BLOG: Take A Bow!

Bryan Dubois
Jul 6, 2010

Wonder what they're reaction would be to these photos:

Before these photos, I never knew anyone who gave a bow while they shook hands.

What is a bow supposed to mean?

Comments

Bryan Dubois

Good point Wayneonwayne.  The only difference between the comparison on bowing is the fact that Obama holds a deep bow until the photographers can get clear shots. 

And Bush II sure did have a potty mouth, didn't he?

We've had some real embarassments for presidents in recent history haven't we?

With Obama, the bowing is in keeping with his apparent desire to lower the status of this country from super-power to inconsequential nation state.

Norma J-C

I thought bowing is a custom of the Eastern cultures. If it is, it is done as a sign of respect for their greeting and should not include the handshake, which is American. Think of Howie Mandel and his touching the knuckles because he is a germaphobe. Athletes sometimes bump chests while jumping.

In any case, our President should not be bowing so low  when a simple 15 degree-bow will suffice.

Bryan Dubois

I was thinking more along the lines of a head nod and a handshake.  Body language sends a message - whether it's Bush flipping off the camera (flippant, careless) to Obama deeply bowing to a foreign head of state (careful, thought out) they're both mistakes that lead to the wrong message being sent.  Whether intended (Obama) or not (Bush).

 

6079 Smith W

So what?

It's merely continuing evidence of Chairman Mao-bama’s deeply felt inferiority complex being exhibited through his groveling to world dignitaries while pursuing his agenda of having the U.S. achieve its true role as a secondary world power.

1-20-13: The End of an Error

 

 

 

 

Salvatore

Obama is in position to get his butt kicked. Right Rufus? Kick that boney butt. Obama is so weak that he could not fight his way out of a wet paper bag. Next Obama will curtsey while bowing. Obama should bow to the American people as he is supposed to serve Americans and not foreigners. Bend over Obama to get your butt kicked by the American voters once your first term is up. Jimmy Carter gave away the Panama Canal. Obama is giving away America's wealth.

 

brutus smith

 Because none of you including Bryan do independant research, do you even know the history of bowing? Why of course not. I haven't notice any of those countries preparing to attack us because we are "weak". Ahhhh right wingnuts.

Salvatore
Driving in Circles

We have become a debtor nation. Our economy has become dependent upon foreigners buying our debt. It will only get worse if we can't get our government under control.

6079 Smith W

Mr. Obama was:

1. Abandoned by his father.

2. Abandoned by a mother who believed that her social work was much more important than raising her children.

3. Raised as a boy of color by his grandparents who in his words were two "average white" people.

So why wouldn't Mr. Obama grovel before world leaders to whom he believes he is personally inferior?

Captain Gutz

Why yes, bruty, I do know the history of bowing:

 

The characteristic long, sustained, and singing sound produced by the violin, viola, violoncello, and double bass is due to the drawing of the bow against their strings. This sustaining of musical sound with a bow is comparable to a singer using breath to sustain sounds and sing long, smooth, or legato melodies. Without the bow the violin family could only be played pizzicato.

In modern practice, the bow is almost always held in the right hand while the left is used for fingering. When the player pulls the bow across the strings (such that the frog moves away from the instrument), it is called a downbow; pushing the bow so the frog moves toward the instrument is an upbow (the directions "down" and "up" are literally descriptive for violins and violas, and are employed in analogous fashion for the cello and double bass). Harnoncourt (1988) noted that the symbols for down-bow (⊓) and up-bow (∨) are likely derived from early notation of "n" and "v" respectively, standing for nobile and vile (noble and ignoble, roughly), as the down-bow is usually utilized for the strong (more noble) beats. When two consecutive notes need to be played with the same bowing but are not slurred (e.g.: to play two strong down-bows in a row) it is called a retake.

Generally, the downbow stroke is used for the strong musical beats, the upbow for weak beats. However, in the viola da gamba, it is the reverse; thus violinists, violists, and cellists look like they are "pulling" on the strong beats when they play, whereas gamba players look like they are "stabbing" on the strong beats. The difference almost certainly results from the different ways in which the bow is held in these instrument families: violin/viola/cello players hold the wood part of the bow closer to the palm, whereas gamba players use the opposite orientation, with the horsehair closer. The orientation appropriate to each instrument family permits the stronger wrist muscles (flexors) to reinforce the strong beat.

String players control their tone quality by touching the bow to the strings at varying distances from the bridge, emphasizing the higher harmonics by playing sul ponticello "on the bridge," or reducing them, and emphasizing the fundamental frequency by playing sul tasto "on the fingerboard".

Infrequently, composers ask the player to use the bow by touching the strings with the wood rather than the hair; this is known by the Italian phrase col legno, "with the wood". Coll'arco, "with the bow", is the indication to use the bow hair to create the sound in the normal way.

brutus smith

Is that why you can relate to him? Ahhhh makes sense now.

6079 Smith W

Look at the pictures.

Obie's just checking to see if his fly is zipped.

brutus smith

1. Abandoned by his father.

2. Abandoned by a mother who believed that her social work was much more important than raising her children.

3. Raised as a boy of color by his grandparents who in his words were two "average white" people.

Do all these apply to you to winnie? ROFLMAO!

brutus smith

Bowing (also called stooping) is the act of lowering the torso and head as a social gesture in direction to another person or symbol. It is most prominent in Asiancultures but it is also typical of nobility and aristocracy in many countries and distinctively in Europe. Sometimes the gesture may be limited to lowering the head. It is especially prominent in ChinaKoreaIndia, and Japan where it may be executed standing or kneelingIn European cultures — aside from bows done by performers on stage, such as at the curtain call — bowing is an exclusively male practice, and females instead perform a related gesture called a "curtsey" or "curtsy." The depth of the bow is related to the degree of respect or gratitude. In European courtly circles, males were expected to "bow and scrape" (hence the term "bowing and scraping" for what appears to be excessive ceremony). "Scraping" refers to the drawing back of the right leg as one bows, such that the right foot scrapes the floor or earth. Typically, while executing such a bow, the man's left hand is pressed horizontally across the abdomen while the right is held out from the body.

 

Bows are the traditional greeting in East Asia, particularly in Japan and Korea. However, bowing is not reserved only for greetings. Bowing is a gesture ofrespect. Different bows are used for apologies and gratitude, to express different emotions, humilitysincerityremorse, or deference, and in various traditional arts and religious ceremonies.

Basic bows originate at the waist and are performed with the back straight and the hands at the sides (for men) or clasped in front (for women), and with the eyes down. Generally, the longer and deeper the bow, the stronger the emotion or the greater the difference in social standing.

Bows can be generally divided into three main types: informal, formal, and very formal. Informal bows are made at about a fifteen degree angle and more formal bows at about thirty degrees. Very formal bows are deeper. In extreme cases a kneeling bow is performed, which may be so deep that the forehead touches thefloor. There is an extremely complex etiquette surrounding bowing, including the length and depth of bow, and the appropriate response. For example, if the other person maintains his or her bow for longer than expected (generally about two or three seconds), it is polite to bow again, upon which one may receive another bow in return, often leading to an exchange of progressively lighter bows.