cracked out looking thug in the store the other day saying it was racist for him not to be able to buy his 40oz , Black & Milds & Chore Boy with his welfare card. I say neuter them & put them to work with mandatory drug screening for any able bodied welfare recipient. 

brutus smith

 I see nobody responds to the Faux news, Rupert Murdock thing. Their brains can't compute that.

Sam

brutie wetis, Fox & Murdoch is laughing alll the way to the bank, "Fair & Balanced"  Read & weep............ 

Its called the Neilson ratings!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! aka a good old fashioned butt kicking!!!!!!!!!

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brutus smith

 Hitler had the most popular paper and radio program. Hmmmm.