The October 12th City Commission Poll

Bryan Dubois
Mar 23, 2010

 

Since I keep having problems when I try to post polls on SR, the following poll doesn't function on this site:

 To take part in this poll click here for a city commission election poll. 

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A little departure from local politics:

I'd love to here hear Rufus Sanders defend this lady and others like her:

Updated:  I've been asked by AJ Oliver to make an apology to my readers.  I absolutely agree that all of you deserve an apology, so I apologize for misspelling the word "hear."

Comments

AJ Oliver

"I'd love to here Rufus Sanders defend this lady and others like her:"  

     If I were Rufus, I would not bother to respond you your grammar-challenged wish.  That "video" is an obvious set-up by ultra right-wing, racist, WJR radio in Detroit.  Shame on both you and them for fomenting division. 

   Come on, 411, I know you to be a bright and caring person - but this time you really blew it. 

   Do some homework on this transparent fraud, think it through for yourself, and then apologise to your readers. 

    Sorry to have to say it, but you should know better. 

                                 Sincerely,  AJ Oliver 

Karl Hungus-Mr....

Ultra right wing racist.....wow.  Why won't people wake up and see what is happening in this country.   A growing number of people do not want to work and provide for themselves anymore.  Instead they support and vote for whatever official promises them the best deal and the biggest hand-outs.  It is not just Obama.  He learned if from Bush and his "rebates", it equates to nothing but vote buying.  Sadly, it is not just private individuals, corporations have been playing this game far too long as well.

Stop with the hand-outs, stop with the tax breaks, stop with the money for nothing.  Hold people accountable for their own actions.  If you do not want to work then you do not get paid.  End of story.  No racism, no ultra right-wing or ultra-left wing propaganda, just what is best for this country.  The elected officails that we have elected know that if they promise free money then fools and those with weak minds will vote for them.  Meanwhile they continue to bankraupt this country and lead us further in debt.

Mr. Oliver, can you explain where Obama got that money from?  How about Mr. Sanders.

Remember what JFK said, "Ask not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country."  Why has a large percentage of our population forgotten this.

Karl Hungus-Mr....

The greatest good you can do for another is not just share your riches, but to reveal to him his own. - Benjamin Disraeli

 

Man, whatever happened to leaders like that?

Bryan Dubois

Yes, this blog is for local politics but I've got to respond to Mr. Oliver on this one...

I also would challenge the suggestion that I would no longer be a "bright and caring person" for not blindly agreeing that the news clip was a set up by a "right wing racist."

Mr. Oliver, you get an F- on your debating skillz.

AJ Oliver

      It's not a "news clip".  It's a propaganda clip.  Rush L. was all over it yesterday on his show.   Are you familiar with what WJR used to be, and what it has become?  Doesn't seem like it. 

       WJR used to be a great radio station, with a solid local news team, covering everything from the auto industry to the Port Huron to Macinaw sailboat races.  Now unfortunately, they've sold their souls by turning people against each other for money, as have many other AM stations.  They're now featuring the likes of Rush and his ilk. 

    Do you really think I'll have a hard time demonstrating that Rush, etc. are far-right and racist (which actually amounts to the same thing)?  Don't you recognize hate radio when you hear it?  Don't you understand what the NFL players (both white and black) are saying? 

    I'll debate you on this issue any time, any place.  You will lose. 

Karl Hungus-Mr....

Mr. Oliver, do you know that Rush's right hand man is an African American? 

If Rush was a racist would he have this man working next to him everyday, and pay this guy the huge salary that Rush pays him?  Would a true racist like David Duke hire an African American to be his right hand man?

If WJR is racist does that mean that Mitch Albom and Ken Brown are racist?  What about Lloyd Jackson, he is the asst. station director?  Or, Dayna Clark?   I find if funny that you call a radio station that has so many minorities on staff racist.

Over 50% of their programs are either hosted by a minority or have a minority as a co-host. 

Bryan Dubois

Your comments are bolded:

It's not a "news clip".  It's a propaganda clip. 

Propoganda clip in favor of who?  Why do you think the clip was created and who was it designed to make look bad?   Please answer because in order for it to be classified as a "propoganda clip" it would have to be purposefully created by one party to affect another party...

Rush L. was all over it yesterday on his show.   Are you familiar with what WJR used to be, and what it has become?  Doesn't seem like it. 

You are suggesting that because Rush is on WJR the entire station is unworthy?  Is that what you're saying?

       WJR used to be a great radio station, with a solid local news team, covering everything from the auto industry to the Port Huron to Macinaw sailboat races.  Now unfortunately, they've sold their souls by turning people against each other for money, as have many other AM stations.  They're now featuring the likes of Rush and his ilk. 

May I assume that you are "far left" if you hate Rush and Rush is "far right?"

    Do you really think I'll have a hard time demonstrating that Rush, etc. are far-right and racist (which actually amounts to the same thing)? 

Of course you wouldn't have a difficult time proving that!  That would be an absurd point to argue seeing as how it's generally accepted by most people that Rush is a conservative talk show host!   (The debate tactic here is to assign something for me to argue with which most people would disagree - thereby winning an "easy" argument.  Not gonna happen!)

Don't you recognize hate radio when you hear it? 

This statement assumes that conservative talk radio is "hate radio."  That is not true and a claim the far left has been repeating for many years now.   Including the descriptive term "hate radio" in a question to me suggests that if I don't recognize your assessment of conservative talk radio as "hate radio" that I'm somehow not intelligent.  (Kinda like I'm suddenly no longer a "bright and caring person" if I disagree with you.

Don't you understand what the NFL players (both white and black) are saying? I'll debate you on this issue any time, any place.  You will lose. 

First you'd have to define what issue we'd be debating, not coming back with a haphazard response that doesn't even stick to the topic of debate...and secondly you'd have to explain what NFL players have to do with some woman in Detroit ignorantly proclaiming that she has no idea where stimulus money comes from...

Bryan Dubois

Mr. Oliver,  if you're still up for debate, could you also say a few words about this post in the forums?   The article is a beautifully written response to Rufus Sander's "Playa Hater" article.  The author touches on some of the same types of logic that the left's theories are based upon.